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1081  Bitcoin / Project Development / BTCPay / bisq integration on: November 20, 2018, 04:45:23 AM
Has there been any work done on integrating BTCPay with bisq?

I realize bisq has low volume right now but...

If a business could set up BTCPay with bisq running where they can accept bitcoin and receive fiat in their bank account without really needing to know anything about Bitcoin then it would become the best payment solution.

It could also work the other way around. "My company now accepts all currencies around the world" with the ability in each country to deposit funds. The merchant could then either get paid in BTC or take it a step further and convert it back to their own currency in their account.

The money to be made on this would be having companies that will host this for people...while the option is still there for companies to set it up on their own server.

I've only downloaded either one so I'm not sure of the development going on.
1082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2018, 06:27:59 PM


What's your opinion on this?

Unnecessarily aggressive.

And completely wrong.



This.

LN requires that nodes have their bitcoins in a hot wallet.

Good luck convincing a bank to set up a huge centralized node with millions of dollars sitting in a hot wallet.

No, seriously...good luck. I don't know anything about hacking but that might just motivate me to open up a hacking book so I can get my hands on that hot wallet.
1083  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2018, 02:48:56 PM
1084  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2018, 05:07:20 AM
I was heavily involved in trying to get Ron Paul elected in 2008 which involved keeping up to date on most things going on on Ron Paul Forums.

After the 2008 elections we moved forward with the liberty movement (which was usurped by the corporate Tea Party) and kept each other informed on various projects related to liberty and freedom. Bitcoin was mentioned early on, then mentioned more. I'd been a big gold bug and had always tried to figure out how to convert all of my money into gold while still being able to spend it. I figured if I could at least demonstrate how one person can do it, then it would allow others to do the same. Problem was that gold requires storage which costs money. Any gold credit/debit card charged a fee per use and a monthly storage fee.

When someone first mentioned bitcoin and speculated that in the future we would use a basket of currencies as our every day currencies I pushed back because I felt that gold was the answer to future currencies. But after I saw that bitcoin hit dollar parity I downloaded the wallet. It had a button you could click to start mining so I tried to mine. It crashed my computer so I was like...screw Bitcoin, this thing sucks. And went on with my life.

Then I read about the jump from $2 to $32 and I decided it was time to get in. When it came back down to $17 I cashed out my Roth IRA and bought $10k worth (as it spent 2 years slowly falling down to $2). I sold it all when it came back up to $12.
1085  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 19, 2018, 04:57:07 AM
Taxes are too high. Gov is too large. Inequality is too extreme.

If we can't reset and start from scratch (which we can not it seems)

Then to try to formulate a plan from where we are now to create a more fair and more enjoyable stable sytem is much harder than I thought without some form of tax. Other than to stream line gov and make it as efficient as possible and iron out as much corruption as possible and some other well meaning tweaks maybe a great deal more pay as you use services/care .... but to reduce tax to zero and juggle stability seemed as I mentioned quite tricky to me anyway.

Of course if you are born free with no contract signed ever then forced to pay tax is theft. However for that to be fair on those opting in you would somehow have to remain totally outside of that system and any benefits at all that it provided unless this was opt in payasyougo services/care only.

I do think the gradual decentralisation, trustless and transparent nature of this arena will make things better and you will get more for less tax in the end but it could take some time or could not happen like that at all.

That is where I had got too anyway I;m certain far smarter people will debunk these ideas with ease but at least i can then see where I was going wrong.

Is it fair if someone takes food from a church that is feeding people...and then they never give anything to the church?

How many people in countries that the US gives foreign aid to are paying US taxes?

No that would not be fair if they ever had an excess  to give back. Can you explain how that relates to the part of my post that you bolded? I mean it might but I can't see it.

You imply that it is not fair to receive benefits without paying in.

A charity provides benefits to people without expecting anything in return.

Government spends. That is their choice. They don't have to. But they choose to.

That is completely unrelated to them stealing peoples' money. If someone voluntarily donated all of their money to the government so that they would have the same amount of money as taxes they would spend it just the same. If a country bought a shitload of bitcoin at $1 and now has enough to for spending for the next 100 years they would spend it. It would not be expected that the people "pay them back" out of "fairness".

Or, when you give to charity, are you expecting to be compensated by the charity at some point?
1086  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 18, 2018, 04:55:37 PM
Taxation is not theft. Taxation is the dues for semi-mandatory membership to an enormous resource cooperative. How quickly anarcho-anythingists forget the simple joy of having flush toilets. Now, what happens to those dues AFTER collection – that's theft. And who's doing the thieving?
.. Anarcho-capitalists. Yeah, good luck with all that "liberty" when there's no authority to stop them from enslaving you completely.

they seem to think that private companies would be better as if they wouldn't do something similar or worse like pay to just use the bathroom in the first place then make you pay to flush it

But you would at least have a choice in what you're paying for.

I do not see much value in my contributions toward phosphorous bombing women and children in some far off place.
1087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers (VARYON) - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: November 18, 2018, 08:14:34 AM
Not Blue Frontiers related but for those that are willing to buy an actual seastead, let me know via PM.

*not looking for investors, just neighbors*
1088  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 18, 2018, 06:10:44 AM
Taxes are too high. Gov is too large. Inequality is too extreme.

If we can't reset and start from scratch (which we can not it seems)

Then to try to formulate a plan from where we are now to create a more fair and more enjoyable stable sytem is much harder than I thought without some form of tax. Other than to stream line gov and make it as efficient as possible and iron out as much corruption as possible and some other well meaning tweaks maybe a great deal more pay as you use services/care .... but to reduce tax to zero and juggle stability seemed as I mentioned quite tricky to me anyway.

Of course if you are born free with no contract signed ever then forced to pay tax is theft. However for that to be fair on those opting in you would somehow have to remain totally outside of that system and any benefits at all that it provided unless this was opt in payasyougo services/care only.

I do think the gradual decentralisation, trustless and transparent nature of this arena will make things better and you will get more for less tax in the end but it could take some time or could not happen like that at all.

That is where I had got too anyway I;m certain far smarter people will debunk these ideas with ease but at least i can then see where I was going wrong.

Is it fair if someone takes food from a church that is feeding people...and then they never give anything to the church?

How many people in countries that the US gives foreign aid to are paying US taxes?
1089  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2018, 04:31:01 AM


You know what happens when you're caught on the wrong side of history?

Nothing...you're dead. Doesn't matter to you by then. Don't worry about what future historians will say, they're likely to be ignorant twats.
1090  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2018, 10:56:04 AM
Price is so low I have to watch the Bitfinex price instead of Bitstamp.
1091  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2018, 04:07:57 AM
Complete speculation but...

I believe that Craig Wright signed a very large monetary deal with some investors after giving them the impression that he was Satoshi and that he could not release his BTC until 2020.

Whatever deal this is, he is desperate to get as many bitcoins as he can before then. He tried to make BCH the "real bitcoin" but that didn't work...so now just make up some fear about Segwit the he will "reveal in 2019" to drive down the price so he can get as many coins as possible to fulfill his part of the deal. Looks like he needs the price to drop to around $1k to be able to pull that off. Not going to happen.
1092  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 16, 2018, 02:38:59 PM
Actually, taxation is extortion, not theft. Theft means "the action or crime of stealing". Extortion means "the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats".

I know the motto "Taxation is theft" sounds good, but it's not as accurate as "Taxation is extortion".

True story.

But most people don't know the definition of extortion.
1093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2018, 01:45:35 PM
My gf sells on localbitcoins.

The past couple of days she's had some big sales requested.

I told her to ignore them.



Not taking the chance of the price shooting back up right after she's done a sale.
1094  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2018, 12:16:21 PM
I gave it a half assed try to convert my 1 BCH I pulled off of Coinbase a few days ago into the forked coins.

BSV wallet is only linux based, I downloaded and tried to run it but I got tired of installing missing libraries so...no free BSV coins for me while they have any value.

Didn't get a chance to try to get BAB.

This one will have to sit with the others that are slowly losing value as well.

If a software engineer isn't getting your wallet to work, you haven't planned things all that well. (not saying it can't be done...just don't feel like going through the hassle that it would have taken).

If you manage to compile the wallet be careful as BCHABC/BCHSV DON'T have replay protection. This is as contentious fork as it can be.

Yep...it would be...get in, get my BTC out and be done
1095  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2018, 11:14:11 AM
I gave it a half assed try to convert my 1 BCH I pulled off of Coinbase a few days ago into the forked coins.

BSV wallet is only linux based, I downloaded and tried to run it but I got tired of installing missing libraries so...no free BSV coins for me while they have any value.

Didn't get a chance to try to get BAB.

This one will have to sit with the others that are slowly losing value as well.

If a software engineer isn't getting your wallet to work, you haven't planned things all that well. (not saying it can't be done...just don't feel like going through the hassle that it would have taken).
1096  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2018, 02:54:11 PM
Forget private keys, if Craig Wright was Satoshi he could post his now defunct bitcointalk password on Twitter...but he can't even do that.  Also, since everyone in the thread is retarded, my bottom call around 10 months ago was "probably stabilize around $4200-4400 with flash crashes to $3000", while Tera's was "might drop as low as $1000".  You can build a statue in the town square of whoever the winner is.

Are we gonna have another bull run or this is it ?

This is it. Instead of cashing out later you should cash out now.

You tried to get rich. It just didn't work out.

Time for you to look for something else.
1097  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2018, 02:02:27 PM
Well, looks like Poloniex has 3 BCH coins that add up to about .15 BTC. Best I've seen in a while. Time to start selling.

Edit: Oh shit BCH SV wallet is linux only at this point and it looks like maybe I have to compile it.

I usually have a shit time getting wallets to run on my linux setup because I don't have a desktop, only ssh.
1098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2018, 07:35:08 AM
So has it split yet? Where can I sell cash abc and cash sv for bitcoins?
1099  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 14, 2018, 06:49:28 PM
You do not have to pay taxes because you do not have to earn taxable income.  Income that is not benefiting from public services is not taxable.   You want to benefit from public services without having to pay into it.  What you want is to live in a well-functioning society for free. 

Obamacare is a tax on being alive.

You no longer have a choice of not paying taxes by not earning income.
1100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2018, 06:41:39 PM
Ok, this is not funny anymore.

 Cry

share your horror gif again that always does the reversal job

This time I had to pull out some this is the end shit...

"there were fatalities"





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