....... say to his face in a place where there is no law and no cameras to protect you from his reaction.
What kind of reaction are you eluding to, exactly? I suggest you ask him and to his face. I suggest you keep your trap shut, when it involves intentions you are not capable of living up to. Im not wasting your time. This is what you do. You choose to have to pointless arguments with people over and over again. Pathetic really, for an obviously intelligent man. Recently you have become very abusive. Even sending threatening PMs to people, and now you are suggesting a "reaction" out the sight of "law and cameras". You seem to be on a trajectory that will end in tears TPTB. Your precious children are gonna be so proud of warrior dad.  |
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Come-from-Beyond has to be BCNext.
Josh, is it you? PM me if that's you, I was missing you, buddy. Can someone move coin from an early account. Thanks  |
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some coin have changed their name for that exact reason
So the question is, is there any coin thats changed its name twice?  |
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....... say to his face in a place where there is no law and no cameras to protect you from his reaction.
What kind of reaction are you eluding to, exactly? |
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Looks interesting and thanks for pointing it out. I hope that our model will offer more due to the tech development of Rise. It's a good sign that their similar RE investment component is still active almost 3 years later. As they mention being mainly a fiat driven business I think the key is not to hold onto BTC for too long because of the risk of volatility. Investments would have to get changed for fiat pronto then at the end profits earned in fiat to be converted to btc (crypto) and paid out asap.Yep, you got it. Bit of a juggling act/judgement call, re when to convert and how much, and at the mercy of exchange rate. Im sure there was a system, ish  Easier to hedge these days, of course. So where does the impetus come from, going down this path? Have you project managed these type of builds before? What area of France are you looking for land? The idea came naturally to me. I spent 4 years getting 2 levels of qualifications as a builder in the French apprenticeship system. In a couple of years of being qualified as a builder I worked my way up to "chef d'equipe" level in various French companies which involved working with Vinci Construction (the worlds largest construction company I was surprised to discover). I've undertaken and been a part of all kinds of projects from building small things like garden terraces to walls to houses, schools and multi story apartment blocks and even a retirement home. But to be honest it's not the size of the job that counts it's the size and skills of the team for that particular job. Wanting to make things a bit more interesting than working for other people I started a company which involved sub contracting house builds. I decided to close that company when I got heavily into Crypto in 2013. Recently I completed an obligatory 4 day course at the "Chambre de Metiers" in order to re-open a building company. There are lots of english people living in the Vendee and that brings in a fair amount of work. Atm I'm undertaking small works like garages and extensions. I've learned enough to be able to handle small to medium sized constructions. Small being a single house, actually just finishing up one now... here's a pic.  I built that house with as little help as possible to keep the costs down but drafted in some help when there wasn't really an option. Certified electrician being an example of something you can't do without. Medium, would be something like a 10 unit apartment build. I could handle medium builds with a team of independent "artisans". Just need to manage the right people for the right jobs. Also a big plus would be getting the help of a first cousin who lives not too far from me, he happens to be an architect and I'd enlist his help for sure when needed. Thanks for sharing, Cormac. Love the fact you can swap between two very different disciplines. You are a rare breed, for sure. I say that, as a qualified tradesman myself. We need to brain-storm how crypto can be used in the building game, me thinks.  |
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Looks interesting and thanks for pointing it out. I hope that our model will offer more due to the tech development of Rise. It's a good sign that their similar RE investment component is still active almost 3 years later. As they mention being mainly a fiat driven business I think the key is not to hold onto BTC for too long because of the risk of volatility. Investments would have to get changed for fiat pronto then at the end profits earned in fiat to be converted to btc (crypto) and paid out asap.Yep, you got it. Bit of a juggling act/judgement call, re when to convert and how much, and at the mercy of exchange rate. Im sure there was a system, ish Easier to hedge these days, of course. So where does the impetus come from, going down this path? Have you project managed these type of builds before? What area of France are you looking for land? |
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Could you give more information about your investment solutions?
Sure. We're going to establish a real estate development company, called Acre, using a portion of the ICO funds. A team is in the process of being put together and once confirmed will be listed on the Acre part of the rise.vision website. I'd like to bring in expertise of architects Richard and Peter Lucking (based in France and US respectively) and several well established people in the building industry. The Acre team, including myself, will complete the first projects using as much in house skills as possible (keeping costs down) and depending on success recruit more people as the company grows. The aim is to scale up Acre like any fledgling business and into something that is self funding in it's growth and asset accumulation. That would mean Acre building and selling properties (to increase working capital) then moving onto build to lets which in turn would fund even more build to lets.... A % of profits would be paid to anybody holding Rise and or Acre. There may be separate funding rounds to help Acre start new projects but initially all Rise holders will be entitled to Acre tokens. Because Acre is a traditional business model returns to investors would initially get a return on a project by project basis. Here is a brief overview of an Acre development showing the kind of profits that would be returned to investors / Rise holders. It also goes on to show the potential for growth. Step 1: The first build. A 9 unit apartment build in my area of France would cost approx 600,000 euros including land, materials and labour. The sale price of each apartment would be in the region of 110,000 euros. Total sales price one million euros (approx). 400K euros taxable profits. After tax (could be more or less depending on the type of company founded) leaves approx 300K euros net profit. 50% of those profits goes back into the Acre company treasury for expansion. 50% i.e 150K euros is shared out to all Rise / Acre holders. Step 2: The second build/s With 750K euros now available we can build 12 apartments. 1.32M euro sale price minus 750K costs. Steps 3 and on... Once we are in a position to build 20 apartments they can be rented out, providing Acre a constant return of approx 12,000 euros per month. Now Acre can be grown in a semi autonomous way in that it can and finance new builds without selling assets. At this stage and at the end of each year 50% of after tax profits go to Acre token holders. There could be a possibility to vote on selling assets in order to free up capital for faster growth, but between here and there... it's a long way to go!  Wasnt expecting that! This has been done before. Lost track of where it is currently, but last time i looked, it was still operating. Seem to remember their problem was the volatility of BTC against their asset valuations. https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=RENT |
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Attacking a the reputation of a man's children (when those children aren't even here to defend themselves) from behind an anonymous internet account is abusive and I dare say maybe prosecutable in the UK and/or the USA. Only a very dumb person would assume that your words wouldn't be also hurtful and damaging to the children as well.
You make your children read these posts, as well as listen to your version of your world order?? Like i originally said.......absolutely petrifying. |
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God my ass is burning from hotsauce.
Bullish
Hmmm. satoshisauce.com has a certain ring to it, and still available. What would the ingredients be? Finely chopped Craig liver, cooked rare so the blood still flows. Followed by a highly whipped Matonis merange (must be whipped, thoroughly), served with prime plump Andresen plums. |
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God my ass is burning from hotsauce.
Bullish
Hmmm. satoshisauce.com has a certain ring to it, and still available. |
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Take it easy! Coindesk was always a place what was not a friend of Java-based blockchain solutions. I remember when Coindesk has completely ignored Nxt, even on times when it has had a market capitalization of 50-80 million $. Coindesk authors are pro C(++).
Why on Earth would a website be prejudiced against a, er, programming language? Because back then, POS was considered to be hog-wash, and totally against the spirit of a viable crypto currency. |
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What would be Craig Wrights motive for all this, he should knew that his lie would last only for couple of days the most.Nobody can be that stupid,or maybe he really is Satoshi and that all is somehow his move we just dont get it.
Craig is not Satoshi. But it looks like he had some kind of contact with the group, Satoshi was part of. Can only think Craig is/was trying position himself for a power grab, with the financial benefits that come with it. Scammy behavior, whoever he is. Im still maintaining that Ira Klieman has infos, that would answer the pertinent questions. |
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Actually not a bad shit-eating grin on him. Would be nice to see a side-by-side comparison of these 2 stooges.
like this?   Stop it. My eyes hurt. |
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Although it may turn out to be false alarm. It is still interesting to see what other high level techs will say about this double hashing and possible vulnerability.
Let's await the discussion and hope it is comprehensible even in part to the layman. It's got to be more interesting than the usual spam that clutters the main alt board.
Amen, and a little reminder as to why alts serve a purpose, at least the ones that didn't copy/paste BTC. Here is a few morsels of technical kryptonite for the "meme image self-masturbation" trolls[ ducks]cock-suckers to gag on: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1459846.msg14766916#msg14766916So they want to play hardball... okay I know that game too... Whose cock are you sucking today boiz? Gmax? Bitalik? Sincereo? Duckefeller? Cat got your tongue or mouth too full of yummy finger-licking-good semen? The low-life anonymous scum that is here on BCT: Feel sorry for the kids. Half-Filipino......half-petrified. What kind of man talks about another man's kids on a public forum hiding behind anonymity. That isn't a man. I dare him to say that to my face. You run out of ammunition to attack my reputation with, so you involve my kids who have nothing to do with anything that is going on here on this putrefied forum. You brought your kids into this forum, not me. Reputation? How does that look from your side of the screen, exactly? Im not going to fuel your narcissistic self-important needs here, so yeah, anytime you come to Europe, look me up. Happy to do face to face stuff. No problem. |
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Joseph VaughnPerling: You had some questions?
Aaron van Wirdum: The main question I have right now is: If Wright is Satoshi ... why would he publish fake proof? Any idea?
JVP: I have some very good ideas. If I were in Dr. Wright's position, I would do exactly as he has done.
I also have a message for Dr. Wright from the trustee of the Tulip trust that is controlling the coins that he wants to move. Not yet announced:
“The Tulip Trading Trust trustee, appointed by Dave Kleiman as of Oct 12nd 2012. It has been rumored that Craig Wright will need to access Tulip Trading Trust assets. Trustee acts in the interest of the beneficiary alone and must defend against undue influence by others. In order to authorize movements of trust assets the beneficiary must come forward and make a direct request of the trustee our way–NOT via 3rd party nor any intermediaries. Any coin movement affecting the trust asset without prior authorization will be considered a trust violation and invalid irrespective of any claim of constructive bailment. The Trust alone has control over its assets. Tampering or manipulating with trust assets by anyone (including the beneficiary) might have material legal and tax implications. Beneficiaries are invited to a conference call 12:00 UTC Friday to discuss interests. Principals only.”
AVW: Can you help me out here? Who's who in this message? Is Wright a beneficiary?
JVP: It is not my place to speculate on the transactions and assets of others.
AVW: So you don't know?
JVP: What I know and when I know it is not something I am interested in sharing. At least as regards the matter of the finances of others. It would show me to be a nosy one. And that much is already apparent to anyone looking at me. My nose is hard to miss.
AVW: As I interpret that message, Dave Kleiman locked up Satoshi's holdings with Tulip Trust. In order to move Satoshi’s coins, like Wright said he would, he needs access. Which he may or may not get ...
JVP: Close, but it shows that you are not entirely familiar with how a trust works.
AVW: That is correct.
JVP: Did you have other questions?
AVW: Why do you have this message?
JVP: He will know why.
AVW: Why are you sharing it with me?
JVP: It will also be shared with some selected cryptographers.
AVW: But I can publish it?
JVP: Kind of you to ask. Yes.
AVW: So you're really sharing it with the world then. Which brings us back to "why"...
JVP: I would like for Craig Wright to have his privacy. He has already done more for us than we can repay, but it is not just this. I would like him to be able to do what he wants to do, without interference. We would all be better off when that occurs.
AVW: How does sharing that message help?
JVP: He is following a wrong path, because he must. He is doing it the least-wrong way possible. He is on Meifumando. It is as it has to be.
AVW: What is the wrong path? And what is the right path?
JVP: The world can learn much from what he has done and how. He is showing what cryptography does and does not do. It is a lesson that the world needs to learn before mass adoption can occur.
AVW: Mass adoption of Bitcoin?
JVP: The world was not ready for Bitcoin when it appeared. When the world learns these simple lessons, it will be more ready.
AVW: Why is Bitcoin not ready for mass adoption?
JVP: People do not understand what cryptography does and does not do. People do not understand pseudonymous. Having a key means you have a key. It does not mean you had it previously, or that you will have it in the future.
AVW: Right ... So?
JVP: He is forced on a stage, so he provides a masterful lesson that many who call themselves cryptographers seem to have forgotten.
AVW: In what way is he forced?
JVP: He said it himself, the decision to appear was made by others. Did you not even watch his video on BBC?
AVW: Of course I did.
JVP: Watch it again. You missed a lot.
AVW: But he didn't say in what way he was forced, did he? Or how, or why ...
JVP: I will say this much. If I were in his situation, I would have done as he did, though probably not even as well as he did.
AVW: Wright's Twitter account bio says Ian Grigg and yourself maintain it. Is that true?
JVP: Dr. Wright deleted his Twitter account for his own protection. A friend of his picked up the account as it came available to preserve it for him.
AVW: So Ian and yourself are currently controlling that Twitter account?
JVP: There may be others involved as well, but we are the ones that are taking the bullets.
AVW: How well do you actually know Wright? You speak like you know him very well, but you just met him at a conference once, didn't you?
JVP: I met him at a conference in 2005, he wore the moniker. We discussed what became Bitcoin at great length. He knew all there was to know about Bitcoin in 2005, and he shared it with me. I did not learn his government-registered name until much later.
AVW: So you did get to know him later on?
JVP: That's a story for another time.
AVW: Did you know Dave Kleiman as well?
JVP: Dave Kleiman was an exceptional man. If you want to know more about Dave, you should talk to the SANS folks.
One of the top SANS people is also having a conference in Las Vegas in September, where the Trustee of the Tulip Trust is expected to appear.
AVW: Expected to appear?
JVP: Very high probability.
Not all details are decided, but I have heard that they may be even auctioning consultations with her.
AVW: You realize all of this is a really weird story, right?
JVP: Yes, and you have seen only the snowdrift on the tip of the iceberg. The level of weird is off the scale.
AVW: Do you know the full story?
JVP: I doubt even Craig knows the full story, but I could fill about 20 books.
AVW: No offense, but: Why should I trust any of this? Why should I trust anything you say?
JVP: Do your own research. Keep on your quest for knowledge. When you find someone who can teach you, listen carefully. When you find someone that can learn from you, be kind.
AVW: You're skilled at avoiding questions through what sounds like ancient wisdoms.
JVP: You are a reporter, the ancient wisdom is multiple sources, so ... do your own research … Oh great. More cryptic i-know-something-you-dont bullshit. Since he mentioned it in that transcript, Joseph has said to me, that he met someone who said the words Satoshi Nakamoto before 2008. At the time (2 years ago) he wasnt sure of the date, but thought it was around 2006/7, though. Said it was a cypherpunk type meeting, and Joseph was asked to join the GROUP. He didnt, and forgot about it, until Bitcoin was born. |
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So Matonis and Andreson whore themselves once again, and happily play Craigs tune, while everyone else is rightly demanding that the power of the blockchain be shown to the world in one easy transaction, which does not need to involve anyone else. Jeeeze, the foundation (small f) didnt stand a chance with these self serving, self righteous clowns deciding how Bitcoin should be used and importantly, perceived. I wonder if people who have received advises from these two over the years (companies/governments/trade reps etc.), are questioning the info they got. I bloody would. Andreas for President, i say! |
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Surely NOXT is worth a bit more than 30 BTCS market cap!!?? Or is it!?
How much would you value an individuals pet hobby, who has a day job? 30BTC sounds alot. Maybe he was just shorting himself against the market, sell high - do nothing - buy low - profit  Anyway I'm out long ago, I even managed to recover my loses with shitcoin trading. Just in case it motivates jason in some strange way, I would still be happy to see (some) of you getting your investment back. With the amount you had, that was no mean feat! Well done |
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The man definitely has his priorities right. I mean if he was so sorry for Andersen, why doesn't he simply sign something so as to actually do something about it, like repair the damage to Andersens reputation by proving he indeed is Satoshi?
His "sorry" is of no good to Andersen.
Who is this Andersen person you keep referring to? My hand always types him that way, lol... I should stick with Gavin Gavin? Whos that? |
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Surely NOXT is worth a bit more than 30 BTCS market cap!!?? Or is it!?
How much would you value an individuals pet hobby, who has a day job? 30BTC sounds alot. |
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