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6661  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Hardware wallet wire protocol on: November 16, 2012, 11:20:01 PM
Watching.
6662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WordPress.com accepts Bitcoins on: November 16, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
its quite exciting because all week everyone was talking about Reddit, Reddit, Reddit.  And then Wordpress comes out of nowhere and drops the biggest ringing endorsement you could ask for.

Reddit are still "thinking about it" last I heard, maybe they'll be calling up EFF to ask for their permission?
6663  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ANN] Hardware wallet project on: November 16, 2012, 10:58:33 PM
ok, gonna follow this for real ... I'm a sucker for hardware prototype pics.

Slush:

- what will be level of serial comms allowable with the board? (e.g. stty access via minicom?)
6664  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [BOUNTY] 1BTC for hardware wallet name on: November 16, 2012, 08:54:24 PM
Kunekune



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunekune

..  pronounced coon-nee coon-nee is a small domestic pig from New Zealand, they are intelligent and sociable and widely used for pets ... mostly for farm kids of course.

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Kunekune are suitable for a novice owner as they are placid, friendly and love human company. They are intelligent and easy to train.

Can't imagine that is copyrighted  Wink



kunekune piglet ... comes in many colours

http://www.kunekune.co.nz/forsale.html
6665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WordPress.com accepts Bitcoins on: November 16, 2012, 12:16:09 PM
I would not be surprised if their knee jerk reaction was: "Remove bitcoin from your site, or else we will freeze your PayPal accounts"
A move like that would have a very high potential of backfiring.

Wordpress has a big soapbox, and PayPal needs Wordpress more than Wordpress needs PayPal.

This is extremely important. WordPress is synomous with freedom of speech. This allows us to reframe the Bitcoin debate from being used to buy drugs to ensuring our freedom of speech. We saw how fast the Internet rallied against SOPA, PIPA, etc. Bitcoin will get a lot more public support for freedom of speech. Coupled with the everyone with a soapbox using Bitcoin to pay for their soapbox ... I cannot really think of a more important propellant for public Bitcoin support.

PayPal recently fired 325 employees and 120 independent contractors. If they tried to freeze WordPress they would encounter a fury from the Internet like SOPA did. I imagine a lot of bloggers would boycott Paypal out of spite.

The "bitcoin enables electronic freedom of the word press" angle on this that WP have gone out of their way to highlight kind of makes EFF lawyers look like yellow muppets for not getting out in front of ... maybe this will give them some spine?
6666  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Free source code and live demo, how to accept btc on your site on: November 16, 2012, 01:24:35 AM
What's the security (i.e. wallet/key management) like for this package?

It seems like it could be really useful.
6667  Other / Off-topic / Re: GPU based onion hash generator on: November 16, 2012, 01:19:01 AM
I've just edited the post; here's a donation address: 1E82DM9mxvvfMfVAwpDANbkwXc2uWvQD1. I hope the original authors of this thread show up at some point as well. I've just tested on a 5770 - about 600MH/s.

Heh, couldn't find the right vanity address then?   Smiley
6668  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-11-15 WordPress Blog - WordPress Now Accepting Bitcoins on: November 16, 2012, 12:52:02 AM
Great use case for bitcoin ... excellent match up and has lots of follow through possibilities also, e.g. how many WordPress users might think "good enough for WordPress, good enough for me" when planning a payment option for their users.

Actually, are there any plans for a WordPress bitcoin payment plugin a la paypal plugin? (I imagine Bitpay is already onto it).

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-easy-paypal-payment-or-donation-accept-plugin/

Giving the WordPress user base easy access to bitcoin payment options would be the big coup here.
6669  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [BOUNTY] 1BTC for hardware wallet name on: November 16, 2012, 12:32:36 AM
Hard-As

Harden-Up
6670  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, ECB and a Free Money Movement. on: November 15, 2012, 05:25:02 AM
Here's another topical article that's worth a perusal:

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One of the key pillars to returning money to the people, as Ron Paul mentions in a new edition of The Case for Gold which will be released this week for free to Laissez Faire members, is to undo government’s monopoly on money creation. None of us can imagine what that would be like because the government has held such a monopoly in modern times.

But money is no different than anything else. It benefits from the spirit of enterprise. Competition is good. Competition leads to product innovation. It ensures product quality. In contrast, as with any monopoly provider, the government’s money product has denigrated over time. Since 1971 the U.S. dollar has no backing. The coinage has gone from gold to silver to an alloy of copper and zinc.

http://lfb.org/today/good-money-is-real-money/

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As evidence that the market is seeking a sounder currency, the digital world has developed a currency that is getting attention and use, Bitcoin. Bitcoins have no central issuer but are administered through a decentralized peer-to-peer network that began in 2009. There are somewhere around 10 million bitcoin in existence and more will be released until a total of 21 million have been created by the year 2140.

Bitcoins is the currency of the online black market. For instance, The Silk Road (Amazon of the illegal drug trade) only accepts payments in Bitcoin. The European Central Bank observes in a new report that “It operates at a global level and can be used as a currency for all kinds of transactions (for both virtual and real goods and services), thereby competing with official currencies like the euro or US dollar.”

It is not the best or final answer to the monetary problem but it does serve as evidence that market desires something better than what governments are giving us.
6671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone know what happened to knightmb and his 371,000 BTC? on: November 15, 2012, 02:53:31 AM
If you are skilled in programming, why don't you just make an alternate chain?
Bitcoin has serious problems that could use fixing. There is no way you are going to convince the developers to fix them. They will just deny the existence of these problems.

If you make an obviously better product, you can convince users to adopt it. Just making the back-end better is not enough, however. You need to offer users some salient new features.

Key problems include:
1) Long-run sustainable blockchain [don't know anything about scalability etc., but the bitcoin system will not be secure without block reward. I am sure of that. This is part of the back-end.]
2) Wallet security [There is no reason why users should have to expose their entire balance to theft whenever they send coins. Fixing this would be a salient new feature.]

You suggest that there are other issues. I don't have any programming expertise and cannot comment on these. Why not fix everything you can and release a higher quality product?  
There answer to "why not" is two pronged.

1) The mills of justice turn slow, but grind exceedingly fine. Just read the first paragraph of my BIP 2112 proposal. As a technical advisor/export to a plaintiff all my Bitcoin-related correspondence is potentialy subject to the discovery by the defendant counsel. I don't want to get involved in some sort interferrence accusactions, conflicts of interests, etc. I use my "social capital" to post here as a premier cryptocurrency forum to assure that everything technical I wrote is a matter of public domain and cannot become some sort of submarine patent. It really is secondary whether somebody implements my ideas or not. They just have to be matter of public domain.

2) IMHO another real-time, reflective, in-vivo alt-chain is not the way to go and waste of the effort. IMHO the cryptocurrency field will be stagnant until some enterprising biz-school grad or doctoral student does some sort of in-vitro discrete-time simulation experiments using GPSS or some such. When the headline will be something like "100-years of Bitcoin evolution simulated overnight" it will mean that the crypto-currencies have arrived as a field of research.

I mean I don't mind and even support you and others discussing alternatives. It is important to keep the ideas in the open, public domain. But it somewhat resembles the philosophical "what if?" discussions I've heard in the theological departments. But when the "what if?" are much-faster-than-real time animations then the actual scientific discovery will happen and the whole field will move forward. Either as a field of research or as an venture investment opportunity.

Nice, fast-moving WebGPSS or similar animations sell better than the walls of text or pages of certifiably-secure cryptographic algorithms. My contributions are really mundane, on the par of "how to make a good oil-pan washer so your engine won't seize even on the bumpiest road".


Your words are so full of crap it is hard to know where to begin shovelling ... I would place bets you have an MBA, law degree or perhaps both?

It will be many re-incarnations before you come close to releasing a crypto-currency, at least we can be sure of and glad for that.
6672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, ECB and a Free Money Movement. on: November 13, 2012, 11:14:34 PM

http://lfb.org/today/currencies-of-the-future/

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Many people complain about government control of currency, but only a few do something about it. I’m not talking about movements to “audit the Fed” and such. I’m talking about real innovation that makes an end run around the government’s iron grip on the monetary system.

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Ironically, while some economists are pooh-poohing Bitcoin, the ECB devotes some of their lengthy report to the idea that the Austrian school of economics provides the theoretical roots for the virtual currency. The business cycle theory of Mises, Hayek and Bohm-Bawerk is explained in the report and Hayek’s Denationalisation of Money is mentioned. ....
The report writers indicate that Bitcoin supporters see the virtual currency as a starting point for ending central bank money monopolies.

And so it begins .... the more widely it becomes recognised that the monopoly of the money power is the problem, (to the point of being 'obvious' in retrospect), the faster the market can be allowed to fix it.
6673  Economy / Economics / Re: What is Money? on: November 13, 2012, 08:05:13 AM

How does the regression theorem apply to prison 'money', eg. cigarettes, booze, drugs (not sure what is used these days)?

Bitcoin is similar to prison money, in that the Western states have gradually outlawed a freely traded digital money product and implemented a type of fiscal prison planet arrangement, whereby digital transactions are monitored and scrutinised with all the power of the state apparatus and every citizen is a suspect, presumed guilty. bitcoin monetisation is somewhat a natural reaction of the 'prisoners' seeking to trade with more monetary freedom. TSR being the obvious example as supposedly one of the biggest uses of bitcoin.

Arguing about the where, hows and whys of bitcoin being used as money without recognising the circumstances of our time, that has given birth to bitcoin, is discounting the context as surely as discounting the context of prisoners being incarcerated as having nothing to do with them monetising cigarettes.
6674  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, ECB and a Free Money Movement. on: November 13, 2012, 05:31:54 AM
The creation of Napster meant the music industry was obsolete.

The creation of Bitcoin means the banking industry is obsolete.

All that is needed is participation, the rest will take care of itself - inexorably and silently until the walls crumble down upon those holding meetings to handle the "new" threat.


Yeah, maybe. But look how the whole Napster, Gnutella, Lime-Wire, MegaUpload thing panned out? We now have massive state apparatus in place globally for monitoring points on the internet ostensibly for "illegal" file-sharing, and who knows what else that will be used for in time? If back when there was enough wisdom and education within policy-making (and less vested interests from the twilight industries) file-sharing may have been widely accepted as a natural evolution of an interconnected network of computers, something to be embraced, not feared and hounded out to the margins of acceptability.

If freedom was widely accepted as the way forward to a prosperous future, not something to be feared in ignorance, and regulated out of existence, how much better off could we be? Maybe there aren't any purely evil actors within the central banking structures (not going to rule that out though) but that does not mean the structure itself can not be systemically evil, an out of control gargantuan machine of oppression.
6675  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone know what happened to knightmb and his 371,000 BTC? on: November 13, 2012, 05:20:55 AM

Your implicit assumption here is "the bitcoin made people do bad things" ...

... people do bad bad things, not computers, nor software nor crypto .... blaming bitcoin for the bad things people do is infantile, bordering on insane.

Nope.  KnightMB did questionable things that didn't involve Bitcoin at all.  Anything which offers an opportunity to part fools and their money is going to attract its fair share of opportunists.  Anything which is perceived as offering anonymity is also going to attract its fair share of opportunists.  Bitcoin is just another tool they're going to use.

What I was addressing was the assumption that because people are in a position where they could do something to benefit Bitcoin as a whole or "make a contribution" to Bitcoin they have some obligation to do so.  I think any such assumption greatly over-estimates the number of people who have some kind of ideological loyalty to Bitcoin.  People aren't spending tens of thousands of dollars on mining rigs "to maintain the blockchain".  The didn't invest with pirate because it was "good for Bitcoin".  They don't speculate on Bitcoin prices for ideological reasons.  A lot of people don't give a shit about Bitcoin per se - it's purely a means to an end for them.

Bitcoin doesn't make people do bad things but in the short-term it has some characteristics which are appealing to those who want to do certain types of shitty things.  There's certainly no deterrent to using this community to perpetrate scams when the community response is pretty much always "let's stop talking about it, put it behind us and move forward".  Any community - Bitcoin related or not - where there's a critical mass of people looking to get rich quick who also have a distaste for regulation and other government intervention is a scammer haven and this community is no exception.

If Bitcoin isn't robust enough to withstand negative publicity and negative events then it is ultimately doomed to remain a niche technology used only by Satoshi fanboys.

The "bitcoin community" term is making me more than a little sick ... it is meaningless ... I don't think there is any such "community". Are you saying because I have an interest in bitcoin I am somewhat responsible for what some low-lifes get up to?

Is there such a "Euro community"? A "Fed Res. dollar community"? It's utter collectivist BS to ascribe a 'community' to a group of users who choose to use a type of payment system... wtf? "Visa community", "mastercard community", "PayPal community" ... obviously, there is no bitcoin 'community', it's a made up meaningless term allowing people to assign collective responsibility/attributes to an otherwise disparate group. It also dumbs down a much richer and complicated situation so people don't have to think about it too much, and makes the propaganda that much more effective.

6676  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone know what happened to knightmb and his 371,000 BTC? on: November 13, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
We should all just leave this behind.  It's obviously not going to do any good for BTC or anything for that matter.  I support this guy and his hundreds of thousands of BTC, but seeing as how hard it is for a new miner to just get even on BTC, more energy should be focused on making this a better project all around.  

It isn't good that he did 'what' he did, but it's done and over with.  Hopefully it won't escalate.

Jesus wept.  People say exactly the same thing about anything negative which happens in the Bitcoin world.  "It's not good for Bitcoin", "let's put it behind us and move forward".  It's one of the reasons why there are no meaningful consequences for scammers.

Like it or not, Bitcoin is going to be used for things which attract the attention of the authorities, whether it's Silk Road, extortion attempts or trading child porn.  "lalalala I can't hear you" is not the best way to respond to things which bring negative attention to Bitcoin.

You're also forgetting that many people in the community thought that the ransom attempt was a good thing in that it got Bitcoin mentioned in the mainstream media in a big way.  For once, it wasn't only those who read the technology pages who were reading about Bitcoin - anyone following the US election campaign could have learned about Bitcoin for the first time because of the coverage the extortion attempt received.

Your implicit assumption here is "the bitcoin made people do bad things" ...

... people do bad bad things, not computers, nor software nor crypto .... blaming bitcoin for the bad things people do is infantile, bordering on insane.
6677  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [BOUNTY] 1BTC for hardware wallet name on: November 12, 2012, 11:34:42 AM


BitHard

or

HardBits
6678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, ECB and a Free Money Movement. on: November 12, 2012, 08:24:49 AM
http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=3420

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Money is not a “social institution”, as the report claims. The ECB is a social institution. Money is the property of individuals; it does not depend on any institution for it to come into being or have its value (Bitcoin being the latest example of this, if indeed it is money; the FSA in the UK says it is not) and the best form of money is gold. Gold in your hands is separate from any issuer, has a value in and of itself, “inherent value” and is not a part of ‘Society’ or a ‘social institution’ or any other fictional socialist nonsense.

Money has not been affected by technological innovations; it remains exactly the same in nature, just as man’s nature has not changed because he can make a phone call. This is a fundamental, though not surprising, error of the authors of this work.

Thought this subtle, yet crucial, point was made succinctly.
6679  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, ECB and a Free Money Movement. on: November 11, 2012, 08:26:58 PM
Okay, so I'll put you down for a definite no then, (timing is wrong).

Next.
6680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone know what happened to knightmb and his 371,000 BTC? on: November 11, 2012, 08:25:45 PM
Here's a wild thought: the whole Romney blackmail hoax was a black-op with enough "clues" left around pointing toward knightMB to give probable cause for his arrest, detention and confiscation of 'evidence'.

If Secret Service wanted to investigate/discredit a major, public player of bitcoin sphere then the coincidence that they have happened to get exactly the right guy for both purposes seems slim ... imho.
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