Yes, we collaborate out of greed. The point is ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed works, greed is right, greed clarifies, cuts through and captures the evolutionary spirit Greed in all of its forms, greed for money, for life, love knowledge, has marked the upwards surge of man kind. And Greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much (yes I typed that from memory). I love that all other people are greedy as well. Makes them predictable ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Tautologies are my favorite of all fallacies. Then deny the antecedent and mix ad nauseum. It makes a cocktail best served with double shot chasers.
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"Marxist Libertarian" is a contradiction in terms.
Marxism has to do mostly with economics and property. Libertarianism is more about personal freedom. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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I'm in favor of a living wage law, Minimum wage is a form of subjugation.
Also i think we should make it a federal offense for a person or a corporation to outsource an American job overseas, Punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
That's a little extreme. Maybe if we stop paying corporations to outsource jobs overseas that might be enough to stop them from doing it.
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Greed is good... Greed without bad consequences is the problem.
did you just say something good not resulting in something bad is the problem? binary logic fail ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Greed is good PERIOD It's what drives evolution and has driven it since the first spark of life. I kinda like evolution, don't you? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Everything that evolves also goes extinct. That's why punctuated equilibrium is observed in long existing species. Humanity exists because we learned to cooperate instead of continuously compete for every resource. We learn to delay gratification for better rewards for ourselves and everyone else.
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Combining a security hologram with a cryptocoin would be a way to tag the registration of unique objects. I'm thinking of things like original art or a series of prints. Just like Casascius coins, the original private key would be embedded beneath the hologram. The holder of the piece would have a copy of the private key and would transfer ownership by creating a new transaction and applying a second hologram while leaving the original intact. The secondary hologram can be replaced anytime the object is sold as long as the original is there to verify the authenticity of the piece.
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that Michelle Bowans (?) guy from the p2p foundation is awesome: There's a few things we like about Bitcoin. The first thing is, we call it a 'socialist sovereign currency', so it's a currency which is not created by the banks and it's not created by the state. It really exists because there is a human community, you know, the hacker community, the bitcoin community, which wants this to works and trusts the protocol that is designed to create the money. So this is a kind of historical moment for [?] with failing currency: we used to have local currencies, then the nationstate came and basically destroyed them. The fact that we now have a working global currency that is created by a community - in our mind - is usually significant as a kind of symbolic moment in the history of mankind.
awesome! and grok!
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@ Mike Hearn - I 95% agree with you, but most people are too lazy or ignorant to manage their spam. Besides, I'm not suggesting a replacement system, just a way to bypass spam filters.
So far I'm seeing that folks think this may be a good idea, but not yet. I suppose more exploration into the efficacy of probabilistic payments is needed. I haven't seen scheme that would be universal enough for wide acceptance. Maybe email will end up in the domain of social networking for anti-spam solutions. At some point, money and social networking will also probably converge. Perhaps probabilistic payments processed by social networks can lead to whitelisting.
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Let me define what I mean by bounty. I'm talking about raising funds for development. In the case of the cost of sending a nano-payment for email, then yes just a minimum amount should suffice. Maybe 0.001 BTC is nothing for an individual, but for a spammer that sends many thousands of emails it would add up. We would need a good method for nanopayments though, since spamming the network with this would be a bad idea. Maybe the probabilistic payment method would be good for this.
Probabilistic payments would be great, but so far it's only a hypothesis. AFAIK there isn't even a proof-of-concept for probabilistic payments yet. We could just as well use Ripple or LETS. As far as spamming the network goes, I guess we'll need to use whatever minimum fee will be accepted by miners.
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Even though I mostly ignore him, he does make interesting "Devil's Advocate" arguments. His scientism gets in the way of getting passed his mistakes. Hopefully his passion for the technology will overcome his tunnel vision. His juvenile attitude is another story. I presume it is because he is probably quite young.
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I love their "stick it to the man / banks" attitude !
That's because Max was a Wall Street trader even back before they became the one percent. He saw the corruption that led to the "Greed is Good" mantra firsthand.
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More socialism for the rich. Why should my tax dollars support some corporate cheapskate that won't pay a living wage? Worse yet, why should the business paying the unemployment insurance premiums for that former employee subsidize his competitor? If the government wants to intervene, why put the burden of the unemployed on taxpayers and domestic businesses instead of the addressing the issues that caused the unemployment and underemployment problems to begin with? Stop producing a stupid and lazy workforce. Stop subsidizing outsourcing and roll back the Reagan Voodoo Economics.
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Thanks for this. With the exception of Anonymous, these groups are mostly transparent. While privacy is important, open discussion is what brings injustices to light. I suppose there will be Anonymous type organizations attracting freedom loving people as long as freedom deniers usurp power beyond their authority.
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Max,
Love u Man!
Stacy Herbert rocks too!
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Let's say you are willing to publish your email address publicly, but you don't want to have to keep track of who your friends are, nor want to become part of a spam list. As to date, there are NO reliable spam filters because for every scheme devised, there are ways to counter them. It's getting to the point when one must go through spam to find an important email. Spammers are like roaches and can never be eliminated by conventional means. Let's take away their incentive to operate. Hashcash is a good idea, but monetizing email can open up new markets. Enter Bitcoin-based email. There will be a big demand for an email application that requires a nano-payment "postage" to receive an email. The transaction can be small enough that it would be no burden to any individual, but at least an irritating inconvenience to spammers. It could also be integrated with standard email, but paid email would be given top priority. As far as the bounty is concerned, I'm not qualified to judge code, so I'll leave that to any dev willing to volunteer. I'll make this a poll so that even if you are not able to donate to the bounty, nor contribute any thoughts to the idea, you can show support for the idea. Also, if you didn't know, by using a poll you don't need to post "subscribe" nor go to your email to see if there is an update to this thread. Finally, I know this idea has been discussed before, but I have seen no progress lately. Hence, the bounty proposal.
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The US Constitution was an experiment. It failed. It's time for a (bloodless this time) revolution. Bitcoin is the shot heard 'round the world. There will be a new world order, but not one forced upon We the People, but by science and reason. My intent with this thread was to explore the questions: 1) Is bitcoin protected by the US Constitution under the 'right to contract' clause? 2) What are the implications of the answer to question 1 relative to bitcoin Your response does not address these questions and is highly subjective. It is also factually incorrect as evidenced by the letter sent from the Justice Department to the Federal courts recently regarding the authority of the courts relative to the executive branch. Were you aware that the constitution also provides for a series of bloodless revolutions? You espouse reason and then dismiss my premise by ad hominem attack. I challenge you to demonstrate your understanding of reason by refuting any of the points I've made with an actual rebuttal. Your point is well made. Now try to stop the US Government from simply ignoring the US Constitution as they do so frequently. My ad hominem is not directed at you, but to the entire legal industry that produces greedy, socially bankrupt attorneys.
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P2SH looks very promising, but I fear I may be overestimating its potential. I can see various forms of escrow being very powerful and desirable features, especially with m-of-n transactions. Timelock (sp?) will add immeasurable flexibility as well. My mind reels with the possibilities for very complex scripts with very socially positive applications. It's not that I'm concerned about the bloating effect a transaction can have because it is very useful, but my only concern right now is simple. Can the Bitcoin network itself support complex scripts given enough fee incentives? In other words, aside from scalability, can these transactions get so big that they don't propagate?
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The US Constitution was an experiment. It failed. It's time for a (bloodless this time) revolution. Bitcoin is the shot heard 'round the world. There will be a new world order, but not one forced upon We the People, but by science and reason.
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It turns out they fail even harder than I thought, which is actually kind of an accomplishment. First, they suspended demurrage for April, presenting this as a good thing. So even they don't believe their own bullshit philosophy. Second, the email in which they announced this put all the recipients' email addresses in the To: line. So now I have the emails of everyone on their list. ( link) LOL. Someone send them info about Bitcoin!
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P.S. Haters be hatin'. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Glad to see you're almost ready to go to print. What a relief that must be. Hopefully, that will give you time for the next Christmas video special! =p
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