Why do you think Christians should kill themselves? You're putting words in my mouth, I never said all Christians should kill themselves! I have many Christians in my family, but as far I know they're not dirty masturbators. They only make love to bear children, as God intended. I only said that Christian abominations, such as Christian masturbators, should consider what was Written by The Lord God (who slaughtered his children for this and similar sins) and act accordingly. If homosexuality is a sin, masturbation is an equal sin in the eyes of God. You don't get to cherry-pick from the perfect Holy Book.
You just said all sins were equal in the eyes of God. According to your words, if one sin is worth killing yourself for, then all sins are worth killing yourself for. All Christians sin (because everyone sins), so according to your words, all Christians should kill themselves. I never put words into your mouth, everyone here can read your quotes. Putting words in my mouth yet again, are all Christians this good at shoving things into other people's mouths, or just you and half the priests? Masturbation = homosexuality in the eyes of God unless you're a hermophrodite, in which case I'm not sure how God's law applies. |
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Why do you think Christians should kill themselves? You're putting words in my mouth, I never said all Christians should kill themselves! I have many Christians in my family, but as far I know they're not dirty masturbators. They only make love to bear children, as God intended. I only said that Christian abominations, such as Christian masturbators, should consider what was Written by The Lord God (who slaughtered his children for this and similar sins) and act accordingly. Christianity is fatwa free, so safe to make fun of...  I feel just as safe mocking any other religion, and will gladly do so should some of their ilk show themselves here. |
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I believe I called Beliathon a moron awhile back actually, the reason none of us respond to him I suspect is because most have put him on their ignore lists by now, this guy is a classic misandrist and authoritarian scumbag.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominemTelling a group of people based upon their religion to kill themselves, wishing a group of people dead based upon their religion, is reminiscent of Hitler killing and torturing Jews. Why do you refuse God's justice? It's right there in the Holy Book as I've already demonstrated! Homosexuals and masturbators alike were punished by death on this continent in the colonial days, why shouldn't we go back to that? If homosexuality is a sin, masturbation is an equal sin in the eyes of God. You don't get to cherry-pick from the perfect Holy Book. God was displeased enough with Onan for spilling his seed that He slaughtered him (Genesis 38:9-10), but otherwise there are no explicit instructions for what to do with a masturbator, but there are implicit instructions.
It's simplest and most straightforward fact is that touching oneself for pleasure is a homosexual act, so it would seem that Leviticus 20:13 would cover that, but what does the scripture say?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
It's clear here that the Lord is talking about an act of sodomy with another man, not an act of self-sodomy.
But when someone is defiling himself through a lonely act of self-pleasure, he isn't thinking of baseball or cars. He is thinking of someone who is getting him aroused! JESUS HIMSELF said "Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28)
The LORD knows that such looks lead to sick pleasures, because immediately after he said, "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." (Matthew 5:29-30)
Cast into HELL! And He would have the courts of the land send you there quickly...
Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. |
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It might be somewhat accurate if God, Himself, didn't step in and manipulate things, which He will do again, when mankind become bad enough, as retarded as this thinking is.
Fixed your sentence, you had a minor grammar error there. |
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In Jesus all sins that you ask for forgiveness for are forgiven. You act like someone should die for committing a sin, well guess what? One did, Jesus.
Then why do Christians keep killing people? |
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What gives you the right to be intolerant and destroy the gender norms of the vast majority of the population? Nothing and no one gives me the right. I'm taking the right, because I am on fire with compassion. If someone has to give it to you, it's not a right - it's a privilege. It's only a right when you seize/assert it for yourself. The myth of gender hurts every innocent little girl, nearly all grown women, and every innocent boy too. The three most destructive words that every boy hears is "Be A Man". Here in the information age, religion has about the same odds of survival as Pi (3.14159) has of being returned back to it's biblical value of 3.0 |
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The point is that religion isn't dying. If it were, it would have died back with the people of Atlantis - the Atlantis that Graham Hancock and his cohorts are proving existed through archeological means. As it is, Atlantis is simply the end of the world through the great flood of Noah's day... the flood that God did because people tried to destroy true religion back then.
Yikes, you're really damaged bro. I'm so sorry. *hug* |
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Right-Wing people believe in economic freedom, they shouldn’t have to pay for someone else’s education or health service. They believe in freedom to succeed over equality.  About 150 years ago all right wing people believed in the freedom to own slaves. Most of them were killed, the survivors surrendered. Want a repeat, capitalist? |
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men going with other men, men pretending to be women, its an affront to decent human values everywhere Death penalty for masturbation? The FACTS say YES! Friends, the Bible is a perfect book. Anything not specifically mentioned in it can be worked out using simple common sense and logic. For example, masturbation. God was displeased enough with Onan for spilling his seed that He slaughtered him (Genesis 38:9-10), but otherwise there are no explicit instructions for what to do with a masturbator, but there are implicit instructions. It's simplest and most straightforward fact is that touching oneself for pleasure is a homosexual act, so it would seem that Leviticus 20:13 would cover that, but what does the scripture say? Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. It's clear here that the Lord is talking about an act of sodomy with another man, not an act of self-sodomy. But when someone is defiling himself through a lonely act of self-pleasure, he isn't thinking of baseball or cars. He is thinking of someone who is getting him aroused! JESUS HIMSELF said "Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28) The LORD knows that such looks lead to sick pleasures, because immediately after he said, "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." (Matthew 5:29-30) Cast into HELL! And He would have the courts of the land send you there quickly... Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Both the man and the woman he has adulterous thoughts about shall surely be put to death (legally through a court of law)! The facts couldn't be any more clear. We all know that masturbation, in addition to being a homosexual act, is an act of adultery and the Bible is clear on what the punishment for adultery should be. The punishment for masturbation should be death.Case closed.I expect every single one of you True Christian masturbators reading this to beg God's forgiveness, confess your sin, accept God's righteous punishment and end your life. God is watching, reflect upon the fate of your soul now and act with great care. |
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For someone who advocates killing God you sure do adopt the persona of a preacher giving a sermon. How perceptive you are. I'm not advocating killing God or anything else, as if you or I had any impact whatsoever! I'm simply pointing out my observation that the death of religion has already begun and there's nothing any of us can do to stop it. Technology giveth, technology taketh away. Woe unto all ye who stubbornly cling to the ways of the past.This Century's Forecast: Orgasms, reason, and science win. Violence, ignorance, and superstition (theism) lose. |
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I think, sex is a normal and natural thing between two peoples. Implying sex is abnormal and unnatural among three or more people? All consensual sex is natural, healthy, and fun. Doesn't matter their gender, or color, or how many participants there are. This self-evident truth is at this very moment being discovered by young people all over this planet. Religion, by contrast, is unnatural, unhealthy, and - worst of all sins - boring. |
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Religious sex is not better than regular sex, get over it. " tantric sex, is the modern, western variation of tantra often associated with new religious movements. This includes both New Age and modern Western interpretations of traditional Hindu and Buddhist tantra. Some of its proponents refer to ancient and traditional texts and principles" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeotantraSexual ritesAlthough equated with Tantra in the West, sexual rites were historically practiced by a minority of sects. For practicing groups, maithuna progressed into psychological symbolism.[54] According to White, the sexual rites of Vamamarga may have emerged from early Hindu Tantra as a means of catalyzing biochemical transformations in the body to facilitate heightened states of awareness.[54] These constitute an offering to Tantric deities. Later developments in the rite emphasize the primacy of bliss and divine union, which replace the bodily connotations of earlier forms.[54] This is clearly seen in Japanese tantra in Shingonshu of Tachikawa-ryu. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantra After all, sex can not always be ultimate nirvana as long as rape is alive. Words well-rooted in compassion; worth meditating on. |
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Incorrect. Tantric sex is not sex, that's your argument? "Crossfit is not cardio!" "Drag racing is not racing!" All kinds [subsets] of sex are part of the greater set Sex.Stop pulling a pigeon, it's obnoxious and if you continue you will forfeit the privilege of conversing with me.  |
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If sex is the ultimate nirvana, then why is tantric sex (axiomatically) more blissful? Tantric sex is [a subset of] sex, ergo this question is fallacious. Your fetishization of meditation is going to seem quaint in a few short decades when anyone will be able to use technology to reach a meditative state achievable today only by a handful of Zen Masters. |
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Then it is self-apparent you have never achieved a meditative state, which is infinitely more blissful by definition.
That's surprising, considering I have hundreds of hours of yoga and I'm a daily practitioner of Ericksonian meditation for over seven years. Maybe I've been doing it wrong this whole time? Or perhaps you shouldn't go around making assumptions about internet strangers. |
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No, I'm not interested in considering I'm wrong. That's terrible. The church has sealed your eyes, ears and mind tightly shut. That's standard religion protocol. If critical reasoning is not sufficiently impaired, the religion doesn't stick, it melts away in the face of everyday observation. What sane person, having experienced five or six orgasms in a day, would believe there's any need for a heaven after death, when heaven is so obviously a place here on Earth? What sane person, having achieved a meditative state, would believe an orgasm is a heavenly state? Nothing against meditation, but sex is the ultimate nirvana. Like mathematics, this is a self-evident truth, and no myths(lies) you write will ever change that. Also like mathematics, nearly everyone is born with everything required to experience this truth for themselves. |
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I mean this very seriously: World Peace and permanent environmental sustainability are both possible in a future when we teach our children to distinguish the Stuff That Matters from distraction bullshit.
Yours in compassion and solidarity,
World Citizen Beliathon
I wonder if you are one of those creepy Bahá’í Faith minions. I'm a minion of Science and humble servant of Truth, nothing more. Everything I have written on these forums is sincere. No one cares what you think of it. |
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What gives you the right to be intolerant and destroy the gender norms of the vast majority of the population while hiding behind a veil of tolerance?
I am merely a humble servant of Truth. All myths deserve to be destroyed, for they are worms eating away at the immortal tree of Truth. |
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No, I'm not interested in considering I'm wrong. That's terrible. The church has sealed your eyes, ears and mind tightly shut. That's standard religion protocol. If critical reasoning is not sufficiently impaired, the religion doesn't stick, it melts away in the face of everyday observation. What sane person, having experienced five or six orgasms in a day, would believe there's any need for a heaven after death, when heaven is so obviously a place here on Earth? |
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