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681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far on: December 13, 2023, 06:31:01 PM
I admit that this year or the end of this year Bitcoin often provides surprises, but I am sure that in 2024 Bitcoin will provide a much bigger surprise. Even though recently the price of bitcoin has risen drastically and the current price of bitcoin may be the highest this year, don't sell the bitcoin you have. Most people believe that 2024 is a bullish year, and this could come true and Bitcoin will actually reach a new ATH which is much higher than the previous ATh.
I think not often but I understand because life is going to be easy for us if that happens. Like you, many of us also believes that next year is much better than this year. I guess we already know why, so I don't want to mention it again. We still have 20 days left so there is still a chance that the price can rise more. With the performance Bitcoin is showing lately and going to show next year, I don't think many people are going to sell but they can actually buy more even though it's going to cost them a little more than usual. An ATH means All-Time-High, so obviously if one occurs, that price is going to be higher than the previous one/All-Time-High.
With this year ending very soon, people will start buying even at the end of this year, to get ready for the future as well and that should be the most important part. I get that we are not going to end up with anything simple, but that should definitely be the thing that we profit from as well.

I believe that we will not make all that much changes in our life, and we can't really have all that much differences between 28th of December and 2nd of January, people who know that will end up investing quicker to get there first. That's the thing about bull runs, you have to position yourself earlier than anyone else and if you could do that then you are going to be able to get the most out of the situation, and will definitely profit more than anyone else.
682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is the only currency that has grown the most!! on: December 13, 2023, 05:54:02 PM
Why don't you believe that Bitcoin can reach $44k at the moment and can even go up to $50k.
This has become a cycle that makes Bitcoin increasingly in demand, and many are starting to enter Bitcoin.

If you expect Bitcoin to drop below $40k at the moment, you need to wait for that and hope that support can be broken.
You might expect a cheaper price to be able to buy more.

Only you don't expect the Blackrock spot ETF to be tested immediately, that means your portfolio is still lacking much,
so you expect the market to continue to fall and fall.

Don't you buy it when the price of Bitcoin is below $20k?
Some people are debby downers and they do not say good things all that much, nor think about good possibilities in the future. That's fine, I do think that it could reach to 45k and not only that we could even finish at 50k before the year ends as well, not saying that's what will happen, but I am aware that it's possible and could happen. This is why I think we should consider the situation as great as it could potentially get, and we could end up with something that should be quite happy thoughts and be happy with what could happen.

I understand life is not that simple, but I do get that it should be something that will be happy thoughts which would give us a better idea to survive. If you keep thinking about how it could go down then you are not going to make any investments, and when you think it could go up then you could always make a lot more money, that's how you should approach it and how you should make the most out of your profits as well.
683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What do you think about Solana tokens? Are they worth it? on: December 13, 2023, 03:29:21 PM
Looks like you are not really asking about Solana or anything here but to advertise Bitget?
but given the fact you asked about Solana tokens for long term then I believe it is not best interest , like what
other said tokens are not good in long term instead mostly Pumping and dumping or some for waiting semi long
term.but it is rarely to happen because majority of tokens have their time to grow and when it started dumping?
it will stay there for long time sometimes even died after.
Maybe you are right about it because he highlight it first and then Bitget shilling like this aren't new in the forum but I always see them from time to time, either in the comments/reply made by the users, or it was posted by the OP of their new thread.

Since they also mentioned Solana or its tokens, then I think it is worth to talk about them here as well. Solana tokens are on the hype right now, and we all know the hypes, (they are not long-lasting). Maybe if we are only talking about Solana alone, then we can consider this for the long term, since it is not new and then it is still striving even though it received a lot of bashing to the public.
684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we see repeat of 2017 or new trend? on: December 13, 2023, 01:49:30 PM
experience every four year bitcoin and altcoin price always bull
because every four year bitcoin halvng and revenue from mining reduce so bitcoin price can incrase, about suply and demand
but i thnk still need pumper to can incraese price
Even not exactly four years. And then there is also a case that during the fourth year, the price didn't rise. What you said about the halving is true, but we can't prevent the people from selling when they feel like they should.

And this can still result for the price to decline. There are also people who won't buy for some reasons, which can make the price to become stable. The price is doing fine this year but all are expecting for more. We only need some patience for this because the year is already ending and there is another halving that will take place. That is one of its pumpers, other than us (normal individuals), the institutions and the whales.
685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone here started with a decent bankroll in sports? on: December 13, 2023, 12:11:41 PM
So if I have a $100 bankroll today it might not be in that amount next time could be high or lower. And I tend to stake higher in sport betting when I am well convinced of my data analysis gathered about the team am betting in favour of. Simply put, I don't misappropriate my bankroll so when I lose I don't lose badly like I do with winning.
However if you are staking higher than necessary when you think you have had a good analysis and timing, that could also disappoint you because gambling isn't so sure to favour the gambler but the house most times. Despite my bankroll or the best of analysis that I have done to win, I would still do a reasonable gambling not to over stake and get restive. If you over stake you increase worries which is not good for the health. There is no amount of convince that can guarantee 100% winning chance.
I think that a good analysis and timing is not always there. This is why there are bettors who make the most out of it by increasing their stake amount. Don't worry about them because maybe they are stronger than you to handle their emotions whenever they are losing huge. We know our capacity, so we should stick on what we are comfortable with.

We shouldn't copy those who bet big and win big but those guys can always copy us small bettors because like you said, the house always has the advantage. Betting small is good, as it helps us prevent the side effects of gambling from happening. If there is a 100% winning chance, there might be a match-fixing that will happen. But indeed that it's hard for us to be convinced, as there are lots of scams about it.
686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 13, 2023, 09:34:24 AM
Maximum time i have seen that the biggner Gambler win at their first gambling. Maybe its their luck fevour on them . That winning luck not work every time. That's the reason again they sometimes go for extra gamble. But I think they should believe the gambling strategy when they do gamble. After winning the get confident that the trap for beginners gambler.
Gambling is mainly about luck, so yeah, their luck favours them during their winning moment. And yeah, luck does not stay forever. This is why a gambler can lose sometimes and they can feel disappointed which will made them go back and see if their luck had come back this time. Again we can get lucky to predict it correctly but most of the times it's not the case that happens, because gambling owners are always setting the winning difficulty to high.

Like I said earlier/first, gambling is mainly about luck, so we shouldn't believe or rely on the strategy. And indeed it can only trap us, which is only an added waste of money, time and effort.
687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Aspect of Sports Betting or Casino Gambling Posed a Challenge for You? on: December 12, 2023, 02:45:41 PM
I found out through a trial and error approach because I had no intention of learning what sports betting or casino gambling was. I just registered because I was curious. I looked at the contents and chose the gambling game. And dice is a game I used to play for a while. I also don't look for videos on YouTube about how to play dice or what strategies can help me win. But finally, I found out by trying to place bets on dice, sports betting and slots. Everything provides a challenge for me because I rarely win so I spend more time playing gambling games.
You mean you found it unexpectedly? Because when you say through trial and error, then you really have an intention or strong desire to learn it. You might be one of the OG's in the crypto gambling scene, because Dice was your first game. That is because gambling providers are not a thing yet on the past and then almost all crypto betting sites only has one game on them, and that is again, Dice. What you did is right of not wasting your time on Youtube looking for Dice videos, as all of them are just click baits and composed of referral links.

There is really no definite way on how to win in Dice since the game is purely random. We all rarely win in gambling. And spending more time on it won't make any big differences, but it can actually only make you lose more.
688  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: No risk no reward on: December 12, 2023, 02:11:50 PM
I think that in bitcoin there is low risk and high return if you play long term. don't believe ? Try looking at the data on Google or CMC or wherever you trust on the internet. Bitcoin prices from 2009 - 2023, if you pull it straight, the graph always shows an increase. there is a correction but it will make another ath, a correction and another ath. So Bitcoin is very safe for the long term, at least for me, don't use this as financial advice. DYOR
Isn't the risk high as well in long-term? Because, we don't know what is coming ahead. And there is no way that only the positives are the ones that we will experience. There are those who say that BTC will increase more because it's already known, but what if not anymore? Because its price is already high? And then there are now many competitors.

The technology now is getting advanced. And what if someone will use those to mess with BTC? Price of BTC doesn't always increase but there are also down movements and stability sometimes due to its highly volatile nature. I may sound negative here but believe me, I'm not a BTC hater. You guys can still invest on it, but just always be vigilant.
689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Compounding altcoin profits in bull run? on: December 12, 2023, 01:24:31 PM
Just as you said there are some coin you will buy, if you don't exit the trade, you will run at loss. There was a coin I bought and it gave me about $10 profit. and after the coin percentage was high, I felt this will fall in no less time. So I decided to sell and wanted to involve buying another coin that was pumping if it will just pump a little. So I decided to watch how the coin is Making it move, after some minutes it fall by %100. I was shocked. and had it been I baugh it, I would have loss both my capital and my $10 profit. So we should just be careful with the kind of investment we make.
That is if the coin you buy is highly risky, but if not, you can try to be calm and HODL them a little bit because for sure they can always recover. I have seen lots of traders who are doing this. Just don't only set a stop loss so that your coins won't be liquidated automatically once the price drops equivalent to the amount that you have set.

Entering a moving a train is risky, so you shouldn't be buying a coin that is already pumping because there is a big chance that the pump will stop and turned into a dump, as those old investors of that coins is already selling or someone is only manipulating it if it's a high-risk coin. When you are profiting, you should pull out of most it together with your capital. That way you won't feel like a total loser, just in case you got a bad trade.
690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Samoyedcoin? on: December 12, 2023, 03:06:41 AM
Usually, if a meme coin rises very quickly, it must be fomo. where Solona always makes moves at the beginning to turn the crypto market into a bullrun with his coin memes,
I think it's worth it for short-term trading, but remember you have to remain alert to release this coin if it experiences a decline.
Not FOMO but hype. And people are the ones who will FOMO on it. It was BTC is the one that creates a bull run, (not Solana) but I know that Solana is being hyped right now. It still has nothing to do with the increase in the market because they are already rising even before.

Meme coins are always meme coins, and it doesn't matter if where they come from. So, we shouldn't dare touching them. Don't say that you will only trade it for the short-term because people behind it are wise enough, where you can't even eject at the right time. It will be better if people will just invest on Solana, even if it also had some anomalies because it's too strong to withstand it.
691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it advisable to invest in JITO (JTO)? on: December 12, 2023, 02:12:21 AM
Are you speculating on second airdrop because first has already happened that too worth hefty amounts. I'd not suggest to buy it if you were to, cause I feel there is huge fomo right now.
And even if they won't have a second airdrop, we are still going to profit from investing on their coin alone due to the FOMO. If the price of the coin is $1, then it might be considered overpriced because it is only just a new coin but I don't know its starting value. Maybe it is also lower than that?

And it only started to rise because they are slowly gaining a popularity. We can still disregard the price tag because the value could grow more, making us recover our capital and earn even more. The OP already gave some description about this project and it was said to be the first MEV-powered stake pool. So it can be more than just a hype.
692  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Whas this a smart move or stupid move? on: December 11, 2023, 10:21:41 AM
Bonk is behaving impressive nowadays and investing in the coin will give a trader more benefits. But suggesting a trader to only buy the bonk if he has the money extra means if he is not going to buy any other coin with that money, then he should go for the bonk. Because it can also fall and we have seen in the previous bear market that how a coin falls and how much he will be in the coming days, we should also look for it.
That was last time but now not anymore. Can't you see that the OP is already losing? The price is down now but it doesn't mean it's a good chance to try it. Like every other meme coins, a dip in the price is only the start of something worse. It's not benefit is the one that traders are going to get here but it was headache.

The second thing that you said looks confusing but it only implies one thing. No experience crypto users are going to do that or to suggest such meme coin like Bonk to their fellow people, even though they will only use extra money. That is how unworthy the meme coins are. Cryptos are known to be unpredictable but there are exceptions like if the coin is really bad or really good.
693  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help me to calculate my trading profit on: December 11, 2023, 08:44:50 AM
Experience is key in every sector in life, brother if you really want something from me, I would advice you too calculate your lose first before you calculate your profit, in other ways trade with what you can afford to lose, so that your emotions can be in check, secondly the market is very hostile to people that trades with emotions, that's why am telling you that you should  be more concerned about your losses before you calculate your profit, thank you.
This is a common problem. People are only thinking about how can they be wealthy but they disregard the obstacles. Being wealthy isn't easy but it's a rough road. So if you won't prepare about that, you will get shocked and you will fail easily on your journey. This was still an experience (a negative one) and it's up to them if they will use it to try again and improve their selves.

If we trade modestly our emotions are stable and we are not concerned of checking it but if it was when we trade recklessly is the one that can give us a curiosity and a feeling of worry, so we will end up checking it, which is great than just ignoring it because it can lead for us to crash soon.
694  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: User protection funds, Should more cex adopt this culture? on: December 10, 2023, 05:25:54 AM
Is Binance's SAFU the same with this protection fund of Bitget? Yes, it could just be a shill to make it look good but here's my tea on this one.

It's not going to change the fact that CEX remains as a CEX even with these features. As long as they're not providing its customers the custody to own over the coins they deposit, whether there are insurances or protection funds, nothing will change that fact.

It might be a good feature but do you think that it's good to rely on it because they have that sort of protection? The best protection is you alone to hold that key of your funds.
User protection fund is good, it at least gives their customers some assurance that their funs is secured, no matter what happens. Assurances like this are necessitated by the fact that people are loosing confidence in exchanges, even the well established ones, due to obvious observations that have been happening lately.

Truth remains that even with these features, as you've observed, as long as their customers do not have control over their coins in the exchanges, then there's no full assurance, in the case of the exchange shutting down.
This is the answer of the CEX to the famous phrase: "Not your keys not your coins", that is always being reminded to all of the crypto users. I think CEX are already annoyed with that because they think they are mainly the ones who being are targeted for that. But other than that, it is a must do, also because of the reason that you have said earlier or to the hacking, scamming, and the sueing of the regulators.

For it to be more effective or to give us more assurance, maybe the exchange should prepare a kind of legal document that we will be signed. I think it's also possible that the key to the lock funds will be hold by multiple trusted people. That should lessen the chance for a single people to ran away with it.
695  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I still hold the investment or sell it? on: December 09, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
The reason behind selling of bitcoin is if serious then selling of bitcoins is not a big issue because we are investing amount for only to use it when we need it. It totally depends on an investors thoughts if he find it difficult to hold bitcoin then he cannot hold longer therefore in such circumstances avoid further loss and sell if you have profit.

The main reason of Bitcoin's investment is to collect our money as well as extra amount in the form of reward so if we have a chance to find this condition then there is no loss but is happiness for you as you can easily take benefit from bitcoin. If someone is impatience then he should hold bitcoin till the duration at which he can at least earn some amount as a consequence of his investment.
That's the thing I do not understand by many people when they try to avoid selling it at all costs. My father is that kind of man, I understand saving and investing are important and OF COURSE you would rather not cash out, that's true and that's understandable. However, if something serious happens, then you should consider it, like if you need to have a surgery and you need to cash out 3 thousand dollars for it, if you try to avoid that, like find some sleazy doctor at corner alley type of place to pay 300 to do it, that would hurt you a lot more, or if you try to find the money some other way, like even make a debt, so you pay interest without need.

We save, because we fear we may need the money someday, and when that some day comes, we fear we are going to lose our money. Just realize that you need to spend that money because you saved it exactly for these days, that's the most important thing in life and you should be able to do that when you have the chance.
696  Economy / Speculation / Re: Whats your thought on: December 09, 2023, 01:32:32 PM
To sum it up, we have a positive sentiment regarding Bitcoin now and this will linger for only God knows when. According to my experience with the asset in particular, there are times it falls and there are times it rises, and in practice, it always locks a very good and sizable amount of the price below it every 4 years during its major bullish season. This is what is causing most of the excitement we see now because if you limit it to the news and big companies buying Bitcoin alone, are they not buying it before?
That is also quite true in what you said based on existing experience, because I also quite believe in the main bullish season after every four years and this is also very visible from the reality in the market. Now there are indeed many people who are happy with the improving conditions which can be considered bullish at this time because I personally am also quite happy to see this happen at the end of the year so the hope of seeing more recovery in the market will soon become a reality.
That "belief" is becoming more and more like data each halving. Many people "believe" that we are going to have ATH about within one year of the halving, that means by 2025 spring or so we are going to see above 68k, or before that date of course, that's also possible. This is just a "belief" at the moment, but when enough people believe something like that will be true, it becomes a bit more like data instead of just a belief in people.

Why does it become like data, well when you get a huge group of people who believe that it will go up like that, then it is obvious that you are also talking about a lot of people who are willing to spend their money to buy, if you think it would go up, why wouldn't you buy right now, and when enough people spend enough money like that because they believe it will go up, that makes the price go up, and when the price goes up, suddenly they were right about thinking that it will go up, they made it go up by thinking it may go up.
697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Finally I did it (I am happy to join). on: December 09, 2023, 01:08:05 PM
Congratulation your first bitcoin purchase and hope you can be long term investor with diamond hands  Grin, I am so excited with first bitcoin purchase you invested huge amount 0.033 BTC estimation values $1446 current bitcoin price right now. You have good mindset when investing in bitcoin without care current bitcoin on good trend but keep purchasing and don't  limit your self for another purchase in the future. You can accumulate later when bitcoin have little drop price but depend on your financial condition if ability purchasing huge amount is not problem but don't press your self have to invest bitcoin with getting loan or borrowing.

Enjoy your first bitcoin purchase and don't miss any update exactly when bitcoin have good or bad news for your planning in the future with second purchasing of bitcoin.
That is true, a new person joining this type of stuff is great and that should be something that would benefit everyone but that doesn't mean that we can't really end up with a greater return all that easy, so when someone manages to achieve something like that it should be something that would be all quite important in the end, we should definitely consider these type of increases in people who are investing into bitcoin as a great sign, it proves that the world is considering the situation all that much better and definitely something that would benefit everyone without a doubt.

However, that doesn't mean that you are going to end up with a return that should be big right away, it may take some time to get a bigger return like what you expect, so all these new people should be aware of that. I do fill with joy seeing all these newcomers, I have been here for quite some time, and seen many join after me and every single one of them made me super happy.
698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING THEIR PRIVACY SERIOUSLY. on: December 09, 2023, 11:28:22 AM
if you do want to preserve your privacy, better not use these social media platforms or not share any of vital personal transactions. in most cases, it is the user himself subjecting himself to potential threats of scamming and the likes.
and they will only be cautious once they have been a victim of online fraud.
I dont think so because IMO in the end it depends on our intentions and purpose of playing social media because not everyone who plays social media does not mean to show themselves and eliminate their anonymity that has been maintained before.
It's just that I still feel it's about how we behave because after all, things like this are the attitudes and traits we have. If in the end we like to make ourselves seem glamorous or show the assets we have even though they don't play social media, there must be another situation that makes them show off that they are part of a bitcoin investor with a large portfolio.
I have encountered quite a few people I know like this where they don't even hesitate to show themselves and the portfolios they have just to attract someone's interest to look at them.
I feel like the biggest usage is for that reason, doesn't mean "all" does that, but it's usually that reason and that's the most important part. You may not use it that way, but 99% of the world uses it that way and that means we d olive in a world where privacy is not that much cared anymore. Like I always say, if your privacy doesn't worth anything to you, then others breaching it shouldn't be a problem for you.

Anyone who willingly puts a selfie or group photo at instagram, can't be bothered when they get a spam mail, one is much more privacy oriented then the other, your mail is nothing you are giving away your face for free. This doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want with it, it just means that we are talking about a situation that would be just willing by the people and that's much more important. I get that some people can't understand why others are so freely giving their privacy away, but you also have to see that as the world we live in.
699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BTC is effecting Market? on: December 09, 2023, 09:28:49 AM
For the short term, I believe not yet, look at the market right now, Bitcoin is owning, pumping hard but altcoins? Not at all, they even dump at the current price of Bitcoin.
But for me, in long term especially if Bitcoin price will take a rest and do sideways, I am hoping altcoins will also do their own moves.
Maybe the effect is still building up? Because it's been only a while since BTC pumped up like this. But it's also possible that the rise of BTC have caused an altcoin and other markets to drop, because the interest of the people on them have shifted in BTC. It can also be for a while, for some reasons, as we know that we are seeing some positive news lately in BTC, so maybe they think investing in BTC now is a wise move to score a quick and easy profit.

Altcoins are still great in number. Same goes on other markets, so I think there are still some of them who are not following the trend. But anyways, if BTC declines, the same reasons above can/might also be applied.
700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: coin memes don't have a project? Is it worth buying for the long term? on: December 09, 2023, 05:45:52 AM
If you are asking whether meme coins are worth buying for the long term, of course they are not, and it is not recommended to buy meme coins for the long term. Meme coins are only entertainment coins, of course entertainment can also be profitable if you take advantage of the moment, I personally bought meme coins to make short-term profits but with not a lot of money of course.

In my opinion, Pepe is good because Pepe's circulation supply has run out. The total supply is less than Shiba. The market capital is still low. CMC's ranking is still in the 90s. So the explosive potential could be much bigger than Doge or Shib. Personally, apart from Shib, Pepe is targeting accumulation installments in preparation for the 2024 bull run.
Entertainment apparently worths some money, did not expected that to be fair but that is what the market is saying. The reality is that if we take doge as an example, people are not saying "I will invest into doge and definitely will make a lot of money from it", they are saying "I am going to invest into doge because it is so much fun, and if I make a profit with it then that's even better", which is understandable, they want to have fun while investing, same logic was done with GME at stocks world and that was definitely fun, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with right approach each time, sometimes you want to have fun and will lose all your money, that is not really a good thing at all.

People should look for profit first, fun second when they are investing but not everyone is doing the same thing, so we are not going to really end up with something that should be all that crazy, it will just be something that should be profitable if they are right.
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