I agree that many people here should try that new tactic and Buy Dash/Eth now for ICN ^^, what can go wrong ?
Especially they should go for dash if coin went 10x in las,t months it can go 10x in next.

Don't misinform people. If you own ETH adress with priv key you can always send to yourself any token even ERC20.
If you play with exchange that mean you have to follow their rules.
So on Kraken you have to create ICN deposit adress separate for every transaction in.
Sometimes all people have same adress and you have to deposit to exchange using special message like with XMR.
You should always check rules for deposits.

especially when you look at history and every BTC pump we have new fresh newcomers to party, next time can be new coin that doesn't exist today.
Last time LTC got 1bilon market cap Dash need +40% to do that i cross finger for them to achieve it but how it end, we all know.
Newbies will see over few years.

hahaha are you sure my angel :
check this out ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp6DaMiORBU&t=1s

"Bitcoin has Been Infiltrated" - she will get Oscar price for this actress play she is so scary : )

I bet that Dash will be NO GO zone for next 2-4 years after that pump.
Roger was nice pumping and promoting Dash at some point he will dump on his believers or master node users will do.
To last LTC market cap is still 300m$ so Dash have room to grow guys but there is getting hot.

Do we will see Dash 2 billion market cap ?

 
BTC core devs just proving that BTCu is bugged and untested have vulnerabilities that is all.
No matter who attack effects matter, that is not updated client core client with few thousand lines of code, and BTCu cannot deny that.
There is many at stake and best Devs will win as I see.
I bet that new bugs in BTCu doesn’t even surprise anyone now.
Since problem is with BTCu not core/segwit BTC should not be even touch in price because of that.


At some point cost of creating node and risk price fall more than -9% will kill that business. Nothing goes forever up.
Once Dash goes wild bear market after pump from 5$ to almost 100-200$ in so short time correction will be painful and long.
Then you realize that buying overpriced stock that was traded 2-5$ few months ago is not best deal in city.

Man i was talking 1000x that bank gives for "free":
-chargebacks
-phonepayments
-wireless CC , debitcards
-loans
-user don't lose cash making transactions using BTC you lose allways like %3 on exchange
That cost you privacy but look who cares look  how many people use facebook, twitter, youtube, google

PS: With PayPal you could send money to email for years…

With crypto you can do some things that allow you bypass government restrictions:
-pay illegal stuff
-tax dogging
-give people money and they don't pay income tax (in my country they should pay like 22% tax)
-give money to WikiLeaks ( try do it by Gmail and not be flagged as criminal)
-avoid capital control
-BTC payments are UNSTOPABE
-with BTC you hold money and NOONE CAN take them from you even government (fiat – you have inflation, Police can freeze your account )
-crypto give you a freedom of work without taxation ( like forum signatures eg. )
-with crypto you can play illegal gambling and bypass country restriction
-with crypto you can build advanced systems ruled by digital contracts

Crypto is freedom that you are loosing with all centralized and data mined services.

BTC/Nem  won't be fiat competitor in terms of daily currency IMO, this is just not good deal,
Unless you leave in Venezuela

Dash is mix of POW/POS now. POS part in masternode part with voting and stuff like that.


NEM have fixed supply in order NEM masternodes to shine NEM have to be wide used then fees will cover operation costs and this is fair, you want earn you need make NEM big and widely used. While Dash want be currency then want be more like system/data transfer.

To be honest masternodes have some myths you need to know that at some point masternods with 9% ROI is BS.
Try today be a sucker and buy for your "BTC" "NEM" Dash masternode : ) . Once those masternodes will stop increasing and will , they will pay less an less over time if price wont rise with nodes all system collapse and you will see not dumpig like 1 Dash but with 1000 Dash at once.For me price of dash is hyped a lot but time will come to rebalance it/correction like it was with NEM and jump to 2800 sat .


Nem is flexible if will be widely used you will get allways NEM from transactions, but it need to be used.
This is POI so you have to USE your nem to have bigger POI ... More you use NEM more you earn.

Good luck for all Dash users.

And this is very good that will teach BTC devs / miners that their fight will lead to BTC collapse in some terms they have to feel in pockets against alts that they fucked up, and then needed changes will come.
In sport there is allways have good competition IMO here to.

Dash dev have for him self from istamine like 11% of all DRK/Dash
NEM devs controls Devfund but with multi signatures so this is not in hand of one guy.
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Dash have inflation while NEM have fixed supply.
NEM masternodes get NEM from masternode fund that is aim to work over 3years then network should support master nodes itself.
Dash have masternodes that will all time generate DASH.
Dssh mix coins to get privacy NEM doesnt try to do it NEM aims into blockchaintechnology more than dark market.
Dash want to be daily currency while NEM is aiming to be interesting blockchain with easy API for companies/developers.
Dash is heavily pumped right now becose many big big bitcoiner hooped on Dash while NEM rise more slowly.
Dash have its main dev king Evan while Nem have few core devs that controls NEM dev fund.
Dash with tax peole for development NEM taxed at begining and creatind some special fund for that.
Dash to mine or own supernode you have to use your prive key while in NEM have special "remote" key - NEM wins
In sumary :
Dash is aiming into mass usage coin daily currency while NEM is aim to be business blockchain those are 2 different directions.
Dash masternode will last forever and pay Dash while NEM masternode to live need NEM to be used widely.
Nem is less hyped than Dash, Nem devs don't give a fuck to marketing right now
Nem at point of creation had some rules , was annouced and realease while Dash have shady instamine part.

If you look for tech NEM is better , if you look for hype and incoming pumps Dash is way to go IMO, at least before Dash evolution.

PS: I like NEM more than DASH just because devs were fair from day 0 they didn't do any shit to community, while Dash to often changes rules.


If BTC Devs will go in sidechain solution they wil can move allso many tx/s.
They don't want put to much on main chain becouse it have already 100GB.
IF you will have 1000tx/s in any blockchain it will lead to block size like 100GB in few weeks and 1 big data center needed for IT.

Chargeback is good for buyers for protection, seller want from u to use Dash. In customer world i don't believe that Dash can is better option than Amazon. Like centralized systems Paypal Amazon eBay are able to make changes very fast be adaptive more customer service oriented like ext special deals, free delivery. Paypal if needed can lower fees if they will have to. If you really think that you can win with top companies spending on development millions of $ in specific sectors you live in delusion. I saw many time stuff like that openbazar,dogemarket(ebay for Doge) i just don't take that shit seriously. You know where people will always loose money ? At point whre they have to exchange Dash to fiat because companies have to run business on fiat system so average price on Dashmarket will allways have like 5% premium over that one form Amazon (and amazon often have free delivery)

BTC and high price of transaction is something that we have to deal with and i want see some solution about it.
Looks like ligthing have to be some kind solution to adress that problem.
If people look for coin with lowest fees they should go for Doge they have always 1 Doge fee.

Bitcoin have to make changes that is sure, rising Dash prices will at some point scary Bitcoiners and move them to make changes.
Once BTC will make changes capital will flow back to BTC.

We will see how it will played around.
I don't want making predictions but LTC once had also one billion market cap, Dash can go like 2-4 billion before implosion who knows today we have much more free money printed in system. I have download DASH and i can say that it synched fast but it was just 2,5GB blockchain to download today same time if you want go fo bitcoin it will take 100GB disk space, because Bitcoin was very wide used.

DRK/Dash is rising because people are bored of BTC and that blocksize drama IMO and look for some solutions.
Some well-known people from BTC community advocate for Dash like Roger Ver and he moved many bitcoiners with him to Dash and invest.
Dash rise is very good for BTC because it put pressure on it to do something like Segwit>Lighting or BTCu.
I would be even glad seeing DASH coming into 2 bilion market cap to kick some BTC people asses and change stuff nothing that hurts so much like wallet . From my perspective Dash is making favor BTC.

IMO all thing tha want do ETH on their blockchain will couse nice mess and will reqire a lot of storage.
Today people have problems with 1MB block and 100GB blockchain. Imagine then ETH with 10MB 20MB blocks in 10 years people will need about  1TB-20TB to keep that blockchain.
Etherum price rise is killing stuff for projects becouse Ethereum is fuel, if fuel is to expensive people don't use that chain

Eth can go 10x and boom that is all

the longer it takes up the new people have relatively good time to join in

depends on timing bro today BTC transaction can stuck for hours while Doge goes very smoothly

BTC need improve some shit and will be ok - today some alts are working better but those don't use 300 000tx/day but like 30 000/60 000 max for ETH while in ETH those trasactions are from daps it doesn't really transfer any real value mostly.

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look at that dump eaten :

14   Iconomi Iconomi   $27,732,381   $0.318763   87,000,000 ICN *   $714,908   

2.1m ICN traded and price is solid like rock someone is acumulating

you know most of all altcoins are used for PURE speculation.
Eth is trying making some system that will use ETH as fuel - OK it can work
Dash have masternodes (some special kind circle jerck where all people have to buy 1000coins to jin club) since price ahs rissen a lot.
But since Etherum is a fuel then fuel can not be to expensive because people we will stop riding "eth" vehicles
Doge they tried charity makes some shops but at end it looks that 80 000reddit community doesn't work and this is going nowhere.
Doge was trying mass adoption but all failed (i have sold few games for DOGE )
i completely  don't get people that are thinking that dash will be currency for masses when even Doge bored people.

Crypto and cyrrency for masses oh come on, you allways pay 3% premium to exchange crypto>fiat , from economical  view that have no sense, you will always pay more crypto than with fiat when price is constant

yes I have forgotten about that but Stratis was project that got 800BTC in total when BTC was at 600-800$ so initial investment there was like 500k market cap. Such market cap can be easy manipulated or moved up by investors who missed it out. I was more referring to projects with higher market caps where is more people involved like Lisk Waves SingularDTV.
If you look at lets say stratis top at 14k sat and today 8k it is like -40% while ICONOMI have -50% from its peak.

Abut that December start it could be disaster IMO because of security and testing.
I agree they fucked up with ICNX start trading in December - I was pissed off I must say
But once I have slept with that I realized that starting such thing in a month after ICO without hackerproof tests could lead to disaster.


So far those coins were rising so having them in index give a lot profits to ICNX holders.
After rebalancing correction will be less painful for ICNX token holders.
And this is + of having ICNX than solo those coins.
ICNX index was  desingned to consider from top currencies so I don't see anything wrong here.

man go to :
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://coinmarketcap.com/

and look at last BTC pump like 4 DEC 2014
https://web.archive.org/web/20131204165059/http://coinmarketcap.com/

and what can history teach you ?

Bitcoin drives people attencion to crypto coins. Once people see that for BTC may be to late they rush into alts.
for bigger profits alts like allways:
- faster blocks
- next BTC
- mass adoption (Bitcoin to slow)
- we will be more decentralized

What history teach you after that party ?
How many coins do you know/see today ?
Pumpers skipped Doge/LTC and went for "fresh blood"

Sadly after that party you will have ICOs part
https://web.archive.org/web/20140214173259/http://coinmarketcap.com/
2 months later ripple/mastrcoin come and get high market cap
and old coin were sliding down till today LTC DOGE PPC NXT
so get your lesson and better get aut of alt market on time.
(last time all those coinswante kick out BTC out of road Do you see similarities today ?
Maybe alts will go higher now i don't know but once they are falling they are falling for good