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[btctube]

"In fact?"  Really?  It's been more than 2 years since your post.  You don't get to claim as factual vaporware that is years overdue.

Where is the Masternode blinding and IP obfuscation that Evan was supposedly working on for the last 28 months?

Since Evan's supposed "solution" is still (in March 2017) "waiting to be implemented" we must conclude most of the issues fluffy brought up are still outstanding and unresolved.

Not sure what "the market" has to do with security issues.  Does a price spike somehow magically fix Dash's security issues even without Masternode blinding and IP obfuscation?

Or does a price spike compound Dash's security issues because of the greater incentive for attackers to exploit those issues?   

Monero is losing the battle icebreaker, take it and let the price speaks for itself. I've just sent Dash transaction to an exchange and was pretty quick.  You'd be left behind Spoetnik already jumped in and supported DASH. Forget about glory or whatever you may call it, its winning that matters lol

[AzzAz]

Monero is losing the battle icebreaker, take it and let the price speaks for itself. I've just sent Dash transaction to an exchange and was pretty quick.  You'd be left behind Spoetnik already jumped in and supported DASH. Forget about glory or whatever you may call it, its winning that matters lol

Guys, his only purpose is to mention HERE: Monero, Scam, Instamine, ponzi, etc.
That first for marketing purpose because only here they can do it, their tread is sad;
 and second: " hundred times repeated lie becomes truth! "

[maxpowerzz92]

Another excellent article regarding the instamine.  I like this quote from the author:

If Dash achieves infrastructure that comes easy for its users in the long run, whether someone owns a lot of the supply or not, it will succeed, unless competition is able to beat Dash at what it’s doing – and in my opinion this is unlikely (Monero, as an example, while addressing privacy is very one-dimensional while Dash has expanded on its features in addition to privacy).

As a note about ideas and winners: usually people early in ideas win the most, so someone who was an early adopter of Dash or bitcoin had the most to win. This is just as true for people in industries, such as the tech industry. When businesses demanded CAT5 wire, the people with those skills received the biggest payouts for those skills. This did not make CAT5 a ponzi scheme, but rather the early adopter of a successful idea will be the biggest winner. Again this is how reality works.

http://fintekneeks.com/my-view-dashs-pre-mine-is-not-a-problem/

[dafdaf]

Take your wife out and go for a trip or something...

Icebreaker can't possibly have a wife. It's impossible. You cannot troll Dash all year long here, even on Christmas day, and have a wife.

[TanteStefana2]

What was the reason (news) that dash went so high?

3 years of development, stable trading and high marketcap ranking got priced in.

The triggers for the pricing in were:

 • Dash's next generation version is on the horizon this year
 • Successful hardfork with no hiccups was completed
 • Trading T/A: the Dash/BTC market reached a long term crossover of moving averages which indicated the onset of a multi-month bull market

This is NOT trading advice, just my view point:

I want to add that "important" people are starting to recognize Dash as being for real, and having the best vision for the future, the proper incentives and the ability to fund itself, thus ensuring it's future. These people are either people with money to invest, people who have built up the Bitcoin infrastructure only to see their work stagnate, but will be revitalized with Dash, new people from outside the cryptosphere who have no loyalty to Bitcoin, but have recently become interested in the space, researched, and found Dash to be the one and only promising currency for the future.

Dash has been the best project since the beginning, but has proven itself over and over, and grown and become .... well, in my opinion, it's unstoppable.

Please don't trade based on my opinion.  I am a Dash groupie, a cheerleader.  Do your own research!

And LOL to what ^^^ dafdaf ^^^ said, so true!  Wish we could have "likes" and "thumbs up" on this forum!!! 

[dishwara]

Lol the first dash clones ^^

[Macno]

For those asking about the price increase:

I found DASH or rather DRK back then in April/May 2014 when the "Instamine" had already happened. I read through the thread and concluded that the community was by and large fine with the way things had been resolved.
Since then I've followed the Evolution towards Evolution as my little BTC Clusterfuck Hedge and from an investor's perspective, there is simply no match to DASH.
It is the only real explicit competitor to Bitcoin (or Litecoin, who could but does not want to compete) and for every single point that worries me about Bitcoin, they have at least a plan to solve it.
Because of the technical genius of some of the Monero Devs, those guys are well respected among Bitcoiners and they managed to spread the "Instamine+MasternodePonzi+BadPrivacyMeme", so many long time Bitcoiners are pretty prejudiced against DASH, plus there always has been suspicious short selling activity at "surprising" moments (i.e. it really looked like supression).

But newly interested sober crypto investors don't give a fuck about Forum FUD. And they have way more money than the Forum Trolls.
They are for instance at Anarchapulco and witness live Amanda B. Johnson and Roger Ver mentioning DASH. Then they look at Bitcoin, pricey, slow, intransparent governance with arrogant pricks as Core Devs etc...

It is pretty obvious why the price is rising. And the Masternode count does not indicate any dumping. Masternodes are the main difference between DASH and even Bitcoin, from a market perspective. Saving / hoarding / holding is rewarded. You don't just dump a Masternode once you have it.

[iCEBREAKER]

I'm involved in a discussion over on another thread where a Monero guy is possiting that Darkcoin is "Architecturally Flawed" due to the masternode architecture.

I've already posted quite a long response and he has come back with a whole load of cryptographic waffle which I haven't got time right now to respond to.

Could someone who knows what they're talking about have a look at this......

1. We don't even need an attacker with the NSA's scope. Law enforcement like the FBI can easily get the legal right to wiretap masternodes. Many of these masternodes run on virtualised machines, which means the hosting provider can snoop the OS status and memory. Virtually all of them could be under the purview of LEA, and thus long-term monitoring would be invisible.

2. Over and above that, there's massive incentive for masternode operators to make extra money by selling access to their logs. Not every operator is a rational actor, not every operator is a libertarian.

3. As long as operators earn based on what they process there will be an incentive for masternode operators to attack each other. This is a classic case of Prisoner's Dilemma.

The most concerning is 3, as there really is little that can be done to fix that. You can't evenly split rewards, as then there's no longer an incentive for a masternode to be honest (not that there's much incentive for that right now). When this has been mentioned before the knee-jerk reaction is "they'll never do that!" However, one need only take a look at how Bitcoin mining pools operate to see that this is a very real problem. Two references that make for good reading are: Ittay Eyal's "The Miner's Dilemma", and the paper "When Bitcoin Mining Pools Run Dry" by Aron Laszka et. al. This is, of course, quite a well-known issue amongst those in the know: 1, 2, 3

most of the issues fluffy brings up are known and in fact already have a solution waiting to be implemented.

the new masternode blinding thing evan is working on along with ip obfuscation takes care of most of the issues he drones on about.

fluffypony can ramble on until he is blue in the face but the market has spoken and the debate is all but settled, instantX will be the final nail in the coffin.

"In fact?"  Really?  It's been more than 2 years since your post.  You don't get to claim as factual vaporware that is years overdue.

Where is the Masternode blinding and IP obfuscation that Evan was supposedly working on for the last 28 months?

Since Evan's supposed "solution" is still (in March 2017) "waiting to be implemented" we must conclude most of the issues fluffy brought up are still outstanding and unresolved.

Not sure what "the market" has to do with security issues.  Does a price spike somehow magically fix Dash's security issues even without Masternode blinding and IP obfuscation?

Or does a price spike compound Dash's security issues because of the greater incentive for attackers to exploit those issues?   

Monero is losing the battle icebreaker, take it and let the price speaks for itself. I've just sent Dash transaction to an exchange and was pretty quick.  You'd be left behind Spoetnik already jumped in and supported DASH. Forget about glory or whatever you may call it, its winning that matters lol

"The price speaks for itself" but it has nothing to do with security issues.  "The price" does not somehow magically fix the Dash security issues resuling from the 2+ year long delay of Masternode blinding and IP obfuscation.

[ddink7]

It is pretty obvious why the price is rising. And the Masternode count does not indicate any dumping. Masternodes are the main difference between DASH and even Bitcoin, from a market perspective. Saving / hoarding / holding is rewarded. You don't just dump a Masternode once you have it.

This is very important. Friday, when the price was sub-$50 (.042 BTC/DASH), we had 4164 MNs. Today, with a price that's 33% higher ($77 or .063 BTC/DASH), there are 4151 MNs. The price increased by a third and only 13 MNs (at most) sold. In fact, probably half of those simply moved into the lending market on Poloniex and Bitfinex.

Think for a minute about what that means: at least 99.7% of the people who owned a masternode on Friday believe that DASH is still undervalued, even at a price of $77 per coin.

[ddink7]

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

[qwizzie]

This is pretty much how a masternode can be seen :



Treat her well and she will give birth to some beautifull golden Dash.

[Macno]

It is rather a "Eierlegende Wollmilchsau". An egg laying Pig which grows lamb whool and gives milk (yes, even Germans need TWO words for that).



https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eierlegende_Wollmilchsau

[qwizzie]

I dont know why but i feel a sudden urge to buy a Volkswagen 

[Macno]

I dont know why but i feel a sudden urge to buy a Volkswagen 

And I am thinking of Xzibit pimping it into a Dashmobile. 

[qwizzie]

Here we go again... 0.0655

[XbladeX]

For those asking about the price increase:
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It is pretty obvious why the price is rising. And the Masternode count does not indicate any dumping. Masternodes are the main difference between DASH and even Bitcoin, from a market perspective. Saving / hoarding / holding is rewarded. You don't just dump a Masternode once you have it.

We will see how it will played around.
I don't want making predictions but LTC once had also one billion market cap, Dash can go like 2-4 billion before implosion who knows today we have much more free money printed in system. I have download DASH and i can say that it synched fast but it was just 2,5GB blockchain to download today same time if you want go fo bitcoin it will take 100GB disk space, because Bitcoin was very wide used.

DRK/Dash is rising because people are bored of BTC and that blocksize drama IMO and look for some solutions.
Some well-known people from BTC community advocate for Dash like Roger Ver and he moved many bitcoiners with him to Dash and invest.
Dash rise is very good for BTC because it put pressure on it to do something like Segwit>Lighting or BTCu.
I would be even glad seeing DASH coming into 2 bilion market cap to kick some BTC people asses and change stuff nothing that hurts so much like wallet . From my perspective Dash is making favor BTC.

[Macno]

For those asking about the price increase:
****
It is pretty obvious why the price is rising. And the Masternode count does not indicate any dumping. Masternodes are the main difference between DASH and even Bitcoin, from a market perspective. Saving / hoarding / holding is rewarded. You don't just dump a Masternode once you have it.

We will see how it will played around.
I don't want making predictions but LTC once had also one billion market cap, Dash can go like 2-4 billion before implosion who knows today we have much more free money printed in system. I have download DASH and i can say that it synched fast but it was just 2,5GB blockchain to download today same time if you want go fo bitcoin it will take 100GB disk space, because Bitcoin was very wide used.

DRK/Dash is rising because people are bored of BTC and that blocksize drama IMO and look for some solutions.
Some well-known people from BTC community advocate for Dash like Roger Ver and he moved many bitcoiners with him to Dash and invest.
Dash rise is very good for BTC because it put pressure on it to do something like Segwit>Lighting or BTCu.
I would be even glad seeing DASH coming into 2 bilion market cap to kick some BTC people asses and change stuff nothing that hurts so much like wallet . From my perspective Dash is making favor BTC.

I totally agree. I don't mind Bitcoin being at 50 Billion when Dash hits 20 ;-) Or the other way round...

[cardiganss]

Here we go again... 0.0655

Another pump incoming! I bet DASH will reach 0.1 in the next future!

[Jumanji7]

How many dash is needed to run a masternode and what is the ROI I can receive from running a masternode?

[electronicash]

$80+ it is! there really is no stopping this time. its the future, you could either be left behind or drown with your dream of becoming rich through crypto.  i wouldn't mind if ICEBREAKER will say he had bought few which causes the spike again, he won't even need to say anything at all. not a smiley, not a warning but lip-shut.  

How many dash is needed to run a masternode and what is the ROI I can receive from running a masternode?

1000 dash