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701  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: High Ambient Temps? on: April 28, 2013, 06:51:16 AM
I was mining in an commercial office last year (cubicle style). I had to close the door to the room and ambient temps went over 90F on most days.  One day it hit 123F in that room - was painful to walk in there.  Needless to say one of the newer 6950s I had died after just 3 months.
702  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: PSA: Malta 7990s are NOT suitable for mining! on: April 28, 2013, 06:48:28 AM
My 7970s at 901 MHz core / 1512 MHz RAM / 937 mV core pull about 170w AC (140w DC) per card while getting 630 KH/s.  This is without touching the power limiter.  I seriously doubt Malta will have a problem mining litecoins.  The 2x 8-pins themselves can give enough power to run the card at low clocks/volts, let alone the PCI-e slot.  The reference 7970 I have, by the way, runs at <60C load next a bunch of 6950s that run at 85C load.  Tahiti is insanely energy efficient when it comes to scrypt.


Eh aren't you mining in Siberia though?

Those temps look good but every single one of my cards goes over 80C when doing scrypt, even when undervolting the core.
703  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 6750s cannot get above 100. on: April 28, 2013, 06:21:24 AM
It's not enough to just uninstall the old drivers.  You need to do a clean wipe or even reinstall of windows if you're not sure how to get the 2.5 SDK in there.
704  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 2nd GPU Not Showing Guiminer on: April 28, 2013, 06:19:34 AM
Any reason you don't sell both cards and try to pick up a cheap used 5770 or 6770?  It would double your hash and use 1/2 the power.
705  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: So many ASIC's Miner join, GPU mining will die on: April 28, 2013, 05:58:36 AM
you do realize that for people with free electricity, gpu mining will always be profitable, right?

That's not true.  If I buy a 7970 3 months from now and mine BTC, even with my free electricity I would probably lose more resale value in the card then I would be able to generate in BTC value. Only with the recent BTC price run has GPU mining stayed alive, otherwise everybody would be on a different coin.

Only the idiots who mine at a loss would mine BTC rather than just buy it for cheaper than electricity costs.
706  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: When will Butterfly Labs (BFL) run out of money? on: April 28, 2013, 05:51:34 AM
The new boards are at least 1 week out according to Josh, so maybe they'll show up some time in June.




















I mean June 2013.  June 2014 is the redesigned case.
707  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño on: April 27, 2013, 02:52:47 AM

Why would they? Avalon chips are inferior GHs/watt.

Work it out for yourself.

Avalon 66GHs @620watts = 9.4Watts/GHs
BFLabs 5 GHs @30watts = 6.0Watts/GHs

The problem with your comparison is that the Avalon is a standalone unit, whereas the BFL needs to be plugged into a computer. If you've got a Raspberry Pi controlling it, then that doesn't add much where power consumption is concerned. But I feel like most people won't be using a Raspberry Pi or anything of that sort...

Well we know most of the people mining for BTC have a computer and are most likely to have one running to 24/7.

But don't bother nitpicking minor details when people like erk can't grasp that concept that BFL lost the 1st leg of the ASIC race.
708  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño on: April 27, 2013, 02:32:17 AM

Who wouldn't probably BFL is currently ordering AVALON chips  Roll Eyes

Why would they? Avalon chips are inferior GHs/watt.

Work it out for yourself.

Avalon 66GHs @620watts = 9.4Watts/GHs
BFLabs 5 GHs @30watts = 6.0Watts/GHs





Why don't you calculate the inferiority based on earnings.

Avalon Batch 1 initially make 0.15BTC/day/GH
BFL's 5GH will arrive in mid 2013 make 0.05BTC/day/GH

Or are you one of those mystical time travelers and find time dilation consequences immaterial?  Hey, is that your magic unicorn saddled over, what a noble stead!
709  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: @ the end of the BFL queue on: April 27, 2013, 01:18:43 AM
Can we just sticky a BFL flame thread ? Would be better than seing BFL troll comments in EVERY thread, even none BFL related ones.

Here is my list:

Phinnaeus Gage
smoothie
k9quaint
Frizz23
muyuu
PuertoLibre
Bitsaurus


erk you have your head up your ass.  I have a BFL single and I am the original owner.  Obviously at one point in time I believed in BFL - far more so than you did that I was willing to risk my money.  That device has paid for itself and in that aspect BFL was successful for me.  Everything since then has been a steaming pile of poo... much like your list.

If BFL actually made a miner that did 1GH/watt I would applaud them even if it was late to the game sine everything with mining is not all about greed and making money.  Sadly they're barely more efficient than Avalon who managed to put a higher density standalone device almost 6 months before BFL.  What have BFL's preorder customers gained by choosing BFL?  The opportunity to pay for a device via wire transfer is the only advantage BFL has had in all of this.  The failed at being first.  They failed at density - a SC Single will be less dense than a 85GH/s Avalon.  They pretty much failed at energy efficiency - one of their main selling points.  They failed at customer PR - Yifu may talk smack, but Josh's mouth would make most sailors cringe.  Perhaps BFL's website is better than Avalon - I'll give them that.
710  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are you expecting a crash when Avalon Asics will be released? on: April 23, 2013, 08:54:06 AM
Seems OP is still recovering from 420
711  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time for panic buy! on: April 23, 2013, 08:35:24 AM
That was the worst panic buy ever!

I'm still shaking...hold me Cry
712  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Who here regrets not ordering a BFL unit? on: April 23, 2013, 08:16:33 AM
So due to recent videos of one user's demo/pre-release video of a single...who here are starting to change their mind about ordering from BFL?

A better question would be , "Do you regret not purchasing an Avalon instead of dealing with BFL".  I could answer that one in a heartbeat!

This.  Got my BFL refund long time ago and made back the loss by trading.  I hate trading but I would hate waiting for "soon" even more.
713  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Newbies]You wan´t to mine bitcoins but dont have any Hardware? on: April 23, 2013, 08:00:40 AM
Not bad pricing.  About 1/3 cost of Avalon Batch 3 if you price BTC to $120

Good luck seeing the minirig in 2 months time though.  Jalapeno yes, MR ....
714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: MT GOX Delays - First Timer on: April 23, 2013, 07:33:04 AM
I believe Gox requires the full 6 confirms before it shows the BTC in your account.
715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mining BTC dead? Mining LTC Alive for how long? on: April 23, 2013, 07:20:42 AM
Could be just cheaper to buy the coins rather than buying the gpu mining equipment.  I just recieved 4 free pc's but after buying graphics cards my payback will probably take 3 months.  Thats calling it close expecially if the difficulty rate soars on script mining.  I know in a few months sha mining will be too difficult for gpu mining.  There is a slight chance that you can buy an avalon batch 4 IF they produce one.  but you got to have a lot of bitcoins ready to go because they sell out in hours.

Batch 3 took three days to sell out because everybody was uncertain on ROI. It's still up in the air.

If ASIC owners and buyers are having doubts about making back hardware costs what are GPU miners thinking?  I still have a few cards but as soon my Batch 3 units arrive I'm tossing all but a couple 7970s Cheesy
716  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ☆☆☆ Opportunity to Invest in Avalon ASIC chips ☆☆☆ on: April 23, 2013, 07:14:09 AM
4000+ BTC (net 15% management costs) for <3000 GH/s with a four month waiting period.

Vs.

80 BTC for >70 GH/s for batch 4.

Ummm...


3500 + 15% is roughly 4000 BTC

Assuming Avalon Batch 4 is 40BTC, why not just buy 100 Batch 4 units which should hash at 5000GH/s.  No need to cut your fingers or do any work other than setting them up.

Whoops I gave away my plan  Grin

The management fee will be taken from the mining income and not from the setup costs. So funds needed is ~3500 BTC

Yes the upfront cost is only 3500BTC.  Assume it was just one buyer.  Would he get back the full mining return on 2800GH/s?  No, he gets back 85%.  So essentially he would need a 115% ROI more or less to break even since there's a maintenance fee.

Even if you overclock you're only looking at 3TH.

I'm not mocking your plan, just saying the numbers don't really compete with what's out there like burnin's offering as noted above.
717  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER: Erupter Blades. Review, comments, photos, and discussion! on: April 23, 2013, 07:06:30 AM
Did all auction winners end up paying? I've got my batch #2 Avalon listed in goods at >40% off BlockErupter winning price with no bites from anyone, including those that bid over 42BTC but did not win. Seems like they would be all over a deal like that. I'd have to agree that this sale smells a little fishy.

The difference: blades were immediately available - in fact they have been already shipped. Avalon batch #2... Who knows when it will arrive?

Having the unit on hand makes a HUGE difference.

Yes 10GH/s will get you 0.5BTC today and for the next 5 days, then 0.4 for 10 days, then 0.3 and so on.  It will have a head start but when it can only make 0.5 BTC to start off, when difficulty is 5x it will make only 0.1/day - one might be holding their breathe waiting for ROI.

I guess it all depends on whether you trust the network to lay low for a month.
718  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ☆☆☆ Opportunity to Invest in Avalon ASIC chips ☆☆☆ on: April 23, 2013, 06:43:26 AM
4000+ BTC (net 15% management costs) for <3000 GH/s with a four month waiting period.

Vs.

80 BTC for >70 GH/s for batch 4.

Ummm...


3500 + 15% is roughly 4000 BTC

Assuming Avalon Batch 4 is 40BTC, why not just buy 100 Batch 4 units which should hash at 5000GH/s.  No need to cut your fingers or do any work other than setting them up.

Whoops I gave away my plan  Grin
719  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Batch #1 Ships on: April 23, 2013, 06:33:14 AM
My unit got stuck at post office.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157856.msg1890568#msg1890568
Awaiting customs clearance docs. Sad
What kind of docs you are waiting for? CN22 or similar? Who will provide them?
Don't know exactly, some customs docs, that must accompany parcel. They can't give it to be, cos of big penalty, if they do so. Docs must provide central EMS office in Moscow(?).
So it is EMS fault to no have these docs, correct?
Sorry about this.
Correct. I knew that it would be the long wait... Thanks for support Smiley

Vicus your new avatar is even creepier than the last one of the kid biting his fist.

Joey Tribiani  Shocked
720  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Jalapeno Unboxing on: April 23, 2013, 06:23:44 AM
Looks like they moved the goalpost to their trophy room.



Meanwhile, BFL is accepting applications:




Thanks for that 2nd pic.  Now I can't eat or sleep.  Undecided
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