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741  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 07:40:52 PM
thunder isn't useful for buying 1 cup of coffee
its useful for buying 100 speate cups of coffees instantly.

Open Channel for standard bitcoin fee
send 100 payments for each cup of coffee
Close Channel for standard bitcoin fee

cool huh?

I don't get why people are worked up about this, or why this Lightning is taking such a long time to develop.
Here's a way to solve the coffee problem that's both simpler, more secure, and more elegant than Thunder Cats:
1. Walk into Starbucks.
2. Buy a gift card for 100 cups of coffee, with BTC or USD.
3. Use gift card each time you need to buy stuff from Starbucks. Functionally identical to Lightning/thunder,
4. Profit!
i agree for coffee like TX, thats the way to go.

but for things like coinbase accounts sending 1000's of payments to bitpay... lighting and or thunder is a big deal.
I'm o.k. with sticking with starbucks as an example.  We are not talking about 1 user buying several cups of coffee, but instead possibly 100 users or 1,000 users buying coffee through the day or the week or whatever period of time that the vender chooses before finally resolving with the blockchain .. and then at the end of the day,  week or month, all of the transactions are resolved that are within that channel for $.10 or whatever is the applicable fee for the whole bundle of transactions.
i can't be sure if it actually will work out like that.
i know for sure you can open a channel make 1000's of payments and then close it.
but AFAIK a channel is open between 2 poeple and only 2 poeple.
IDK...

its very unclear how LN will play out,
and thats why i dont like it.
742  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 07:15:28 PM
yes its good that there will be at least 2 teams competing for the best second layer solution.

I'm still not sure i like second layers scaling, but at least there's a good chance this health competition results in a strong second layer.
743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
thunder isn't useful for buying 1 cup of coffee
its useful for buying 100 speate cups of coffees instantly.

Open Channel for standard bitcoin fee
send 100 payments for each cup of coffee
Close Channel for standard bitcoin fee

cool huh?

I don't get why people are worked up about this, or why this Lightning is taking such a long time to develop.
Here's a way to solve the coffee problem that's both simpler, more secure, and more elegant than Thunder Cats:
1. Walk into Starbucks.
2. Buy a gift card for 100 cups of coffee, with BTC or USD.
3. Use gift card each time you need to buy stuff from Starbucks. Functionally identical to Lightning/thunder,
4. Profit!
i agree for coffee like TX, thats the way to go.

but for things like coinbase accounts sending 1000's of payments to bitpay... lighting and or thunder is a big deal.
744  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: electricity consuption for 1 bitcoin on: May 16, 2016, 06:56:34 PM
745  Other / Off-topic / Re: What does your Girlfriend/SO/Wife/Partner think about Bitcoin? on: May 16, 2016, 06:15:27 PM
she says things like " you love your bitcoins more than you love me  Angry"

I given up trying to deny this fact.
746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 06:12:14 PM
Preliminary testing on the thunder network

Releves promising results
747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 06:08:53 PM
748  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 06:00:58 PM

Goddamnit! I don't want to use bitcoin to pay instantly and cheaply for my cup of coffee! I'd be all among the regular folk! Bitcoin should be used only to transfer large amounts of money from one respectable person to the next. And for hodling of course.

Let the regular folk just use DASH or something.
thunder isn't useful for buying 1 cup of coffee
its useful for buying 100 speate cups of coffees instantly.

Open Channel for standard bitcoin fee
send 100 payments for each cup of coffee
Close Channel for standard bitcoin fee

cool huh?
749  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 05:23:47 PM

thunder coming before lightning

on the internet, anything is possible.
750  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 02:51:10 PM
2 steps up 1.99 steps down

welcome to bitcoin!
751  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2016, 02:21:29 AM
Can't we hurry this along, Gentlemen?


752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you had to choose a better name for Bitcoin, what would it be? on: May 16, 2016, 02:20:17 AM
How about worldmoney or freedomledger.

i like the "ledger" word, but i feel freedomledger is too long
D-Ledger?

its gata sound like a currency

like Dollars, Yen, Euro and ________.


753  Other / Off-topic / Re: Wedding talk a guys point of view. on: May 16, 2016, 01:58:53 AM
You don't want your children living with someone they are not married to for the rest of their lives, do you?
not sure this is such a bad thing.

754  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you had to choose a better name for Bitcoin, what would it be? on: May 16, 2016, 01:51:52 AM
Bits n' Bytes!

hmmm... why does this sound like dog food?  Huh
755  Economy / Speculation / Re: 0.01 BTC June 1 Prediction Competition! on: May 15, 2016, 03:17:04 AM
525.99
756  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How safe is it to store your bitcoins on a mobile phone? on: May 15, 2016, 03:09:44 AM
Quote
How safe is it to store your bitcoins on a mobile phone?
if you have some clue what you're doing i guess your phone wallet is fairly safe
but its by no means a long term storage solution.
757  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 15, 2016, 02:44:28 AM
LOL Troll level higher than usual today!

a buy signal?
758  Other / Off-topic / Re: How kids can "earn" Bitcoin ? on: May 15, 2016, 02:42:27 AM
make the kids 

do all the jobs!
759  Other / Off-topic / Re: How kids can "earn" Bitcoin ? on: May 15, 2016, 02:41:01 AM
If they are young children, then faucets are probably the best. If they are a teenager/s, then signature campaigns are probably the best way to earn money.

Yes it's true, my friend is 16 years old and he trying to get first coin now with signature campaign. But i still think that childrens don't need to work if it's no need for family. I know situations when it's really necessory but anyway, childhood must be happy.

i was perfectly happy making money delivering the local paper when i was a kid.

making a little money won't ruin anyone's childhood....
760  Economy / Speculation / Re: to those doubting the potential halving mega-bubble.... on: May 14, 2016, 04:40:19 PM
its not about the halfing

its about all the new shit dev.ed during the bear market
its about segwit + LN increasing capacity to potentially limitless
its about banks recognizing blockchain tech's potential.
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