this thread is just going around in a circle...
for some reason OP can't understand one simple phrase: scams are not moderated
Yes I know it now. But some things can be done about it, like points to IP when someone has scammed and it dependance om how big scam is, the user get ban points. When reaching limit the user can not create alt accounts anymore. So no accounts are banned, but just IP van. two things. if these points are added manually, some "enforcers" who personally got scammed will be strongly biased on their opinion. if these points are added automatically, the ones who get a negative feedback just because of some disagreement will also get their IP banned. also you say it's just an IP ban and not an account ban. but like I said on the other thread; most scammers, at least the ones who planned to scam from the beginning because their first try was succesful, use tor or VPN. |
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I dunno.. maybe it could be useful, or maybe not.
though I think that most scammers, or at least the ones who planned to scam, uses tor or VPN.
and also some people get negative trust even though they never scam anybody. like most ponzi owners and some other people..
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this thread is just going around in a circle...
for some reason OP can't understand one simple phrase: scams are not moderated
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Yes, that is why we need volontiers that can name this rank and volontiers that can be this rank.
I think it would really help the forum.
you're missing my point. getting banned = moderated. that's not going to happen anytime soon unless theymos change the forum policy on scams. |
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as people already said so many times, scams are not moderated.
if you think someone is a scammer, leave a negative feedback or open a scam accusation with proof against that user. let the buyer community beware.
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I know, im not stupid
you clearly misunderstood the post
yeah. you're saying that the admins should make an exception for site/business owners. I'm not sure that's a viable or good idea. |
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If you want to know how you can know if the site you want to invest in is good or not then first you have to check the template if it's cheap one or not, also the ddos guard, the scipt etc ............ i think it's better for you to read this articles : http://blog.e-investars.com/category/articles/for-hyip-novices/almost all ponzi site I see on this forum are cheap and just use cloudflare. the pricey ones are rare and most of them have been inactive for weeks. |
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You speak about cheap sites... who will invest in cheap sites? only a newbie or a crazy man.
all you need for a site is a domain name and hosting. the rest can be done with a knowledge of designing and scripting and other relevant things. sure you can pay for them, but if you're skilled then there's no need for that. by the way my question is still unanswered. |
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Nope that's wrong...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I believe I can. you claim to be able to know which hyip/ponzi is "safe". yet at the same time you're unsure with yourself. that's self-contradicting. let me ask you this. how can you know 99% that an owner of a cheap site won't run away as soon as they get your money? a hunch? if you're so sure then it shouldn't be that hard to explain. |
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Exactly if you have experience then you will take the right decision to invest or not to invest....(but i don't say there is no risk to take the false decision)
 that's the same as going blind. |
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You have to know wich hyip or ponzi is ok.... and not invest in all ponzis you see ..!!
unfortunately there's no real way to know that for sure. as far as I know. and the fact that you're supposed to invest as fast as possible to ensure your profit just make it harder. Are you new in the hyip and ponzi industry? not exactly. but what does being new or seasoned have to do with anything? does being seasoned makes you able to correctly judge which hyip or ponzi is ok? I don't think so. |
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You have to know wich hyip or ponzi is ok.... and not invest in all ponzis you see ..!!
unfortunately there's no real way to know that for sure. as far as I know. and the fact that you're supposed to invest as fast as possible to ensure your profit just make it harder. |
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you can make good money with it
that's greed. but only if your one from the first investors....
that's stupidity. there's no guarantee that you will get profit if you invest first. someone can make a site for $10, open a thread here, and run away as soon as someone invests 0.5btc. |
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the answer is simple. greed and stupidity.
most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
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does that question directed to MZ or me?
sorry i am confused... i could swear i have read that Muhammed Zakir accused TomateCage of self escrowing... it must have been too late for me :/ again...sorry don't be sorry mate. I asked that question because I'm confused too.  and it does look like that. |
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Tomatocage was also suspected of self-escrowing. but apparently it's a misunderstanding.
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Its not! that's it. I doubt you missed redsn0w and marcotherminer's mini drama.
Can you please elaborate? I missed it! proof? does that question directed to MZ or me? |
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Tomatocage was also suspected of self-escrowing. but apparently it's a misunderstanding.
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Its not! that's it. I doubt you missed redsn0w and marcotherminer's mini drama.
Can you please elaborate? I missed it! um redsn0w's escrow screw up and marcotheminer's stolen accounts fiasco? you were there, right? it's not much of a drama really. it's just kind of hard to forget if you watched it. and tomatocage ecrowed for someone people thought was his alt. but apparently it was not his alt but his room mate's account. AFAIK. |
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you should use a proper AND reputable escrow service if what you're going to do involves a high amount of money. I'm sure most of them will do it. it's just the usual hold and release, after all. here's the list of bitcointalk escrows. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0 |
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