Oh I see, so now people are to be ridiculed for stating the same or similar type of common sense facts.
It would take anyone only a few seconds to see the writing style and content of your two accounts are identical. An anonymous casino (which it appears you're now stating FBC is NOT even though it's marketed as such) being used as a mixer is not a "unique" idea by ANY stretch. Do some research, I suggest starting with the BTC ledger which is quite the valuable tool when searching for truths.
We have no interest in our site being used for criminal activities. All law-abiding gamblers will remain anonymous. As for your other dribble, LOL you are just flailing like a blind a fish out of water. Get some help man, you're mental health doesnt appear to be very healthy.
You are the one needing a psychiatrist. 327 posts throwing bullshit claims against us is a very unhealthy obsession. Maybe when one of your hacking victims manages to make a successful prosecution against you then you'll have many years staring at a prison cell wall to mull that over. |
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@justme_gamblin You are not fooling anyone by making a newbie account to spread the same lies and sling the same mud you just did in your real account. Unlike your unsubstantiated bullshit the allegations against you come with evidence of criminal activity on your part: [Flag] - "broke_tradah" installing hidden backdoor.I think people should go that one step further and also DT distrust these users via the [ Link] then placing ~justme_gamblin
~broke_tradah as there is evidence they are attempting to build a default trust via their various alts. And tag it as an ALT account. He posted this from his real account and everyone ignored him because of his reputation of being an untrustworthy obnoxious troll. Well remembered but I'm not sure why you are discounting that they might have actually won a lot of Bitcoins.
Sup TheQuack: Winning less than one has lost is not considered winning or being successful which is what the post was referring to. So "Why" are they discounting it? Because they are not out to shill FBC with unreasonable thoughts. It's unreasonable to assume that this person won anything at all due to the high house edge of FBC and the amount of LONG time the account ID has been seen (if it was an actual account of course which no one can prove or disprove including you lol). As you said yourself, the longer one plays, the more LIKELY they are to lose. So there you have it, the "Why" of why someone would assume they lost instead of won using your own speeches on gambling and lengths of time. As for how someone gambles this much BTC, thats an interesting subject to discuss. IMO these are likely not legit BTC. If you take a look you can see that many addresses that have deposited into known FBC addresses come from known hacked BTC addresses (there are monitors you can look at online to see this or you can research it yourself). It's common knowledge that one of the MANY ways to filter/disperse stolen/hacked BTC is to use gambling sites (FBC isnt the only one that is used for this purpose but it is among the top 3), tumblers, anonymous exchanges, etc. They all serve the same purpose and it's mostly just personal preference as to which one someone may use. The other option is that this isnt a real account at all and is just a dummy account by FBC itself. All of these are plausible explanations as to how anyone would put this much BTC on the line for next to no return at all. It is far too much of a coincidence for anyone to believe that another newbie just came along and made the same claim. I think the player just got carried away by adrenaline.
Actually the more likely scenario as that of mixing stolen BTC. No one in their right mind (other than a hacker who is playing with free BTC) is going to gamble away the amount of BTC seen here (It would take 188 to 800BTC to pull off wagering 4000+BTC). It's a pretty well known fact (provable with the BTC ledger) that FBC is used as sort of a mixer for those that like to play with other people's BTC. They dont care if they win or lose so long as they get back mixed BTC. Anonymous casinos are just one of a plethora of options for mixing BTC, its mostly just personal preference on which options a hacker will use. Some use multiple options, others dont. The end result is still the same. Mixed BTC. Note that it's MIXED and not "cleaned" BTC. There is no such thing as "cleaned" BTC since it's not a privacy coin like Monero. The idea is to mix BTC so much with "clean" BTC that by the time someone tries to block or blacklist it (if its consolidated into a single or only a few addresses), it's to late and would affect others who had nothing to do with the theft to begin with (including themselves). He using an ALT to hide from his flag and try and fool people into taking him seriously. On the subject of illegitimate BTC anyone using freebitco.in as a mixer is a fool. If approached by a law enforcement agency with evidence of wrongdoing we would help them put together the deposits and withdrawals. For real anonymity they need to use a service designed for the purpose that doesn't keep any logs. |
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One could guestimate the following based on known factors.
You could do but you would be making the schoolboy error of assuming that variance of luck doesn't exist. Some people just get very lucky and are able to gamble up a very small deposit to a very large balance. I understand that winner may have started with a small amount and got very lucky and gambled a lot of money. But we are talking about a long standing amount of gambling, not like he gambled once and got lucky, we are talking about him gambling thousands every month, that is a lot of money. This is why it is a shock to many people and most of us have hard time believing this dude started with a few bitcoins at best and managed to reach to 4000+ bitcoins wagered, that is still in the possibility of what could happen, but we are still talking about something that would require a few miracles in a row. Obviously you know what you are talking about and we do not, you can see what he deposited and we do not, which is why we can't say this happened or that happened because we all would be guessing it. However you should also realize how hard it is for us to understand something like a few bitcoins turning into few thousand bitcoin wagering. The one thing they did to help keep the winning streak going for so long was to make very few rolls each day. Someone using auto-bet or a script would have made the same number of bets they did in 3 months in 1 day. The smaller the sample size the bigger the chance of variance occurring. That can obviously work against you as well.
@justme_gamblin You are not fooling anyone by making a newbie account to spread the same lies and sling the same mud you just did in your real account. Unlike your unsubstantiated bullshit the allegations against you come with evidence of criminal activity on your part: [Flag] - "broke_tradah" installing hidden backdoor.Edit: There really isn't anything anyone here wants to say to you here other than this: I have supported this flag, and it is now active... peddling a bot with claims of "guaranteed" winning is one thing... peddling malware designed to steal usernames/passwords and wallet files is a completely different level of scum.  |
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I'm reluctant to draw that conclusion because it is working perfectly on my account and of the hundreds of support requests I get every day you are the first to report this issue.
Unfortunately I'm facing this issue just like @Lucius. Just recently I checked the stats, no distribution of the Sats was recorded. wetsuit is working on it now. There's an issue updating the total referral commission paid data. It's only the "Share amount based on total referral activity" that's affected so maybe that's why nobody else noticed. |
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Sorry I haven't got back to you. I can't find anything causing it.
Obviously you have a bug in the system that causes this problem with new referrals I'm reluctant to draw that conclusion because it is working perfectly on my account and of the hundreds of support requests I get every day you are the first to report this issue. I found that they are reduced to 0,001 dollars but yesterday my girlfriend said that she gets only 1 satoshi which is only 0,0005 dollars.
You found wrong. The base reward is always $0.002 and the low wagering reduction gradually brings it down 33.5% of that. And as someone is there complaining that he doesn't see any info about shared comissions, I also don't see total earned from my refferal. https://ibb.co/f1KSLtC I have total earned as 414 sats but it only shows recent 4 sats. I don't know what will help with this Please PM me your user iD or email. |
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One could guestimate the following based on known factors.
You could do but you would be making the schoolboy error of assuming that variance of luck doesn't exist. Some people just get very lucky and are able to gamble up a very small deposit to a very large balance. |
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On the video the first "recent" column hasn't updated and shows the same before and after the timer expires. The page is cached so you need to wait for it to update. |
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I guess you missed my question in a long list of others emails and msgs  Anyway, let me rephrase it just in case. What will happen to ref.commission when the Free Roll base reward will reach 1 Sat level almost for everyone (because of BTC market price)? Thanks It's already been discussed extensively. We are considering either increasing the time between rolls or adding more decimal places. The latter is the best solution but there are a lot of changes needed to implement it. Referral commissions on free rolls is the most heavily abused aspect of the site and, with hindsight, we probably would have never would have implemented it to begin with. |
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All eligible claims paid up to this post. Reminder: You must post a screenshot of your roll on the FREE BTC page. |
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It's difficult without seeing what settings you used.
Here you go:  I can't reproduce any problems with it. All I can think of is that you had already shared the max possible with each referral at the time. Click "SET AUTO-SHARE" again and make sure you get the message "Auto-share set successfully!" and see what happens next week. |
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For start I want to point out that I sent a PM to TheQuin regarding this issue, and also officially via ticket on site.
It's about having one referral who is among the top active, but for some reason he doesn't get any of what I share with my referrals every week - all I see is his recent commission returning to 0 every week, and the total commission is always 0.
As an option for share I use "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout" and as always that share is distributed according to referral activity - and it has always worked since I was a member (since 2014).
Does anyone have an idea why this referral cannot receive a share, and why its total commission is always 0?
Sorry I haven't got back to you. I can't find anything causing it. Also a question, today I noticed that only half of the amount I allocated to referrals went to them - does freebitco take as much as 50% of that amount?
We don't take anything out of it. You can't share more than the referral income you have earned from each referral back to them. So if you allocated more it will be limited that way.
Hey, now you mentioned it, I noticed this issue despite setting the share percentage to 25% before the countdown refreshes. Quin, could you look into this?
It's difficult without seeing what settings you used. |
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Well remembered but I'm not sure why you are discounting that they might have actually won a lot of Bitcoins.
I know you didn't reply to me but someone else but I think I can answer all the shock here from the people. This dude wagered an insane amount of wagered, sure 5% house edge may have ended up eating a huge chunk of his money, or maybe he won, or maybe he lost a lot more than just 5%. Really anything could have happened, this guy may have lost 4k bitcoins, won 4k bitcoins and anything in between is possible and that is not the point here. The point here is that this dude wagered over 4k+ bitcoins, that is nearly 200 million dollars, I mean a person wagering 200 million dollars is surreal you are aware of that right? In 6 month span as well. If Elon Musk decided to wager 200 million dollars per 6 months that would have been a huge news, this would have been a news all over the media, we are talking about numbers that is world elite wealth level, like top 10 super rich people in the entire world level of rich people, that is WAAAAY too much money to gamble. Maybe you guys are rich as well so it is not a shock to you but to us who have like 0.1 bitcoins as our savings, I am incapable of even understanding that amount. You'd all be in even more shock if you knew how small their deposit was! |
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Is there a way to see what the actual odds will be after the betting event ends?
I can see that we bet on estimated odds such as 1.72, but what will the odds be after the betting closes?
Can we see this?
Thanks
Only if you have a crystal ball and can see the future. wow! why do i get a different reward for placing a bet on events?! i placed a bet at 3.6 . as the betting window was closing, several days latter. the odds changed to 3.1. i got rewarded for the odds at witch i did not bet? how is that!
my odds changed after the fact! how is that?
Because that is how it works which is clearly explained on the page. Bet on the latest events against other FreeBitco.in users and win a share of the prize pool if you pick the winner!
The estimated winnings are calculated using what is currently in the prize pool. Because you are betting against other FreeBitco.in users the prize pool and your share of it changes when they bet with or against you. The final odds can only be calculated after all bets have been placed. Please read https://www.gamblingsites.com/sports-betting/types/pari-mutuel/ or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parimutuel_betting for further information on parimutuel betting. We even wrote this next outcome odds so that there could not possibly be any confusion. Estimated odds for this outcome. Actual odds will be calculated after betting ends for this event.
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So, someone just spend over 220 Bitcoins or $11 117 000 to get $200 000 worth Lambo. Wow. I hope he didn't really purchased all these tickets and got it through wagering. If not, probably it will be most expensive Lambo ever.
But even if he wagered a lot of BTC and got Golden tickets in this way, it's still insane money. If he can afford to gamble so much, probably these $200 000 doesn't means much for him.
He got the tickets from wagering. I remember this guy, he is the one who won the daily wagering contest every day for like 5 months straight. You can take a look at the monthly contest winners to see the insane amount of bitcoin he was wagering last year and this year: September: 95.39641500 BTC October:2947.53454000 BTC November: 1175.75483500 BTC December: 1405.83712500 BTC January: 550.40739500 BTC And then he suddenly disappeared. This gives a total of 6174.93031 bitcoin wagered in a 5 month period. With freebitco.in's 5% house edge he would have been expected to lose 300+ bitcoin by wagering that much. He would have gotten some perks like reward points and winning the daily wagering contest every day, but I'm thinking the mere 4 bitcoin he won from this competition is nowhere near the amount he lost over this time. I think with users like this we really don't have to worry about freebitco.in running out of bitcoin anytime soon. Well remembered but I'm not sure why you are discounting that they might have actually won a lot of Bitcoins. |
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They have still not posted any information regarding the lambo drawing. I don't know if we will find out the winner tonight. Maybe I will be lucky enough to wake up with an extra $200k in my account tomorrow.
It's happening any moment now. Keep an eye on https://twitter.com/freebitco |
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I got lucky that time and the shock of what happened was balanced out by the earnings I made. Still, that thing scared the crap out of me, so I had to secure my account, in case it was a hacker attack. I withdrew my winnings, changed my password and enabled 2FA. But kept using the platform as I did the past 6-7 years.
If you are using 2fa then the only way someone else can access your account is through your already authenticated session. Are you using any program or app to access the site?
#TheQuin - Can we have a thread for these kinds of wins, like we have for the FREE ROLL wins, where people report their winnings from the wheel? It would be nice to see if there are actually people winning anything bigger than 35 Satoshi or 3500 Lottery tickets?
I have loads of people affiliated on my ref that I know and they are all subscribed to this "Wheel" ...but they only saying that they are winning very small prizes.
Is that doable?
There seem to be enough people posting them in this thread to make it unnecessary. |
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How can you even click the same link twice since the second time would say it's already been used?
It won't say that if you don't make the spin after clicking on the link for first time. I have just tested it myself and it gives different client seed as he (FinneysTrueVision) said. You may check it yourself. Click on the free spin link, it will open in new tab. Then go back and click on it again. Finally check the provably fair option. It will show different client seed at both opened page. @math09183, The free spin works in the same way always and the outcomes are randomly generated. The wheel gives the result at same position every time, just the reward template keeps rotating. You should observe it few more days before saying anything like that. Individual users link has given same reward but it doesn't prove that it was manipulated. Check the outcome number as well and verify it yourself. He also said two different users: How does Wheel Of Fortune works? Results are not 'random'. If you have 2 different links, sent to 2 different users and if you launch them in this same browser one by one, you will get this same result (even exactly this same position on wheel).
Later I will prepare a video and proof it.
So that would also make the server seed and nonce different. Maybe he just got confused by luck giving the same result twice in a row. @math09183 When you make your video please don't forget to click the provably fair link to show the server seed hash, client seed and nonce. Then after the spin go to your roll history on the MULTIPLY BTC page to see the full result and verify it. |
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the recent promotional deposit bonus was a bit unfair don't you think?
it said deposit any amount and get 10 new rolls on wheel of fortune. which means if you deposit 1 bitcoin you would get the same number as someone else who deposited the minimum amount of bitcoin!
i think such promotions should be based on amount deposited and you should get 1 new roll for every for example 0.005BTC.
The last time we did a deposit bonus giveaway it was for Golden Tickets and in exactly the format you suggested and ran for 48hrs each time. Unfortunately, one individual started depositing and withdrawing the same 2 BTC constantly for 48hrs every time we ran it. We think this is a lot fairer on everyone and a lot less attractive for high rollers to abuse. Edit: I forgot the happy ending. They spent a fortune in mining fees and didn't win the Lambo. |
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Just want to put this out there: I enjoyed the recent limited offer of 10 free spins per deposit and wanted to convey my thanks. It put a fresh new spin on things ;-)
Hope Freebitcoin repeats that sometime... soon.
I'm hoping the mempool clears out so we don't have to.  |
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I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned since I have not looked at the previous answers ... but I noticed that the captcha format has changed in the wheel of fortune, which made me quite upset. Maybe this is just a matter of habit, but I would prefer to go back to the old version of the captcha.
I haven't noticed any changes. Today I got same Google ReCaptcha as usual. But I don't use h-captcha or how it;s called, maybe they have made some chjanges with it. Google gave up on developing reCaptcha V2 a few years ago and they're just working on V3 now which doesn't have a challenge and just gives a score as to how likely they think you are to be human. That has meant that it is becoming less and less effective at stopping bots which is what it is intended to do. Many sites are switching to hCaptcha because they are constantly improving it. That might inconvenience a human a tiny bit by having the format change slightly from time to time but those changes are essential to actually achieving the goal of the software. |
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