^^^ You forgot Scenario 3: God makes good people because He wants good people for whatever His reasons.

Then the people turn bad because they don't realize the dangers of badness, and they want to test badness out.

Then God saves people to get some good ones out of them like He wanted in the first place. But He still gives them their free choice.

In the future, God will separate the good ones who want to be with Him, from the bad ones who want to be apart from Him. Of course, those who want to be apart from Him aren't of any use to Him, and He did all He could to get them to want to accept Him, so get rid of them since they won't accept.

It was interesting knowing you, Astargath.

^^^ But nobody has proof for evolution theory evolution. And that is what this thread is really about. So, either you are hoaxers, or you are kind of ignorant.

Nature has a purpose for everything. How much more when the purpose is a command from God. And especially when we see that it is a great command.

As far as the cures, you won't look for them because you like being mentally ill in general.

Here's Your PROOF, "The Left" Has Gone COMPLETELY Insane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6grXCooL3-M

^^^ I know. Asking the same questions over and over, in the wrong direction, is a favorite of yours. I can't really say that you are a troll. But there are some trollish things in doing such.

Get it through your head, God didn't kill anybody. The most He did was to follow the requests of people that they be put to death, and expedite what might have taken many more years otherwise.

Why did He do even this if He wanted them to be alive? Because life wasn't all that He wanted out of them. He also wanted a loving relationship with them. That's why He sent Jesus to save people... so that they could reconsider (in your case, many times), and make a final choice for death or life.

Will some reconsider? Yes. Some will reconsider, and accept the renewed life that God wants for them. So, God will get what He wants. The giving of the gift of life for people who want a relationship with Him; the gift of a living death for those who really want it (of course, nobody really wants death).

All that atheism is, is a foolish idea that somehow people can believe God out of existence. But they don't really want to die. Rather, they want renewed health without God. So, God will even give them that.

How will God give atheists life without God yet without death at the same time? Jesus won life for them when He did His work on the cross. Jesus's work gives atheists life, just as it gives everybody else life - life for all in the resurrection.

Since everyone has life from Jesus as a gift of God to look forward to, what are Hell and Heaven all about? They are about two things:
1. The gift of living forever with God - Heaven - joy, peace, hope, forever;
2. The gift of living forever without God - Hell - no joy, peace, or hope, but instead, continually being destroyed and renewed for more destruction, forever.

Atheists are asking by their atheism that there be no God for them. That's part of the reason why they hate religion. Religion is causing them to doubt their desire for no God. Even religions that don't have a god are causing atheists to think, a little, that there might be a god. Even the religion of atheism thrusts them into the position of being god in their own lives.

Atheists hate religion because it forces them to recognize one way or another that God exists. Since He exists, why not turn and be friends with Him and live with Him in the joys of Heaven? Why end up living without Him in the continual destruction of Hell?

^^^ Well, thanks for confirming that evolution is a hoax by continually avoiding the subject in its own thread.

^^^ What's the difference if he existed or not? If his experiments can be done by others with the same results, who cares who was the first to do them? This is about FE, not the existence of some scientist. All you are trying to do is avoid the issue because it's easier to do this than to answer the real questions.

^^^ 1. Recognize that homosexual tendencies are only that, tendencies, that were recognized to be friendship tendencies in other ways than homosexuality.
2. Get help and counseling to confirm how to properly apply those tendencies in life.
3. Absolutely avoid homosexual acts.
4. Get counseling about how to interact with people of both sexes without doing the H acts.
5. No sexual intercourse outside of marriage.
6. Make friends who are strong in ways that avoid H, while avoiding people who tend toward the H acts.
7. Seek a straight church, and get counseling for those trained to deal with H.
8. Avoid anti-H medicines as much as possible; get into good nutrition.

Doing these things will gradually train a person away from H no matter what his chemical tendencies are.

Life is full of troubles. Don't make them worse by indulging them.

Acting out the gay part is an illness because it completely thwarts the purpose for the instincts, procreation.

No you can not.
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@Astargath, just because you're too stupid to understand the Sagnac effect doesn't make me a liar for claiming the inventor of oscilloscope successfuly replicated it while taking rotating frames of references into account. You've obviously got some kind of cognitive impairment or you're a paid shill who needs to be raped to death with a gasoline powered chainsaw.

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^^^ The box wasn't enough, this ZOG puppet insisted that Google cuck its AI and make YouTube serve up an endless list of 'flat earthers are the stupidest people alive' videos. The target audience was looking for videos from flat earthers to explain why they believe the earth is flat, instead they got absolute crap videos full of clowns.

The ad doesn't play if the user doesn't click on the video they were looking for, Google's primary source of revenue didn't get what they were looking for; they dumped Google causing it to lose $70 bn in value.

God wants people alive. Even if they kill themselves, he wants them alive. Some of them will accept life when given a second chance. Some of them won't. This is the way to prove it out.

In the Judgment, God will have the ones He wants alive. He will have found out which ones don't want life. But for the people, they will have proven it to themselves.

Why start again? Broken record. Rather, get the results.

When you get to the Judgment, you can ask God about the wisdom of His ways. Whatever the wisdom of His ways is, the point from our position is to be saved alive.

Turn while you can.

I get sick once in a while. But I don't choose to be sick. When I get sick, I work on ways to get well rather than indulging the sickness more and more.

^^^ Find it over in the "Scientific proof the God exists" thread.

However, evolution is a hoax.

^^^ God tells us in Proverbs, through Solomon, that whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your strength... because there is no thinking or doing of anything in the grave where you are going.

God is taking His own advice. And when God does something with His strength, it isn't easy to even change gears. Consider the car that is moving at 100 mph. It doesn't stop easily except with disastrous results, by the semi moving in the opposite direction. God is fantastically great. Even He doesn't change His own direction when He sets something in place with His strength.

What did God have set in place regarding Adam and Eve? Genesis 1:28:
When did God set this in place? Before they ate of the fruit, not after. It was God's plan, His goal, His desire, that He was doing with His strength.

Is God getting what He wants? Yes! He wound up sending His son, Jesus, to get what He wants... and also to fulfill the last part of what Solomon said, above, that "there is no thinking or doing of anything in the grave where you are going." Even Jesus/God went to the grave (although He arose afterward), to fulfill the desire-strength of God that mankind fulfill the earth.

The future is this... a New Heavens and New Earth - a new universe - for all who rely on God's strength in Jesus-God-salvation. What happens to the others is their own doing.

Turn while you have a chance.

^^^ The only way that "outside the universe" doesn't exist is in the fact that "existence" as we know it doesn't apply to "outside the universe." Outside-the-universe is so different that "exist" doesn't apply or not apply to it. In fact, different doesn't really apply to it either.

What does this mean? It means that logically, logic or lack thereof, don't apply to "outside the universe," either.

Now, what does any of that have to do with the fact that, evolution of the type proposed by evolution theory, is pure hoax?

^^^ Why do you think that ISIS kills without reason? It's a religious jihad.

As you say, cops are designed to protect us. But did you read the article right above your post? It shows that cops are doing a lot of the things that ISIS is doing. EVERYBODY expects ISIS to do thos things. But people trust cops until they get screwed... something nobody does with ISIS ( trust them). But, by law, cops are not required to help with anything. And they are proving it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046236.msg50873402#msg50873402.

The point is, cops have religion. It's religion of selfishness and greed - get away with as much as you can. If they could get away with more ISIS-like activity than they are getting away with, now, they would absolutely do it.

^^^ There are both, free will and lack of it.

For example, when you work for a company, your boss often tells you to do something. Some things he dictates. But others he allows you to use your own judgment on. The results work out best when there is a little of each, free will and controlled direction.

God works similarly in the universe, but much more foundationally. He allows us partial free will so that we are free. But because we are not strong enough to actuate anything that we free-will decide, God does the actuating for us. When He does it, He does it according to His goals and the physics of the universe.

Cause & Effect in the universe makes it look like we ultimately don't have free will. But we don't have enough science to factually claim that we have free will or not. So, we need to follow the two examples available:
1. Apparent free will shows that the free-will idea is present;
2. The Bible shows us how we have free will, with God Almighty guiding it.

Conscious control of things is very limited. Even science has shown that the subconscious is far greater than the conscious.