Calls bullshit but denies NOTHING of what we have just said BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to deny observable behaviors and instances.

Well done mikeywith you realized you have NO ANSWER to the observable instances we just pointed out.

Millions of people do not care about individuals, but millions of people will study the history of crypto currency and will use this board as historical research. Just hope they don't read the posts that demonstrate you side with scammers and liars over honest members. NOT INTERESTED....

Now either tackle the points we present or just run away, but don't feel you can call bullshit when we are presenting things anyone can research and validate for themselves.  You just look foolish or untrustworthy. We prefer to believe you are just scared and smart enough to realize you are better off sitting on the fence but shouting support at the current DT crowd. Well done mikeywith.

NOT INTERESTED.... good excuse. "myth"

@mikeywith


Your arguments as usual are paper thin and make you look either foolish or untrustworthy.


1. You claim you do not ever counter peoples tags. This means you are not suitable for DT.  If DT's that have observably lied and scammed are tagging whistle blowers for revealing this then you should be countering them. If you can not see that then why are you on DT?

2. You say you are NOT INTERESTED in what Lauda does? so this is like saying if lauda scams, if lauda extorts, if lauda does a shady escrow, if lauda leaves red trust to whistle blowers and therefore facilitating scammers you are not interested in that?  so you too are facilitating scammers then? I hope you have the capacity to understand that.

3. You are not bothered whether some DT's use double standards to tag account sellers in some instances but not account sellers that do so because by their own words it is EVIL and facilitates scammers? Double standards means there is corruption. If you have corruption then that is untrustworthy.

4. Our shit? we call out your observable selective "caring" about scammers because we see you searching around for other members untrustworthy actions ? this is an observable instance. There is no OUR OPINION you selectively avoid BEING INTERESTED in scams and untrustworthy actions of the gang because you are just as scared of them as LFC.

Life easier? how would it be any different? I mean depending on who you believe we are how does it make any difference? If we are CH he is already plastered in red, if we are QS he is already plastered in red?

The funny thing is about this is that EVEN IF we were another member we decided to ACTUALLY speak out and do something about it rather than PRETEND we are not interested in DT members bullying other to help them facilitate scamming. The entire reason some members may consider having to do that is because other DT members ARE NOT INTERESTED in making sure red trust is not used as a weapon to silence or destroy the accounts of whistleblowers. Get it now?

Have a think about all of that CHIPMIXER boy before you answer. You are digging your own hole.  Either you want to do the RIGHT THING in all cases or you just want to do the RIGHT THING with members you know do not have a gang behind them to ensure your account gets trashed and your CHIPMIXER sig removed. With them you are NOT INTERESTED in doing the right thing at all.

Just admit you're a bitch to the trust abusers and scammers like LFC bitcoin is. No point denying it when the your observable behavior demonstrates this is clearly the case.

Just remember mikeywith this is all being documented historically. In years to come these conversations will be read by millions and you don't want to appear a weak little weasel like the rest of DT. Well some are full on scamming dirt but the others are ass lickers and feltchers. Money is not everything.

You don't want to get on the wrong side of THEM either do you mikeywith?

I'm glad you asked. Let me use this opportunity to answer your valid question and tear you a new asshole at the same time. Take time to reply and then ANSWER the ACTUAL points made.

What is NOT trustworthy.

1. Lauda lying for clear financial gain. That is scamming. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131477.msg50628003#msg50628003

2. Using red trust to silence the presentation of observable instances of wrong doing by DT's. This is scammers and their ass lickers like you using red trust (WHICH IS MEANT TO BE FOR SCAMMERS ONLY) to protect scammers and facilitate scamming. It is not a difficult concept to grasp. So if anyone presents an observable instance of wrong doing by a DT they roll out the red trust on them. This is scam facilitating and untrustworthy.

3. Thanks for admitting you gave lots of red trust and can not demonstrate ANY SCAMMING on our part at all. This was mostly given due to us starting an INVESTIGATIVE thread on hhampuz's hiring of scammers, liars, probable extortionists, shady escrows THE VERY SAME PEOPLE YOU TAKE YOUR ORDERS FROM AND ARE SHIT SCARED OF.

4. We love the red trust you all gave to this account because it demonstrates clearly that even when you bring observable instances of wrong doing about certain DT members they will

a/ say it is defamation and lies but can not deny the evidence? what a bunch of retarded losers.
b/ say you are threatening them if you say to others they should investigate for themselves certain DT past's here
c/ vod there giving red trust for us deleting his 3rd SAME accusation about OG and still refusing to present evidence of his claims....LOL that is defamation but no we are trustworthy for stopping him repeating accusations with no evidence. But we present clear evidence of these issues we bring up and that is defamation Lol. What a bunch of untrustworthy scum.

5. The observable double standards and gaming of the trust system
account sellers that claim don't mind if they  facilitate scamming or will do it anyway for 0.3 btc like nutildah are made DTs whilst other accounts buyers and sellers are given red trust and excluded.
screaming posting PM's is untrustworthy and disgusting then such moon is found to have posted peoples PM's https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1389916.msg14161146#msg14161146

MANY scammers and indeed the very best scammers will of course need to look trustworthy for a period of time. Quoting you're on DT because the same people that the PM demonstrates forces you to do what they say just makes it look more of a colluding untrustworthy scheme. Stop digging your own hole. I wonder if we look who you give and get the most merit from matches from the colluding gang on DT1 ??

You've been busted as another bitch of Laudas however you want to try and spin it and a trust abuser trying to use red marks to invalidate observable instances that anyone can investigate for themselves. DT is broken and people like you broke it scumbag.

2014 who cares noob... you were late to the party. That cuts no ice with us.   About the time your master lauda was lying and scamming people actually as clearly demonstrated .

shut up asskisser vod, we know you believe in transparency of OTHER PEOPLES ADDRESSES  that is certainly UNTRUSTWORTHY

However you did provide an EXCELLENT explanation of why honest and trustworthy members may decide it wise to post under alt accounts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137144.msg50915510#msg50915510

So rather than just being a total ass licking dreg like you and NOT DO THE RIGHT THING and facilitate scammers like you are doing by not daring to speak up to preserve your own account. Some MAY decide to create proxy accounts to shield their accounts from the TRUST ABUSE you facilitate and still DO THE RIGHT THING AND SPEAK UP.

This relates strongly to hhampuz because as we can see he supported your doxing of a forum treasurer (UNTRUSTWORTHY) and is now refusing to be transparent over his own actions which actually could relate directly to corruption, collusion on initial distributions of tokens and outright scamming.

It is not important WHO delivers observable instances. Only that you can validate them yourselves without knowing who supplied those instances. It is important to know WHY you are accepted or denied earning on the board and how that compares to how OTHERS are accepted and denied.

These are semi complex concepts vod so get someone to explain them to you if you are still having trouble seeing the clear difference.


Hhampuz needs to be transparent so we can see if he is being fair or if he is corrupt and accepting kick backs or is involved in the gaming and  market making of new projects.  If he will not be transparent why do we need him? we can just use campaign managers that will be transparent and demonstrate they are being fair and not leading to narrow initial distributions that can be gamed .

Try to engage and debate the real issues not try to avoid them and make personal attacks. Makes you look weak and unable to make any rebuttal to the central points. That is pretty much like admitting you agree with us or refuse to but can not present a case as to why

How did it backfire moron? it demonstrated to the entire board you are a scum bag that needs removal from DT and that LFC is just short for Lauda's Feltching Clown or Laudas favorite Cumguzzler?

That along with Vods messages here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137144.msg50915510#msg50915510

Along with your clear abuse of red trust to whistleblowers..... you are going down, along with all those that support you. It is only a matter of time and applying the pressure to the correct projects and campaign managers.

There is a clear gang operating within DT and the other weak ass pussies in DT including LFC are not fit for purpose.


LOL @yogg still trying to dispute the fact this IS A PM from LFC. Believe it retard, it is there in black and white. Lfc confirmed it bozo.

Thanks for the explanation lauda duh I don't like bill gator either master. Another ass feltching fool that needs removal from DT immediately.

1. you would need to PROVE the person has an ALT account

2 Even if you could (which would be impossible)  then a person under the conditions THEYMOS has allowed this board to descend into : where any person presenting observable instances of DT's prior wrong doing get given RED TRUST ... then it is quite essential and sensible to take precautions to ensure that liars, scammers and their ass lickers like LFC who will do what his is told because he is a chicken shit, and people like you because they are thick as shit and likely an asslicker too will support the trust abuse and add to that.

Sorry but claiming it is untrustworthy for honest and trustworthy members to take precautions and against observable scammers and their friends UNTRUSTWORTHY and scam facilitating use of red trust is about the limit of your feeble mind.

LFC is Untrustworthy, You are either too dumb or too weak to say so. It is there in black and white. There is no denying it.

If he will do what lauda says for because he is scared of them then it demonstrates

a/ the trust system is broken to allow some members to scare others (presumably because like vod admits they will ruin your account if you do not) 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137144.msg50915510#msg50915510

b/ those that do as they are told are supporting scammers and corrupt DTs

Foolish in light of the quotes provided to say otherwise.

Weak asslicking dregs like LFC need to be removed right after the main scammers and liars that have infested DT.

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a valid rebuttal to the false and off topic accusations made by nutildah - HIS POST IS NOT DELETED. Also our post is made relevant to the initial post by reference to lfc bitcoin.



DELETE 9

on topic relevant and correct rebuttal to the 3rd world dreg who kisses ass and refuses to acknowledge observable instances that we have presented, pretending they do not exist.




Delete 10

From our own self moderated thread a KNOWN TRUST ABUSER  member yogg from bitcointalk who is untrustworthy and part of a gang that supports scammers and liars, comes to the thread and just posts some nonsense.

MYTH??

1. you are scared to counter red marks from lauda when he gives them out to whistle blowers
2. You said any account seller would be given red then when you saw it was nutildah you ran off
3. vod admitting you can not be giving the gang red or you will have your account ruined
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137144.msg50915510#msg50915510
4. LFC aka Laudas Felching Clown  admits he is scared of THEY


5. Look at lauda talking to the OTher DT members like his bitches

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147938.msg51254845#msg51254845


Mikeywith you only PRETEND to want to do the right thing. You are now wearing a chipmixer badge and you will do and say the smart things (not the right things) to keep it there.

That is a big mistake.

There is a small gang of corrupt scum using red trust to crush whistleblowing (which facilitates scamming) you know it but just don't want to step out of line with them either. Pussy like the rest of DT weasels.

Merit is meaningless garbage in its current form. However if ANY post is merit worthy. For example it made a positive contribution towards the optimal solution or outcome it should be seen as objectively deserving merit.

Since most people here have varying capacities for recognizing the TRUE value of a post then a true meritocracy is impossible with any kind of reliability or objective accuracy.

It is mostly a political weapon here, so giving it to people you are closely aligned with should be done so with extra consideration lest it comes under external scrutiny and you need to explain it.

Since it seems almost impossible to abuse merit unless to a PROVEN alt (which again is quite impossible) so I do not think you have much to worry about especially if the posts are of high value.

I would rather see people give merit to a true high value post of a friend than give merit to a clearly misleading or super low value post of someone they did not know. Although perhaps those that constantly merit the SAME people over a long period should have limits imposed upon the merit sharing.

Yes but red trust is an endorsement of trust now on this forum so keep piling it on guys.

We notice you do not refute what we just said in our last post.. Lying Fucking Coward.

That's actually a picture of lauda, cock whipping his bitch LFC because he didn't exclude his friend quickly enough from DT when he was ORDERED to do so. haha

That is all the investigation you do? you just buy what this snivelling coward tells you? Okay

Have another look at the message


then go back and investigate the thread where it went down on meta.

Lauda and nutildah

Put some effort it if you want to find the truth.

This plus what I just showed you in the other thread from VOD]

Now after saying " I DONT WANT TO GET ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THEM"

he is saying a supposed "gang"

More lies about our intentions for DT when we have said time and time that NO PERSON should be allowed on DT if they have ANY instances of financially motivated wrongdoing in their observable history here.

Lies upon lies.

I could detail the entire debacle from you from the start with LAUDA lying for financial gain (scamming) implicated in extortion, shady escrow, trust abuse or using red trust to silence whistle blowing of his own prior historical dirty deeds. LFC knows all about all of this and is just a shit scared pussy who still does what he is told by lauda and gang.

Just a deceptive weak and cowardly miscreant.

Micgoosens been here 5 mins and think it knows shit but does not refute or make even an attempted rebuttal of any important points. Low functioning dreg.

To recap - a weak spineless gimp that will chop his own "pals" in because the "supposed" gang he does not want to get on the wrong side of. Who he knows have lied,scammed, extorted and other shady shit but lets them use him as their bitch because he is a pussy.

Let's get people on DT that have ZERO history of any financially motivated shady actions here and are not scared to red trust people if they are scammers, and hold ALL persons accountable to the same rules.

These double standards are not accpetable and using red trust to silence whistle blowers is a stain on this forum that theymos will never remove now he allowed it to stand so long.

I have no idea if you are trolling or are deadly serious. Either way, I have no real view on it since I have no experience with it really. I am glad you seem to have it under control. This kind of thing was brought up by others not myself.

This thread is to bring attention to observable instances that demonstrate there is currently a bunch of DT members running around using red trust to prevent others publishing their prior wrongdoing. This is facilitating scammers and is the total reverse of the intended purpose of red trust. It is not there for scammers to use to silence whilstle blowers.

LFC is a trust abuser in his own right and there are also PM's published that clearly demonstrate he is

a/ aware there is a gang of DT's that collude and use red trust to spoil others accounts and troll them
b/ afraid to get on the wrong side of this gang

this clearly explains his previous asskissing of them and supporting their trust abuse and trolling of whistle blowers.

Clearly the gang of scum bags like lauda tman owlcatz yogg, etc should not be on DT and neither should their scared ass coward puppets and trust abusers like LFC.

Those are the central points and we are not interested in hearing what a great fun guy LFC is. Either refute the central points made that demonstrate he should not be on DT or forget about posting here.

His PM is not the only evidence that many DT members are afraid to go against this tiny handful of scamming scum.

These messages from VOD demonstrate the same thing

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137144.msg50915510#msg50915510

although vod does have the balls to say this in public not cower away on pm only

This post from lauda shows how far this person believes it has influence over the entire dt

1. states it will close the thread down (not even a mod)
2. states people dare not anger her "TRY ME"
3. states it will reverse any red given by other dt members

lfc may just be Laudas Feltching Coward but that is not the point these supporters through merit and DT inclusions and giving red trust on her orders or excluding on laudas orders is disgusting especially as lauda has been caught in MANY SHADY things and outright scamming too.

Lauda and any of her supporters must be struck off DT and merit source asap.  LFC just made herself an easy target by her PM getting made public demonstrating clearly she has no place on DT she is just a bitch of lauda and gang

If anyone was doubting lauda is out of control on this board this is clear evidence.

Why are people scared of this piece of shit? tell him to fuck off ffs.

So there is compelling evidence that suggests theft that person would be called to explain or given red generally. However because it is one of laudas "pals" or perhaps even one of laudas alts. He gets to say if anyone gives hhampuz red he will counter it and even asking Hhampuz to explain will ANGER HIM?

What is this dirty bunch of rats doing in DT.

We need to remember who the main supporters of this bunch are so when they go down we make sure their supporters are finished here for good too. Yes suchmoon, bones, the pharmacist , new anon, etc.

Hhampuz should just be transparent as we have been telling him recently. If he had good reason then fair enough.

The most worrying thing about this all is not even this issue with hhampuz it is the observable instance of lauda pushing all dts about and acting like his ANGER is something everyone needs we scared about. Theymos needs to remove this individual and his core supporters asap. This has implications for the entire board.

How does lauda get to claim he will shut this down "TRY ME" - is theymos sitting back letting people intimidate other DT's with this kind of language?  TRY ME WHAT?  this weaponizing of red trust has destroyed this board.

Evil bunch of merit cycling scum. Well I only have your word for that. Who knows perhaps you are robovac and suchmoon. There is certainly enough of her to spread over several accounts.

The true legend Cryptohunter is a flattering and generous appraisal. Incorrect though. You would require video evidence to prove cryptohunter ever posted from this account. That would not be possible to attain since it never happened.

Let's not go off topic further. WE are waiting for someone to try and refute the central points made here about LFC. Nobody will because nobody can.  The PM said it all. Not that looking at his fawning and ass licking posts to his DT masters previous to that did not clearly demonstrate what a spineless cowardly scammer supporter he was.

Been reading up. I am ready. Let's talk.

Transparent means you will have a clear set of rules and that people will get given explanation as to acceptance or denial. This explanation will be clear and observably fair and consistent with all members. 

Can you tell me YOUR definition if those are incorrect?

lauda is correct

observable instances can not be called trolling. That is trolling trolling as has been explained to you before.

Repeating things that have been demonstrated as incorrect is trolling.

Which "attacks" do you wish to dispute? please let me know so I can demonstrate you are an imbecile for trying to term them as trolling.

Don't try wiggling out with some blind filled hate bullshit excuse. Does it sound like I am hating on you. I am simply telling you without transparency you will always leave the projects and yourself open to legitimate criticism.

TRANSPARENCY. Anyone can say I did this I did that. How can people validate this without 100% transparency.

You have not explained why what I proposed was ludicrous. You just called it ludicrous then seem to have not said why? why is that NOT the fairest way that you are capable of doing it? 

Swear swear swear, ..I'm a moron who can not tackle the issues presented so don't even pretend to offer a rebuttal.  I'm cryingdumbfish a sig spamming loser who likes the corrupt sig spamming selection process currently.

Shut up you low functioning dreg. Please do not reply to me unless you tackle the central points I am kind enough to publish here. Go recite poetry with the other low functioning imbeciles like tman.

Now as I have said. A fair and transparent selection process that treats each member equally is required. Sorry if that seems too hate filled and poisonous for you. Likely because you know dumb ass idiots like you will not have a chance of creaming off top sig spots ...

If hhampuz is unwilling to be transparent and give all members a fair and equal chance then he must be pushed out and we will bring in campaign managers here that are going to be fair and transparent.

These concepts are likely too difficult for you, just keep spamming your usual worthless trash dummy.

Well he does support VERY FREQUENTLY trust abusing lying and scamming scumbags.

If his standard of English is SO POOR he can not realize an address when it is being published then wtf is this person doing as a merit source. I mean come on an address?? that is one thing most people can identify in any post.

The guy is another DT ass licker who will say anything to stay onside with them.

If they are that eager to slather people with merit they don't even read the post and grasp the meaning what is the point of them having merits to give at all. Take them all away.

ERrrrr , Not sure what to say. I don't think it fair to engage with your further in public. Perhaps get a new therapist?

Perhaps contact Bones he may have a few ideas on where you go from here.