So after stomping xldivs mind into the dirt in public and pulling part all of his pathetic low functioning blathering and excuses for his friends undeniably dirty deeds and making fun of them to the degree he simply abandons them and moves to the next one.

We then offer him a challenge in public that he RUNS AWAY FROM CLAIMING HE DOES NOT WANT TO WASTE HIS TIME....hahah
He is terrified because he knows we will clearly demonstrate that although he claims the observable instances like undeniable scamming and lying, auction scamming, willful scam facilitating for payment, and undeniable trust abuse for whistle blowing....he IS WILLING to give out negative trust to NON PALS for far less. Therefore demonstrating he is clearly a DIRTY TURD HIMSELF and totally corrupt.

Come on XLdiv , you can debunk this by accepting our public challenge. We will thrash it out here and you can demonstrate your SUPERIOR knowledge and reasoning.

YES OR NO will you accept the challenge???


LOL at the obvious LIES he now seeks to divert with.

" I GENUINELY FEEL SORRY FOR THEM/HIM etc"  - then proceeds with an attempted public ridicule over something that has simply been explained before and is quite simple.
I mean if you genuinely did feel sorry for a person you would immediately proceed to try in a low functioning way to take the piss, LOL.... then says we have no understanding of EMPATHY....haha is this suchmoons alt? hahahah  Then wonders why we feel superior and can't help it spilling over into our posts. Please fool keep with us, we ask you only post on our threads from now on. Imagine getting you, foxy, suchmoon, tman, and the other jesters here to entertain us at will.  You are a great new addition.

Next let us address the other nonsense the slobbering corrupt fool that has been demonstrated clearly to be a coward and moron tries to mislead with.

What sort of moron even comes up with the convoluted reasoning. Or devoid of all reasoning. Which we will now refer to as attempting to foxpoop us.

If you do not use a BROKEN system because it is so broken and fucked that you can NOT even use it unless the corrupt inner self elected core decide you are allowed to then you have no "mandate" to criticize it.  lol   then suggests how you can use it to zero effect for the fun of it. hahaha

Look moron, how many times must this be explained to you and all the other dummies in meta: there is no accountability at ALL in the systems of control except to the self elected system controllers themselves who have a vested interest in colluding so that a tiny fraction of the board continues to control paid2post, trading, other rev streams, and now volume of posts. 

What could possibly go wrong?? I mean once they are entrenched they can only choose themselves to be ousted from these positions of power and are free to AS XLDIV DOES selectively enforce rules to the point where people get punished for small "suspected" infractions of the rules but GET REWARDED IF THEY ARE HIS PALS AND FELLOW DT for undeniable scamming, escrow scamming, willful and deliberate scam facilitating for pay, undeniable trust abuse to silence whistle blowers.

He says, well that because you don't understand  IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK LIKE THAT ... haha. Well yes the design is fucked and according to the design it is and does work exactly like that.  Brilliant I have no idea why anyone has the right to criticize it then since it is supposed to

a/ be wide open to abuse

b/ reward abuse financially

c/ reward abuse by entrenching your power to abuse more

d/ reward abuse by allowing low function slobbering bums to feel they have some value

e/ crush free speech and create echo chambers

Yes I can see that looking at the mechanisms upon which the systems of control are designed that you can conclude it is SUPPOSED to work that way. However it could just be that theymos's is experimenting with things clearly had no real expertise in, or even that he attempted something that was actually impossible on an anonymous forum.

Now read that entire post and feel free to debate it xldiv but first ACCEPT OUR PUBLIC CHALLENGE you coward or else you will be added to the list of dirty turds.

The reason you will be added is this : You are trying to claim that undeniable scamming, willful and deliberate scam facilitating for pay, undeniable trust abuse and attempting to punish people for whistle blowing and other such things are NOT Financially high risk and therefore you yourself are a financial danger to this forum. Being on DT is also a position someone with those views should certainly not have.

WILL YOU ACCEPT THE PUBLIC CHALLENGE  YES OR NO coward.

The others like nutildah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.0  et al will obviously try to derail with any excuse.

@yahoo

You as per usual are completely WRONG.  Let me detail why. But it seems you already RAN AWAY. Let's hope you man up and return.


1. We were never on any campaign to get booted from.  So that was false.

2. Every member matters, any single member (if they can prove that you are employing double standards) can ruin your rep as campaign manager and so they should there is no place for double standards, that is corruption and dangerous for all members when dealing with new projects. Your position is VERY precarious. The project is NOT going to want lots of negative threads made about them in the title all over google. If there is clear evidence you are corrupt then that (especially when dealing with the initial distribution of tokens) means the project is wide open to manipulation and scamming. If they fail to pull you inline then the project can and should be branded a probable scam.

There is NO way to deny this. If like you say you wanted to turn some people away on the basis you have issue with the fact they like doge more than btc then that is a clear and flagrant example of a random excuse that could easily be used as a tool to selectively bring on insiders only  for that token to ensure they get ALL of the initial distribution and therefore can now manipulate that project on the exchanges and defraud innocent investors.

This is why especially regarding the initial distribution of tokens via bounties or whatever then you MUST have a CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT SET OF RULES AND CRITERIA that is applied to each member equally or it is certainly a dubious and dangerous project. Warnings about such project should certainly be raised until there is drastic effect.

3. The point you make about mods is OUR OWN POINT. The mods see the report, they are SUPPOSED to investigate it and the ACCOUNTABILITY is with THEM.  The MODS have to be accountable for the delete NOT THE REPORTER. The mod does not say oh I don't know why I deleted it you have to ask suchmoon why he reported it, I just delete whatever fatty sends us.  If you get him to say it was okay now I will put the post back. It just does not work like that.

Can you not even see the distinction??

You are paid to ensure the project is advertised by people that meet the thresholds for post quality and also weed out those that are financially high risk (or scammers). It is YOUR JOB not DT scumbags job to ensure this. The buck stops with YOU.  You can not say ... oh I refused them because timelord told me he was bad I didn't bother to investigate so I just refused him anyway then said he will need to get timelord to revise it before i will take you back.  If this job is too much for you then don't do it.

4. This is a point I have long since been pushing and it is undeniable. If you are not going to set a transparent threshold for post quality and you are NOT going to be able to justify in a way that holds up to objective scrutiny and not accept on a first come first served basis for those that pass those two requirements. Then you are left with a position that is vastly above your capability.  The argument NOT to do it that way is that they want the VERY BEST posters only and first come first served (passing the tests I mentioned) will not result in the VERY BEST POSTERS.... LOL well to discern the very best posters you would need the VERY SMARTEST PEOPLE here to discern the value and lack of value in those posts. That is not you.

5. You are very wrong that the average member can not make a stand and cause a corrupt campaign manager A LOT of trouble and any project that uses them or has used them in the past, you are also wrong that an average member can not take a stand and bring a project a lot of issue for allowing their campaign manager to act in an undeniably corrupt way. Their motivation for allowing this opens up lots of worry things for them and their investors.

If you want a demonstration of how this would work then perhaps someone will apply for one of your campaigns. The onus will be on you if they are refused, to present a case that stands up to scrutiny that

a/ the value of their posts is below the value of all those others you have accepted.
b/ that they are more of a financially high risk individual than others you have accepted.

If you fail and you either

a/ offer no explanation
b/ offer no explanation that stands up to scrutiny

Then a thread along the lines of..

IS X PROJECT KNOWINGLY EMPLOYING A CORRUPT CAMPAIGN MANAGER?? IS THE PROJECT X CORRUPT??- within the thread could be placed the evidence IE the people in your campaign that have observable instances of wrong doing, and among other things you failure to explain you refusal of entry or the total and utter crushing of your specious and bogus explanation. This can be kept updated with many new details of the types of people you regularly seem to select, their observable instances of wrong doing, your boasting that you are a dictator and that you get to do what you want, can discriminate against applicants on any basis you dream up... etc etc etc. I mean there will be no lack of updates that will clearly demonstrate all applicants are NOT BEING TREATED EQUALLY and there is corruption within the selection process and the questions that opens. ETC ETC ETC - SOON X PROJECT is on google for a big possible corruption thread

Then if the you nor the project comes to answer for that thread. You can contact the project, visit their threads and ask, why they are not acting in light of the FACT the campaign manager seems to be discriminating against certain members with no valid explanation that holds water.  Then some friends could join in and say they are very interested in why this is and WHY THERE IS NO TRANSPARENT SET OF RULES THAT IS APPLIED EVENLY TO ALL MEMBERS. They can also find other projects where perhaps the same thing is happening and save them too. Look up in the past a few people who have been annoyed in the past to get the boot on bogus grounds and bring them on with it too.

If the project does not take action then a thread with more of a statement about their knowingly employing corrupt campaign managers and therefore they are undeniably corrupt themselves with all the information and updates over and over again. More friends and disgruntled people that have been turned away.

Perhaps once this starts to happen to a lot of your projects you will find you soon have a lot less projects to manage?  I mean projects employ project managers to advertise not doom them before they start right?


Feel free yahoo to pull this thread apart anywhere you can. You will find people with zero to lose ( already being discriminated against by corrupt campaign managers) when matched against the squeaky clean rep projects want keep to get people involved is a ..................as I said very precarious position to be in. To say the ordinary member DOES NOT MATTER could not be further from the truth. It is just nobody with vast experience of hounding corrupt projects has been bothered to take action as yet.

Of course ALL OF THE ABOVE is only valid IF you are corrupt and are not applying your standards equally to all members. If you are then you will be able to explain ANY refusals you make with a cast iron case won't you??

We have vast experience with tackling corrupt projects as you may not know.  If  projects are knowingly employing corrupt campaign managers they are by default corrupt themselves.

Then again, why NOT just do your best to select people that meet a certain post quality and those you can not demonstrate are financially high risk YOURSELF.  Then, relying on the gamed and abused metrics of your pals will not get you in hot water and see and end to your campaign managing career in the near future??

Is it really too much to ask for you to employ a fair set of standards that you understand yourself and can clearly demonstrate you always adhere to?

We don't really care too much about joining your campaigns but anyone who feels they are 100% being unfairly discriminated against can follow the guide above and contact us for help at any time.

Transparent rules that ensure all members are treated equally..... and nothing fucking less will do.

It seems you and hhampuz have something to hide since both seem to be saying if we want to discriminate on bogus grounds we can and will. Is that what you are saying yahoo?  think carefully because if you can not explain your grounds of refusal in a way that stands up to scrutiny  THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.  If you can not explain your reason then your reasons are bogus. = corruption.

But at the same time you have no problem at all with your friends giving negative trust for whistle blowing, or we didn't notice you objecting to SS when he said you can correctly give negative trust for liking lemons, OR INDEED you YOURSELF gave out or tried to give out red trust because you mixed 2 things a person did say in with a 3rd thing in scare quotes and they said you were lying because they never said the 3rd thing. Even many DT said you should remove it and you did in the end. Those you believe are all okay??

I think there is a good chance that you are lauda also, it is not Just because you are euro trash croatians or whatever you are, look at your history together... prior dt includes both ways, always defending each other, merits between you??, were you not previously a fortune jack spammer now gone to chipmixer? I wonder what else could be dug up. Are you not Zorrobeck also? because qs says you are.
Plenty of reason to believe you COULD be lauda really.

Anyway far more reason to have a neg than mentioning lemons, getting tricked with scare quotes or whistle blowing.


Timelord though has provided a service here if anything. He has highlighted the NEED for campaign managers to do some fucking work and investigate for themselves who is financially high risk or NOT and also be able accountable and responsible in FULL for an incorrect decision.  What is even the point of them?? get some bot if you just need x merits in the last x period of time and x trust. That would be fairer.

It matters not if the accusation is right or wrong really - people only care about their shitty sig btc dust. If you had 200 negatives from DT and you still got to chipmixer 99% of people would not care less.

Actually this entire matter is just what we needed for our next meta debate. Yahoo is fully responsible and is being PAID TO BE fully responsible for his decisions.

Anyway the question is answered is it not? he is not currently on DT but he should be. He may have some strange views but he takes those views equally and fairly with ALL MEMBERS.

Campaign managers currently throw accountability over to DT, DT throw accountability to each other ( never find fault with each other) and theymos throws accountability to merit sources when you boil it right down and they are mostly DT. There is NO POINT of accountability AT ALL. LOL  Hence why since there is money on the table the entire thing is a shit show.

Before becoming a critic of timelord I suggest you start look at the proven scammers who abuse the trust system far more who happen to be your PALS or perhaps are even you yourself. Get a mirror.


The reader should certainly ignore direposter he will say or do anything to stay in the merit circle spamming his chipmixer or dodgy loan shark rates business to punish the very poorest here with super high interest charges makes the banking system look like santa.

That's an honest appraisal of your arrival

Stop telling people what to do for 5 mins and either join the debate or leave it.

Any reason you bumped this one??

We were going to start letting hilarious and co have a bit more slack and perhaps even stop using him as an example of bias moderation specifically and by name, since lately he has not been deleting our on topic and relevant posts. I mean sure he is still marking as bad posts like " who made this cunt bleed" or "  shut up you used tampon" .. but still we will endure this kind of shit being permitted to remain by him if he leaves our posts alone where they are on topic and relevant to the original post.

What we will not put up with is him deleting our on topic and relevant valuable posts and THEN ALSO marking as bad our reports of  well you have 2 examples above there already.

So if he leaves us alone we will start to leave him alone. Sure he has to kiss ass to keep his sigs we get that , but kiss ass without deleting our posts.

TLDR ... we will endure in silence some bias against us in the form of marking our reports bad on posts such as the above.., however just don't take it too far hilarious and co. Just do enough to keep on the side you feel is best for you , we get that, but no more crazy bias and we will let bygones be bygones.  If you had not started attacking us and being so bias we would have had no issue with you.

Then again if our on topic and relevant posts start getting deleted again we will be certainly highlighting that fact in full vigor.  It is his choice.

You are claiming that tecshare was complaining about mods bias BEHAVIORS (therefore preventing optimal flow) and that it did not matter if what tecshare said was TRUE and was still a good thing they (mods)were not removed. Either that or you are misrepresenting that his posts are being deleted due to their bias. There is action taking place in his complaints not just theory it may take place. I don't think he would be so worried about their bias pov if he did not believe his posts are getting deleted as a direct result. Hence preventing optimal flow.

Yes, don't reply and legitimize a valuable post that would be dangerous.

Anyway the op has said he will not present clear examples of evidence to support his wider suggestions so that will likely result in the end of the thread. People if genuinely interested would need to research and form their own conclusions.

Anyway it would seem we are in agreement on the general acceptable conduct of moderators if we drill down and if you were more clear or described a scenario as it actually is in its full context.

Your argument is bogus, people are not going to essentially be trawling through your shitty trust sheet looking for links to the ORIGINAL SALES PITCH when it should not have been deleted in the first place. Imagine every scammer editing the evidence used to demonstrate they are scum bags and then they say ...Well someone linked to the original somewhere so we can alter what we like and it does not look shady as hell.

LOL where is timelords FOR SALE THREAD? SO why does timelord have to prove it is not sold???  really since any person can put a " no longer for sale and never really was it was all a joke" message up after it is sold.
The rule should be IF YOU PUT YOUR ACCOUNT FOR SALE IT GETS FLAGGED end of  story.

Also selling your account is not the worst part of it at all. YOU WERE CERTAIN SELLING AN ACCOUNT WAS SCAM FACILITATING and you were screaming anyone selling their account was scam facilitating and should be make a pariah. THEN YOU PUT YOUR ACCOUNT FOR SALE for 0.3btc .  The intention is clearly financially motivated wrong doing.  

You gave into greed and now you must pay the same as everyone else. Yours was a particularly nasty one since in your mind you were facilitating scamming for a price.

There is no thirst for vengeance, the thirst people including ch likely has is for TRANSPARENT RULES THAT ARE APPLIED EQUALLY TO ALL MEMBERS.

The fact is there is more compelling evidence your account was sold than for the others getting a flag. ALSO they were not certain they were deliberately facilitating scams like you were and have not deleted their histories in shame.

Now shut up and enjoy being our bitch where ever account sales are ever mentioned at any time in the future by your scum bag colluding dt scamming pals.

@moronbozo.

stop crying trolling , that faux defense was destroyed every time you tried to use it to mask observable instances of wrong doing. Crying trolling to try to prevent justice is UNTRUSTWORTHY and should perhaps have a flag for trying to protect scammers.

Get the flag on  nutildah you weasel and stfu.

Timelord is the first person here with some real balls who is not totally corrupt it seems. There are others that are not corrupt but they have no balls.  Sure timelord can be a total asshole but at least he seems to apply his principles to every member without being a chicken shit wimp. We will glady suffer some of his over zealous flags and tags if he takes the same stance on every member here fairly and equally.

Let's hope he finds the dirty turds thread and follows those links and does some real investigative work on those too soon.

TLDR - more compelling evidence nutildah account is sold than the others getting flagged but his pals won't flag him or tag him.

 People complain about his timelords overzealous tags (perhaps some are) however there are no incidents of financially motivated wrong doing in his past, and he is not tagging whistle blowers for whistle blowing , however if you swear too much at him or other members you make get a tag. Treats every member the same from what we can see. NOT CORRUPT is a vast improvement over the colluding scum there atm.

Don't support any of laudas flags until he puts up nutildah on his account sellers list. There can be no denying he is an account seller. He has deleted the sales pitch but it is the backed up off site.

That's because you are low functioning. I mean the point of moderation is clearly to ensure the optimal information is retained and anything net negative is removed. So of course if they have strong political views that prevent that taking place then IT MATTERS. There will always be a small influence of bias that is impossible to avoid but the extreme moderation bias that is undeniably taking place in some areas of the forum need to be taken in hand.

Speculating on the OPs motives for creating the thread especially in such a negative light is a poor reflection on you not him.

His point has some validity and should be freely discussed without people screaming trolling and making other speculations regarding his motives.  I just don't think you can remove people like GM from the tech forums as a mod  (even if there are some clear examples of bias) nowhere near as easily as removing lower functioning mods from other less important sections of the board. This would be a complex decision and to balance things up adding someone of equal or near the same skill level with views that have previously varied from GM's.

The problem with meta is people tend to want to close down ANY discussions that challenge the status quo regardless of their REAL merit.

We voiced our counter opinion to his own, and suggested something different, and he took the time to evaluate and merit, showing he has a far more open mind (and clearly far more advanced mind) that your own.

Where are you when we need you? Yes indeed if people refuse to drill down and have their opinions scrutinized but insist on still voicing them over and over as valid rebuttals it is TROLLING. Not that alia is a troll at all really, they are known to be quite a good poster by a few quality members. He is just painting in broad strokes right now, he likely will drill down eventually. Perhaps just testing the waters first.

In this case though, GM should likely not be removed as moderator since he seems to be only concerned with the tech based forums where his knowledge and skill is likely suitable and who else can really be in a position to moderate what is valuable and valueless noise. I mean surely that is the moderators job to ensure the valuable information (for the entire movement and all members) remains and the valueless and net negative junk removed.

Of course many mods are corrupted by their sigs, and keeping in with those that control those sigs and have influence over other rev streams and desirable positions. I don't see GM being one of those bottom feeders and requires no such back scratching.

The best thing may be to add an moderator with (equal skill level or as near too as possible) that has not such a strong incentive to push in one direction. Possibly a skilled developer that has been known to voice opposing views and pushing in a different direct to GM.  That could balance things up but could cause a few issues too.  In the tech areas ( arguably the most important area (well meta should be very important but is fucked beyond all help now)) one must tread carefully and with diplomacy. Extremely smart people can also be kind of super volatile also. I also notice super smart people tend to get super angry when confronted by other super smart people rather than your general bod who they feel are of no real threat.

I just don't see how you can sensibly moderate a forum optimally unless especially a tech specific forum without being one of the smartest and skilled people there. So how many other options do we have that are near that skill and knowledge level in the essential fields that have been known to take a different view to GM on certain things that is not instantly going to ensure both parties get upset and leave.

When you only have a very limited number of people that can push things forward in certain areas then it can be hard to replace them, so it takes a lot more consideration than replacing the drooling tourettes suffering morons that you can switch out on other boards with immediate net benefit.

To be fair, when previously a friend of ours spoke directly to him he seem pretty courteous and pretty clear minded even when in clear opposition to his point.  He seemed the sort of person that would totally explain and justify his actions. Of course that was one anecdotal experience. If you have others where you believe he is super heavy handed or the bias is net negative then you will need to present those instances for review. Specifics as always must be analysed before the correct action can be taken.

Perhaps bring anonymint back and make him a mod there with GM, he could fit the bill perfectly. I'll bring the pop corn. haha  or what about we throw craig into the mix for like the big brother celebrity edition. That should even things up. Then nobody else would need to even post, could just enjoy the tone and odd funny and clever insult here and there since the rest would be beyond the understanding of 99% of the other members.

No impeachment vote here for now. Since we carry such sway here with theymos,  that will obviously be a load off for GM.


edit - i see doomad already stolen my prime point, time travelling scoundrel.

 

Ha, well yes in your specific case then that could be the best course of action certainly for us anyway.

However for people that are still pretending their opinions are to be taken as a valid rebuttal in some form need to be open to some scrutiny. Like on the should GM be removed as a mod thread. We see lots of screaming for scrutiny and explanation or it is TROLLING according to mprep. We tend to agree. Although you get a pass vile vixen since we would not be without you on our threads.

Thanks for highlighting the problem there is no accountability except to each of the other colluding scumbags who have a vested self interest in keeping the status quo going. Since it seems impossible for dt1 to reach the threshold of wrongdoing WHATEVER THEY DO to get fellow DT1 to accept they should be punished it all works rather nicely. Almost an a cast iron system ( for high level scammers) theymos has ingeniously created. Good job they get paid at the highest rates too

I think I can see into the future now lol

How did I know you would be RUNNING  sliding AWAY from such scrutiny.  WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE off on the rainbow slide for you. ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM


AGENT FOXPOOP - right on time... love it when the flux capacitor brings us together like this.

Well you likely missed the point that we want to scrutinize his reasoning. Like remember that time we wanted to scrutinized your reasoning and you ...................well the rest as they say is history. Well they do at this very moment

I mean we were allowing him to pick his finest examples before we pulled up other examples we wanted to use to demonstrate he is a corrupt scumbag like the rest of the dirty turds that wish to claim that the observable instances contained within the initial post do not meet their HIGH STANDARDS for a tag or flag.

But since he now SLID away down the old rainbow slide at top speed I guess his cowardly actions speak louder than any of his doubtful words every could.

Thanks guys always a pleasure haha

I hope we have not put him off though because he sure will be missed here.

why is nobody taking the mini poll on when to end the poll above?? because 66 is not far away.

AH brilliant a new excuse ....

I have not tagged anyone so that invalidates the observable instances presented in the initial post?  LOL  we know how to pick DT members here don't we.

You don't have a problem with undeniable scammers and scam facilitators and trust abuser. THANKS FOR CONFIRMING.

Brilliant now you see into the future as well. haha  

So the challenge again bring me some members you have tagged and flagged and we will compare them to the DIRTY TURDS in the initial post and then we will conduct a public examination of your reasoning behind your actions and non actions.  WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF???

You have clearly said that the undeniable and fully verifiable observable instances in the initial post WOULD NOT WARRANT you leaving a tag or flag. SO what the fuck would it take. Let's have a look shall we. I mean if you will not flag or tag undeniable scammers some with multiple counts of dirt stuck to who undeniably work as a team then the people you have flagged and tagged must be even WORSE right??

Or do you refuse to present your reasoning and examine your actions in public?  are you afraid of scrutiny??



so far in the xlraelv police station.

alice = hi mr police man here is the video evidence and signed witness statements of others demonstrating the person living n the house next to me , punching me in the face, pulling me out of my car and stealing it whilst driving over my cat. He is a total scumbag.

xtraelv police man = well maybe they only did that because you kept moaning to us that they did that exact same thing already??

alice = errr is that even possible? does that require some kind of time travel?

axtraelv police man = shut up with all the questions, anyway what I meant to say was  now that you called him a scum bag I can not really take you seriously

alice = you will ignore the video evidence and multiple witness statements and the fact he still has my car and my cat is dead? because i correctly described him as a scumbag?

xtraelv police man = same old accusations i heard before

alice = well some may say that is undeniable evidence, I mean even the thief does not deny it because he knows it is all recorded and 100s of people witnessed it, the cat is still there squashed and my car is gone

xtraelv police man = well what I meant to say is you have not reported a crime before so I can not believe you nor take your advice on what is a crime.

alice = well what would be worthy of reporting and how many things would I have to report before you can accept this kind of evidence

xtraelv police man = well for a start I can't discuss any of that with you, however I will say the person you are reporting helped me purchase a cheap car just a moment ago, so he is certainly not a thief is he, if he gets me a cheap car why would I give one fuck if that looked like your old car? he is very helpful and nice. I am upset to even listen to your slander and defamation. There may be some punishment for those crimes let me look that up whist you are still here..

alice = wtf

xtra elv police man = watch the langue please or you will be arrested, that is a serious crime you are committing, just put the cuffs on as a precautionary message, put the video over there in the garbage disposal first though, I don't like going near that its very dangerous.

alice = so you will do nothing?

xtraelv policeman = well I said i will arrest you right, you see me getting the cuffs out don't ya?

alice = NO about the thief who stole my car and killed my cat even though you have undeniable evidence

xtraelv police man = well as my captain says we need to forgive and forget everything except whistle blowing and reporting crimes... come along quietly please don't want you slipping and smashing your face into my delicate fist again do we , you've already done that 5 x in the next 45 seconds. See how bruised my poor hand is going to be.

BRILLIANT and funny post. Keep them coming. Let's take a closer look.

So noticing your time travelling convoluted excuse above failed we now have a NEW BUNCH OF EXCUSES

1. The wrong section - err no this is a poll like the troll poll was that on the incorrect board??. Besides imagine a DT saying " well i see undeniable evidence of scamming but since it is on the wrong board I will ignore it"  glad you are keeping everyone safe, you pinnacle of trust.

2. Not presented in a serious way. I mean calling undeniable scammers and scammer supporters and trust abusers DIRTY TURDS is so way off it is going to invalidate the observable instances contained within. I mean of course calling scammers and willing scam facilitators and trust abusers DEFAULT TRUST MEMBERS is far more sensible. Too funny.

3. ACCUSATIONS - LOL  these are undeniable observable instances  AKA THE TRUTH  - which one do you want to discuss first and explain why they do not deserve a tag or flag. Yes this is a direct challenge to you here and now. Let's compare them to people you have tagged or flagged.

4. YOU WOULD NOT FLAG OR TAG  undeniable scammers or willing scam facilitators  and you are on DT??  when do you put your chipmixer sig on? or have an alt already wearing one?

5. They helped you once HAHAHA well then off course they can do what they want to everyone else and that is just fine. This is out of the mikey handbook. Anecdotal crap that means nothing.

6. Theymos likely meant for miner infractions and petty one off crap that is not observably and undeniable financially high risk, not multiple counts of scamming, and being implicated in extortion and shady escrow and multiple trust abuses. Nor likely willful and deliberate scam facilitating for a price or perhaps not even auction scamming. Like I said bring me examples of those you have flagged and tagged so we can see the evil you are not willing to forgive.

back to the drawing board for you, don't stay away too long though because you are way too much fun...

Would that not ruin that knock knock joke that  tman likes to do when he visits thepharmacists box house ( just 4 rows over from his own) ?

We can't decide currently when to end the poll , let's have a mini poll here this may help us decide, ( once we exceed the number of votes listed as a possible option then that option will no longer be valid . no other options are going to be entertained so just state a b or c)

a/ 66 votes
b/ 666,666,666 votes
c/  Let it run forever and announce a winner each month.

we will decide in around a week.. probably.

Anyway, let's try to get back on topic. We are still waiting for the observable instances of wrong doing by the dirty turds listed in the initial post to be debunked and also for the top 20 merit fans and recipients of each of those to be presented in a nice little table form.

If there is no attempt in debunking them or demonstrating they are untrue, then you must be able to recognize that looks rather bad and actually seems strange that they make up a LARGE portion of most vaunted trust positions on the entire forum??  I mean if you all accept they are true, then why would you all be including each other on DT? why is theymos allowing the forum to fall under the control of people that are certainly guilty of the wrong doing listed in the OP?? they dare not even attempt to deny those wrongdoings since they ARE UNDENIABLE AND ARE THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE UNTIL SOMEONE DOES A NUTILDAH ON THEM.

That reminds me actually...must check laudas posts...  someone said he changed it now to  I was on the launch so I can confirm there WAS an instamine.  He said it does not matter because TOAA has quoted the real version a few times somewhere on the forum, so can now change it to whatever he likes.

We did hear you can have a pro nutildah whitewash of your entire scamming, scammer supporting, trust abusing history  for 0.3btc ( or even 0.0000001btc if you haggle with him) , you need to hurry and find the service thread because shorty it will say he decided not to offer the service after all it was all a big joke, then later it will just say, I am never going to offer such a service so fuck off pretending I ever did in the first place. He says it is actually annoying, and untrustworthy that you would even mention this in a negative light and likely you are mentally ill and delusional and it never even happened, before handing you red trust and supporting a flag against you for bringing it up in meta.

BTW guys loving all the new participation here, can see why you have missed us whilst we were taking a little vacation.  I mean all you have when we are gone is trannydung hammering out loyceV copycat threads, and any other super uninteresting analysis of shit nobody cares about , or the self congratulatory SELF MADE non achievers that you ( real achievers (in the scamming hierarchy ))  all view as pathetic servile scum really who are just dreaming with chipmixer signs in their eyes, totally looking past those other 3rd rate mixing/gambling pay outs they are currently forced to spam. You keep dangling the DT and inner circle carrot but you know there are only so many chipmixer sigs to go around before the dumb shits that they are realize that having a campaign manager that ensures ALL chipmixer banners concentrated in meta is not great business sense really. Those feltching dreamers disgust you, but their spamming support on your every whim and weight of numbers is of use for now to help drown out the truth. How tedious to have to endure such servile yes men knowing they only want your sigs at the end of the day.

We searched for even ONE interesting thread, just one new novel and exciting morcel that had taken place in our absence .....NOTHING

Not even any battles worthy of reading. Same boring tit for tat, girly hair pulling antics. We go away and even lauda gets cocky and starts seeping back in. Although his posts certainly do not look like the old laudas to the discerning eye do they??? who has he offloaded that account to I wonder (full of blunders and garbled slobbering)?  or perhaps just a little rusty after his time away (likely inside jail). Claims to have been having some private time with old pal thermos discussing how to push the account selling double standards flags on undesirables. How many lives does that cat have ? then again my harp needs some new strings ( so you all keep telling me), perhaps his return is going to work out nicely.

Well of course unless you can GUARANTEE that EVERY member that comes into contact with a purchased account is aware that is is a purchased account then some will say that it is impossible to prevent DECEPTION.

I mean if you are saying: if you could 100% ensure the account would never be used in a way that leveraged that deception in a way that could result in any financial damages ever then that is more acceptable, but how to say if they will ever just go scamming someone at any moment? 

WHATEVER the accepted case for selling or buying accounts is IT SHOULD BE THE SAME FOR EVERY MEMBER. No saying " well he's our pal so he can do it" or " he has been good now for a couple of years so this deception is fine" or " well I believe the little message posted months later saying..not selling now" 

Transparent clear rules that are applied equally to all members.

Nutildah's case as I have told you previously is MORE indicative of someone who is FINANCIALLY HIGH RISK because he is certain that selling his account is clearly facilitating scams, most selling their accounts likely are not 100% sure or even believe they are facilitating scams. This seemed a difficult concept for you and mikey to grasp though.

The fact there is more compelling evidence he sold his account that these others that are getting flagged COUPLED with his willingness to facilitate scamming is WAY MORE reason to flag him up that these other members.

Double standards and total and utter corruption.   Undeniable.

Lauda has said previously  that there is nothing anyone could tell him about nutildah that would cause him to give him negative trust.  Sounds legit. It seems very likely lauda or some gang member purchased the nutildah account when you start to look at how he is operating even though he is presented with the undeniable evidence of nutildah selling his account, and saying nothing will cause him to give him negative trust.  They include each other on DT, merits passing between them, I mean both accounts are clearly aware of each others undeniable wrong doing and yet they both believe they are DT material LOL

Theymos must be blind watching this happen under his nose.  Well actually he isn't and blacklisted lauda, however according to lauda they are all pals again now.

Get a flag on Nutildah because these other flags are just fuel for the clear double standards we will enjoy presenting everywhere when they are on topic and relevant. Also get him off DT. Unless you want people that will willingly facilitate scams for 0.3 btc on there.

You are the merit fountain, so we're sure a little disobedience is fine, especially as really the collusion is only a requirement specifically in areas that ensure the status quo is maintained.

Well, that is an interesting thought. Although the pics are alluring , the real excitement is seeing you've replied and the anticipation of the agent foxpoop "opinions" ( like the phone stealing one etc), those are kind of addictive now that you mention it

Keep being disobedient, vile vixens don't accept being ordered around do they ffs? any more of that and put them on merit rations for a couple of weeks...haha

Ha yes this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184281.msg52478261#msg52478261 where you refuse to present the reasoning behind your opinion when it was scrutinized, saying rather that opinions don't have to be based on reason, even if they are voiced as if they valid rebuttals. Yes the anatomical origin of foxpoops opinions... brilliant, could not have said it better myself.

Nobody is going to say you are not capable of being entertaining. Still though a vile vixen and unfathomable choice as a merit fountain by theymos who seems totally oblivious to the fact your merits are blatantly cycled on political grounds to the other DT cyclers, i mean you would think he would get the idea after all those nice avatars you see around the place..

I was actually looking for the first agent foxpoop appearance... the one where you found it impossible to believe if someone grabbed your phone on a bus you would demand they return it else you would go to the cops... but suggested the most crazy alternative as the most probable action in that scenario . Like leaping through the bus window or something and putting a reward out for it but hoping the cops didnt see it or you would be in shit hahaha... I remember loving it anyway. How can one stay away from this place for too long. We hear you are VERY DISOBEDIENT, you have been ordered not to reply to us by other DT members and even mods, but yet you can not resist us can you. Then again we do have the odd sneaky peak at that tail swishing gif now and then. Hard not to.
 

Interesting post. What do you mean caught making changes to your signature? How could he make changes to YOUR signature?

This is why timelord is better than most DT members. The guy is simply a wrecking machine regardless of who you are. Totally an asshole but an asshole to everyone equally. This is a step up from the colluding scum on dt currently. I say get him on there although one of our friends will likely not be so keen. Still got to stir things up somehow.

Seems some others are starting to wake up now. YES MORONS this is an issue with yahoo he and ALL campaign managers NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE for their own actions. If they kick you off for being financially high risk (not trustworthy) then they better be able to back that up, and better have NO OTHER people on there that are AS HIGH OR HIGHER RISK or else they are corrupt and need removing.

Got to LOVE how the DT's all come here DEMANDING the op jump through hoops whilst giving their DT pal nutildah a free pass with no questions asked.

http://web.archive.org/web/20190704162438/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.0

did his password change?, why has he gone from nem stake holder and early dash adopter to begging for 0.02btc loans??

Clear evidence and yet free pass no hoops to jump through to prove anything.

The pharmacist says I can be sneaky and devious and use a sock puppet account like HugeBlackWoman to spam two sigs before I got busted and that = DT position, and chipmixer entry NO QUESTIONS from darkstar??

Read all about him and the others here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.0


The pharmacist says ...they notice you start speaking a different language = NEGATIVE TRUST NO MORE SIGS

This forums default trust bunch are a joke. Start to wake up and form a union before it is too late.

THEY can do anything they want and remain on DT and have all the best signatures right? scamming, extorting, account selling, trust abuse ?

How about you all enforce the same standards on all members?

Veleor are you investigating nutildah? or how about tman for auction scamming? here have some help from us.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.0

trust abuse must be stopped.

Love how direwolf supports tmans tourettes syndrome and thinks it is brilliant and that tman (who is clearly retarded) is some kind of poetic genius and his compulsive swearing and sexual deviance is great, however it is negative in this guys correct and understandable indignation.

Direposting assfeltching burger flipping dreg that he is.

LOL SO SCAMMER.. you refuse to explain your reasoning hey, because we would pull it and you apart ( and enjoy doing so) ??. So you just admit you are selectively enforcing your own made up rules for yourself and your alts/pals/ colluders then.  What a chicken shit.

But theymos asked over 100 people to black list you? seems unrealistic to believe you have wormed your way back into the good books already.

Bring your local rules, they only work in rep, so you will be marooned here or else you will face my on topic and relevant posts where ever and whenever the fuck I WANT.  Meta is my own board now. I stay on topic and relevant and destroy the scammers and scammer supporters that were enjoying free reign there lecturing others and asking for ways to punish deed far less evil than their own. LOL

Hide behind your local rules, if they do not work go full self moderated haha

Start a flag for nutildah the account seller  http://web.archive.org/web/20190704162438/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.0

or else this thread will be used as ANOTHER example of your double standards and collusion. Get it scammer?? Get on with it.

The best part is that you claim you will oppose a flag for nutildahs account selling  -- hahahahah SCUMBAG COLLUDING SCAMMER.  Wants to punish others when there is less compelling evidence in their case. How is this piece of shit on DT.