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901  Economy / Reputation / Re: @hilarous on: May 02, 2019, 02:53:50 PM
Thule I would love to take a massive shit in your breakfast

Another classic post from the person who claims other persons presentation of observable instances are proof they have mental issues.
What a brilliant choice for merit source and DT.
What? you doubt his 500 merits in a few days to rise from hero to legend(ary fool) were legit?
This though is likely one of his best original thought inspiring posts.
This is not trolling apparently. Only presenting observable events they want to remain hidden is trolling.


@thenewnobody

Can't you just send him a PM instead of continously poluting the forum with your childish nagging?

Can you not keep your nose out of business that does not concern you ?

PUBLIC and TRANSPARENT analysis is the way to ensure fair and equal treatment for all members.

In future why do you not PM thule your humble requests instead of derailing his threads?

We fully agree that ALL members including mods or even the board top tier admin should be able to present observable instances that demonstrate their statements have any grounding or truth. We also feel that hilarious and co needs to be far less biased and far more impartial in MANY ways.

@yoshiebot

How is this 3rd world ghetto bot still posting here? What is this garbled dirt it spews out everywhere?

@ultraelite

not worth a reply

@thule

we have noted similar behavior from this specific mod. We call into question his objectivity and impartiality not to mention his capacity to even discern "rubbish" posts from posts of extreme value. When called to present evidence of certain claims he refused to do so. There is a strong pattern here with false accusations and distinct lack of evidence to support them (as would be the case with false accusations)
902  Economy / Reputation / Re: Trust Sytem or trusted member list Must Be Removed? on: May 02, 2019, 11:03:14 AM
Note that olcaytu2005 is banned on his request.
That is a very odd request after everything that's been going on.

Ah, now that the the master has spoken will it run away?

There is never any running away on our part. Never use your own natural behaviors as a basis to speculate on the behaviors of the honest and upright members here. ANYTIME you want to debate with us one on one your past here you are more than welcome to do so. Reply yes or no now or just run away. Remember the extensive arguments you had and lost in the past with cryptohunter. Remember the 2 billion dollar lies you tried to push down investors throats when you had bags of dirtcoins? You said you were new then and had changed your ways since then. We now realize you have not changed at all LaudaM.

Our response to theymos will remain as it always shall be. We disagree with parts but are fully open to public debate on his opinions.
Regardless of which we still believe theymos is far more fair than you and your goons. Except he will not debate his opinions. He gives them and it is final in his own mind. That is the end of it.

We opened a thread for theymos alone to come and discuss things with us. Not to be derailed and destroyed by false claims from you and your goons. You should be struck off from this forum for all of the dishonest things you have done.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138500.0


EDIT - it seems they deleted that thread. We call for presentation of these lies cryptohunter was spreading after his red trust? we doubt this is true since cryptohunter repeatedly challenged the entire meta board to present any incorrect information he had posted and they failed to bring 1 instance. We also doubt that ANY person can have a more valid claim of trust abuse or a broken trust system than a scammer and liar giving red trust to an honest member for them suggesting they would encourage others to review their post history after repeated lies and groundless attacks from the trust abuser.  That is the inverse of what red trust is for. So we cast in to doubt that part of theymos's post also.  It seems theymos is lacking the knowledge of the entire situation or is misrepresenting what took place.

903  Economy / Reputation / Re: Trust Sytem Must Be Removed on: May 01, 2019, 11:12:26 PM
Bounty managers never encourage poeple to give money to ICOs. Everyone do their search and invest if they like. I never saw if any bounty manager said like that Hey Everyone please buy this token. Did you see? I havent
More lies from this scum
Hello everyone, pre sale is ongoing. Do not miss out 40% discount.


The reader should be made aware that marlboroza is not at all worried about lies when his friend lauda tells them. Example when lauda was claiming that he was on the xcoin launch and there was not instamine LOL

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131477.msg50628003#msg50628003

that entire thread was the reason for the majority of our own red trust. They simply do not like observable events that demonstrate they are untrustworthy being brought up in public.

You want weapons to crush this bunch? read all of cryptohunters previous postings on them. They use the trust system to eliminate whistle blowers and their COMPETITION in sig campaigns/managers and escrows.
904  Economy / Reputation / Re: Trust Sytem or trusted member list Must Be Removed? on: May 01, 2019, 10:56:52 PM
Everyone sees that there is a trusted members gang in this forum. They are not trusted. One of them(Lauda) is a thief and abuse trust system with her puppets like malbroza, suchmoon etc. etc. they have hundreds of alt accounts. In this world, no one is trusted.


They just attack whoever they want. Abusing everything. They have trust power and they suppose they are the owner of bitcointalk.

Let's talk.


Trust System must be removed?? or maybe trusted member list must be removed?? everyone should choose their trusted member list?

We fully agree with you. Observable liars, scammers, probable extortionists and those employing shady escrow dealings such as lauda and his group of shady friends have no place on a trust system.

We suggest that you research these trust abusers, find their observable dirty past historical behaviors and keep reminding them of these constantly whilst remaining on topic and relevant.

You could locate either cryptohunter or thule and look at their sig banners. In there are just "some" of their observable untrustworthy behaviors. Cryptohunter has also numerous times presented the observable events they most want to remain hidden.

He seems to have been prevented from posting or has just taken a break. We have decided to dedicate some of our time to continue his fight whilst he is away.

Meta board is a PRIME place to post about this, but you would need to keep it general or your posts will be moved to the rep section.
They will likely try to get you banned though so you will need to take care to remain within the board rules.

There are many others here that feel the same way about the abused and broken trust system as you do. Most are not scammers but have been trust abused and given a scam tag.
Don't give up.

905  Economy / Reputation / Re: calling out The-One-Above-All/Cryptocunter and co. on: May 01, 2019, 01:13:25 PM
~snip

you fail the challenge on 1st attempt, you had 2 fucking rules, 2 rules and you cant even manage that - proof you are a window licking arse who deserves to be followed by me calling you a prick at every opportunity

One point, one paragraph and no tangents Into Lauda or anyone else whilst you debate with me

you cant do it can you? you fail.. merits? I get them because I am funny and people enjoy my posts, I am not a legendary poster through my technical bitcoin knowledge or in depth reviews of products and services. Unlike yourself people enjoy reading my posts. my Evidence of this is my ranking on the merit list and my inclusion on DT.

You are NOT a legend poster in any conceivable way. You do not have the capacity to produce output worthy of merit at all. You have failed to present 10 of you best posts for our analysis. The reason is you know they are all garbage, and we will tear them to pieces in public.

Your posts are fun  in that you likely make others feel good about themselves. People tend to laugh at persons like yourself but feel a little guilty afterwards.

You have ZERO achievements here since you joined?  where are they? NOWHERE...

You seem to have tried to SCAM people by misleading them in an auction you ran via a proxy member. So now you are a CONMAN too it seems.

Feedback by one of the members of highest repute here ognasty

"TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931778.msg19286369#msg19286369

Admission it was his auction:
"Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.msg19349060#msg19349060

He also claimed I was trying to "pretend" my casascius coins were loaded: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945817.0

He then sent BTC to my publicly known address unsolicited and claimed I was trying to self escrow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946305.0

I don't trust this user, and his behavior on this forum in the time period from 6/2/17-6/4/17 should make that clear to anyone."


You also looks as it you tried to extort members in a very serious extortion scheme.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0


You would seriously expect us to conform to any "rules" that such an observable low functioning untrustworthy scum bag such as yourself could think of?

There is nothing that we wish to debate that you could participate in at a level that would make it useful.

What else is there to say or debate with the lowest dog here Tman. As we have stated you will be able to embarrass yourself in our important thread that we will start, when we are ready, in response to suchmoons own post.

You will have your own rep thread soon so you may visit that to "debate" with us your part in the extortion and conman like actions of that proxy auction.
906  Other / Meta / Re: THEYMOS GIVES NEW MANDATE TO DT MEMBERS - will they take heed?????????????????? on: May 01, 2019, 12:50:24 PM
Q: What 'DO' you and a broken record have in common notildah?

A. You're both worth way less that 0.02BTC.  

Meh.... My joke was still better.

Look at you CH: feigning a ban and giving your alt a preposterously pretentious name... Are you trying to test the limits of how far you can possibly alienate yourself from this forum while still remaining a member?

Perhaps the funniest part is you now refer to yourself as "we"; you are so desperate to have somebody on your side you have invented fictitious joint account holders. The totality of your schism between fantasy and reality is nearing completion.

At least you'll be remembered as one of the biggest nutjobs to ever infest the forum's pages, which actually is a pretty impressive feat.

But you are a running joke? someone who defines themselves and EVIL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134507.msg50719875#msg50719875

I mean someone defining themselves as EVIL is the NUTjob here clearly NUTildah.

Hilarious and co the most biased mod on this board seems to be giving merits to OFF TOPIC and garbage posts that I have reported for deletion. That are based on the speculation and guesswork of EVIL members.

This mod refuses to delete posts that we correctly report as being off topic but deletes our own ON TOPIC posts when he feels like hiding the truth about himself and his pals. These off topic speculations regarding POSSIBLE alts of members are not on topic.

What an observable mass of dirty dogs have infiltrated this board in positions of trust and control. Disgusting.

The OLD nutildah seemed to be less approving of the hilarious example of an impartial mod.


Fixed. I've still yet to see any proof of accounts being sold to be used for 'mass propganda'.

Who cares what the person is gonna do with the account? Whatever it is, it is BULLSHIT because they are pretending to be a different person. This makes them a liar, an impostor, a bullshitter.

And here you are a staff member defending this behavior.

You guys are greedy beyond belief. What would Satoshi say if he read about this? I can't help but think he would say you destroyed the original intention of his forum and turned it into a breeding ground for scum and villainy.


Then nutildah decides to sell his own account. SCUM AND VILLAIN!! the pair of them, and their pals.

We will gladly be alienated from these types. We don't feel it appropriate that you cast the rest of the "community" in with the observably corrupt and dirty.

Merit is a fucking joke. Pick the most misleading shitposts in any serious thread debating changes for the betterment of this forum, and you will usually locate the posts with the most merits. Great system. 
907  Other / Meta / Re: THEYMOS GIVES NEW MANDATE TO DT MEMBERS - will they take heed?????????????????? on: April 30, 2019, 02:57:27 PM
Most of the DT members gave stupid feedbacks,but theymos doesnt even care which is why this forum has decreasing number of activities and traffics what a shame! only those abusive DT members are making a lot of posts  that are mostly about the forum,but technically about blockchain? nah..

Look Thule: I have thousands of posts about bitcoin and the blockchain whereas every single post of yours with this alt account is in Meta or Reputation. So what is your point exactly?

It seems to be the same handful of whiners continuing to create alt accounts to make it appear they are greater in number than they actually are.

You or the person you purchased this account from? you have 1000's of posts about blockchain over the the years but need now to beg for 0.02btc loans?

Handful of people that stand up to double standards like your clear double standards of saying people should have red trust in 2014 because you believed it increased the probability of scamming. Then in 2016 you decided to facilitate scamming yourself by trying to sell or selling your account? thankfully we have a handful of people pushing for fair treatment.

Please don't seek to lecture others and stay on topic in my thread.  Also please present clear evidence it is thule because let us face it why should we believe a word you say?

Q: What you and a broken record have in common?

A. You both suck.

Here we observe the merit source TMAN ( a great selection, if you want to guarantee the metric is super misleading) using merit to reward an observable double standards untrustworthy account seller when he accuses the whistle blower of being negative for mentioning it. Sorry guys. The merit abuse and politics that it enforces are crystal clear.  I mean the dumb fool notildah can not even correctly present the "joke" 

Q: What 'DO' you and a broken record have in common notildah?

A. You're both worth way less that 0.02BTC. 

Only people that have watched notildah begging for 0.02btc loans will know this, although most likely suspected it was the case.  Although, he is now sig spamming rather frequently his gambling sig. So with careful saving and a meager existence, who knows.



908  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar who abuses the trust network to cover his lies. on: April 30, 2019, 02:46:23 PM
Interesting enough, once I did put it on a .com, OG wanted free (nastymining shares) advertising for his scam.  :/

This moron is still spreading lies...  Usually, once someone has proved you're a liar, you stop lying.  Vod on the other hand is a special sort of stupid.

They may stop lying about that specific thing to the people made aware it was a lie. They usually continue to lie on all other matters where they find it beneficial. Like scammers, they never miss a scamming opportunity they THINK they can get away with.
909  Economy / Reputation / Re: calling out The-One-Above-All/Cryptocunter and co. on: April 30, 2019, 02:39:05 PM
~snip~

not being a dick as I like you - but read the fucking rules you dick! please delete your post bud.. you will get your turn in time.

For now its an observable fact that I am 21000% better than cryptohunter in every positive way possible, it is also a fact that Cryptohunter cannot face me in a verbal one on one.. no diatribe, no repetition, no off topic.

come on cryptocunt with your smelly saggy vagina and tits... Fight me  bitch!


Cryptohunter is likely enjoying his vacation or, likely enjoying some standard of life neither you or your low life family have any chance of experiencing.

I will be starting my own suchmoon + entire meta board challenge thread in "META" when I am ready. This one has already started out as a farce. TMAN and his mother obviously have a strange and very unhygienic relationship which seems to have left him in a bit of a state.   Let's await my sensible and important meta board challenge thread in the near future.

Now let's be serious. We do not have too much time to waste of Tuffman here (or his deviant familys sexually ingrained damage). He does not have the capacity for a debate, as we have witnessed many times before. So let's let the slightly smarter of gang do the talking. You get back to cleaning laudas dog kennel out.

Suchmoon can be of middling interest and can at least present some specious argument before self debunking them, and there are a few semi smarter others that can be fun to discuss with for a while until they usual vanish or say crazy things. Tman can try to assist you all but we know he's just an embarrassment who is rolled out as a last resort to kill the readers interest in any thread once you have all lost the debate, unless the readers wish to understand the very wrong things his parents have likely subjected him to; let's be honest nobody wants to go there. It is unfair to revel in the obvious misfortune of others however much we wish to.

We shall start it. It will be called the meta board challenge. We are very pleased that suchmoon suggested it. Although we do have our doubts as to if she will keep to her word.

If you insist on entertaining us with a solo performance here. You can start by presenting your top 10 best original thought provoking posts for us to analyse, and see how you obtained such a vast bag of merits. We will be as kind as we can.

We hear you were one of the fastest to accumulate cycled merits? this will be something to look into in the future for sure. We find it hard to believe you have the capacity to make merit worthy net positive contributions at all. Perhaps the 10 post challenge will demonstrate you are clearly deserving or NOT.
910  Other / Meta / Re: THEYMOS GIVES NEW MANDATE TO DT MEMBERS - will they take heed?????????????????? on: April 30, 2019, 10:32:22 AM
Most of the DT members gave stupid feedbacks,but theymos doesnt even care which is why this forum has decreasing number of activities and traffics what a shame! only those abusive DT members are making a lot of posts  that are mostly about the forum,but technically about blockchain? nah..

Look Thule: I have thousands of posts about bitcoin and the blockchain whereas every single post of yours with this alt account is in Meta or Reputation. So what is your point exactly?

It seems to be the same handful of whiners continuing to create alt accounts to make it appear they are greater in number than they actually are.

You or the person you purchased this account from? you have 1000's of posts about blockchain over the the years but need now to beg for 0.02btc loans?

Handful of people that stand up to double standards like your clear double standards of saying people should have red trust in 2014 because you believed it increased the probability of scamming. Then in 2016 you decided to facilitate scamming yourself by trying to sell or selling your account? thankfully we have a handful of people pushing for fair treatment.

Please don't seek to lecture others and stay on topic in my thread.  Also please present clear evidence it is thule because let us face it why should we believe a word you say?
911  Economy / Reputation / Re: OGnasty removing the scam tags from a scammer? if they remove his tags ?? on: April 30, 2019, 09:54:37 AM

Lauda removed my rating, and I then gave Lauda an ultimatum if my forgiveness is to be earned.  Lauda chose to make a promise and I will hold Lauda to that promise.  I believe this was the best way to eliminate questionable actions moving forward.  If I am proven wrong, changes will be made.  I think after so many years, a new approach might be beneficial to everyone.

OGnasty removed his rating towards Lauda so he wouldn't be restricted from future DT1 membership - it has nothing to do with peace or control of Lauda.  It was out of his control.

Unless you want everyone believe that this wave of forgiveness just suddenly was created by you?  OG seems to be the only one receiving punishment and still making it look like he is the good guy.

 Wink
Are you saying theymos was threatening to blacklist OgN from DT1 if he didn’t remove his negative rating?



That would we far more worrying. The warden of the board insisting that legitimate scam tags of dangerous scammers be removed. I very much doubt that would be the case. A direct answer from OGnasty would be useful.

Surely removing an observable scammer from DT would be in the boards best interest rather than insisting we leave the board vulnerable to the scammers actions under the guise of them being VERY 300+ GREEN trustworthy.

This entire bogus argument that we need need to shelter scammers on DT1 UNDER THE GUISE OF  honest members to have peace is madness. Just boot them off DT and blacklist them. How desperate is this board for honest members ?

Did theymos directly ask you to remove a legitimate scam tag from a scammer Ognasty? yes or no?

The argument that rather than leave 3 legitimate scam tags for persons that scammed other members (if that is true) is more risky for the board than making sure none of the 3 scammers has a legitimate scam tag is also bogus. That makes zero sense. The board is surely not so desperate that we NEED scammers in positions of trust?  What sort of community are we trying to create here?  

Scammers = scammers
Honest members = honest members

there is no switching and swapping that around for the " greater good", that is a bogus argument.

What is the truth here?  did some DT members decide to trade red trust removal or did theymos INSIST DT members remove legitimate scam tags rather than rid DT of observable dangerous scammers?

I am guessing it was option 1. Because if it was option 2 that is clearly a LOT more worrying. Why would Theymos go to those lengths to retain an observable dirt bag like Lauda on DT1?  makes zero sense? surely just blacklist that filthy scammer and anyone supporting him in scams and start populating DT with honest members??

Surely OG you can see the folly of this argument for "peace". The entire point of DT is they disrupt PEACE if they see a scammer until there is fair warning the person is a scammer. That is the responsibility of DT1.

This is now the DIS TRUST 1 list is it?  where scammers above the rules get to and do what they want? any action against them is disrupting the peace?

This is why all discussions should be transparent. Regarding scammers and on thread. There should be no back room deals for certain scammers and not others.

The entire community should be consulted on pro's and con's of removing scammers tags, since it effects every member here.

OG you must clearly see that this move will haunt you? your own enemies (not us, we feel you are an honest victim here) will always seek to use this action against you in future. It is a clearly bogus reason to remove scam tags and will be brought up forever by those who will use it to discredit your word and your consistency. It will be double standards to add any tag for anyone if you remove laudas tags. You will be crammed in a corner forever where this will be thrown in your face. The actions are understandable for sure, but sometimes it is better to be cast out of a dirty system than it is accepted into it by dubious actions. Remember, this is being recorded in the history of the early days of bitcoin. Don't capitulate under these circumstances.

We do not wish to cause problems here we simply want a transparent and fair environment where all members are treated equally.

If all scammers get pardoned for saying they will not do it again (even after multiple instances of lying and scamming) then the board will be in a far worse place. Would you not agree? if you agree with that, then you will see that it is unfair to pardon some, and not others. That would seem undeniable. MULTIPLE INSTANCES  keep in mind.

912  Other / Meta / Re: CORRUPT MODERATION - WHEN WILL IT STOP??? Clear example of one sided mods on: April 29, 2019, 12:51:37 PM
Way too much energy wasted on this delusional mental patient ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.






See how they run when you put the real spotlight on them. Smiley

They don't like open challenges?

Run away Smiley

You couldn’t challenge a retarded midget lesbian dwarf to a beauty contest. What the fuck makes you think you are more Inteligent than a shit ton of people who got into BTC before you?

Listen my little spastic homeless fuck. I prove that you are a cunt your post above proves you are cryptohunter as well ducky

Just hit the ignore button. All cryptohunter does is repeat the same thing over and over again: Writes a boring dialogue, use "observable"/"proven" at least 15 times, use his own quotes as "evidence". He could use his time/energy on being productive but insteads he chooses to write posts nobody reads, making his entire day revolve around negativity and remain a shanty town inhabitant.

Starts with a false allegation.

Thenewnobody135246 seems to have ran away from our challenges.  Pops up now to save a low function fool like TMAN from the embarrassment of his own posts filled with swearing and graphic sexual content derived from his deviant family's explicit behaviors we expect. Not to mention the classic question that made us all laugh here.

To help him avoid bumping into the same boring observable truths that clearly demonstrate they are all untrustworthy colluding scum that is impossible to deny.

How about the challenges we set you? Thenewnonachiever135246 ?  You seem to have wimped out, ran off and hidden away?  take us off ignore and meet us in open debate. Now take another look at the challenges and prove us wrong. We are waiting and smiling.

To push for a transparent and fair environment for all, where we all have equal opportunity, is not boring, it is not negative, it is the most net positive posting history since the inception of the board. Right when the board needs it the very most.

Why do you fight against the formation of a fair and transparent environment for all members? that is the real question. All we ask is the SAME rules be enforced for ALL persons. Scammers are labelled scammers and the honest members who present the truth are, yep, you guessed it : Honest members. Not too hard to understand is it?
913  Other / Meta / Re: Tracking the Trust System's Stupid Shit on: April 29, 2019, 10:13:57 AM
minifrij, your rating is a joke, and your constant removal/replacing of it because you think you’re special and your ratings should matter more than others show the delusions are all on your side buddy.

How many times have you added / removed Lauda from your abusive trust list, scammer?  Smiley

Your obvious trolling is obvious. I'm a fool for thinking you could ever have the humility to admit you were wrong.

He never will remove anyone willingly.  He will just lie about it.  Sad

The trust systems stupid shit = The trust system . Or rather the merit system which is now also the trust system.

What VOD says may be true in part, but it is not OGnasty's fault. I blame THEYMOS for this absolute mess. He sat on his hands for months watching OBSERVABLY untrustworthy scammers and liars gang up and gradually spoil the trust of  honest members that never scammed any person here. To the point now that a LARGE sign appears at the top of the page saying this thread is started by a SCAMMER? Also VOD is observably guilty of the same thing. VOD admits lauda or atriz have deserved red trust before but says he dare not give them red trust because he can not do so without them painting him red and ruining his own account. That is how it read to us anyway. So no double standards here VOD. The trust systems design prevents scammers getting tagged in some instances. Or forces removal of their tags once they get enough leverage on you. This is the problem with allowing scammers and their ass lickers on to DT1.

but this latest drama with Lauda has opened my eyes a bit...

Yeah, I've distanced myself with her.  What can you do?  You speak out and you get negative trust...

How do I defriend Lauda without getting negative trust from her and ruining five years?

Do you think it’s acceptable that Lauda hasn’t tagged aTriz yet? Do you think there is any reason why everyone shouldn’t tag aTriz for what he did?

Let me answer that this way - how can I leave negative trust for either of them without ruining my account?

As for your account being ruined if you tag one of them, I’m well aware. I guess the difference is that I do what I feel is right regardless of how it may effect me, and you appear to be having your true opinions silenced out of fear. So forgive me if I take your criticisms with a grain of salt.


Ognasty runs a business , he is likely responsible for others investments. He is trapped by these broken and shitty merit and trust systems and those that self enabled their own entrenchment in the DT network via the observably gamed and broken metric of the subjective misleading merit system.

So faced with being BRANDED a scammer and risking the investments of others by an observable bunch of scammers and liars and their ever growing bunch of "merit powered up" ass lickers and loyal dogs. I guess his only choice was to capitulate and say fuck it under these pseudo decentralized gamed systems with no single point of accountability, I can not beat them so I must join with them or appear to join with them for now.

That was perhaps the wise play with investors concerned, but it certainly now has left him open to criticism. One simply does not go from being adamant that a member is "filthy dirty" with observable multiple instances of lying, scamming, extortion, trust abuse, and shady escrow dealings to saying " oh well they said they will not do anything like that again" so I decided to leave the entire community vulnerable to WHEN they do do it again? rock and a hard place comes to mind. Do we believe ognasty believes Lauda is safe to the community and is not a scammer FUCK NO!!

POOR move by OgNasty. But what else could the poor wretch do?  Theymos was seemingly happy for months to watch OG's account get ruined in the name of some strange experiment in pseudo decentralizing trust whilst essentially handing it over to OBSERVABLY dirty and treacherous scum and their supporters that are only entrenching themselves deeper daily.  Someone that is guilty of ALL of those scamming, extorting, lying, shady escrow, flagrant trust abuse is glowing 300 green POSTIVE trust. WTF is this board doing? It is setting members up to GET SCAMMED.  

How many more times could OGnasty have indirectly pleaded for help from Theymos and complained that DT was infested with observably corrupt and scamming dirt bags??? He is partially to blame too. Being too much of an ass kisser to authority does not help authority "oh perhaps it will improve" "oh perhaps he has his own reasons"  "perhaps this is early teething problems" . It fails to help highlight obvious flaws. The creator of any system wants to give their systems a chance to work and will be unrealistic regarding its performance and potential. Better to hit them with the truth. Those systems can never work as they are and are completely dangerous and misleading and crush free speech with no single point of accountability. "meh all my buddies are getting away with it I will get away with it too" then if questioned we all stick together and win through force of numbers?? theymos won't do anything about it except make another post we can ignore. Lauda reads it and says fuck off. I will red trust who I like with no evidence other than they tried to mention things I want to remain hidden. LOL : "I have no need then to change ANY of my ratings" Smiley

Anyone telling the truth and presenting these observable instances is immediately painted red as a "scammer"??

Man up Theymos, tell these OBSERVABLE dirt bags : red trust only scammers and those you can present a STRONG case have scammed or intend to scam or you with be BLACKLISTED immediately.  Linking merit to trust was the most crazy thing I have witnessed on this board. You would have to have rocks in your head to think that was the single metric to represent trust here. I mean look at the results so far? people who greedily give all the merits to each other and all spamming gambling and mixing sigs for max payout are obviously the most trustworthy real enthusiasts who care about the community and not just self enriching themselves?? makes perfect sense OR DOES IT?

Theymos is ultimately responsible as the warden of this board and his decentralized experiment has FAILED. Merit is the carrot , red trust is the stick to create an echo chamber and a place for them to act as they wish with impunity . BOTH carrot and stick  mostly controlled by the same group of observable liars, scammers, trust abusers, and their supporters , total collusion no decentralization. BYE BYE free speech. The financial incentive to abuse the fragile systems is clear.

Everyone will eventually face the same choice as OGnasty you can not currently beat them they control the keys to DT1 via merit allocation which is subjective and can not be questioned, join with them for merits, join with them for paid2post, for trading, for an easy life, maybe even be one of their supporters on DT even if you only been here a few months if you really ass kiss and demonstrate you will back their actions,  Or see your account ruined, kiss goodbye to merits, paid2post and trading and an easy life here.

The only people that are free to speak the truth are those that don't care too much for red trust, no paid2post, no trading, no merits and a tough time here. Those are few and far between if any.

I am not anti theymos in that we feel he is not intentionally destroying the boards free speech. I am anti theymos's systems merit and DT creations. The long game is too long, the start was too poor. You start off on that fucked trajectory there is no pulling it back for a LONG time. DT selection process could work better if there was a more sensible metric or combination of metrics to base it on. Merit is broken and beyond help. Restrict it to snr rank and below after that decouple it from rank.

It is like a reasonably "fair" dictator saying " for the good of my kingdom I will now give over power to the very most observably dishonest, untrustworthy and greedy generals , they are free to select only those they feel best suited to help them govern you all, bye bye " err yes btw " generals please be good"  IF he had given power to his more fair and honest generals then perhaps things could have gone better. Still people will devolve to greed and self interest within a certain time frame regardless.

When you have one of the worst and most observably dangerous members glowing 300 green and honest members glowing -2000 red+ you know you fucked up.

Ognasty is not a scammer but he was forced into bed with one now and most others will red will gladly capitulate to get rid of "their own" red trust.  Soon only we willl remain honest and loyal to satoshi's vision. Pushing for transparent,fair and equal treatment of all members, where scammers are correctly called scammers and honest members are correctly recognized as honest members. We like red trust from abusers it serves our purpose. We like the hate of scammers,liars, extortionists and their ass kissers.
914  Economy / Reputation / Re: OGnasty removing the scam tags from a scammer? if they remove his tags ?? on: April 29, 2019, 07:36:58 AM
I did not remove the tag because Lauda removed mine. I stopped reading after that.


So you both had a chat and at the end you BOTH removed each others scam tags?  him removing yours was not part of the deal?

Let's say that anyone could possibly believe that if lauda left your scam tag you would still remove yours?

How about you answer why in light of the numerous observable instances of lying, scamming, extorting, shady escrow, and flagrant trust abuses against many?  how a simple " i won't do it again"  is enough that you feel it is responsible and ethical for you to place the entire board at risk from a person with such a track record?

You do understand to many it will appear you sold out here and that it will be a constant stain on your reputation. It certainly would appear that you have made a deal with the devil here.

It is impossible for someone to be that SURE that lauda et al are untrustworthy scum then on the mere word of that untrustworthy scum suddenly decide in 1 conversation ( one in which they removed your scam tags that you know were trust abuse anyway) they are now trustworthy and you feel they deserve to shine with glowing green trust?  

Nobody just takes the word of someone with so many instances of observable lies, scamming, trust abuse, extortion, and shady escrow they will not do it again. This is ridiculous.

You got bored of waiting for Theymos to undo their abuse, you realize they are entrenched within the broken and gamed systems and decided if you can not beat them you will join them. I don't mean you will join in scamming and lying with them but you decided to no longer fight against them. Poor move.

This sets a precedent that ANYONE can say they will not do it again after multiple observable attempts to fuck people over and it is all okay again. If Lauda has no scam tag nobody should have a scam tag.

915  Other / Meta / Re: CORRUPT MODERATION - WHEN WILL IT STOP??? Clear example of one sided mods on: April 28, 2019, 05:55:25 PM
Way too much energy wasted on this delusional mental patient ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.






See how they run when you put the real spotlight on them. Smiley

They don't like open challenges?

Run away Smiley

You couldn’t challenge a retarded midget lesbian dwarf to a beauty contest. What the fuck makes you think you are more Inteligent than a shit ton of people who got into BTC before you?

Listen my little spastic homeless fuck. I prove that you are a cunt your post above proves you are cryptohunter as well ducky

With such overwhelming proof, how can we possibly laugh in your face. Do you not like the 3 little mice?

Sorry but please refrain from swearing and frothing at the mouth. I would not say that "getting into BTC" before me essentially guarantees they are smarter. Although I have doubts many got into btc before we did.  Now contain yourself, then you can have a go at the challenges I set the last idiot before he ran away. You're a funny guy Tman. Please entertain me further Smiley

"What the fuck makes you think you are more Inteligent than a shit ton of people who got into BTC before you? " TMAN - doh
916  Economy / Reputation / OGnasty removing the scam tags from a scammer? if they remove his tags ?? on: April 28, 2019, 05:42:06 PM
An observable scammer, liar, trust abuser and one implicated in extortion and shady escrow dealings where huge sums are unaccounted for LAUDA?? just gets a free pass from Ognasty now so long as they remove his own red tags?

Ognasty ONLY.

Ognasty's explanation.

"Addressing your concern, Lauda has given me their word that things like non-transparent escrows and extorting users in the name of investigations will not happen again."

This is interesting...You get to extort people and then say you will not do it again and that's it red tags removed?? okay.

How about the other solid observable instances of LAUDA lying for financial gain (scamming)?? Did you miss the evidence we presented 100x already? do you not notice his trust abuse?

You get to scam people then say: Yeah, I won't do it again, and now you are trustworthy? WTF is this place?

So let's leave the entire board vulnerable to a bunch of observable liars, scammers, trust abusers and general dirt bags so you can "hopefully" get in with them?  because they promised not to do it again after already looking to have pulled NUMEROUS shady stunts?

Ognasty it is on topic here so you are free to discuss it at length so we can understand why you feel it appropriate to remove legitimate scam tags from someone that has pulled NUMEROUS shady dealings and some confirmed observable lies, scamming and trust abuse?

If lauda does not deserve tags the NOBODY deserves tags.

 

I mean if you can not tag someone with all of this combined dirt on them and large scale financial issue especially like the escrow and the observable lies and scamming you will never be able to red trust anyone again it would seem.

Is it really ethical to expose the board to this kind of person when you are in full knowledge of what they are like?  forgive and forget fair enough but exposing the board and leaving members vulnerable is not ethical.

This is not to call into question Ognasty in terms of being untrustworthy financially speaking, however we would like to debate with him in public if it is ethical to leave the forum exposed to persons he has correctly recognized as very untrustworthy on numerous occasions?

We leave these here to demonstrate the issues here

but this latest drama with Lauda has opened my eyes a bit...

Yeah, I've distanced myself with her.  What can you do?  You speak out and you get negative trust...

How do I defriend Lauda without getting negative trust from her and ruining five years?

Do you think it’s acceptable that Lauda hasn’t tagged aTriz yet? Do you think there is any reason why everyone shouldn’t tag aTriz for what he did?

Let me answer that this way - how can I leave negative trust for either of them without ruining my account?

As for your account being ruined if you tag one of them, I’m well aware. I guess the difference is that I do what I feel is right regardless of how it may effect me, and you appear to be having your true opinions silenced out of fear. So forgive me if I take your criticisms with a grain of salt.






917  Other / Meta / Re: [Choose 1]Trade Forum accounts, or DT neg trust for trading accounts - banned on: April 28, 2019, 05:40:38 PM
If account selling was disallowed by the rules then we would hear no end of bitching that account trades should be left for moderators to punish and not red-tagged for.

all we need is 1 post from Theymos  "Account sales will not get you banned but DT members are against it and will red tag all buyers and sellers"

then we can all just quote it every time a new thread pops up moaning, not that 99.999% of these fools actually read the rules before posting, prime example was Cryptocunt who didn't know we could enforce local rules, didn't that punk ass bitch end up with a short ban for it?


(yes I used Punk ass bitch and it felt good)

Thanks for assisting us in demonstrating the mods upheld local rules for a trust abusing moron such as yourself against other honest members but ignore other members local rules. The entire board is corrupt.

However, 1 post from Theymos means nothing it seems. He posted ONLY scammers should get red tags but nobody gives a shit what he says and continues to tag for whistleblowing.

DdmrDdmr was correct.
918  Economy / Reputation / AdolfinWolf - false accusations - trust abuser. Untrustworthy. Plagiarist? on: April 28, 2019, 05:13:14 PM
We note AdolfinWolf some chipmixer sig spamming shit poster has been making false accusations and trust abusing our account.

We call him here here to answer for his actions.

We notice he copy and pasted nutildahs - FAKE red trust comment

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AdolfinWolf   2019-04-27   0.00000000      Alt of cryptohunter. Destructive, dishonest and defamatory user that should not be trusted. Harassing multiple DTs for months on end. Psychotic in their behavior.
LFC_Bitcoin   2019-04-27   0.00000000   Reference   Alt of cryptohunter. Destructive, dishonest and defamatory user that should not be trusted. Harassing multiple DTs for months on end. Psychotic in their behavior.
yogg   2019-04-27   0.00000000      Delusional troll ; spreading lies and harassing staff to enforce the rules he finds more suited for the forum.
nutildah   2019-04-27   0.00000000   Reference   Alt of cryptohunter. Destructive, dishonest and defamatory user that should not be trusted. Harassing multiple DTs for months on end. Psychotic in their behavior.
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This person did not even leave a reference A CLEAR example of trust abuse with zero truth behind it.

The person appears to be a sig spamming the same sig a lot of these trust abusers are.

We advise caution when dealing with AdolfinWolf, he likely will not even dare come to this thread to defend his TRUST ABUSE and LIES.

We would like to see proof of our scamming, or dishonesty any other of his dubious claims. Which he COPY AND PASTED from nutildah (who is very upset with us for exposing him as an account seller and VERY UNTRUSTWORTHY member)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134507.msg50719875#msg50719875

We had exposed him before and this is apparently dishonest of us, and defamation, also very psychotic behavior. We call it telling the truth and exposing clear double standards and evil behavior on his part Smiley

So AdolfinWolf, you could not provide a reference? so you will need to bring evidence here to substantiate your claims. We will wait for that untrustworthy member of bitcointalk AdolfinWolf to appear so we can rub his doggy nose in his own dirt.

919  Other / Meta / Re: [Choose 1]Trade Forum accounts, or DT neg trust for trading accounts - banned on: April 28, 2019, 04:59:37 PM
I’m not a fan of ambiguity. From that perspective, allowing account sales on the one hand, and red tagging them on the other seems to me like an unnecessary contradiction. It would be conceptually much clearer if those two elements were aligned: Either allow sells and don’t red tag them until some wrongdoing has been performed with the accounts at hand, or don’t allow them and give red-tagging all the legitimacy when it becomes highly suspected (with prove that, ultimately, should/could lead to the accounts being banned).

Currently, it seems like a baited situation, which brings no benefit to anyone.


This is the correct answer. Even more importantly, ALL members must be treated equally.
920  Other / Meta / Re: CORRUPT MODERATION - WHEN WILL IT STOP??? Clear example of one sided mods on: April 28, 2019, 04:22:28 PM
yoshie who? - sorry you post isn't clear,
Easy enough to provoke the emotions of a troll, with a super stupid idea, you feel.
with extraordinary post spamer, now you scream for yourself, don't care about your nonsense.
Your nature war.
Emotions of your character.
Spamer your habits.
Stupid babbling, that's your brain.

Sorry, I'm a little hooked on your troll.

The garbled word salad above, looks to be the output of malfunctioning pajeet bot. How can it have ever attained any merits? I can only assume any persons awarding it merit previously, have been account farmers and must be looked into.





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