This post is hilarious

1. the pharmacist was caught using a sneak socky puppet to racist TROLL for extra sig spam bucks under the sock puppet HugeBlackWoman - read about pharmacist here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17808231#msg17808231
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.0

DT, merit source, and chipmixer ( his greatest achievement here remember by his own words is getting on a highly paid sig campaign like chipmixer) what a bitcoin enthusiast that is here for the correct reasons LOL



2. He said we were BRUNO a few mins ago Not cryptohunter
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217241.msg53594933#msg53594933

3. again claiming it is all trolling, lies, nonsense, bullshit , defamation, then NOT GIVING ONE EXAMPLE of our posts that he can demonstrate are UNTRUE or incorrect.

LOL thanks HugeBlackWoman aka sneaky racist trolling sock puppet sig spammer. You gave us a laugh anyway.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217241.msg53594933#msg53594933

Can you provide THE EXAMPLES WE HAVE REQUESTED to corroborate your statements (trolling lies)

I mean NUTILDAH here claims we are trolling?? perhaps he thinks we are trolling about him??
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.0

I mean if he can demonstrate that or any other central points we have challenged him here about are incorrect or clearly debunked. WHY CAN HE NOT PRESENT THEM HERE??

Still not one person who can demonstrate one of our central points on the scammers in DT or their supporters or the systems that enable , entrench and reward them  ARE conclusively DEBUNKED or INCORRECT lacking in all value.

Come on guys. Don't just send in those with clear and undeniable clear examples of financially motivated wrong doing who are also low functioning to be cannon fodder here. This is cowardly.

HOW FUNNY is that that the we are accused of being the BIGGEST troll here spreading nonsense, bullshit, lies , defamation and yet NOBODY can present 1 not even 1. Example of those posts that are incorrect of debunked conclusively.

That DESTROYS your claims haha. I will miss this forum in a big way.

reporting for off topic and irrelevant just to demonstrate this board is broken when it gets a merit from the mods and marked bad...

thanks suchmoon.

Thats one girl that has learned her lesson about facing us in debate and getting OWNED hard, haha won't make that mistake will again will you. I was looking forward to some of your famous self debunking .

SEEMS like a sneaky weaponzing way to try and get people banned does it not LOL

When does he say telling the on topic truth and refuting lies being told about yourself means you get banned?

How about banning auction scammers and extortionists and self confessed trust abusers??

How about your stop begging for people to prevent the truth being exposed about you and your pals.

People can read the links we have provided. This is clearly on topic to defend against the FALSE narrative that you are they are trying to push on honest readers of this forum

Banning an account will never ban the truth. We hope even your tiny brain can understand this.

How dishonest can you get. Start a topic making false accusations about people and then claiming their truths about you and your motivations and pointing out that your claims are bogus are OFF TOPIC.

Hahaha  ECHO CHAMBER here we come.

BREAKING WHAT LOCAL RULES?? you all cry you can not ban people from defending claims against them remember THAT IS ABUSE you cry.

I clearly state the initial  post by tman the auction scammer and extortionist is motivated by him wanting to silence whistleblowing and also is it all completely false.

Sorry if that seems off topic or against the rules.

Here is your FINAL CHANCE GUYS. We shall likely NOT return at all again after the next 2 days. It is time to start enjoying ourselves (even more) . We have a lot of fun living ahead of us, and perhaps not even time enough to burn though the resources we have already accumulated here regardless of the lavish system we will choose to do it in. Thanks to theymos and this forum for that. No question we are grateful and appreciate this forum has and still is a great place for the most part. We wish many more our similar success.

Let's give you ALL one last opportunity to clearly demonstrate the lack of value, and TROLLING of our posts.

This is NOT just about US and YOU. This can be a useful thread to demonstrate clearly what is valuable and what is not valuable to the reader who seeks the true and correct information to form the optimal and best opinion and to educated themselves to the fullest potential.

It seems the fine DT, the mods, and even Theymos have determined we are boring trolls, who spew forth lies, a false information regarding the systems of control and the members they empower into positions of trust and the most lucrative positions here. Not only that, our claims that the systems of control and those gaming them are openly creating a 2 tier system that stifles free speech via the stick of trust abuse, and the carrot of merit (or merit starvation).

All you have to do is bring forth those central points we have made regarding those points mentioned above that have been debunked or demonstrated to be clearly untrue. Specifically about untrustworthy (in a serious and dangerous way explicitly having observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing in their past) being in positions of trust and abusing that trust. Also perhaps leveraging those very positions to endanger honest users.

You have nearly 2 days. After that time we can respond no more. It will be time to leave and do all of the things we want to try and experience whilst we are still in our youth.

We will not reply for sometime to allow you all to come forth with ANY and ALL examples you can provide here for our final analysis and scrutiny and for us to purge..

Let's try to refrain from swearing at each other and immediately trying to derail this thread. We will remain civil if others do.

Keep in mind, that we state that nobody has debunked a single central point regarding those aspects and neither has any clearly demonstrated how our posts are off topic or irrelevant at all when we call for scrutiny. ESPECIALLY considering what mods mark as bad when we report it. Like huge signs saying don't feed the troll or who who made this cunt bleed in response to an intial post that calls for system wide debate regarding observable instances that are independently verifiable and true. Then at times MERIT THEM lol.

Let's go guys. Else we leave with big smug smile that 50 or more of the "best" and most "trustworthy" posters of all of bitcointalk were just bitch slapped around by us for a year with NO ANSWER AT ALL to our central points that demonstrated they were corrupt scum that either were financially high risk or who would support those that clearly are, just to be part of their "group" and spam their sigs. I mean that is without the clear admissions of such by LFC and VOD claiming the system makes them support such dangerous individuals ..we can provide the evidence if you need reminding.

So lets go guys, trolling, bullshit, nonsense, zero value, should be banned, let's have the final show down. Bring your best case to substantiate your claims. This is a great system wide experiment, you just get to use our own account to demonstrate your opinions.

Let's get the party started. We have asked, requested and instructed time and time and time and time and time again for the evidence of all this incorrect and debunked pile of steaming lies and nonsense we keep spreading over your honest and upright names and what enables and entrenches your double standards abuse.

All we hear is silence??  Not one single example of any central point regarding any of those things you can demonstrate are untrue and incorrect after AN ENTIRE YEAR AND OVER 1000 opposition posts to you all??

Get your heads together here and get the part started. We will give it a couple of hours consideration before we fly out on the start of a very long and very expensive "vacation" in a day or so.

Let's get the party started........... or will it be a flop with NO examples provided by ANYONE AT ALL??? and we leave victorious and unchallenged.

So far it just sounds like you want to get people BANNED who dare expose observable instances of your financially motivated wrong doing or demonstrate you will support such people for your own self interest.

It seems fighting for transparent rules that ensure all members are treated equally is a very unpopular, trolling, zero value, concept haha.

That's a shame.

Read the initial post. I want to hear everyone opinion of this behavior. Which part about the part you quoted is confusing you.  Yogg said if you say " do x or else I will do y = extortion/blackmail" he did not say which one it was. He can clarify if he wants. We hope he will do so.
 
Was CH a blackmailer or extortionist for saying that he will ensure others know the truth regarding tmans admitted trust abuse

Was alice an blackmailer or extortionist for saying to bob she will go to the police if bob does not stop stealing her phone

Was tman an blackmailer or extortionist  here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206130.msg53238785#msg53238785

Was mosprognoz an extornist blackmailer as the example in this thread??

Why don't you give your opinion and also rank which is worse in terms of danger to this forum whilst you are at it??? then we can iron out your confusion and reach a sensible agreement here on the valid actions that should be taken in the BOARDS BEST INTERESTS not just a bunch of double standards scammers and scumbags.

THE READER NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE ALL OF THE LINKS POSTED FOR THEMSELVES

Tman does not have the brain capacity to Realize that until he or anyone here DEBUNKS our points that are often simply observable instances of his auction scamming or friends scamming and scammer supporting actions then you are DEMONSTRATING THEY ARE CLEARLY THE MOST VALUABLE HERE.  LOL

Read about tmans UNDENIABLE auction scamming and scammer supporting deeds here. Of course he wants us banned for presenting these TRUTHS that are of " no value " hahaha
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

Of course those observable instances of tmans auction scamming, extorting, scammer supporting are TROLLING, not valuable and reason to BAN us. Says tman LOL

Mean time Tmans great contributions to the forum are here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178098.0
Of course though only only swearing is allowed from him.

I mean he is the ONLY person on this forum to admit his own trust abuse LOL what a dumb shit.

Yep theymos quick ban those that present observable instances of scammers wrong doing and present observable instances on the suggestion of those scammers and trust abusers. This is a great strategy for bitcointalk.

It has come to our attention that chipmixer appears to be sponsoring MANY people on that are listed on this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.0

1./ Now keep in mind many of those do NOT deny or refute those observable instances presented there, because they are true

2. These same individuals all appear to be spreading lies and trolling us specifically. THEY REPEATEDLY CLAIMS that our posts that DETAIL those observable instances regarding them and their behaviors are untrue and NONSENSE they also claim that means we are trolling and should be banned.

I would like you to investigate this matter. They repeatedly make these FALSE claims that we have challenged them to present evidence of MANY TIMES and they run away and refuse to present the evidence??

This is spreading false and incorrect information repeatedly and meets the forums definition of trolling. What are you going to do about this.

I would like your answers to INCLUDE observable instances and examples to support any of the counter points you make.

Chipmixer seems to be the main sponsor and main motivator for the double standards trust abuse and 2 tier system that is springing up here.

Can you present here a transparent and clear set of rules that YOU can demonstrate that YOU as the chipmixer campaign manager  investigate personally to ensure CHIPMIXER is not being infiltrated by scammers and scammer supporters, trust abusers and trolls that will damage the reputation of chipmixer long term ??

I would like you to PERSONALLY investing the information presented in the dirty turds thread, and investigate those members that are continuously trolling and spreading false information on this forum.

Like we said. Please bring observable instances that demonstrate any claims we have made are bogus or untrue and WE WILL CHANGE THOSE AT ONCE. We only want to help you ensure chipmixer is not sponsoring some very dangerous scammer supporting trolls and liars here.

There are many FAR MORE HONEST members that do NOT have clear observable instances of UNTRUSTWORTHY behavior that are also capable of FAR better posting quality than you have on your chipmixer campaign.

Surely you want those that REALLY are the most trustworthy (lacking ANY form of documented untrustworthy behaviors) and those that can make the best posts right??? YOu are not simply going to claim at this stage that the OLD TRUST SYSTEM (famous for abuse to the extent we needed a new one, and is even now MORE open to abuse ) is the metric you use??? not that the moronic merit system is all you do to investigate the post quality and true value of members posts right???

We did not wish to embroil you in this BUT since you seem to be hiring a high % of trolls and scammer supporters and those observably guilty of other untrustworthy and unfair actions it seems best to warn you before chipmixer is blamed for the sponsoring a lot of members spreading false information and untrustworthy scum bags.

We await your explanations and reasoning accompanied with evidence that is independently verifiable. If you choose to not wish to become involved that is okay. We will ask chipmixer directly in the next thread if they like sponsoring these kind of members here.

Just because the systems of control are gamed by these types of manipulative and driven untrustworthy types does not mean you need to hire them does it??

Refer to the dirty turds thread and take into consideration only those with chipmixer sigs. If you need futher help focusing in on certain offenders just ask us.

I will populate this thread with chipmixer participants clearly untrustworthy and trolling transgressions as I have the time.

Dark star only or deleted

This persons is clearly a scammer supporting fucking retard. But the retardation has reached critical level now. It is time for us to clearly humiliate and degrade his broken little mind in public

This is an OPEN CHALLENGE TO o_e_l_e_o ONLY.  Everyone else will be deleted (if we want)


I mean the guy is a full on fucking retard. Let's take this thread for example. This pretty much sums up his low functioning spew he keep plastering EVERYWHERE OFF TOPIC AND IRRELEVANT . What's more it is TROLLING and spreading LIES. #

Come here o_e_l_e_o you fucking retard, we will smash you up so bad in here that you will be running away crying. OR YOU WILL SIMPLY DARE NOT EVEN COME HERE AND DEBATE.




HERE IS THE CHALLENGE

1/ Bring here and PRESENT NOW. ANY of our central points on the topics you claim are NONSENSE that you or ANYONE has debunked or demonstrate are untrue.

2/ Bring here the EXAMPLES Of topic and derailing posts that YOU can demonstrate are offtopic and derailing in the CONTEXT Of the posts you have made on our threads that are CLEARLY off topic and derailing.

3/ If you fail YOU HAVE BEEN TROLLING (presenting things as true that are incorrect and previously debunked) and spreading lies. Also acting in a double standards way claiming you do not need to be banned for derailing our threads but your FALSE claims are grounds we should be LOL

Get on it you drooling scammer supporting assfeltcher.

Watch how he either runs away , or we crush his fucking claims flat.

Hurry up dipshit, we are off on vacation soon and want to degrade you soon.

Chipmixer is soon going to need to explain WHY they are sponsoring many scammers supporters and trolls on this forum

These scum bags will do or say anything to keep spamming their chipmixer sigs.

Chipmixer seems to be sponsoring MOST of the dishonest, scammers supporting scum on this forum. That needs to be looked into in the future if that is still the case when we return.

Ahhhh nothing like giving out an early Monday morning head stomping to a cowardly piece of shit scammer supporter. Let's get started with your skull

1. Fun to see you have not tried and FAILED again to rebut the points we just carved in to you, and don't deny your post is off topic (so we need not really answer it but should just report it and have it removed, but since the scammy mods would more likely merit it and we prefer to leave it there as an example of your stupidity , then we shall).

2. Well done for acknowledging it is certainly an indefensible position mozprognoz has placed himself in. Although, I can't HELP BUT notice you do attempt to cast some doubt his wrong doing by stating " is it blackmail if he has already presented the most dangerous information" which of course does not mitigate the part where he says , he and his "team" lol will investigate it further and the "ripped off investors" and the " police" will be very interested unless eddie stops presenting observable instances of his shady shit. It is quite a robust example.

3. The points about nutildah are now (thanks to my very good self) widely known and people are begging us not to keep presenting them even WHERE THEY ARE ONTOPIC AND RELEVANT I don't expect any in meta are unfamiliar with his plight. Unless you class someone who was gifted a NEM stake (a possible 300BTC) , and early dash adopter who  now begs for 0.02BTC loans an example of success?? go read his own " i am leaving the US for living in a mud hut in Phili to try to exist on my talented writing skills with my filli skank . Not that any of that should be conflated with evidence one can not stay on topic if they want to. So your specious argument is again laughable. Every off topic post must be evaluated on that specific example. You can not even say if one goes off topic in one thread they are AUTOMATICALLY off topic in another.

VERY STRANGE Yogg and Lauda have neglected to add red trust for this blackmail/extortion isn't it?? never mind it is better they do not. Double standards are always fun to point out. Yogg is pure dirt, I mean most accept lauda is already but YOGG is dirty, and likely and lauda alt or close scammer supporting pal.

Suggesting that one should adopted " new" or "variant" terms for things that describe that which they wish to express perfectly, and that they need to improve their vocabulary is of no interest to us. Those touting their expansive vocabularies and slick english who get pulled apart in debate by those that tend to just express themselves in simple terms is even more hilarious. Nerds who sit there for years memorizing a ton of other peoples achievements, work and discoveries complete with references, terminologies and theories. Then just spanked and thrashed in public by others that put in less than 1% of their effort and just rely on their natural powers of reason and creativity. Get your nose back in your books and keep expanding your vocabulary so you can rest on your laurels of being "literate" as we kick them from under you and bitch slap you around in public with some basic robust reasoning.

Permitted flow and observable instance(s). 2 of my favs. Here to stay.

It is clearly blackmail/extortion and it is clearly double standards from YOGG and LAUDA to refuse to red trust it. This is ANOTHER great thread to link to the dirty turds reveal.

Now coward stop posting and getting merits from your scammers supporting pals and alts it is disgraceful. Your account is stalking us pretty much and just demonstrates you are terrified of a member that has no dt red trust wand to damage you nor no merits to starve you from. Why so scared??  obviously you are terrified of us crushing your real account so badly in debate you lose all credibility or respect from your scamming pals. Not that that would be a bad thing really.

I will not be answering more off topic garbage unless i feel like it.

Stick to just reading the mozprognoz post and giving your opinions on whether is is 1, 2, or 3 and WHY.

To us it can only clearly be blackmail or extortion. Yogg says the same since he only needs a demand (stop all of this looking into me ) or I will ( investigate you are jim and tell burned investors and the police)

Yogg has said ANY " you must do x" or else i will do Y = blackmail/extortion.

Even alice who is sitting on the bus when bob runs up and grabs the phone out of her hands and starts walking away. If alice says to bob " give me back my phone or I will report this to the police" Yogg says she is an extortionist and blackmailer and that BOB is the damaged party here. How can you have yogg of bitcointalk here on default trust the scammer supporting filthy little shit? having people like mosprognoz, lauda, yogg, tman, nutildah reflect on the rest of you DT1. You all look dirty or weak.

Yogg ran away from this debate. Fucking coward and double standards piece of shit.









  

Imagine if you were genuinely this reasonable and friendly


 

Also how can expect me to believe you are genuine when you Admit that YOUR YOURSELF are FORCED into back stabbing your FRIENDS here because you are scared of same gang I am fighting against.

This is off topic but will not be deleted obviously because it is a core member of the abusive gang so I will answer it.

No, I will not submit to being a bunch of scammers and scammer supporters puppet, just so that I can have fun expressing the views they allow.

ALL OF MY POINTS ARE CONSTRUCTIVE and CORRECT else why has nobody debunked a single one of them?? or presented any explanation of how they are off topic and irrelevant that has stood up to scrutiny??
 
Now also your post is way more off topic  and irrelevant than the ones of our own that are being deleted.

@tman your post is off topic and also trolling. We challenge you to bring any central points that we have made that you can demonstrate are incorrect or untrue, that we have continued to present as true after the were proven false.

If you can not, that means you are trolling right now. That is a complex concept for the tourettes poet I know. Get someone to help you with it AUCTION SCAMMER.

@findingnemo

All abuse should be made public. I have no desire to be begging theymos in private to ensure there is some fairness and transparency here on this forum. If there is glaring double standards and a 2 tier system that everyone else can notice (who are not the beneficiaries and don't want to notice) then I expect theymos is well aware of it. Hence why he has not come forth to our public challenges to

a/ discuss clear examples of double standards and abuse of members and systems of control.
b/ why UNDENIABLE scammers are running DT entrenched by their supporters ( all of who are controlling the top paid sig spots and other rev streams here)
c/ why the mods will refuse to delete mindless swearing that does not even accompany any form of rebuttal or even mention the central points in the initial post of a thread.
d/ why merits are allowed to be applied to a post that says " shut up you used tampon" in response to independently verifiable observable instances of clear financially motivated wrong doing (by a merit source)
e/ why mods refuse to delete off topic debunked accusations and then go and actually give them merits
f/ the clear and undeniable holes of the systems of control that encourage, reward and actually demand abuse to continue to be part of them, and then ensure they control every economic aspect of the forum
g/ why he believes scams are not scams
h/ why he continues to heap futher control aspects of this forum to merit when that clearly stifles free speech further and economically gives further incentive to game and manipulate for selfish personal gain
I/ Why undeniable scammers get to punish people for whilstle blowing
J/ Why he thinks it is fair to remove merit sources and merit from posts that are clearly valuable just because the source openly says they will apply merit to valuable posts that support their political views here (when everyone does that anyway far more blatantly and not even for posts with any value
k/ thinks its a good idea for scammers to have their red tags expunged but whistle blowers keep their red tags applied by scammers
L/ why he suddenly decided of his own volition to TRY and OUT a member as 100% alt of another member when neither have posed any financial threat to this forum allowing others to leverage this to give out MORE trust abuse that has nothing to do at all with financially motivated wrong doing.
M/ accuse a member of running around telling lies when lauda trust abused him THEN deleting the thread that request evidence of those lies.
N/ why he believes scammers and extortionists and trust abusers (of whistle blowers ) are only sub optimal?
O/ why he gives merit to faux rebuttals based on anecdotal garbage, that are easily debunked, and never merits posts that are sitting there for months with people TRYING to debunk them but are unable to do so.
P/ threatening to ban people based on spurious and PROVEN gamed metrics the mods and their masters attempt to manipulate and game, and will not even debate this.
Q/ Refuse to enter any debate on permitted flow or remove any of the subjectivity where the abuse resides
R/ Invent the flagging system then just leave the old trust system there and REDUCE the threshold for red trust whilst leaving it there with MAXIMUM impact to peoples accounts economically. INCREASING the power of the abusers it turns out after all
S/ Making a volume button to gradually turn down the voices of those that are merit starved by the scamming controllers of merit and trust
T/ Giving merit source to fucking proven auction scammers that are mentally deficient and then wondering why they are slapping 50 on their pals yogg and other people that don't deserve it. Strange that lots of these tman groupies are merit sources too that if you look at their top 20 fans and recipients they are mostly ALL EACH OTHERS top 20 fans and recipients and each others includes on DT, and all sponsored by chipmixer or their pals yahoo and hhampuz campaigns....almost like handing the control of the forum to those that have previously been demonstrated to be down to do ANYTHING dirty they like for economic reward. Hardly smart was it.
U/ Can work out how to do all this other amazing techno nerd stuff, but can not work out how to blacklist a person from DT who is clearly and scammer and trust abuser?? sounds strange does it not?? how hard is it to press the  delete button from DT? perhaps we can hire a top level coder to really work out how to black list lauda from DT?
I could go on I expect but you get the picture.

If you can debunk any of those feel free to do so.

After all of those you may be considering that we feel THEYMOS himself is corrupt and complicit with these scammers???

 It is more likely theymos is sitting there loving tinkering around with the dream of decentralized governance and also removing his OWN accountability for any scamming and damage that may happen here on the forum. UNDERSTANDABLE. In the process though will just ignore the huge problems with trying to hand this board over to scammers and those haning around in meta (the only ones he really know and who will be bothered wanting to be in control anyway)  with the full capability now to only scatter merits on those they are grooming into the lower tiers of the scam supporting crew.

The governance will not decentralize as he may believe it will simply maintain the core but the peripheral supporters may need to be replaced from time to time. The number of DT may just eventually break down in to factions that will come to a sensible agreement to divide up the rev shares and not abuse each other but just ensure a 2 tier system for those DT factions and every other member.

Anyway I hope that answers why we are not PM theymos directly about it and prefer to post the undeniable double standards and abuse of moderators ( who rely on rev from the sigs that many or these dt and scampaign managers control).

If there are other spurious reasons for the deleting for this post. Let them present it and let the reporter come here to. This should all be fucking transparent also. Reporter name, reason for report. ,mod name, reason for delete. Further detailed clarification if this continuously happens. I mean it is POSSIBLE there is a very good reason NOT to delete " fuck off you used tampon" or " shut the fuck up troll" in response to observable instances and informative valuable initial post and mark the report as BAD. And also a very GOOD reason to delete on topic relevant posts that are often restated by others on thread that are not deleted at all and even responded to by mods themselves lol.

We are just waiting to hear the REASONS in the reporters and mods own words so we can analyze it and start to form a consistent picture of sensible transparent rules and guides that are applied to ALL MEMBERS.

I can understand people refusing to debate with people that get all of their points debunked but either refuse to recognize this or just has one point after the other debunked easily. That could not be further from the truth with our own posts. They are simply inconvenient truths that do not suit those who are the prime beneficiaries of the status quo. That is the end of it.  Hence why they will weaponize ANYTHING they can to silence us.

Anyway as I have already stated I am not expecting any support in meta, it is the scamming cores home territory and all others here are spineless pathetic dregs that will say or do anything just to keep spamming their sigs or just be part of the group. People fear being outside of a gang or group especially if they witness others being made pariahs. I prefer it, especially when they are corrupt, selfish and extremely pathetic/ weak. There are some on this forum that are deserving of respect, and we do remain grateful to this forum for allowing us the opportunity to change our fortunes for the far far far better in an economic sense. In part theymos is to thank for this opportunity, the mods to an earlier point had been reasonable and fair. Our aim was to help the forum. I do not consider this possible from meta board any longer. Anyone spending more than 10% of their time here should be then quarantined from the rest of the forum. People SEEKING control should NOT be GIVEN control generally. Unless they can produce a clear and admirable goal or mission that they are held to. Not just personal gain.

Anyway since people have asked I have answered.

Back on topic. Our posts should not be deleted neither should of ANY of our posts listed in the deleted posts thread we created in REP. If anyone can demonstrate how they are clearly off topic or irrelevant . We will engage in sensible debate about it to establish the transparent permitted flow rules they seem to be keeping to themselves.

Please debunk our points there is no point offering opinion that SOMETHING WILL NOT HAPPEN for x reasons, when it is clear that it has happened.

Make your own suggestion of how it WAS off topic and irrelevant given out points that you can confirm and verify for yourself.

thanks

1. Tman seems off topic and making false claims that we previously debunked and he ran away
2. Tman seems to be avoiding commenting on his pals mosprognoz blackmailing LOL
3. Tman likes to extort and blackmail in the same way https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206130.msg53238785#msg53238785
4. Tman is still apparently obsessed with the foul smelling vaginal fluids and secretions. Poor soul.

Thanks for showing up and allowing us to make another example of you, you poor wretched animal haha

WHY NOT COMMENT ON THE BLACKMAIL AND EXTORTION?? we all know why. This inner circle of scumbags like to entrench themselves with each others merits and includes. Mosprognoz is one of them and so are you.

Thanks for the bump though

The mods won't explain BECAUSE they can not explain.

1. the initial post is forming a list of lauda asslickers and supporters
2. everyone else is suggesting names to be added and reasons
3. People are commenting and discussing the reasons given for the suggested additions
4. qwk is NOT on the list but says he should be on there.
5. we support qwks begging to go on the list by presenting key evidence
a. he says he is not interested in the truth of laudas scamming when confronted
b. he says is it GOOD that innocent people get red trust
c. he said he buys lauda amazon vouchers when lauda tells him to
6. He then starts attacking us for helping him and saying we have no social life and does not care if lauda is a boy or girl
7. We tell him there is no need to attack us, we are supporting his begging to be added to the list and it is fine if he don't mind boys or girls at his age. No reason to fight if our goals are aligned we want him added to the list anyway

There is NO Reason to delete our post at all. It is another scammy delete BY mods that want to weaponize " the number of deleted posts metric" and try to get us banned which is not going to benefit them AT ALL. I have enough friends that are here now and will join in the future to ensure the SAME TRUTHS will be spelled out on this forum where and when they are on topic and relevant and weaponizing these gamed and abused metrics is just going to ADD to our arsenal to keep on crushing them in sensible debate with points they can not debunk or deny.

There is no homophobia or any other phobia and I have never heard of that being grounds for a delete , this board is riddled with non PC comments that are completely off topic. On topic posts can not be deleted especially if they are 100% relevant and ontopic to the initial post.

We are not the challenger. We are the undisputed champion here. Unless  you can find any central points of ours that have ever been conclusively debunked that is. Remember we have been in opposition to nearly the entire DT and the systems of control for over 1 year. We have made multiple challenges to the entire forum to debunk one of our central points about scamming scammer supporting double standards selves or the implications of the systems of control that allow them to create this 2 tier system. AND NOT ONE HAS PRESENTED EVEN ONE DEBUNKED POINT OF OURS. Let that sink in. This is no challenger. This is the undisputed bitcointalk champion make no doubt about that.

 Don' let their flowery English word salad sharts fool you. These are mostly low functioning nerds that have LEARNED tech stuff,  on the back of others hard work and memorized the discoveries and work of others, or sat there polishing their English (a simple but again boring task when you really only need the basics to convey yourself accurately 99.9999% of the time) to appear smart. These people are NOT capable of generating original thoughts very well especially under pressure, and are not good at improvising or adapting. Their creativity and actual ability to debate is therefore very weak. Hence why they fail when they hit a scenario where their memorized solutions (of others) are not entirely applicable or they can not match a solution against it. We do not suffer this low functioning and limited scope.

We also have the luxury of coming with the truth and not having to concoct a web of lies and deceit to cover the observable instances that we are trying to game and cheat the weak systems here for our own personal enrichment. That is a huge advantage they can not take away. Honesty and truth can NOT be beaten when you are working from documented events and evidence. The layers of covering up and misrepresentation will always eventually be stripped away even if a change for better is not always possible because a critical number of people with a critical amount of power ensure they have the power to tilt advantage to themselves whilst blatantly telling everyone else it is a fair and equal system. The others lack power to make it fair even if the truth is know. Therefore they will opt to join or garner favor from those in power rather than using the truth to leverage the majority to push for fairness and equality. This is sad but just how it goes in many things that you will start to study.

We have tried politeness and patience. Those are wasted pursuits in a sea of corrupt filth. They will simply be used against you and seen as weakness. You will find this out for yourself at one stage or another. It is inexorable if you are an honest member here that does not want to play at bitcointalk the game of thrones  edition our great author here has decided to trial out. Read our post history for yourself and investigate on your own steam and make up your own mind. All members should do their own investigations and never rely on the CLAIMS of others.

Ah our cowardly stalker. Hello coward.

1. Your post is off topic because it does NOT make a comment on ANYTHING to do the blackmail/extortion AT ALL.
2. Your post is another example of a cowardly sleaze bag who cuts away the full quote to misrepresent it. The full quote say you can scream and shout about people but you must bring evidence to corroborate it is  true and that is a tiny fraction of that post you dumb cowardly cunt. The rest is ENTIRELY and undeniably on topic. You can not say the post is off topic because 1% of the post is NOT entirely concerning the initial post BUT is in answer to something someone has commented on and is relevant to the initial post.
3.You don't get to make up the permitted flow as it suits you and using snippets of quotes to misrepresent what was said you conniving coward.

It is highly enjoyable to us to note that people NEED to create puppet accounts just to face US. LOL we don't even have the DT magic 2 tier corrupt red trusting wand to wave and have no merit carrot to with hold  and STILL you are terrified of us. hahahha

Bring your real account here chicken shit, what a pathetic scum bag we have here. NO WONDER the vile vixen, Laudas Feltching Clown , and nerdius are powering up the merits of a self confessed scum bag puppet stalker.

Now back on topic shit for brains

WHAT IS YOUR OPINION OF THIS EXTORTION AND BLACKMAIL your silence on that aspect of the thread is deafening.

When will these cowardly sock puppets start to understand it is impossible to defeat me and the truth here.

1. the OP is claiming it is ABUSE that they have flagged him for this alleged plagiarism and lauda is also claiming he should be banned
2. I confirm that they are ABUSING him and the trust system by IMPOSING DOUBLE STANDARDS
a/ they screaming their pal chibitchity should not have been banned for ADMITTING FINANCIALLY  MOTIVATED plagiarism, and then scream they want him re-instated after the ban
b/ I also give my opinion that it is also abuse on the grounds that THEY have done far more financially motivated wrong doing than him, and now are speaking about red trust, flags and a ban whilst NOT having any of those themselves. The CORRECT punishment for a alleged crime can only be discussed and decided upon in the context of ALL OTHER CRIMES here on this forum in order to establish a consistent and credible punishment.
3. The mods REFUSE to delete posts from these fucking dregs that appear on our threads and have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INITIAL POST AT ALL. and at times these corrupt cunting mods will go and merit off topic allegations that have NO relevance at all to the thread.

You have not debunked any of those points so fuck off back under your rock you cowardly piece of shit.

One only has to take note of those powering up your merits to realize who controls this dirty cunt.

fox pup
lfc bitcoin
dubious nullius

these are obvious lauda and scammers supporters

also

look at MOST of your posts??? they seem to predominantly stalking our account you creepy cowardly little freak.

Now realize I will keep caving your skull in in public like this and pointing out what a low functioning coward you are.

Stop taking hours to dream up this crap and reply more quickly It is fun to crush you.

Discussing the LIST the initial poster has put and supporting QWKS request to be added to the list.

I expect to hear HOW this is off topic any more than ANY OTHER of the posts on that thread suggesting people for the list ? I see many people offering and commenting reasons to be added or removed from this list.

Mods hiding away and refusing to explain the deletes = corruption and scamming. Who reported, which mod deleted. Bring it here and we will debunk it like ALL of the previous corrupt moderation.



Keep in mind the first quote by QWK is NOT the full post we made, he only quoted that tiny part. Which is fair enough. The rest of the post was a nicely explained reason why qwk is correct, he should be on the list. How is his own post not off topic??

This entire board is corrupt. Make no doubt about it running to the very top. This echochambertalk.org is becoming a quite an awful place. Thank good ness for our very long vacation coming on the 14th.

There is no way this can be off topic or irrelevant. Fucking mod scum stop hiding you cowardly cunts.

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Let's get back on topic here. But to catch up on the last page of largely off topic rubbish and scary attempts to spin the truth into something very misleading. Let's correct those first.

Tman attempts a one line sentence and fucks it to death with mistakes lol

+1 merit nullius says

"That is why I ignored this thread at first.  Poor grammar, spelling, usage and style (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182260.0) together make a good heuristic:  Avoid wasting time in 99% of cases; miss an interesting thread in 1% of cases."

noobius talk does not represent its actions. He loves poor grammar and spelling carnage if it is his pals tman, his own is far short of perfect since his politically charged reactivation.

Then a bunch of garbled nonsense that is pretty much off topic and irrelevant garbage? pulling to devil worship and other nonsense. Discussion of verbs bla bla bla
This asslicker nullius is pushing some serious double standards and trying to mislead people.

The original post is simply asking if that post is worth 50 merits ffs. Tman fucked up and slathered 50 merits at once because he says HE DOES NOT HAVE TIME to spend the 400 merits a month theymos wisely placed in the hands or fucking moron auction scammer. If he DID have the time how is someone this stupid going to correctly allocate these merits to HIGH value posts?? he does not have the capacity to evaluate HIGH VALUE posts

Some one points out the TRUTH that the post (in question in the initial post)is a pile of shit and about as likely to make any lasting positive change here as a nullius flowery word salad effort, although could have been more genuine and certainly NOT worth 50 merits. Immediately threatened with the weaponized merit.

Tman then demonstrates clearly that he will threaten people with merit starvation, if they point out the truth. Just as he will admit to giving red trust for presenting truth's he does not want to be presented.  

Then we have the usual idiots claiming tman pulled a master stroke because now we are on to this guy that apparently preps his own questions. FAILING to miss we are only ON to this guy because the initial poster (who tman claims is a cunt and will never get any more merits from him) decided to bring that here.

This thread is only a success because the initial poster ( who is apparently turd and should be merit starved)  pointed it out, and that tman demonstrated clearly how merit is leveraged to stifle and crush free speech ALONE, that is without the other obvious use to control the trust system and the other great weapon here to control free speech: double standards trust abuse .

None of this has been debunked, because it can not be debunked it is there in black and white.

So what is the point of derailing this thread into Tman is brilliant and this bullshit noobius shill is pumping out that those COMPLAINING about the obvious broken nature of merit are just a bunch of whiners that should be moved on to yobits forum.

Haha sorry let's keep ON TOPIC here. Merit is dangerous, it crushes free speech, and is given to posts of low value that are largely net negative. Unless people like the initial poster complain about it (fucking moaner) and and are threatened with merit starvation and  getting on the shit list of scammy DT's that are not afraid to trust abuse for such truths being told either....then we all go on telling each other here merit is a genius design that clearly represents the posters true value.

The post was crap, the merits given were high . The person raising the truth was threatened with merit starvation. Merit crushes free speech. Merit score means little, those defending it are the beneficiaries of the merit system and will say or do anything to maintain the wide open to abuse and gaming nature of merit. So.....they can keep gaming and abusing it.

I can not see how we are turning

shit post gets 50 merits
telling the truth gets threats of no more merits

Into a don't dare criticize merits or be told to get to yobits forum with the other crap spellers like Tman and noobius (who obviously know how to spell things they spell incorrectly in their adapted titles)


retards like nullius appear and say ....well  those claiming the merit system is unreliable and dangerous, should go to yobits forum and those that can't spell or use correct grammar ( except himself and tman) should be ignored 99% time anyway lol

Let's keep on topic, the post was shit , tmans judgement was shit, tmans reaction to the truth being told was shit, the way merit can be used as a weapon against free speech is shit.

What more can be said?? did the guy pre prep the answers to his own questions? seems so.....why?? because merit is an economic concern. Until merit is not and economic concern merit will never be about post value/quality.

Sorry trying to spin this into " a those that moan about merit should be moved to yobits forums" when the thread clearly demonstrates the OPPOSITE is not going to work. No dubious noobius worm tongue nerd splatter is going to work here.

Noobius calling out SOCK and then giving merits to obvious SOCKS again smacks of double standards and scammer supporting. Pure DIRT.

The BIGGER question is why should we not consider YOU MORONBOZO as high risk??

I mean someone that goes to this much trouble for this kind of newbie low level borderline financially dangerous to prove or rather present reasonable case they are the same person.

BUT you totally support others with FAR STRONGER DIRECT FINANCIALLY HIGH RISK BEHAVIORS.

That makes YOU HIGH RISK.

This also DOES mean you are abusing this forum and the initial poster with DOUBLE STANDARDS you are scamming in effect.

You are PRETENDING and DECEIVING that you CARE about high risk to honest members BUT YOU DO NOT CARE AT ALL because you are supporting lauda, tman and nutildah who have ALL committed undeniable deception for direct financial reward in one way or another and ALL have abused the trust of honest members who have attempted to bring that to the attention of other honest members.

If you really cared about HIGH RISK to other members you would be spending all of this energy INVESTIGATING your pals lauda, tman and nutildah and getting them punished. Why are you NOT?? a touchy point I am sure.

The reader needs to consider this carefully and weigh this AGAINST what can be proven about the INITIAL POSTER who is claiming this is abuse. I totally agree this is abuse of the trust system. Forcing double standards inside the trust system is ABUSE and scamming.

UNDENIABLE hence why nobody dare tackle this point.

I mean moronbozo is said to control the zorrobeck account. I notice as SOON as it was mentioned by someone that marlboroza was NOT PERMITTED to post on their self moderated thread ZORROBECK turns up LOL
MORONBOZO told QS that ONLY video evidence of him using both accounts would be acceptable as proof. Perhaps all should share these high standards of proof he himself demands???  is this MORE double standards??

The trust system is simply a weapon a lot of scammers use to control their DT powers, merit allocations and rev stream control here. In other words it is all one big GAMED AND ABUSED SCAM which ensure the status quo of entrenched ABUSERS is maintained.

Debunk this or eat shit and accept you ARE abusing the trust system AND the initial poster.

Hmm, well okay I will listen to a proven and undenible scam facilitator for pay who would delete the evidence when busted. Not sure why I will but still...

They do not meet the threshold for type2 flags. He is probably just mistaken and should be opening up lemons level flags?? then each one would need to be carefully evaluated against the " he likes lemons, therefore is dangerous" threshold. I think you will find not all 66 will fail to meet that. Or the he is dangerous because we think he is someone else who has never engaged in any financially motivated wrong doing either  LOL.... so he should simply change them to lemons type 1 flags right?? and all will be fine. I mean mental gymnastics and your opinion on deception (selectively) means open season for anyone on this forum for a type 1 flag. We already noted nullius is being deceptive claiming his is 2 years old on his account profile?? with some mental gymnastics on the lemons level that is certainly high risk and highly deceptive.

Or others saying their location is is mars? are they being deceptive? Lauda says he is NOT being deceptive claiming he was on the xcoin launch and confirm there was NO instamine and premine, a great project fair launch and has plenty of bags of it himself. TMAN claimed in his auction scam, he wanted to buy his own items from himself (his pal auctioning his items for him) it would be such a great deal at this silly lowest price.., only thing preventing him buying it from himself for that cheap is he had too many already in his AUCTION deception for clear financial gain where he was busted by OG red handed. Lauda tman says he was not extorting REALLY he was just ...undercover agents, no shady escrow, no trust abuse...haha bring it all here let me tear it all up in public all over again and demonstrate if BSV should be nuked THEY should be nuked along with him.

Anything You think is untrustworthy or a deception can be cause for the lemons flag. I don't think he will have much problem meeting that actually for many of those he left flags for.

Opposing your flags ( on the basis of what you have self confessed to be willing to do or become for 300bucks or there abouts or those who you support on dt or on threads or deleting evidence) ......may just be a precautionary measure and he will then work through them to make sure. Better safe than sorry and if that is his opinion who are YOU to say otherwise.


I mean if all of that ( including the real crime of not objecting to your trust abuse on our account) is MORE dangerous than your own scam facilitating for pay or even admitting you will turn evil for 300 bucks , and deleting the evidence.....then we can try and debate on a sensible level of punishment for you both.  I am up for it.

Now you have notice he is not all good (neglecting our plight) we are willing to indulge you in your assertion that he should be nuked and you should be a glowing green with a nicely paid sig on DT.

Let's get to the bottom of this do not run away. Bring your pals lauda and tman and we can get some good 4some action going in public.

Right now I am guessing if nutildah, lauda, tman are brought in on the full context (which they of course should) so we can evaluate the CORRECT level of punishment for BSV..... then we may need to add another option to the poll.

Be added to DT, chipmixer and merit source with glowing green trust. Can you add that option please timelord.

I mean sure when you demonstrate he is more DIRECTLY DANGEROUS to other members financially that either of these scumbags we can remove that option for punishment/reward again. Also I question TOTALLY that his actions with the trust system are as NET NEGATIVE as nutildahs, laudas, and tmans. Since they have little to zero support of consequence.

Again ready for open debate with anyone here on the topic of suitable and consistently credible punishment for BSVS actions and direct implications of those actions AKA the actual negative influence of them on members here currently. Seems the system that YOU guys control is already taking care of his POTENTIAL danger, whilst ENABLING your REAL DIRECT DANGER to other members.

BSV seems to have brought to light a LOT of important observable instances and created a nice warning for honest members to stumble across in various threads. This must be factored into the debate regarding his punishment also.

Is there HARD conclusive proof this person is the banned member you CLAIM? if so then why not banned?? and why was he banned previously?

Yes though, it looks bad BSV did not oppose the abuse you have left on our own account, so I will not vote for the DT, chipmixer, glowing green option just yet. Well sadly though nobody likes us here even those we support we do our best to cope with that whilst we endure living a lavish lifestyle outside of this forum haha


Read , take it all in and start to digest it. Then when you can debunk it clearly with observable instances and reason that we can not pull apart with ease. Then reply.

We are always happy to change our opinions and adapt and improve when we are clearly demonstrated to be incorrect. We we imagine we would feel happy. We will let you know if it happens at some time here.

Let's bring in all the bad guys here, put it all down on paper, work out who is more dangerous and then work out which punishments THEY should all have. If they should all be banned and nuked let's get on it. Not just focus on those that pose NO DANGER to ourselves and we can turn a blind eye to their wrong doing and not suggest they are nuked or banned.

BSV = no further action at this point, although certainly argument for DT and a nice paying sig if we want to be totally fair to him and lauda, tman and nutildah at the same time. Although as we say NO EVIDENCE of clear financially motivated wrong doing by BSV, so throw in a mod position hey for good measure, perhaps global.

Debunk it and we will have a rethink. These suggestions are NOT SET IN STONE. Only putting them out there so we can all reach a measured credible and sensible punishment weighed in against how dangerous they are to this forum REALLY.

Let us give equal reward and equal punishment to ALL members based on their behaviors. ELSE any action is abuse and double standards. = scamming them.

Remember these things when deciding on BSV punishment for leaving red trust or flags.

1. lauda says you  can have red trust for saying you will encourage others to review his post history

2. Tman says you can have red trust for presenting observable instances from laudas post history.

3. yogg says you can have red trust for telling tman you will tell others that he admitted "he can , he will and he just has given red trust for presenting observable instances.

4. Nullius says you can have red trust for saying " okay ban them if you must for copy and paste, but it is in bad taste and not in the spirit of this forum to ridicule them for saying they are poor and did it for money for their families"  Nullius says if you suggest it is in bad taste to ridicule poor hungry people who perhaps really are honestly hungry with hungry families" then you are depriving members of their rights to poke fun at them , they deserve it and also he was once a starving peasant and he never did copy and paste so fuck them. Also is laudas new feltching pal that will be on DT SOON so his red will soon go live likely.

5. You can have red trust for liking the taste of lemons - the fact you know lemons can kill some people and you say you like it means you are dangerous and untrustworthy to some.

6. If you were to make a joke that tmans mum is rank and she was begging you for sex in PM. That is not a joke that is a clear LIE and you are a financial danger to the forum. However they can say your parents fucked you as a child and claim anything they like and that is obviously just a JOKE.

7. If  you are rude to another member, you are potty mouthed and you are spreading lies about how nice they are really. Again more red. But then they will hate on that same member later and say pretty much the same things about them.

8. You are spreading defamation and lies, if you ask is a project knowingly hiring scammers, or scammer supporters, and then provide evidence to substantiate that question that they do not refute at all LOL

9 You can have red trust for asking people to stay on topic when they come in screaming sexual deviance at you and you say stay on topic or fuck off.

10. You can have red trust for imposing your own local rules on a thread that says you will be deleted if you bring opinions with no corroborating evidence or observable instances, then follow through with that.

11. You can have red trust for telling someone that is shouting accusations against another member without presenting evidence 2 x already on your thread, that they must present evidence or they can not repeat this accusation. You delete their 3rd same accusation and they say you are misleading people while it was still on the thread the first 2 x already and they were not removed LOL

12. You can get red trust for not knowing what scare quote are. If someone quotes 3 things you did say in a row and then puts a 4th thing right next to them in "scare quotes" and you say fuck off you liar I never said the 4th thing at all. They say...false accusation of lying = red trust instead of saying scare quotes means you did not say that one.

THIS was all I BELIEVE done under the OLD system mostly where it was SUPPOSED TO BE SCAMMING OR CERTAINLY ABOUT TO SCAM ONLY LOL

So now the threshold is lowered then it is obvious there is no such thing as trust abuse, there is no such thing as lemons flag abuse either since it is now the same as trust (preemptive striking against possible thought crimes based on whatever you feel qualifies as signs of this)

So if BSV moves them all to type 1 there is really no gripes to be had by anyone. Unless you want to clearly demontrate we are wrong.

READ , UNDERSTAND, ACCEPT.

or debunk.

The poll is bogus really unless it is made transparent (same for all polls here)
 

This is a very good idea. Also be great if eddie can link those in the OP so if anyone tries to do a " nutildah" on the evidence it will still be there in tact, and the poor mislead reader does not have to read the "adapted versions of the truth and be mislead entirely" before finding the truth out on page 5

I don't think one can LEARN to not be a scammer at a certain age. You go to the dark side you never come back really. Those claiming its a temp removal he just needs a little lay down and  a rest.. .....well, are likely on the dark side and worry the light is closing in.

Why no RED for mosprognoz?? fuck knows?? in the full context of red giving out for things like saying well okay ban them if you want, but don't ridicule the fact they say poverty drove them to it...haha that stupid cunt nullius/noobius is going to be on DT soon and replacing laudas fallen pal mosprognoz. "lauda and me" cries nullius already. Lauda and I ...

Perhaps another red tag debate in the making. You can have an entire trust system thrashing convention on the material in this thread alone.

Why not lemons flag at a minimum??

Still perhaps better he has no red and flags. It is more useful to demonstrate the clear double standards that are still be shoved down peoples throats. Nice addition to the dirty turds thread.

Mornonpigsnoz must learn I think now that his account is one of the most undeniably dirty here. Up there with your pals and alts now my famous scam biting friend.

Still no orders on the autographed, mosprognoz famous scam biter t-shirts, let you know as they come in. haha

Thanks mosprognoz you have served your forum well. The wedge that splits the supers scammy and dangerous non scammy that just want to be pals and have easy life on this forum. Glad to see they have some limits to the filthy shit they can let slide past their noses.