This is crazy considering many altcoin has it's own NFT protocol and Monero supposed to offer fungibility.
ordinals doesnt work as a proof of transfer thing so it doesnt matter what type of blockchain they chuck junk on.. the junk data does not ON BLOCKCHAIN assign itself to a particular output. thus it doesnt transfer economically. the scam/empty promise is how ordinals software makes ASSUMPTIONS not locked to block data but software policy, policy they can change without affecting/editing/breaking the blockchain.. yep they can change ownership to a different output with a couple lines of code and completely change who owns what and they dont need to break the blockchain to do it.. so its not a solid proof of transfer. its a scammy lame/ assumption without a security method of real immutable proof And as i said previously, people who own ordinals generally don't care how "ownership" works. Few of them even use Ordinals only to store arbitrary data on Bitcoin blockchain. Although in case reference software[1] change how ownership work, people will resort by keep using wallet and website which use old "ownership" system. putting ordinals on monero or bitcoin makes no difference.. both are schemes and scams of putting junk on a blockchain and PRETEND people get to claim rightful ownership when sold.. even if the proof of transfer does not operate via blockchain proofs, because ordinals does not use/need onchain proof of which output/account owns it.. its all dodgy editable policy in ordinals software
Although Monero community took Ordinals problem seriously by adding limit size on TX_EXTRA[2]. [1] https://github.com/ordinals/ord[2] https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8733 |
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I agree that the Ordinals should be placed on an independent blockchain and let them do their thing.
The appeal of ordinals (and inscriptions) is having your data stored in the world's most secure and popular blockchain. Even if its just used as a marketing ploy, that's where the allure lies. There are already tons of other blockchains in which massive amounts of data can be stored. A few of them, such as Arweave, were created exactly for that purpose. Ordinals people don't want to use other blockchains... Well I mean they are now, but they're not as popular. As with its status as a cryptocurrency, Bitcoin Ordinals are the gold standard for ordinals projects, and thus they will have higher value than ordinals on other chains, which now include: - Litecoin - Dogecoin (Doginals) - Ethereum (Ethscriptions) - Avalanche - Solana - Polygon and most recently, - Monero (Mordinals... believe it or not, its a thing now  ) This is crazy considering many altcoin has it's own NFT protocol and Monero supposed to offer fungibility. |
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I am new to the forum and this thread is 6 months old, but that's *still* a month younger than my own brief experiment making a single inscription using the Ord code -- A small (<1KB) text poem to my Mom for Mother's day to put her on the Chain (see https://ordinals.com/preview/51b2b0ca885149b342a2c80420f57f4fb86e3abd6ad4f17b618fb33b8b0e436bi0 for context). SO I'm still trying to sort through whether I played myself (and my dear old mum, and the world?) into the hands of some obscure and nefarious "attack" conspiracy? Directed by shadowy bad actors who are suing luminaries here on this board? for billions of dollars or something... sounds hideous! Welcome to Bitcointalk forum. Don't worry about speculation written by other member. And while it's discouraged, some people already include text to Bitcoin blockchain using OP_RETURN, public key (which then converted into address) and other means. Meanwhile my specific questions for this thread are:
Is it true that there used to be a 10000 byte limit on scripts which Taproot actually removed?
Yes, Although it's more accurate to say limit for Taproot script never exist. 9. Why is a limit on script size no longer needed? Since there is no scriptCode directly included in the signature hash (only indirectly through a precomputable tapleaf hash), the CPU time spent on a signature check is no longer proportional to the size of the script being executed.
If so, why was 10KB of space before Taproot, not enough for Witness scripts and that an unlimited amount of space was required?
Pieter Wuille on https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/114912 partially answer your question. |
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If the wallet file created on 2009, it's likely you used old version of software called "Bitcoin" or "Bitcoin Qt" (today those are called "Bitcoin Core") version 0.2 or older where encryption feature didn't exist. So i'd suggest you to double check security of your device and backup medium.
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i reviewed all 3 links you referenced but none of them had a big warning that someone could hog up an entire 4MB block with a single transaction or that people could use the witness field to store pictures and audio and video clips. was that supposed to just be understood and assumed that everyone knew those things could happen and was ok with it without even mentioning it at all? i don't think people are that smart, in general. but the developers should be. no question about that... Including single TX (excluding coinbase TX) always has been possible if miner/pool wish do that. But i guess even developer don't expect witness data would be used to store arbitrary data. Although this link mention 4MB block is possible if it's mostly contain witness data. Is the segregated witness soft fork equivalent to a 4MB block size increase, a 2MB increase, a 1.75MB increase, or what? I keep hearing different numbers.
The current proposal for soft fork segregated witness (segwit) counts each byte in a witness as 0.25 bytes towards the maximum block size limit, meaning the maximum size of a block is just under 4MB.
However, blocks are not expected to consist entirely of witness data and each non-witness byte is counted as 1.00 bytes towards the maximum block size limit, so blocks near 4MB in size would be unlikely.
According to some calculations performed by Anthony Towns, a block filled with standard single-signature P2PKH transactions would be about 1.6MB and a block filled with 2-of-2 multisignature transactions would be about 2.0MB.
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Yes. I tried all possible grid size combinations. Also, I tried to compile on latest cuda version using more recent compute_89 shader model. Same result. The maximum I have on 4090 is about 2500 MK/s. On 3090 is 2200 MK/s. 4090 should be faster. Looks like Kangaroo need some optimization for large number of cores 4090 have. Any ideas where this optimization can be made? Thanks. I see. While i have no idea which optimization can be done, you might want to try fork of this software or implementation written by different people. Here are few example, https://github.com/ZenulAbidin/Kangaroo-256https://github.com/PawelGorny/Kangaroohttps://github.com/secoc/Pollard-Rho-kangarooP.S. i haven't tried any of those. |
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It's been a long time since I've heard about OpenBazaar. I've thought it was a goner by now. Glad to know development is still on-going. What I didn't like about OpenBazaar was the terrible user experience. Particularly on mobile devices. This limits the decentralized marketplace's ability to reach widespread adoption worldwide. I wouldn't say the development is on-going when date of first commit on Mar 27 2023 and date of latest commit on Apr 20 2023. And yes, older OpenBazaar had poor UI/UX with technical limitation seller need to be online in order potential buyer find their product/service listring.. With regulatory pressure increasing each day, I wonder if OpenBazaar will survive? Would you imagine someone selling illegal stuff on the platform? Developers might be held accountable for this. Particl marketplace is also on the same boat. The future is widely unpredictable, so we can only hope for the best.
It's something we'll need to think if OpenBazaar 3.0 launched and manage to gain popularity. |
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Ada dulu gan, tapi lupa nama coinnya. Miningnya cuma butuh CPU saja, itu pun bisa pakai VPS.
Sebagai informasi, banyak provider VPS tidak mengijinkan penggunaan VPS untuk mining atau aktivitas lainnya yang menggunakan 100% dalam waktu lama. Aku dulu mensiasati dengan mereduce penggunaan CPU biar tidak kelihatan mining. Jadi ketika aplikasi miningnya sudah running, aku buka task manager dan ke detail aplikasi tersebut. Lalu aku set ke low priority, dan setelahnya, ku set juga Affinity menjadi 3 (CPU-nya 4 core). Jadi ketika ku lihat di log dashboardnya, CPU hanya bermain di 75-80% saja, tidak sampai 100%. Jadi aman sampai sewa berikutnya. Kalau untuk reduce di penggunaan linux juga pernah, tapi lupa perintah sudonya, pada dasarnya sama dengan memerintahkan CPU bekerja seadanya saja. Ide nya cukup bagus, tetapi banyak VPS provder melakukan scanning untuk mendeteksi berbagai aktivitas yang tidak diijinkan. Mungkin teknik tersebut hanya bisa dilakukan pada VPS yang dimiliki VPS provider kecil atau tidak popular. |
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Hello. What parameters or something to change in the code to speed-up this program on 4090 card? It only 1.2 times faster than on 3090 card, but it should be about 1.9 times faster. Thanks.
After searching for all post in this thread[1] and github repository[2], it looks like you're first person who mention "4090" or any RTX 4000 series. And while it's obvious, have you tried all guidance on github repository. For example, -g g1x,g1y,g2x,g2y,...: Specify GPU(s) kernel gridsize, default is 2*(MP),2*(Core/MP)
Powerfull GPUs with large number of cores won't be very efficient on small range, you can try to decrease the grid size in order to have less kangaroos but the GPU performance may not be optimal
[1] https://ninjastic.space/search?content=4090&topic_id=5244940[2] https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AJeanLucPons%2FKangaroo%204090&type=issues |
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When everyone knows what the limits are, people are free to transact. And yes, some people will inevitably find methods of exploiting or abusing those limits. But if those limits keep getting tighter, to try and catch out the ones exploiting it, you'll also catch innocent parties who are suddenly outside of a limit they were previously within.
In that case, limiting Taproot script size remember the "promise" of taproot 'it wil look like a normal tx that only uses one signature length' pfft. promise broke from day one. You forget about part where only certain TX can be aggregated/merged.
c. remove the blocksize miscount of 4mb (1mb base+3mb witness) cludge. so that any and all transactions get full utility of the full 4mb space
that was a huge thing to allow into bitcoin. you would think that such a huge thing would have been discussed alot and written up about why it was being done. with analysis about the potential repercussions of it. but nothing like that seemed to happen. so here we are. not knowing if they intended for it to be this way or not. but it is this way. kind of crazy. a feature like that should have been heavily discussed and debated prior to being implemented though and I'm sure someone would have brought up the issue that a single transaction could then consume an entire bitcoin block. and who would think that was a good thing?  But with hard-fork frowned by majority of Bitcoin community, the choice at that time is either that or keep using bytes (which means no block size increase). |
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I wouldn't say he's wrong. But if Bitcoin suddenly die or gone, most coin (including Cardano) and many company probably wouldn't survive. Only few cryptocurrency with big community (such as ETH) or strong usage/feature (such as XMR for privacy/anonymity) might survive.
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Apakah OP bisa mengajukan pertanyaan yang lebih detail? Jika tidak, saya hanya bisa memberikan jawaban umum seperti ini - Untuk kategori cloud mining yang sudah dibahas oleh member lain, anda bisa mengecek thread ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ yang memberikan indikasi apakah sebuah cloud mining palsu.
- Ada banyak aplikasi mining palsu, terutama aplikasi mining untuk device Android.
- Hati-hati jika mining koin yang tidak popular, karena koin tersebut berpotensi scam.
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Emang agan pernah nemuin koin yang ga butuh banyak resources buat di-mine?
Ada dulu gan, tapi lupa nama coinnya. Miningnya cuma butuh CPU saja, itu pun bisa pakai VPS. Sebagai informasi, banyak provider VPS tidak mengijinkan penggunaan VPS untuk mining atau aktivitas lainnya yang menggunakan 100% dalam waktu lama. |
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Hopefully abuse of this vulnerability in bitcoin's code will be addressed soon. What are your thoughts on the matter?
I have doubt Bitcoin Core developer would fix it after looking for reference discussion[1]. And even if they do, it's only somewhat effective after majority node owner update their software. [1] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28408 |
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Trying to learn how to run a coordinator as a pleb is more complicated than I thought! But the smarter, more technical people in the forum look like they haven't shown any interest yet. Let's wait. I believe a BitcoinTalk group will start running one soon. If the incentives are worth it, it's a good opportnity.  Complicated how? It's a single button: https://i.imgur.com/dA1YkUp.pngMaybe he refer to complexity when installing and configuring BTCPay itself, assuming he prefer not to use 3rd party. |
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Removed the WiFi card and Bluetooth. Format and reinstall the computer OS. That will let you to be 100% sure that your device is 100% not having malware.
I was thinking to remove the WiFi card and Bluetooth but my laptop Is inbuilt so If I want to remove this things i will have to unculple the laptop which might lead to damage. In this case, you could try remove driver which used for networking. One way that might work easier (somebody more knowledgeable should confirm) is to boot from a Tails USB and at boot time select (in offline mode settings) to stay without network (now the default is with network on). It's not my blog, I've found it on web search, but one of the last images on this page shows what I want to tell. Of course that if you want to use it for air gapped wallet you may want o enable persistence and so on, hence still things to learn and check. If this could be possible it will be less stressful than the above option but how do I get a tails USB ? Have anyone tried it before? To share the experience Basically you put Tails OS on your USB storage drive. Just check their website if you need guidance, https://tails.net/install/index.en.html. |
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