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81  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Developments Can Put Bitcoin Upwards Again? on: October 04, 2019, 07:42:20 AM
And how can we inspire people to buy more Bitcoin to increase the demand for the coin?

People will realize the importance of it, when they're going to need it. If you're in a country that's currently economically fine, it's very easy to ignore bitcoin. For the Venezuelans and Zimbabweans though? Chances are, you wouldn't even need to discuss the technicals of bitcoin for them to be interested in it. All they need to know that it's unconfiscatable, decentralized, easily tradable and sendable, and that it's deflationary. Those characteristics itself would be attractive enough for them to hold/earn bitcoin because the country they're in is economically broken.
Yeah that's what humans do, basically people will buy and use it when they see bitcoin as their needs. bitcoin needs to be a "need" if they want become a demand. In essence, bitcoin must be the same as fiat, accepted everywhere, legalized and become a legal payment. I'm sure bitcoin will be needed everywhere, and the use and development of bitcoin will definitely increase.
82  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If not a "store of value" or "medium of exchange" ... on: October 04, 2019, 06:28:06 AM
For me bitcoin is digital asset which can be use to earn profit through trading or exchange. Also it is a medium of exchange because there are stores now where you can buy goods and services in exchange of bitcoin.
The part of profit earning was not the reason why bitcoin was created for bitcoin is a sign of democracy and it was the currency which serve as the right alternative to give every individual liberation from economic slow down which the government was unable to fix.






I think so, the core of bitcoin creation is decentralized currency right? of course Satoshi definitely wants to make a currency where one can freely spend without pressure and restrictions from the government. Freedom is the essence of the creation of bitcoin. while profit is an unplanned goal I think, who knows the price of bitcoin will explode and become this high and profitable for many people?
83  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not use Exchange instead of Mixer? on: October 04, 2019, 04:21:12 AM
So, Mixers provide service of shuffling bitcoins or provide addresses loaded with bitcoins along with private keys. In short, they provide service so to create anonymity between sender's and receiver's address so that no one can trace the transaction.
My question is why not use Exchanges? When we deposit funds on exchange, bitcoins get deposited on exchange's cold wallet. But when we withdraw funds, withdraw gets processed from exchange's hot wallet. So in short, it is very easy to do anonymous transfer by depositing funds on exchange and withdrawing to other addresses. Why to pay 1-3% fees on Mixers when it could be done for much less on Exchanges. Exchanges like Binance charge just 0.0005 BTC to process withdrawals.
Yeah, I think the benefits will be the same, but I think the answer is the mixer is more simpler than the exchange site. imagine you have to create an account, verify KYC so that your account can be used for large transactions, and other complicated requirements. Whereas in the mixer, you only need 1 click and your money will go to your wallet from an unknown bitcoin address.
84  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: October 03, 2019, 07:40:59 AM
One thing i noticed about Liverpool is that they play a high line of defense( I think it's a Klopp style just like he did at Dortmund) which is not good if a team is very tactical and can catch you on the break. Maybe Klopp could do some reinforcing in the near future.

I have been a Real Madrid Fan for a long time and one thing for sure is, defense has never been our thing. Yes we have brilliant individuals at the back, but they are mostly attack minded, that's why we barely keep clean sheets. Now this has been worsened as they age and there are no perfect replacements.

It was one game. No need to panic,,, seriously. If it was like my team where we are constantly conceding then I would be worried. But one game where they let in 3 goals was because their defense had a bad night. And they still have the best defense in premier league. So I would not be worried at all.

Spurs? I am afraid for them seriously.
Yeah Van dijk is not a perfect player, he can't always be brilliant, always onfire and play well every week. sometimes he has a bad night, which is normal for every player. Come on man this is only 1 game? before never has anyone scored more than 3 goals when Virgil played, that doesn't mean that Liverpool defense has begun to falter, this is only 1 game. and I'm sure Klopp will fix it soon and Virgil cs will start to learn better, which is far more important to them is they win the match.
85  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A cryptocurrency entirely dedicated to GAMBLING? on: October 03, 2019, 06:41:03 AM
I really dont see a reason to buy another currency with BITCOIN when BITCOIN alone is good for gambling
Things just become more complicated going back and forth between CRYPTOS
BITCOIN is the best and good enough for gambling.
I think it all started when some of the casinos launched their own utility token during 2017. They offer decent features and benefits having their very own token on the platform.

And that's why others until now are simply following the path, they find success to the early ones who have collected a decent amount of money and funded their token which determined the value.
I think there were lots of cryptos that were made specifically for gambling, and there were even cryptos that were made specifically for currency for playing online games? Bitcoin is not made specifically for gambling, yeah even though you're already comfortable using bitcoin in gambling, but what if a token or project offers bonuses and facilities that are better than bitcoin when you play gambling? I think there will be a lot of players who want to use it, depending on the specifications and facilities that you bring from the coins you want to make, not just ordinary crypto.
86  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will You Believe That It's A Fix on: September 29, 2019, 05:13:16 PM
Ok this actually happens to my friend not so long ago, he is going on a boxing match and he will bet for the heavy favorite, then suddenly an unknown guy whisper to him, that the fight is going to be fixed and he supposedly heard it from the favorite to win, locker room, are you going to listen to that and bet for the underdog.

What's your take?
Actually fixing matches are not just in boxing matches, many sports games are manipulated for the benefit of a person. even big games have been involved in fixing scores / fixing matches, especially boxing matches that are not highlighted in television, of course there will be prone of manipulation. If someone offers me a fixing match in boxing game, I'll see who sells it first, whether he is trustworthy or not.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How much will you get in return? on: September 29, 2019, 12:59:44 PM
For a $100 investment in an altcoin, how much do you think one can get in return during the bull run.
I won’t fool myself from $100 capital to expect good ,unless I will take that for 5-10 years holding then I must say i wanted  atleast *10-50 ROI

For me I will risk that amount to Bet in Dice or roulette atleast I make triple of 5 times to invest and take a good profit in bullrun
I think it's a kind of parable with that nominal, I wouldn't be stupid to hold Altcoin for such a long term. because altcoin is famous for its very volatile price and is prone to near-term death. but if you ask about the possible benefits when the pump price on altcoin happen, then the profit you can get can be many times, depending on the altcoin you choose, because the price of an altcoin varies when a bull run occurs, there is 30% or 50% even up to more than 80% depending on the smart you choose a coins.
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you trust the market or the business owners? on: September 29, 2019, 12:35:21 PM
Obviously I would invest in bitcoin as there is no official organisation controlling the king coin. Its price goes down or up freely without any influence and control. As a result, bitcoin has dominated more than 60 percent of the entire crypto market. I believe in bitcoin and investment in it is secure and worthy of getting returns.
I think 80% of Crypto lovers will choose Bitcoin which a decentralized Crypto than a centralized Crypto, so it's true as you say that it's better to choose Bitcoin than Ripple. Bitcoin has a team that is already very sturdy and trusted than other Crypto.
I think depending on who the owner is, if they have an owner who has a big name and a big influence. Lets say bill gates, who doesn't believe in the innovation that he brings? everyone believes that his innovation will definitely be very useful and used by many people. Investors must be ready to support their funds, because they trust him. I think trust is seen in their background. just like bitcoin, when bitcoin is decentralized and not controlled by anyone, we will trust it and use it.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: if ETH hold above 168, downtrend will be over. on: September 29, 2019, 12:06:34 PM

if ETH hold above 168, downtrend will be over.
just an idea, the market is still very weak and bearish


It mainly depends on BTC and its behaviour rather than on ETH. ETH keeps disappointing investors throughout past two years and if ETH 2.0 would not change things, I hardly doubt that this coin would ever come back to 1k USD.
Yeah because the dominance of bitcoin is much greater in the crypto market, so I think the downtrend signal ends not on ETH but bitcoin. everyone will look at bitcoin market first to determine their choice of buying or selling, that is the fact. we often see that when the price of bitcoin falls, it is certain that many people will sell their assets including altcoin. ETH has an effect but only a small part.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoiners, don't give up yet. Bitcoin can't do it alone. on: September 29, 2019, 11:44:00 AM
as long as bitcoin survive altcoin will survive too
the reason why bitcoin survive is because there are altcoins on the side but imagine if bitcoin alone only exist , do you think bitcoin can last any longer ?

 i believe no because bitcoin have lack some key feature that a currency must or an investment asset must have   .

to be a good currency you should not be expensive than what you are buying and to be a good investment asset you shoudlnt be too expensive  . good thing altcoins have these benefits  .

Of course a bitcoin will survive even if it lives alone. same as first time present before. bitcoin doesn't depend on altcoin, so I don't think that bitcoin will die when altcoin disappears. Altcoin will disappear if bitcoin dies, because the dominance of bitcoin is very large for the crypto market. but I admit that bitcoin needs altcoin to complete it. bitcoin won't have this many users if there is no altcoin.
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why its hard to attract investors on: September 29, 2019, 10:57:23 AM
Before investors are everywhere in crypto currency specially mid 2017 but everything change
Ico's started to boom in the internet, you can choose a lot
of ico that you like, but then started to change , there are ico that are scam, running with investors money in a snap, lending platforms also can be seen, the same happens they suddenly disappear
we have already have a very good market if there are no scammers
they change everything, now investors are so hesitant whenever there is a new coin that are good but they opted out because they think its a scam, I think we should find a way to lessen or better eliminate them for good.
Scam is the main reason why it is so hard to attract investors nowadays ,
You already said it nobody wants to be scammed and most of the investor are playing safe now.
To be honest since early in 2018 I lost too much investment in ICO and IEO I know it is my fault because I didn't try hard enough to figure out that they were a scam project.
Honestly I'm not very interested in investing in certain projects because of the risk of a fairly large scam. You're right everyone will think twice if the investment is very often detrimental to investors. Scams are firsth things that are most often heard and the earliest to think about, if they think about ICO investments. So it is very reasonable if it is very difficult to attract investors because the system on ICO growth has not been organized yet.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: No trading volume is same as dead coin on: September 29, 2019, 10:01:19 AM
Are coins and tokens that have good value like 0.02 or even 0.2cent on exchanges with no volume the same bad news as coins that haven't made it to an exchange yet? what do you guys have to say about this? i am currently holding two different tokens with good value but no trading volume, any hope for such projects?

Even though tokens have good prices, if you don't have good transaction volume or liquidity in the market, I think it will be useless. Investors will always look for tokens or investments that can be withdrawn at any time because most investors tend to speculate from one coin to another
Agree, if investing in altcoins without volumes, when the market collapses, they will not be able to sell off their altcoins. and they will lose all their money
Its doesn't mean without volume. A coin must have a volume even small, but the market is so quiet, that there isn't even any movement of the price. most of these markets are only sellers, there is only volume in those who sell it. whereas those who buy only a small part or even 0. yeah of course it's the same as you buy dead coins, because you won't be able to sell your coins when no one wants to buy them right?
93  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Cock Fighting on: September 28, 2019, 12:13:23 PM

Last week someone shared me gamble where you can bet on cock fighting online. But on this platform we only use our national currency to cash in will convert it credits where 1PHP : 1 credits.
It's just sad because they don't accept Bitcoin. I having hardtime to cash in/cash out by going to any banks or remmitance.

Anyone here tried to gamble with cock fighting?
And maybe you know some websites that accepting Bitcoin.

This is the first time I read here that there is now a cockfighting online. Because most of the time I saw it live in the place I know.
For sure in the near future someone will create a gambling online like this that will accept bitcoin or crypto to play on this type
of gambling game.
I saw that picture and laugh Cheesy apparently there is a gambling site that really provides cock fighting gambling. judging by the name of the site "Sabong" it seems that the site is from my country, because "sabong" is the local language of my country specifically for cock fights. This is very rare, I want to try it actually.
94  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: September 27, 2019, 09:28:07 AM
Barca has nightmare start of the season
i think it is worst start from years.Now Messi is injured
i have feeling that Barca needs to develop team and be ready for Messi time end
It is not secret that he has problems with his leg.Some defenders know about it and they are attacking that leg
One day sooner than later rather Messi time will end and where will be Barca
Still there are great players in Barca team together with 16 years old revelation
Messi plays an important role in the team, all players and coaches rely too much on Messi to win the game so that even though Suarez and Griezmann play there are still many obstacles to win the match. Yeah I think it needs another messi coatings that have great prospects like messi to cover when messi still injury.
95  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money on: September 27, 2019, 08:17:08 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


So many factors and it depends on your status, and the society where you belong, like if you live in a country where shariah is the governing rules and Islam is the religion, you should respect what your religion preach to their followers, but if you are living in a liberal country and where gambling is very prevalent, then I don't think you will consider gambling is dirty money.
Yeah it depends on where you stand, if you believe in your religious teachings then do it and obey it. nobody forces you to play gambling. dirty money or not depends on everyone's perspective, because we know that everyone has various teachings about the law in life of their religion
96  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Emotions; while betting, will you risk losing your fund to back your club? on: September 27, 2019, 07:53:44 AM
Don't know how to put this but I'll try. So lets say your fav club is about playing against a tougher club which on paper they're far better than your club but in your inner most mind you want your club to win therefore, when it comes to placing a bet, which club will you go far. Will you risk losing the bet to back your team winning that match, when you know the chances of them succeeding are almost impossible but since it's football anything is possible or will you bet against you club winning that match but while the match is ongoing you'll be routing for your club to win (in other words routing for yourself to lose your bet)?

How do you balance the emotion of wanting your club to win but not ready to lose your bet in the toughest of games.

It's going to be depressing, so free yourself from this situation by not betting against your team, I have never done that in my sports betting when my team is facing a very strong team I just don't bet and cheer for my team unless I am comfortable betting against my favorite team.
Of course this is very sad, I have experienced this when my favorite team played, When Liverpool coach are Brendan rodgers, kenny dalglish, and some coaches. at that time liverpool did not have a good season, did not have a good game, often lost and draw, and of course It will be very risky if you remain determined to gamble for Liverpool to win. yeah its better not to gamble when you see your favorite team doesn't have a big chance of win.
97  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Manchester United VS Arsenal, Focus game of EPL Round 7 on: September 26, 2019, 05:35:23 AM
The two teams who were great rivals battling for the title will face off once again for a top 4 spot this season  Grin

Six games into the season and both teams hasn't found their footing yet. Looking at the current results, the gunners seems to have the better offense. The scoreline might end up like this Arsenal 3 - ManU 1
Of course, Man Utd is not in a good season, their last match end up in a draw even against a small team. a lot of people say that a lot of Man utd players are rubbish, lol and so do little kids said. so I don't think there's a chance for Man utd to win. but because of this big match of course this match is still interesting to watch.
98  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Regret In Changing A Bet Have You Experienced on: September 25, 2019, 06:49:13 AM
Regret in gambling is a common thing, it may come on both when we are winning and losing but of course it gamblers feel more regret on losing. Regret in winning is something like when we win but there comes into our mind "why I did not bet bigger". I experienced this many times already, especially when I was hunting big multiplier in any games such as plinko, slots, and dice. I hit big multiplier but I hit it in the beginning when my bet was small amount. I know it is a luck, I might not hit it if I bet bigger amount since start but most of the time I regret it why it comes when my bet is just small amount.
We know that regret is a natural thing, there is no win you get because of the analysis you do in gambling, it all depends on your luck.
so don't regret if your choice was wrong when you play gambling. it's not your fault, it's just that luck isn't on your side
99  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 25, 2019, 06:23:56 AM
I also feel Virgil probably deserved the award more than Messi.

I wouldn't say so, Messi also doesn't deserve the award any less and he was brilliant last season, you can't say he deserve it any less because of just one or two bad games in the season. Maybe you just need to check and review Messi's performance last season before making conclusion.
We have to admit that last year, there were many players who deserved this title, because I don't think there were any players who stood out last year, with top scores or winning all titles like Messi and Ronaldo did in previous seasons, it was difficult to determine who won if that conditions hapen, but whoever it is, some of the players on the list have a good performanc last season, even if it's not perfect yet, they deserved it.
100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Things That Comes Into Your Mind When Winning... on: September 25, 2019, 06:16:44 AM
Sometimes after winning, I win again. My problem is that I can not stop) Therefore, everything ends the same for me - I lose.

This is not really a good experience. It means you have to know that whenever you are winning, it is time to quit. This could help you since continuous playing will result you into losing.
Work on your emotion on that and you will be better.
it's rather difficult to stop when you win, it feels like you want to go back to play in order to get greater profits. it is normal for gambling players. your job now is to know how you can stop, each player must have that strategy to be able to stop playing. it is done so that they do not fall into addiction and bankruptcy. I'm sure every player can do that if they want.
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