Howcome there are 2 or 3 threads on this? WHat the fuck is going on?

Nope not new, I'll just quote what was said on the first page again and then try to explain my point better.

Just wanna say - it doesn't bother me personally, but your answer did not provide any arguments for why self-moderating is more beneficial to the project than the default setting where if someone seriously disturbs the thread the a forum moderator would take care of it - why is anything more than that needed at the cost of losing many people's trust?

Take a look at this thread to see that people do consider Self-moderating as a sign of a scam. Plain and simple. To many of them it looks like this:

"Self-moderating? Dev can and probably will delete all criticism even if it's valid, which is NOT something a strong coin would need to resort to. Or the Dev is preparing for the day they abandon ship and run with coins, while silencing all those who voice suspicions."

This was a paraphrased quote of what I read on IRC after telling people about the new Silk. So yeah, guess what people think about a coin that needs to feel the safety of a censor button? That it's WEAK and can't let people criticize it! It doesn't mean that is true, but that is what people logically assume because they have been burned by trusting someone before already and they have no reason to trust you! If we want to change that - start a new normal ANN thread for the interest of the general public where all concerns are free to be voiced. Then, change the title and the first post of this one so it becomes the self-moderated "Serious" community thread which won't have any of the garbage you think would befall the ANN thread.

We have a responsive community now and people being around to prove critics or fudders wrong will improve the coin's credibility! I repeat, I only want what's best for the coin as a stakeholder myself, which is why I want people not to run away with doubts because of a small matter such as this. It's good to stand up for our coin, but the way people do it on this forum is by using proof and arguments, not just deleting whatever they don't like!

Few more things - do we have an IRC presence? We should! We could take over both #silkcoin and #silk if someone with the access to github goes to #help on irc.freenode.net and PM's one the voiced (+ in front of name) people there and tell that you represent SilkCoin - the brand with its name in #silkcoin and #silk chat rooms that you would like to get ownership of, as the rightful representative of the project) and , then prove it with github and you will be passed ownership of those channels. Alternatively - /message Wavey (the owner of #Silk) or silkcoin (owner of #silkcoin) but they both appear offline so just ask the admins at #help #silkcoin is being spammed by a shitty bot owned by the previous operator of the room, I think, so as new owner you should also ban that. I think with help of admins it could also be possible to seize "silkcoin" nickname, as that is our brand too.

As many people as possible from the dev and management team should be hanging in the room - it increases user confidence A LOT if a dev is sometimes there to chat, answer to questions, tell some ETAs... And then a lot more people would join the chatroom because it would be a source of possible exclusive info.

Also - I think it would be nice to see much more details in the first post, I would personally like to see a list with all forum names of people involved in Silk and their main roles if any. The public doesn't see what happens on Trello so they have no idea how many people have actually volunteered to work hard as a team and deliver the true potential of the coin.

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As the dev didn't  say anything about changing the name or voting for change? If so quote it please and i'll apologize.
There are enought good arguments to why not change it just look throught the topic.

There is no rational reason. Of the 20 largest altcoin threads, only UTC, XC and ZEIT are self-moderated. Come on, with most people still bitter from the losses after the demise of the first team, Silk needs every bit of credibility it can get and I don't think this is helping the coin at all.

YES! 
lol

I like it!

Thanks for the efforts guys! New wallet syncs very quick!

I think we might see a strong comeback here very soon!

YES! 
lol

BTW, huge KUDOS to bishop for the code fixes and improvements. Looking forward to get the new wallet!


PS: I could help with sysadmin/automation work in the near future. Unfortunately too many obligations and no spare time right now.

Read the latest posts about bholzer's return on the other thread. I am a bit skeptical (I guess others as well). But I agree with arteleis' post to leave the negative speculation behind, because we've had enough already during the past weeks.

However, there is still the possibility that bholzer and others close to him played little games during the last week. Nothing can be done now. But, let's make sure it was the last time we gave such opportunities to anyone.

So doesnt the block explorer address need to change?  I noticed it referenced silk-coin.com.

Okay.  So who is our official web developer? I have domain ready for publishing.  Guess we need a protocol for transfering and verifying these and other tasks.  I make a motion that we elect community officers.

So you like it, right?

I will say one more thing : Crypto is not a game. I am not playing.
I invest my money, and i lose or win.

But when someone is taking this personally and lying about me, all hell breaks lose.
You don't play the game by its rules, i wont either. SO if i see one more post that incriminate me in SIlkcoin "scam" i will dedicate my whole freetime to ruin his fucking life, and i wont play by the rules, i swear i will be te the meanest motherfucker on hearth until i ruined ur life.
(that has never be a scam BTW, just an awesome coin that exploded because of FUDers and code issues.)

BTW, it seems that it is the FUDders friend that took over the SC. I am not sure of this (because i dont accuse people publiquely without real infos, i'm not a dick as some are) but it seems that theya re the scammers. But if they are, i wont post their adress like a fucking child, i'm gonna do this : Bravo, you understood how the world works.

And to the people that post my name and facebook page i repeat, come to me to see what happens.