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801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: November 27, 2023, 03:30:09 PM
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Sadly the American politics is not what it used to be. I would wait for the election campaign to further develop so I can decide where to put my money,. It would not matter to me if the odds are around 2-5.

You mean closer to the elections you'll know on whom to bet regardless of the odds? I mean, that's what this topic is about. Even now, when bettors think that Trump is 17% more likely to win than Biden, I think Joe Biden is going to win, but, of course, the closer to the elections, the more clear the picture becomes. We'll see. When do you think it's close enough to make our bets?
802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: November 27, 2023, 02:49:29 PM
For fun. I don't know about others but I gambled to relieved me of stress. People gamble because of a lot of reasons but most of the time the main goal is money. While many of us might think it should only be played as a gaining tons of money but I don't. If you observe closely you will see less developed countries gamble the most and have the most gamblers even thought they can't effort. Not only they can't effort is they are also addicted to it. The only thing they want is money money and money.

It' because the lack of proper education in those countries. You learn the basics of math and you know that you are more likely to lose than to win. Another thing that leads them to gamble in order to make money is superstition. They may know that they are more likely to lose, but they think their gods, spirits or whatever will help them to beat the odds. You are right in that you gamble not because you don't have sufficient money, but just for fun.
803  Economy / Economics / Re: Btc vs dollars on: November 27, 2023, 01:37:58 PM
Presently, should we say it's good the way bitcoin its been tied to dollars? Dollars is not backed up with any resources but to my understanding, bitcoin is a product of great energy surge. We shouldn't let bitcoin tied to dollars but bitcoin standing on its own. What could decide the durability and value of bitcoin? I have some ideas..

Bitcoin is "tied" to dollars as anything else, meaning it can be sold for dollars, but it's not like dollar loses its value and Bitcoin is following. In this sense Bitcoin is "standing on its own" like you said. What can decide Bitcoin's value is its utility. If most people in the world will be using BTC for various reasons, it will be valuable for sure.
804  Economy / Economics / Re: Cracking the Code of Saving Money... on: November 26, 2023, 12:51:30 PM
other tips are,,
when there is no sudden surprise bill.... PRETEND there is. and put money into an account as if you are paying a surprise bill/debt

then when an emergency comes. dont use a credit card. instead pretend the emergency savings is your credit card. where you got to pay it back +5% extra
every time you take from the account you have to return funds to the account +5%

Yes, that's actually a good advice. I would also suggest when there is a surprise win in your gambling, pretend there was no win and save the money for possible future needs. You can't do it always, for obvious reasons, but sometimes it can help you saving some money although it looks like you never have enough to save. And I agree with the other part too. After all 5% is never that significant, but after some time it can grow to a significant amount.
805  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: November 26, 2023, 12:23:46 PM
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Unfortunately, the feeling of gambling is what they make addicted, in addition, casinos invest in research and development about how to put more players getting sucked into the game. ~

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you mean that trying to make your product better is automatically implies making your customers addicted to your product? Then everyone is guilty, every company like Coca-Cola and others. Is that what you mean?

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Well, this is not to sound pessimistic but there would have never, and there will never be such a thing as no gambling addicts,, as long as its humans playing gambling, there will always be abuse, and abuse the major thing that gave or gives birth to addiction. ~

Yes, same as with food addicts, sex addicts and all the other human activities. Some people will always find a way to be addicted to something. If there's a nice and healthy activity, you can turn it into a dangerous one becoming addicted to it. 
806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: November 26, 2023, 10:49:02 AM
All employees must be warned in advance that gambling is not allowed in their workplace. However harmless responsible gambling can be, it is certainly distractive, and therefore online gambling shouldn't be allowed at any workplace. You can place a bet or two during your lunchtime, though I wouldn't recommend even that.
A gambling prohibition can never be truly obeyed by a gambler, for example country has gambling ban and this is clearly regulated in law, even if caught they can be fined and also imprisoned, but in reality they are still gambling secretly hide.

Can you be  imprisoned for gambling anywhere? I don't know, I think it's an exaggeration. I know you can be fined and you can be fired for gambling at work, but imprisoned?, I really doubt that.

From this it can be concluded that any prohibition can be violated by gamblers and they will avoid the risk of being caught gambling by hiding or gambling secretly.
As long as they can manage their time and limit what they do during work breaks, then it doesn't matter if they open gambling site to gamble for a while.
After all, gambling is their right and as long as it does not interfere with professional work then it can still be said that they are responsible gamblers.

Yep, that's what I thought. Even gambling at breaks can interfere with your work, theoretically, but if you forget about your gambling the minute get back to work, it's fine.
807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 26, 2023, 09:57:14 AM
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Everyone I think has their respective ways of funding their accounts on different gambling platforms but for me, I only leave very little amount of money in any gambling site I'm using no matter how reputable the site can be because there's a possibility of the site being hacked by external hackers which might lead to loss of money. I'll rather prefer the stress of depositing and withdrawing each time I want use a particular gambling site than to leave any fund of above $2 in it

You must be joking, right? The transaction fee is $2.54 right now. Would you really withdraw $5 with that fee? Also some sites wouldn't allow you to withdraw anything below $20, and their fees might be higher than those regular network fees. I think it depends on what kind of gambler you are, a high roller or just a simple guy like most gamblers, but in either case withdrawing anything below $40 is pointless.
808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: November 26, 2023, 09:22:52 AM
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~When an AI manages to win all the poker game s, all without exception, it seems something impossible but I don't know if we will ever see something like that, but at less than 100 games if it wins 95 it is something that is already scary, for now What humans can do is practice with AI to see how it can learn from them, as you say they have many strategies to be able to do, however with a machine it is difficult to play and win , we have an Important factor, which of Course sometimes make tricks that don't make sense , but Sometimes we play to have good luck and we can have it, which is very different from an AI where it plays with everything very calculated, an AI does not take risks because the things they have to do They are very punctual.
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No one is saying AI can win all the games. It's impossible. Take Daniel Negreanu and arrange a game between him and a random guy who just learned how to play poker yesterday, and you you can't guarantee that Daniel Negreanu will beat that guy in all games. Same with AI. But if in the course of many games AI surely wins the money, that can be scary to some humans, you are right.
809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: November 25, 2023, 11:37:38 AM
~ Hahaha this provider is not one of my favorite providers so I never play games from this provider unless participating in a challenge, I'm not saying this provider is bad just that I'm not familiar with it, even when some people share some of their winnings it hasn't caught my attention yet Grin I prefer hunting in Pragmatic and Nolimit City, especially in newly released games. Last month I managed to get Maxwin at Gates of Olympus, here if you want to watch  unfortunately I can't cash it out you definitely know the reason, I was too ambitious and kept hunting for other games until I finally rungkad  Cheesy

So far I haven't had any big wins even new games seem to ignore me one of which is Sugar Supreme Powernudge, I made 30 buy spins only got one win/ROI around x200 of the base bet and after that this game continues to suck up the balance  Undecided This is the first time I've seen a game from Pragmatic suck faster even though the maxwin is only x5000 I would understand if the maxwin was x10000 because the difficulty level is 2x higher.

Wow, you won 5,000x of your bet, and lost it all the same day? I just googles it and "rungkad" means "to lose" in Javanese, right?

Did you increase your bet size after winning, or what? I can't imagine how you could lose all those money otherwise.

I thought the maximum win in the Gates of Olympus was bigger than 5,000x, to be honest. Anyway, even though you lost it, Congrats on hitting the highest win possible! It's not every day that happens.
810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it! on: November 25, 2023, 10:58:15 AM
~ It can affect the child the other way round. In the developed world children often don't want be like their parents.  So, if their parents are gamblers the kids are not.
But I think the desire to not be like his parents is desire for career, not desire for gambling activities.
Gambling is an activity that provides curiosity and in gambling there is no age limit which can really pressure children or teenagers to have difficulty accessing it so that they can enter freely and without their parents knowing.
After all, who knew that children in developed countries would not have the potential to become gamblers and who knew that they would not be curious about gambling.
They all have the potential to become gamblers whether in developed or developing countries and it depends on the role of parents in providing education and guiding them in living life without gambling.

This is, of course, a very important part. Providing education for your kids so that they knew that it's very stupid to rely on gambling as a major income.

As for gambling for fun, there ain't anything wrong with that, imo, as long as your kid is of  legal age. Just explain that there are things that are meant for adults only, and gambling is one of them. When you are a small child, it's very likely that it will harm you.


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From here, we as parents must be able to prohibit them from gathering with groups of people who like to gamble so that they can avoid it or not try to gamble.

Normally, the people from those groups are older and hanging out with them is not only dangerous because you can start gambling, but because of many other things too. First you should teach your kid to spend time with kids of his age.
811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: November 25, 2023, 10:05:11 AM
~ A better approach is to always keep a certain portion (percentage) of the winnings withdrawn out of the gambling site. This way no matter if you win big or small, you will always be in a position to enjoy profits from gambling.

It depends on the amount you've won. If it's less than $100, and the site you are playing on is legit, it's better to leave it there for your future play, in my opinion. I'm not saying you will win more out of it(although it's possible), but rather it will be your balance to have fun with gambling for months ahead. You can be enjoying your profits from gambling this way, you know.
812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: November 25, 2023, 09:37:52 AM
~ The best thing is to allocate the money you are willing to lose per session, and the player's way of playing can be whatever he wants. What is important is that if he loses the money, he Should not put in more money because it is very likely that it will also be lost. lose and even less if it is to seek to recover the profits, as well as when you win, well or better it is to withdraw that money to enjoy and enjoy the profits that were had for that eugo session, that is my recommendation on what my Responsible Game.


That's right. Allocate what you can afford to lose and play however you want with it, that's the best way to gamble. You can win a big amount that way if you are lucky, but what's more important is that when Luck isn't on your side, you won't lose something that will make you feel sad. You can gamble like this for years without bad consequences, and one day you'll hit your big win and that'll make you happy even if the cumulative amount of of your losses is bigger overall.
813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 25, 2023, 09:15:00 AM
Gambling is dependent on luck, but we can be on the profiting side if we know when to stop and take a break. Most of us don't follow it, just the wins keep us high and we go for increased bet value. The same ends our wager at the shortest. To be on the safer side better choice is to spend on sports betting than casino games.

Sports betting is good only if you know what you are doing. You can bet blindly on purely luck-based games like slots and you'll get the same results as if you were maximally concentrated, but try do that with sports betting and you will lose all your bets.

And regarding "know when to stop", we never know. That's life. Smiley
814  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 25, 2023, 08:32:11 AM
For reaching tier 2 you would have to wager 0.005 BTC. If you make many bets to reach this amount then you will likely end up losing an amount that corresponds to the house edge which is about 0.00025, which isn't too devastating. If you only make a few bets the results can be more volatile but if you use a low multiplier then you are more likely to have a positive result. The only time I've gone for the flash promo bonus I made fewer than 10 bets with a 1.01 multiplier and won all of them.

Ah, I almost forgot that 1.01 multiplier counts.

I'll keep that in mind the next time the promo rolls around again. Thanks!

1.01x is a dangerous multiplier, in my opinion. At least it's like that for me. Normally I lose definitely more than once during a hundred bets, and it's a stressful loss that you don't expect. I've noticed that betting with 47.50% win chance is more entertaining and it gives you the same result regarding wagering in the long run.
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817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: November 22, 2023, 12:19:33 PM
Yep, Im a loser on slots. Need to hit a max multi to get it all back.
Most of the loss was on pragmatic slots and the highest multiplier ever perhaps only 700x ish.
Note, got max scatters doesnt mean you will hit something big, been there a few times and failed to be rich ..

Max multipliers are different from slot to slot. Some are just 5,000x or some others, like Tombstone RIP by NoLimit City, can give you 300,000 times the base bet. And I believe 300kx is not the highest level actually.

You said your highest multiplier is around 700x, and that is not that bad actually. I can't imagine how you could have negative profit of tens of thousands USD (because this is what the highest multiplier  would cover).
818  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ Champions League ⚽ PSG v Newcastle ⚽ (Tuesday, 28 November) on: November 22, 2023, 12:01:31 PM
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c. PSG
d. Newcastle
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f. PSG
g. PSG
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819  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: November 21, 2023, 12:48:58 PM
~ He doesn't care with other people argument, he only care by his story and hoping/supporting people who have the same thought with him.

No, #ryzaadit .... we should encourage discussions like this, because there are a lot of people who does not understand the "house edge" and how different games work.

Let's use this discussion as an educational opportunity for other people apart from BlackyJacky to learn more about this. I think a lot of conflict can be prevented, if people knew how these things work, but casinos are not really helping to explain it.  Roll Eyes
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I agree. Usually, when someone replies to a troll and this reply is thorough, it's not for the troll to read, it's for the other people who might be interested in the question. If Stake doesn't want this discussion in their official thread, they can say so and this discussion will be stopped here. Otherwise I'm personally glad that it's going on.
820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: November 21, 2023, 12:03:01 PM
~ Trading is very similar to gambling, I agree with you on that. Especially if we compare trading with sports betting. That's why trading too shouldn't be a major income for some people. I personally know a guy whose "job" is to trade crypto currencies. Luckily for him his wife is very wealthy, and it's nothing for then that he loses several thousand USD each year with his "job". If you ask me, this guy would better be trading for fun. Smiley
Maybe someone can predict the result in cryptocurrency trading, I don`t know. I can say only that i don`t understand trading and don`t believe that someone can trade with profit for several months at least. I tried to copy signals and failed, so i don`t repeat it. If i can predict some football match - i can try to get some money from it. If i don`t understand how to trade - i don`t want even to try.

But failing couple of times is nothing. You know it, if you do sports betting on a regular basis. Fails happen, right? No one is winning all the time. I'm not saying you should do more trading. If you like sports betting then do what you like. I just want to say that a few unsuccessful tries don't imply you are bad at trading.

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And you are right, in my opinion. These so called "traders" not much different from gamblers in many cases. Trading, like gambling, shouldn't be your major income.
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