hmmmm polo wallet open and 1/2 mil coins move.............
That has been explained. Hopefully. Anyway, sent a test coin and it arrived on poloniex 20 minutes later. |
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Wow. So all it takes to convince you of anything is putting up a few fake facebook pages. Nice. Fake? Source? |
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This is a reply by one of the devs to some questions from investors on chat just now:
boxxa:
omg waaaaaa
i want SEC filings and answers for every dream i have
waaaa
waaaaaaaaa
Investors take note.
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Errr, that's just cash, like Pingit from Barclays in the UK.
The reason they use phones is that many don't have internet connections at home.
It's all there in the article you linked, if you read it.
Nothing to do with crypto.
You are a smart guy work it out, he is saying that the same system could be set up, but with cryptos , and they can use the system on the res ? that is obvious right? that is what he was trying to say? but you can see that right? Look at the reasons the Kenyans have taken to it...... They all have phones, not PCs. The want to send money, quickly, to rural areas where there is no internet access. It's safer than cash in a slightly dangerous country. A lot of them live in very, very remote locations. It is cash, they understand it. Your comparing Kenya with the States, you're mad. You know, your adherence to calling me names rather than give constructive criticism is quite childish - have you spent your dad's money on Maza? ha ha no need for it old chap. 1) where did I call you a name in that post? so yeah what ever you say dear. 2) You are still missing the point, come on you are smarter than this... never said it was money, I was pointing out that the guys was saying they could use a similar system on the res, and they could.. and they probably will, before they build a playground. 3) I have been to Kenya 4) I did not compare Kenya and USA, are yo having trouble reading? 5) I am a self made man, thanks, my father never gave me a penny since I was 14, and lives in another country I hardly see him. 6) I bought a fair amount of Maza, not "all of my money" that would be insane, and I am not insane old chap- I have covered the cost of my investment and a good few more BTC than 3.6bts to boot thanks.. 7) This is a new coin  You seem to have a bit of a god complex- used to getting your own way? never wrong? Like I said, childish. |
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Forget food pantrys and the like, they can be polarising, a lot of people resent handouts to adults.
Publicity is in sex, animals and children - in that order.
I am sure there are plenty of poor children that could benefit from a food pantry. It doesn't just have to be for adults. And I look at it from the perspective of actually helping someone, not what gets the most publicity. The point to maza shouldn't be to just drum up interest/newspaper articles, but to actually help someone. But it will never help anyone if the price doesn't go up, and quickly. EAC started with similar intentions and had a better, safer start than Maza, but it is now on the floor because people couldn't be realistic and pragmatic about it's future. And how is a playground not helping someone? Anyway, you've all got hung-up on it being a playground, it was only a suggestion, so what do you suggest? |
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Errr, that's just cash, like Pingit from Barclays in the UK.
The reason they use phones is that many don't have internet connections at home.
It's all there in the article you linked, if you read it.
Nothing to do with crypto.
You are a smart guy work it out, he is saying that the same system could be set up, but with cryptos , and they can use the system on the res ? that is obvious right? that is what he was trying to say? but you can see that right? Look at the reasons the Kenyans have taken to it...... They all have phones, not PCs. The want to send money, quickly, to rural areas where there is no internet access. It's safer than cash in a slightly dangerous country. A lot of them live in very, very remote locations. It is cash, they understand it. Your comparing Kenya with the States, you're mad. You know, your adherence to calling me names rather than give constructive criticism is quite childish - have you spent your dad's money on Maza? |
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Is there no mileage in providing infrastructure for the Lakota from the premine? A free playground, for instance, with lots of smiley, happy photos of kids in newspapers and websites? Completely negates the possibility of a dump? Could provide publicity over many months rather than just one hit? Negates the need to have to educate the Lakota in the ways of crypto, they can learn about it organically? I seems worthy of discussion to me, but instead I'm a puss filled gambler or something. You guys.......  There has been some very good discussions surrounding the tech barrier. RFIDS, NFC, portable transaction devices could work very well. Old Samsung phone drives, to get smartphones into the hands of everyone. Personally IMO each community should train a broker to help invest and cash in when needed. There is a Maza ebay type market already, they just need a liaison to help people get their products online. There are some very strong indigenous markets out there. Some of the products can be worth a lot of money to many ppl around the world. This facebook group for the small town of Iqaluit has a thriving market. https://www.facebook.com/groups/148530435247065/Playground for a photo op, seriously?  Yes, really, why not? You are trying to attract"average joes" aren't you? Joes have baby joes, baby joes sell newspapers. How can providing a playground possibly not be good? Your plan on the other hand is riddled with holes, will take a long, long time and is complicated. You've got to get people interested in a coin that is on the floor and "discussions about RFID and NFC" are just mental. You are asking people to fit in with the coin, it needs to be the other way around. You're trying to run before you can walk. Average joes don't want complicated, they want easy - and still there is that looming dump........ Discounting the intelligence of the average person is definitely not a virtue. Kenya leads the world in paying with things with a simple phone. It's not that pie in the sky. Kenya FFS... "around 25% of the country’s gross national product flows through it. M-PESA lets people transfer cash using their phones - See more at: http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2013/05/economist-explains-18#sthash.lC3aeykN.dpuf" Errr, that's just cash, like Pingit from Barclays in the UK. The reason they use phones is that many don't have internet connections at home. It's all there in the article you linked, if you read it. Nothing to do with crypto. |
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Is there no mileage in providing infrastructure for the Lakota from the premine?
A free playground, for instance, with lots of smiley, happy photos of kids in newspapers and websites?
This is what I sort of assumed they originally planned to do with the premine. Not a playground, but something related to community service -- food pantry, some funds for small businesses, that sort of thing. Basically use the premine for something the group could use, rather than give each individual 1000 maza. It's so much more problematic to hand out crypto to every single person, and it doesn't help if the people don't know what crypto is nor have a way to use it. The thing that bugs me the most is the fact that the developers won't post here. I mean, people spent like 3 days fighting off FUD (and I mean real FUD, not just normal concerns) --the android artifact thing, Herp going insane, etc. and yet nobody from the maza team would say a word here in the forums. That, and then I saw the MZC water challenge on youtube (my basic reaction to it was wtf)... I realize many here may want Payu to go jump in a lake at this point, but I'd think he could use his time much more wisely to help the coin. I don't think maza is a scam. I just question whether the developers have any idea what they are doing. Just watched the video, well a bit of it. I think it's fair to say he's run out of ideas,,,,,, or was there a price spike associated with this clip? |
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Is there no mileage in providing infrastructure for the Lakota from the premine?
A free playground, for instance, with lots of smiley, happy photos of kids in newspapers and websites?
This is what I sort of assumed they originally planned to do with the premine. Not a playground, but something related to community service -- food pantry, some funds for small businesses, that sort of thing. Basically use the premine for something the group could use, rather than give each individual 1000 maza. It's so much more problematic to hand out crypto to every single person, and it doesn't help if the people don't know what crypto is nor have a way to use it. The thing that bugs me the most is the fact that the developers won't post here. I mean, people spent like 3 days fighting off FUD (and I mean real FUD, not just normal concerns) --the android artifact thing, Herp going insane, etc. and yet nobody from the maza team would say a word here in the forums. That, and then I saw the MZC water challenge on youtube (my basic reaction to it was wtf)... I realize many here may want Payu to go jump in a lake at this point, but I'd think he could use his time much more wisely to help the coin. I don't think maza is a scam. I just question whether the developers have any idea what they are doing. Forget food pantrys and the like, they can be polarising, a lot of people resent handouts to adults. Publicity is in sex, animals and children - in that order. |
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Is there no mileage in providing infrastructure for the Lakota from the premine? A free playground, for instance, with lots of smiley, happy photos of kids in newspapers and websites? Completely negates the possibility of a dump? Could provide publicity over many months rather than just one hit? Negates the need to have to educate the Lakota in the ways of crypto, they can learn about it organically? I seems worthy of discussion to me, but instead I'm a puss filled gambler or something. You guys....... There has been some very good discussions surrounding the tech barrier. RFIDS, NFC, portable transaction devices could work very well. Old Samsung phone drives, to get smartphones into the hands of everyone. Personally IMO each community should train a broker to help invest and cash in when needed. There is a Maza ebay type market already, they just need a liaison to help people get their products online. There are some very strong indigenous markets out there. Some of the products can be worth a lot of money to many ppl around the world. This facebook group for the small town of Iqaluit has a thriving market. https://www.facebook.com/groups/148530435247065/Playground for a photo op, seriously? Yes, really, why not? You are trying to attract"average joes" aren't you? Joes have baby joes, baby joes sell newspapers. How can providing a playground possibly not be good? Your plan on the other hand is riddled with holes, will take a long, long time and is complicated. You've got to get people interested in a coin that is on the floor and "discussions about RFID and NFC" are just mental. You are asking people to fit in with the coin, it needs to be the other way around. You're trying to run before you can walk. Average joes don't want complicated, they want easy - and still there is that looming dump........ |
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Is there no mileage in providing infrastructure for the Lakota from the premine? A free playground, for instance, with lots of smiley, happy photos of kids in newspapers and websites? Completely negates the possibility of a dump? Could provide publicity over many months rather than just one hit? Negates the need to have to educate the Lakota in the ways of crypto, they can learn about it organically? It seems worthy of discussion to me, but instead I'm a puss filled gambler or something. You guys....... Edit: Ooooh, just dipped into three figures,....... again........ |
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OK we're gonna hear again how this is a scam and "conmen" are running things despite the premine intact and the coin working as planned, I'm just telling you over...
That gives me a idea. Payu should take the pre-mine and distribute to us current MZC holders. Because the whole coins is so screwed up with miners dumping 3.6 million to the market every day! It is worthless for him anyway , 1000 MZC grant is few cents. None from tribes will bother. So take the 50 million pre-mine and distribute proportionally to current MZC holders -- that gives us an edge against the miners. Will stabilize! it is only fair No, use it to generate publcity. |
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As to the naysayers and haters.
I don't think they're here to push down price, not worth the bother and I don't think its effective. I also don't think they're here out of spite, no one would hang on that long after they cut their loss and ran. So what does that leave? Bitcoiners worried about the rise of national currencies, maybe, but they've got their own things to worry about and should by now expect that alts will succeed as BTC succeeds - there will be no bitcoin only future. So maybe Fudsters are from the gov? I don't think so, they would be much more concerned with Bitcoin right now to bother.
What does that leave? Racism. Now I'm not accusing those who are here for legit conversation, I can be critical too, but I'm referring to the people that just won't give up saying the same things over and over with a very negative attitude. The old thread definitely had some racist comments earlier on, but they died down after it was evident how ineffective that is for rallying support. I believe the ones who really can't leave it alone and seem to be here despite no stake in the coin are here because they see the potential in this coin and will do whatever necessary to fight it out of hatred. Prove me wrong, explain what the motivation could possible be.
Whatever the scope of this thread and the last. I promise you day traders and fudsters are not here to save you money. Figure out why they're here for yourself.
Edit: maybe this isn't an issue here anymore, I just have no time for this much reading.
The reason I kept posting is because many of you who put money into Maza are unlikely to invest in anything else again and a conman was trying to get rich - I was also, to be honest, fascinated with watching the car crash. You are right, I am a day trader and I am here to take your money off you, but there will be no-one to take money from if crypto gets a reputation for out and out conmen. Please guys, be more careful next time - trust no-one, this is a game. Ahh the I told you so daytrader that admits to spreading FUD about Mazacoin to steal cheap coins from the Noobs?..So noble of you Suckass..The coin is not dead it is less than a month old fool!.. Anyone that would pray on the noobs would club baby seals IMO.. I made two buys at the very start of the spike, I didn't admit to spreading FUD, it's a waste of time, much more profit in doing research. Do you really think I am partly responsible for the Maza crash? I'm flattered...... No i don't and i wouldn't believe you if you were standing on a stack of bibles reciting a prayer.. guys like you are the reason wars are fought. to come over here and gloat just because we are having a correction and telling all of us we are a cult..you're just one ignorant person.. Mazacoin is attempting something that has never been done in the crypto world..Is they succeed we ALL succeed..if they Fail we all Fail.. This is a chance to break the chains that have been around our neck since 1913 and since then the dollar has lost 97% of its buying power! We can start to take it back and help out some folks that don't deserve the treatment they have received from our Government over the last 100 years! That is WHAT Mazacoin is all about.And you don't deserve to own it!..So go back to herpy and report the cult is still going strong! So, I only came here to gloat, despite spending 30 minutes explaining my thought processes and ways in which I thought things could be improved - that's 30 minutes more constructive thought than you have managed. Ok, you just want to bitch and have someone else do the heavy lifting for you - fair enough. See you at the next fail coin bitranger. |
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Fucking hell, really Remi?
I saw the publicity, saw the beginning of the spike, bought in, sold when it was close to top (educated guess plus using a "formula" I have developed for myself)) and put in 80% of my total BTC - I wasn't gambling and your continued denials continue to cost you money.
haha, yes every gambler out there has a system. I'll show you one to win the lotto! Thanks for the chuckle, night all. No problem, thanks for the BTC! Sweet dreams.... |
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@sussex
I think your last comment is a bit harsh. From what I've read and the impressions I've formed about the airteam do not lead me to think this is the case.
However, I am concerned about this initial, let's call in conversion instead of that nasty 'd' word. What volumes are we talking about? Is there a floor in the price you will not sell below? I'd imagine you'll have to slowly release them on the open exchange but at block 19,000+ there's already 70,000 odd AIR available so demand will have to be there for the pool to cash some of its AIR into BTC.
I never used the "D" word? It was a straightforward question and being first on the exchange could be legitimate in the sense of having a working pool of coins (or it could be malicious), but how can I make that judgement without having an answer? The impression I have of the devs is also favourable, but I've mis-judged things before. Anyway, this isn't really about the legitimacy of the devs, but a straightforward question about the mechanism. |
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I like this coin and I don't think is a scam. But posting all time about whales, manipulation and predicting a 10-20-30-100k when price is falling and falling + calling FUD all non optymistic posts about MZC = lying to yourself and something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndromeBlind faith is not good. We are not in church. It's crypto market. We need brain, not faith. Where is dev? Let this fucking price start to rise. They said 1$ this year? Ok, alright, I want just 0.1$. But quick:) Ok, I saw a $5 /MZC spike predicted by Anonymos Pirate for short term. $ 2 - $ 3 per coin long term he said. How do you expect the dev to raise it exactly to that, huh? He is god right? maza will be under 700 satoshis in a week It'll be this weekend, when traders who bought last weekend give up on it and markets tend to fall anyway. |
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Lol, nobody here has sold so you being some cool tuff guy saying you got our money is incorrect. But if that makes you feel better then go for it.
OMG! I made 3.7BTC profit on Maza, it's in my wallet, where do you think it came from? Really, if this is your understanding of economics and markets, you shouldn't be here. I'm not cool and I'm not "tuff"..... I do use a calculator though. Not from me! Also, if you think $2k profit is something to be proud of, then you're a little fish. I can lose $20k and not lose sleep over it. So applause for you 3.7 btc profit. You da man! Once you start earning 7 figures a year then come gloat. Yes, my profit came from you, you lost it the moment you handed your BTC over for Maza - are you really that daft? I am a little fish, a little fish with a 200%+ profit - what are you, a rich moron throwing money away? Why not just give it to the Lakota people directly? It's a good job you don't lose sleep over $20k, it must happen a lot. Like I said, you joined a cult. Quick suckass herpies puss filled coldsore is ozzing again better get back over there and help him suck it out I'm sure that will pump the price, let me go buy some Maza. Well done!!! What price does Maza need to reach before it makes sense to you? |
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Lol, nobody here has sold so you being some cool tuff guy saying you got our money is incorrect. But if that makes you feel better then go for it.
OMG! I made 3.7BTC profit on Maza, it's in my wallet, where do you think it came from? Really, if this is your understanding of economics and markets, you shouldn't be here. I'm not cool and I'm not "tuff"..... I do use a calculator though. Buys and sells like he's at a casino. This is why Bitcoin still has trouble gaining traction in the mainstream. Far too many gamblers and few too many investors. I have proudly never sold any virtual currency - EVER. I'm waiting for the day we're free of banks and I can use them for goods. . . .So long as gamblers continue to plague this movement we can expect more centralization, tyranny and violence. But congrats on what you think is a profit, have you converted into something real yet I hope? Otherwise it remains a number on a screen. I bought MZC at 500 and I'll gladly ride it right back down there. I believe in it, this is a good focus for a coin, this can help people. It's not always gambling, sometimes it's a certainty, like Maza was. Oh, by the way everyone, the whales are long gone, there is no money in Maza to interest them. haha, what was certain? That you jumped in and out at some arbitrary point in a coin's existence and got lucky? No one, unless they're a manipulating whale, does anything but gamble when daytrading. Fucking hell, really Remi? I saw the publicity, saw the beginning of the spike, bought in, sold when it was close to top (educated guess plus using a "formula" I have developed for myself)) and put in 80% of my total BTC - I wasn't gambling and your continued denials continue to cost you money. |
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As to the naysayers and haters.
I don't think they're here to push down price, not worth the bother and I don't think its effective. I also don't think they're here out of spite, no one would hang on that long after they cut their loss and ran. So what does that leave? Bitcoiners worried about the rise of national currencies, maybe, but they've got their own things to worry about and should by now expect that alts will succeed as BTC succeeds - there will be no bitcoin only future. So maybe Fudsters are from the gov? I don't think so, they would be much more concerned with Bitcoin right now to bother.
What does that leave? Racism. Now I'm not accusing those who are here for legit conversation, I can be critical too, but I'm referring to the people that just won't give up saying the same things over and over with a very negative attitude. The old thread definitely had some racist comments earlier on, but they died down after it was evident how ineffective that is for rallying support. I believe the ones who really can't leave it alone and seem to be here despite no stake in the coin are here because they see the potential in this coin and will do whatever necessary to fight it out of hatred. Prove me wrong, explain what the motivation could possible be.
Whatever the scope of this thread and the last. I promise you day traders and fudsters are not here to save you money. Figure out why they're here for yourself.
Edit: maybe this isn't an issue here anymore, I just have no time for this much reading.
The reason I kept posting is because many of you who put money into Maza are unlikely to invest in anything else again and a conman was trying to get rich - I was also, to be honest, fascinated with watching the car crash. You are right, I am a day trader and I am here to take your money off you, but there will be no-one to take money from if crypto gets a reputation for out and out conmen. Please guys, be more careful next time - trust no-one, this is a game. Ahh the I told you so daytrader that admits to spreading FUD about Mazacoin to steal cheap coins from the Noobs?..So noble of you Suckass..The coin is not dead it is less than a month old fool!.. Anyone that would pray on the noobs would club baby seals IMO.. I made two buys at the very start of the spike, I didn't admit to spreading FUD, it's a waste of time, much more profit in doing research. Do you really think I am partly responsible for the Maza crash? I'm flattered...... |
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Ok kiddo. I'm such a stupid sucker and yet I've made several business deals for more money you cannot even fathom, but I'm just the sucker. Why are you here again? You don't support maza and just seem to be here now for the "I told you so" effect. Feel free to continue but my conversation with you will end now.
That's cool, I'm busy working out my profit margin anyway......  |
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