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8481  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 20, 2016, 02:33:38 PM
You will know when a site is trying to scam you if it doesn't replies to your queries. Like for example if you have encounter in making a deposit or requesting a withdrawal, of course you will contact their support to solve the problem, if they do nothing within 1-2 days then probably it is a scam.

Sometimes yes, but most of the time, they have a sweet tongue. They talk very nice and even assist you in depositing. Aside from the sites security, what I always look at when I am about to deposit in a site is the reviews in the internet. No review, I won't deposit, Negative reviews, well that's a sign that it's not worth it to deposit and do a business with such site.
Those particular things are already a red flag for me on which its really an obvious thing that a certain site is a pure scam.If I do read a review and most of them are negative then I skip it right away.Yes,you are right most scammers would really use the sweetest words that you could possibly heard off and they would definitely lure you to invest on their site and if you are a newbie with less knowledge then you will get easily hooked.
8482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Zcash worth to invest in it? on: December 20, 2016, 01:02:47 PM

All of them was running with the zero knowledge. But KOMODO was preferring for my personally.



https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/
At this time the supply at 216k.
The current price of ZEC 0.056 and assuming about if the supply was an increase until a million ZEC and the current price will be divided.
Might the other price of ZEC if the supply will touch a million.
0.056/3(at a million supply the total was tripled with the current supply) 0.018 for each ZEC.
This trend will be running for few years later.  Roll Eyes

Agree. I think that after the first four years of mining since launch of Zcash, we will be able to see its true price. Miners will keep mining for founders reward until the period of four years is over, which is why I think that by then the price of ZEC would stabilize.

If I were to pick the best Zero Knowledge Proof coin right now, it would be Komodo. It has pretty amazing features like dPoW which will make the network as strong as Bitcoin itself. Just sharing my thoughts.  Grin
I don't think so that this coin would even reach on 4 years time.Well I cant conclude since all possibilities might really happen on a certain coin and we don't know the future on what would be the plans of devs of zcash but in the situation of it right now I could say its just a high hype type of coin and doesn't get my attention and doesn't have any feature that really interest me on.You are right Komodo have potential compare to this.
8483  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Share Your Daily Result Bitcoin on: December 20, 2016, 11:14:07 AM
Last year I mining bitcoin using 1THZ power and got 3 - 5$ a day
how about your mining result now? share it here
Good to hear that you are earning good amount on daily basis on mining bitcoin which I do really like to mine too but I don't have any capability to invest on asic miners or any other miners that could able to mine bitcoin since its not really possible to mine bitcoin through GPU. Just as mentioned above about cloudmining sites I don't really like to invest on it because most of them are just a scam.
8484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: December 20, 2016, 09:23:56 AM
I would play with my profits since it basically more then i had before i won.
Though its likely a good idea to pull out your winnings but ehh.

Gambling is so funny and people who do it even more so, I will withdraw when I get x profit, x profit comes and the goals get wider, it is never enough for 99% of people.

Yeah very funny, they will withdraw their profit and then gamble again with their capital and in the end if they lose they will use again their profit for gambling again. So what's the sense of your profit if you don't know how to secure your profit, better to use your profit if you will still gamble or secure it and withdraw it and stop for the day.
Gambling is so funny?In which way does it makes a funny thing? maybe you are mentioning about fun and not funny since they do have different meanings.You are right most people will surely gamble again with their capital.Shall we say that they could able to withdraw their capital and they play with their profits and when those amounts were lose then they will deposit again to chase back again the profits.
8485  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hasheer Mining Cloud on: December 19, 2016, 03:31:50 PM
There's already a thread for it  check this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1720476.0 and how could all inquirer about that site is newbie?
Yes it seems both of this thread are connected and may be OP is same person for both thread. Hasheer is already a known scam ponzi and anyone can easily detect that they aren't operating any mining farm. May be owner of hasheer himself is trying to promote his obvious scam here with new accounts.

I don't think so, everyone who run something like this know, that here community very fast is ruining plans of promotion scam projects.
For example i didn't hear about this service before I found this thread.
Probably it is beginning of end this Ponzi scheme..

Ponzi scheme well never be end since there are so many people referring it to other people just to get the incentives, and so by that scamming incedent will not be stop at this point, and it will be truly stop if all people well cooperate and stop pasting it on social media sites, if that really happen the life of newbies well be at ease and they will not be scam again by those damn cloudmining/hyips.

You are right, but usually when someone is trying to promote Ponzi here on Bitcointalk, very fast we can show his true intentions. Many new Bitcoin users can see that here can get true informations. I think it should be the task of Bitcointalk - next time before anyone will invest money, first come here and ask ..
How i wish that all people that are engage into bitcoin specially on newbies will go here on this forum infact they could able to learn important things here on bitcoin world that would able to help them out specially into scams. Newbies are really prone to scams since they do lack of knowledge into things,we all know that since we are once a newbie before and we experienced this kind of scenario.

I remember very well how easily I was able to believe in easy money .. Wink I even remember PBmining  Angry
I think Bitcointalk helps new users - this topic may be an example of this.
I think the bigger problem for many new users may be language. Sometimes they are just ashamed to ask, due to poor knowledge of English.

Sorry for off top Smiley
Language is really a barrier but if you are a person who would like to know there are lots of ways to know exactly what we are saying now which they could able to use google translate anytime and also its really impossible for a person couldn't understand even a simple English. Back to topic cloudmining is really a waste of money on which most newbies do fall for it because we do believe on easy money that's why we easily fall for this one.
8486  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hasheer Mining Cloud on: December 19, 2016, 03:09:24 PM
There's already a thread for it  check this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1720476.0 and how could all inquirer about that site is newbie?
Yes it seems both of this thread are connected and may be OP is same person for both thread. Hasheer is already a known scam ponzi and anyone can easily detect that they aren't operating any mining farm. May be owner of hasheer himself is trying to promote his obvious scam here with new accounts.

I don't think so, everyone who run something like this know, that here community very fast is ruining plans of promotion scam projects.
For example i didn't hear about this service before I found this thread.
Probably it is beginning of end this Ponzi scheme..

Ponzi scheme well never be end since there are so many people referring it to other people just to get the incentives, and so by that scamming incedent will not be stop at this point, and it will be truly stop if all people well cooperate and stop pasting it on social media sites, if that really happen the life of newbies well be at ease and they will not be scam again by those damn cloudmining/hyips.

You are right, but usually when someone is trying to promote Ponzi here on Bitcointalk, very fast we can show his true intentions. Many new Bitcoin users can see that here can get true informations. I think it should be the task of Bitcointalk - next time before anyone will invest money, first come here and ask ..
How i wish that all people that are engage into bitcoin specially on newbies will go here on this forum infact they could able to learn important things here on bitcoin world that would able to help them out specially into scams. Newbies are really prone to scams since they do lack of knowledge into things,we all know that since we are once a newbie before and we experienced this kind of scenario.
8487  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where profitable Cloud Mining? on: December 19, 2016, 02:39:58 PM
hallo guys....

I'm still a newbie here, I read and read about seems good lucrative mining bitcoin
But after I did "Research", there are two types of bitcoin mining namely: Mining using GPU and Cloud Mining

but now I am confused, where a good way to get bitcoin

please advice from guys that really helped me
thank you
Mining bitcoin with the use of GPU is not possible already nowadays since you will need to use asic miners to mine bitcoin.GPU mining could possibly used on altcoin mining like ETH,XMR and etc. there are lots to choose from.Never mind on cloud mining because most of them are just pure scams which is really a waste of money and better to stay away from this and don't intend to spend even a single penny on it.
8488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WHOOPS>>.. POLO random new delistings causing flash crash - irresponsible on: December 19, 2016, 12:44:56 PM
Without a warning is bad though

this is the waring.

On January 4th 2017, the following markets will be delisted: MMNXT, BITCNY, NBT, DIEM, LTBC, RDD, XST, XCN, XDN, SYNC, CGA, GEO, BLOCK, 1CRPosted by MobyDick at 2016-12-19 04:33:10

or should they warn some VIP traders before this? or even they did this. who knows.
If they give a warning why we are still arguing regarding on delisting those low volume coins.I think its just a right thing to do to free up some space and delisting those all shitcoin.Some people do have point that they bought a particular coin and wait for a pump but delisting those would really be a bad thing for them.
8489  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: December 19, 2016, 11:36:11 AM
You can do some trading what is nice to do and also profitable or just do some signature campaigns that can also be done easily and is profitable without any risk at all for sure.
The earnings from signature campaign is far from 1 bitcoin in a month. I think you can make 1 bitcoin a year if you're a high rank member here. But OP is looking for a way to make 1 bitcoin in a month. I would suggest staying away from any investment site, and gambling site to eliminate the chance of you even losing more money.

Gambling is the fastest way to make money but it's also the riskiest. I wouldn't recommend it as most people have lost a lot of money because of gambling.

Altcoin trading wouldn't give you 1 bitcoin in a month unless you're an experienced trader and you have decent bankroll. To become one, you just have to study and read a lot of articles written by experienced altcoin traders. I would recommend investing on new altcoins and don't try to revive dead coins because there's no chance for them getting back on track.

A high rank can earn 1 Bitcoin in 20 weeks. Ya, that's not possible to get 1 Bitcoin with signature campaign in a month or two.

Gambling is based on luck. If one person loses , the other wins. You can even double your investment or even lose everything.

OP doesn't want to make a investment from Fiat. So he can do trading with the money he earned.

The most profitable way to earn is referral system. You didn't invest anything. And get a part of earnings.
Yeah, I guess. But you need to be somewhat popular on the internet to have referrals. People make blogs about websites and then put their referral code in the bottom. They earn good money out of this back then when people don't know anything about ponzi sites. Today, you can only do this in gambling sites and it's kind of hard to get a referral unless you have your own blog site. In this forum, you're not even allowed to post referral links.

There are lots of scams starting daily. Referral system of most of Ponzi , give the referrers profits without any investment. Actually these people are in a way, taking a part of earnings of Ponzi scheme earnings made by scammers.

By the way, I don't do such things. As it would decrease your reputation and people may stop following other referral links you put.

The thing you said is very true and those selfish people would do anything even they know that it would do harm into others.They don't mind to promote Ponzi sites as long it can generate money for them and as you said they can gain money for referral bonus earnings.Doing such thing is not really good since you are taking advantage into others.
8490  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Chinese police raid miner factories in its oil capital city, 1k+ miners seized on: December 19, 2016, 09:25:47 AM
Any shady cloud mining sites go down recently? lol
Whats the connection of mining sites related into this news? Maybe you are referring that they are running a cloud mining?I don't think so and they don't really matter to build one and as we can see they are using old miners and as mentioned above its more sufficient in electricity since they are using old miners but they will still be facing violations on stealing electricity.
8491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 2016 was amaizing yeae in crypto!!! on: December 19, 2016, 07:51:45 AM
To be honest 2016 was real amaizing year!
Everything i buy end of 2015 and start in 2016 give me fantastic profit from 300% to even close to 1000%!
Hope in 2017 its will be at least same or even better!
All give me nice profit i make few 100k$ with coins, btc,eth,leocoin,maidsafecoin,xaurum and monero!
Lets see what happen in 2017!?! 👍🏼
Let me know about the valid proof.  Cheesy And I will be forgetting this about FUD.  Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
Let's erasing the Leo coin from your list, dude. It gives a lot of the negative impression for me.
You cant do anything about it that he includes leocoin on his list.Smiley Its too obvious that he wont forget his coin and its obvious on his signature. I don't think its a FUD for those coins that he mentioned since they really rise up on this year and definitely generate you profits if you got in the right time to buy them.
8492  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where would you invest if you had 40$/day ? on: December 19, 2016, 06:40:31 AM
With that money every day I could finally start to save money. With 40 $ each day I can live a life and put half of that on a side.
I think I would invest that money only when I gather couple thousands dollars. 20 $ x 30 days is 600 $ each month on a side, for one year 7200 $. I would open fast food, money is in the food.
A very nice plan you have since I would do the same thing too on which saving up half of the amount for longer times and when I save enough then that's the time to make some investments on that saving so that it could able to generate profits for me in more longer years and do your best that your investment will show up and don't let it to die or bankrupt easily.
8493  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: any one can help on: December 19, 2016, 05:33:34 AM
Also, if you do not want to download anything use an online wallet like blockchain. I think it is more convenient to use an online wallet and it much less hassle free and for beginners. But downloading and understanding the core wallet ultimately makes your bitcoins much safer. That way the bitcoins can even be carried with you on your usb if you would like to.
can any one tell me how to use bitcoin core qt without download the whole 40gbblol
that will end my internet storge:)
block chain take many fees i will try for coinbase Smiley
Fees on blockchain doesn't really hurt soo much since its only a small amount but if you are not in a hurry then choose coinbase since they don't charge on every transaction or money transfer but expect transfer times would be longer compared to those who have transaction fees. Downloading the whole blockchain does really hurt in the ass since you will need to download the whole thing before you could able to use it.
8494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: December 17, 2016, 02:58:59 PM
When I used to gamble (mostly dice) I made quite a few calculations and made many strategies to reduce the chance of losing, if you consider that analysis then yes I used in when I gambled (now I don't gamble)

i think analysis is mostly done in games like sports betting where you have to "study" the games that took place before your bet to find patterns and predict the future.

but yeah in dice what you do is what i also do, by doing calculations in an excel spreadsheet changing things to visualize how i can cut some corners and increase the chance of winning.
I just agree on the sportsbetting and on poker games on which it does really need analysis on making profits with it but in mentioning dice game I don't think so since no matter how analysis you would made and how many calculation you will write the common results would be the same and that's losing your money.Analysis might work only on somce gambling games but not on dice or slots or games that fully rely on luck.
8495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on Bitcoin price on: December 17, 2016, 02:04:34 PM
~snip

True, I don't think bitcoin will ever drop to that level again. Bitcoins are hard to come by because of the halving. Also, let's consider that bitcoins has only a finite amount in this world. Hence, when the supply is low and the demands is high, it will just rise and will not fall. So betting at $500 will surely lose, just to discuss this wager.

Well what if it does drop to that level? Then we're all fu*ked! Was just thinking, That would mean we all lose, first because we have so much bitcoins (probably not all of us) then we all bet on it not dropping. If they do gamble at the $500 point and they win we all lose because the price of bitcoin dropped.
But the chances of that thing will happen is very very slim on which we could really able to say that it wont happen and our bets would be goes higher since we do believe on bitcoins price that it will go up.Doing binary options is very risky because even on 1 pip difference you will still able to lose up.
That requires you to be knowledgeable in bitcoin to succeed but if I were you, sports betting is way better than binary option. It's not easy and I guess trading is more simple and you have a better chance of winning.
I cant really say the difference between the risk of losing money in binary options and sports betting and as i observe binary options have the edge since we could always seek for indicators and charts that serve as a guide on moving price.It does really require extreme knowledge thats why trying out binary options without proper knowledge is the same on throwing off your money.You could check here  http://www.bitcoinbinaryoptions.net/

that is true about almost all the gambling games that can be categorized as skill based, they all seem the same as far as the result goes. and also they are all the same throwing away your money if you don't have any knowledge about them (that is why they are called experience based games afterall!) but when you learn them they all becoming the most profiting games.
Making profits on things that really requires skills and knowledge is really possible compare on jumping or doing it without any idea on it but it would not still give us profits on constant basis there are still loses but the important thing that winning is more than lose which indicates a profit.Risk can be reduced by proper knowledge and discipline and you will need it on binary options.
8496  Economy / Services / Re: Forum moderator on: December 17, 2016, 11:17:48 AM
I need moderators for the forum, who wants to?
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Visit the forum at least once each day
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Communicate with unruly members and advise them of the consequences of disruptive behavior
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Supporting your volunteer moderators once they've assumed their new roles is also critical. Be sure to communicate frequently with them, recognize and reward their contributions and give them some time off occasionally so they don't get burned out.

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Be respectful of all members, each other, and represent your forum with professionalism
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Just want to ask on what kind of forum it is?Im quiet interested on this said position and I could do this job even though I don't have experience on moderation jobs but I could assure you that I could able to perform this task well since its not really hard at all.Im sending you a PM now on facebook.Ill wait for your reply.
8497  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I want to promote my casino on this forum on: December 17, 2016, 09:47:32 AM
Promoting on this forum can be done with a signature as a example, I would for sure do this because its nice to do and also very profitable at the end, you of course have to invest a bit if you want to start a campaign on this.
If you running a signature campaign, mostly your site traffic would be increased, fortunatelly there are some sites which their traffic doesn't increased even though they are already running signature campaign. Running another promotion is not bad too for a new site. Goodluck OP for your new site
Yeah,not all sites or owners that do signature campaigns have increased their traffic or sign-up on their sites.So it means theres no guarantee to focus on campaigns but this is only the most common and accurate way of promoting on you casino site.You could also run social media campaign too.
8498  Economy / Services / Re: Earn $1000s PLUS a month on FOREX $150 a month for forex signals on: December 17, 2016, 05:18:41 AM
A little bit more and I could able to join this group. I would like to test out the legitimacy of the signals that are being posted on the slack.As I saw on the thread and ive backread  results are good but members should post also the losing trades so that people could able to ratio the winning percentage of its signals.
8499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 16, 2016, 03:43:24 PM
I find it funny with Chinese people who are asking their buddha if they are lucky enough. After some rituals and putting up incense to the altar of their buddha's then they are going to ask if they are lucky enough. And I forgot how their buddha answers, but there are some signs that they are going to know and if that is a yes with that sign then they will gamble. But if there is no sign, they are not lucky base on him.  Cheesy
Well,lets respect their culture since they have their own beliefs and no matter how they do to know their luck and seeks for signals then they are the ones who only knew it. We have our own decisions and perspectives in life either on religious beliefs or any thing but in reality no one could really able to tell on when our luck would come to us because it do only comes without our notice and we could only see that if we experience winnings.
8500  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin traders, why don't you just trade forex? on: December 16, 2016, 02:59:52 PM
I would never choose forex because it's too risky and there are so many fake and fraudulent forex platforms. You can read about forex scams every day. Besides I don't know anyone who have ever made any decent profit with trading on forex and losin a great deal of money. Also bitcoin is to volatile to be traded on forex, trading on exchangers is much better option.

Why do you worry too much over the defeat of which you can get in forex ....?? , all things must have a risk and we are obliged to find ways to minimize the risk as small as possible. Because a risk can never be eliminated or replaced with an advantage, if we can't use it properly. Or it could be said that if we want to win in forex then should be able to master the science and knowledge about forex
Avoiding losses on forex is really an impossible thing to happen and you are right all things have risk especially on trading field since prices of currencies are too volatile and we cant trade perfectly and theres no perfect trader that do winning trades 100%. Minimizing the losses is the best way with proper knowledge and experience.People would choose on which trading would suit them its either on bitcoin or on forex but for me I could say that forex is complicated.
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