bitcoin and blockchain are not two different or separable things. they work together and stay alive together. so as long as bitcoin is alive blockchain is also alive. and all those people who want to separate bitcoin and blockchain are only trying to make an altcoin and we have already got enough of those going around that we don't need a bank controlled altcoin.
Blockchain technology could live without bitcoin and could be used by other technology but as you mentioned bitcoin wont work if theres no blockchain so we could really say that they are both important to function and could be used by people.I don't know whats the exact aim or essence of OP question between bitcoin and blockchain. |
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Just hold your coins is the only decent option.
1. P2P always loses money and is full of scammers
2. Not sure how you profit that way, but it might be possible?
3. Funding/ICO/Securities are all gambles and most of the time you loose... The only ones making profits are the ones selling...
This sums up my advice pretty well. Not even mining is a great idea... Those kind of investments are really not a bad idea since they really do have the risk of lossing money. Ex. You put up money on a p2p and others said its a bad idea but others could able to sustain and grow it. It depends on the person on how he manage it and avoid the possibilities to get losses of money. 10 BTC is huge already and you could actually put up money on some investments but if you are in doubt then its better to hold off. Holding such huge numbers of btc will be good but if you think for profits well actually the best platform for that is on tradiny sites since 10 btc can already manipulate the price of certain coins, and don't just really on holding since it cannot do anything good always since price blatantly go down after the thunder of price upwards, and much better really to invest separatedly on some serious matters like as op said good ICO and gambling investment. You have a point,if you like to see profits on short period of time then its really better to put it into investments on which you could able to generate money and you dont need to hold it since you could able to maximize your money to earn money but remember that theres always risk on any investments but if you play smart on it then you could possibly earn money and thats the advantage of investing your money. It's very risk. Both trading and gambling. I was looking on some videos about trading, "tutorials", but there is nothing 100% sure about it. The strategies are fail, sometimes can work, sometimes not... Looks without luck, there is no profit trading. If you put the wrong amount on money on the wrong order, it's over... The only investment I see worth a little yet is the casino bankroll, but I don't know for how long it will worth... Many people doing the same investment isn't good. The thing you said is actually true but its not always the case on trading,it might be difficult and may not work anytime but there are really helpful guidelines and tools that will help you out on your trading career.Lossing is a normal thing on trading but you should end up on profits and winning trades must be more than on losing ones. Trading is really risky if you don't have enough knowledge but if you are already prepared enough you know how to handle that for sure. |
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TBC's price is Increasing just like Onecoin with no downward trend. Even BTC gets dumped many times after price rise. But this coins seems to never go down. As you can see Below MIllionaire list is in BTC which totals to 4.5 Billion dollars at current bitcoin rate. Even this is only showing 10 entries worth 4.5 billion dollars of the total of 2500+ entries. You can see i think it will even exceed BITCOIN's Marketcap.  This is total bullshit and those people who hold off large amounts of TBC will such come to waste when the value goes very high its still useless and they would remain in just numbers but you cant actually spend them off so its a total scam and where you hear about a coin without fluctuations? Its just a pure MLM scam and there are lots of people do fall for this and those greediness really push them to engage on this nonsense coin. |
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If anyone here is interested about buying TBC COIN or the billion coin, for having it while it is still low on price coz it is really owesome to have this coin for investment, you do not need to trust this for a reasons, if this is really a legit or a real cryptocurrency. You must try this before we regret the unknown possibilities and missing all the opportunity likely the other crypto currency. write me if you have interest not to missed the once in a lifetime opportunity for everyone of us. my email: atenistacccastillon09@gmail.com. For those interested only! Im selling @ a current price rate  Please visit our website: www.thebillioncoin.infoWhat is the current value of this coin? I don't think people are buying at current price since many are selling them cheap... I see people selling it @ $0.5 to $5 but still hard to sell at those price... Actually you can even get it for free  My friend gave me 100 TBC coins and i have no idea what to do with it.. I might also sell it @current price... lol... Well obviously this coin is made to scam people.. Some will profit others will loose... Yes i do notice also that some people do sell off their tbc coins on cheaper prices compared on to its current price because I could really say that its too high amount if you do sell it and I will tell you no one would able to buy that 100 tbc you had maybe in its cheapest price is possible. Actually TBC has an exchanger but the price is too small and not in the current price and I assume those people do get supply from there. |
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Is there any safe monthly investment offering a value like that (1.5%)?
I know about casino bankrolls, just searching if there is something more. I tried on Google, but I just see a lot of HYIP schemes.
Just as mentioned above regarding on poloniex and hao they do really give small percentage and banks could be the best choice compared to them. Lending services will give you more than that you asked for and i agree on members here said you should always demand for strong collateral to avoid being scammed by those people who request a long from you. If you dont like the risk of invesment then better to hold off your bitcoin 1.5% per month is achievable though and also try to put up on gambling house it might work and choose the most reputable ones. garbling house only if you trust them some here are good but i would recommend you better to invest this is my opinion, lending someone is risky to risky he can scam you in most cases, investment in some reputable gambling house is little less risky and investing in some ICO is also like that maybe best option is to hold, but if you want investment try to find some good investment here on forum you can find one was it some coin or something else research first here on google you want find this maybe some articles how this is suppose to be and how its done in practice Holding your money would be good if you really dont know on what will you do on that but as you said putting it on investments is the good idea because you could able to generate money on that money. Yes,investing on reputable and good gambling sites is somehow safe compared to build a lending service because lots of scammers nowadays. |
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Is there a updated list with gambling sites with faucets?
I dont know if theres a list or not but i could able to say no since i dont find one but i do know some gambling sites do have faucets and mostly of them are dice sites which they give free satoshis to try out their game and also some casino-based games actually there are lots out of there better to search which gambling sites do suit you and remember faucet amounts are just for trying out their game. |
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I never play dice with boots, because I think it is not interesting. I think playing dice with boots and manually same.
So I think it's better to play dice manually because it will be more attractive in my opinion.
I also rarely play dice so I do not need to use a bot when playing dice.
As I also never play dice gambling with Autobet, but it does not mean that It will not be interesting, I think every gambling game in which you are making money must be interested, I am not playing it because it is really looking to me more difficult to understand as compare to manual dice games. lol are you serious using autobet is that difficult? i don't think the autobet in dice hard to understand as it's pretty simple even for a newcomer like me i do rare play dice as i have no passion in playing that game but when i see the autobet in dice for the first time and try it out , i didn't find any problem in using it, i just think autobet help you to lost faster  Maybe for people who do not know or are not interested in autobet will find it difficult, and it was reasonable in my opinion. I've tried autobet but I do not like it, I'm more comfortable playing manually. Although I rarely play dice, but every time I play dice manually it more interesting. Not only the dice, in any gambling I would have preferred to play manually and it was fun Autobet is not appealing to me since i can't enjoy the game by using it and also it's so dangerous to rely on for that feature since many people losing huge money for using that, thats why mostly at my play times i play manually so i can analyze the numbers of losses and bet huge if the right timing well occur although theirs no scientific explanation on that but still i will go to manual betting and for me it is can be called safe betting Yes we are really the same, I prefer to gamble manually. You're right if we do it manually, we will be able to analyze and we can manage betting. We can control our own bets that betting on our control. I gamble for fun so it's better to play it manually because it was so much fun in my opinion. I guess someone who gamble dice using autobet they want to pursue profits  Indeed and im believing the same thing too on which manual bettings could be the best way to enjoy gambling game because on automated betting its somehow boring and just watching for it compare on manual betting you could really able to manage your bets in your control so when losing streak strikes then you could able to get out to minimize lose compare on auto betting that will surely empty out your balance. |
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Op you will gain full unrestricted posting capabilities when you will reach Junior Member rank. You need to have 30 activity for that, 1 post=1 activity point.
Until that you have to bear with newbie restrictions - believe me for huge forum like this it is better that way.
As for the Bitzino - they just run off with your money, nothing more. Stop demonizing Trump's administration - they are not gonna do anything harmful to bitcoin gambling.
As you can read on the OP its being mentioned that he luckily withdraw the money before the site shutdown totally.Its just a simple problem with a simple cause there nothing to be compared about government administrations because they just totally shutdown because of its financial state for sure could not able to sustain long. |
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btw, the mods need to fix it when it eats ur post when u post within 6 minutes of making another post. this makes newer members lose interest in the forum altogether, or ever becoming an active member. way too much work to retype. i originally hit the back button, but then after waiting 6 minutes and trying to republish it lied to me and claimed it was published already when it wasnt.
bitzino shut down with no warning this morning, but it did let me withdraw the entire balance into coinbase thank GOD. were they worried of the new trump administration?
so now where can i bet one one-millionth of a bitcoin on BJ instead of 1 1000th? i liked their micro bet option, because it enabled me to matingale easily with such low bets 1 cent or below. some non bitcoin sites even make u bet $1
Theres nothing to fix or change regarding on newbie account restrictions since its a good way to prevent spam on these forum. Lucky of you that you could able to withdraw your money and as ive checked on the site I could say its quiet old and I don't think theres the connection of trump administrations. Mostly reasons of shutdowns are lack of players or they are already experience bankruptcy. |
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Guys,
I've updated topic with link to spreadsheet and official thread. Please check the rules one more time to understand everything.
Good luck everyone.
Regards,
Alex.
Thank you op and boxxob. we wil do our best to exert efforts for this campaign..I've understand already the rules stated. |
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Ive been checkin some bitcoin news on deep web.
What do you think about those accounts for sell? If btc is so safe what about those then?
I think it would be like give 1 btc and get an account with 20 BTC Btc in it only if you open FreeBtc.exe lol  Jokes apart.. No one will offer such service because they can transfer the btc from those accounts to their own and no one will know. And i hear some people selling btc in social media too I dont know if there persons really legit. You can buy it much cheaper there ithink you can still buy around $600 than the current price but the problem is where it is came from I didn't know if that btc safe to use I only hear it from some of my friends telling to me. I do not search for that persons coz I donot have interest for buying it. When I see those kind of offers I usually rejects it because I know its already a scam on the first place. Who the hell would sell bitcoin lower to the current price? If he will do that negative profits will he commit and no one really likes that . Some people do fall sometimes on these kind of craps instead of having a profits they will surely be scammed in the end. We will not be sure until we try it. But people will fall with this is the one need it cheap.the risk is high when you buying it. Maybe it's scam or its hacked or someone buying it from deepweeb. Agree we cant really state a proper or exact conclusion since we dont even bother to try it. If you do like to take the risk better to buy one if its real or not.In my own perspective if i saw such accounts out there which offer in a very very low price then you should think twice because thsoe offers are too good and might be end up of being scammed there. If you have some money to buy at current price why you need cheaper when you know theres already a risk buying it. Even I would see this offer I will not buy it for my own good. There are really people do tempt to buy cheaper things compared to the current price because they think they could able to save up money and could possibly bought other things with that amounts that's why they really do buy those cheap things without thinking about the possibly risk that they are taking.If you are a sensible person you could able to identify and somehow aware yourself when there is somethings fishy transaction. |
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No matter how safe you gonna do it. Still it wont be consistent. Also, for me the word safe wont fit in a word gambling because there is no safe way in any form of gambling. Maybe you can lowered the risk but not as mush as safe.
your point was true that steady income from gambling is impossible because how many times you trying to minimalize the risk but in gambling there is no zero risk even with 99% chance to win and 1% to lost but if you were hit 1% lost i think those percentages will ruin your days True. If you set the chances to 100% the casinos will not allow you to bet. Also even if they do, they will give you a 0% profit. So, there is no point gambling at 100% There is nothing safe in gambling there is always a great risk to lose your bet. Be it the first, the second or the last! Good luck gambling! What makes it worse is that the casinos have a house edge, which makes the house more likely to win against you. How do you set 100% chance? Chances are random unless if you are playing dice and also theres no 100% odds since theres an house edge which means 98-99% is the max when you intend to bet safely but doesn't guaranteed you anytime and the guy who mentioned above about 1% chance of losing well yeah its possible but 1 lose will surely hurts you and you need 99 rolls again to break even. |
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altcoins fail becasue nobody knows how to promote them outside the community. Lack of money. Thats why. Nothing to do with features.
Marketing and promotion is the most important thing. I think this is because developers can't wait to immediately benefit. When thrown into the market, then there is a system or a rudimentary gap so as to make these coins are not attractive to investors. Another important factor is the manipulation of market prices in unnatural, so people just take advantage of instantaneous do not want to hold for long term. Agree,if a particular coin wont emphasize or give importance regarding to its marketing and promotion then it will destined to fail on midway,as you said most developers cant really wait and they rush up to make benefits that's why.Investors and big whales could not able to see a particular coin if the awareness or appearance on public is quiet small compared to others. |
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I will always remember a Facebook friend who told me never to deal with any cryptocurrency marketed via the famous multi-level marketing system and he cited some examples of coins that have already gone to the trashcan.
However, I am a person with an open mind and personally, I am not judging MLM as a distribution system because it can also be a good way to spread the word, so to speak.
Would you join a cryptocurrency marketed via MLM?
I don't think theres a certain coin which uses MLM system but speaking of this thing it reminds me about TBC coin which some people call it as a currency but its not actually a crypto since its price is increasing 5% per day and its really a Ponzi coin for me and no people would surely buy it since it has already expensive value and its not tradable with bitcoin.Askin why are you bothering to know about MLM type coins? |
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well has any Point-of-sale system been proposed for bitcoin so far? pretty sure it'll facilitate bitcoin adoption by local shops, at least if it's cheap
I don't even know if there are some but if this is going to be proposed to a local stores for sure they will deny it and won't accept this offer. This requires big capital with it and there are some alternative that small stores upon using POS for bitcoin, by accepting directly payment from their bitcoin wallet address. Because not all local stores are that wealthy enough to purchase this kind of software for adoption. Actually theres no problem regarding on accepting bitcoin on your business even on a small store because they could directly pass bitcoin into your wallet without the need of any software that you mention since bitcoin transactions are irreversible. The main problem here is that the adoption of bitcoin to a certain place thats why some would really refuse to use it since they even heard about it. |
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Well bitcoin is a really efficient one. You can bring them anywhere any time. You can pay bills buy anything sitting in your couch all day. The problem is there are limited stores thqt accept bitcoin. Money will be accepted anywhere, its money. But its not really efficient, it can be stolen by a thief so easily in your pocket. Bitcoin cant be taken from you by theives.
I thin this is not the case that your money can be stolen by thieves since we have some online banks that you can withdraw your money like pioneer or any credit card that we can use worldwide.. You can bring bitcoin in other country but it is just the same as your fiat in other country that you need to exchange it first in order to use it in other country.. Bitcoin is always use as alterntive payment only for online shopping.. if we are lucky that the adoption will increase more soon that bitcoin can be acceptable locally like other country well i will use bitcoin and motivate other to use this because of the benefits like the price increase and transaction fee is low.. You are referring to bitcoin which the adoption is not fully spread yet thats why bitcoin cant possibly be used anywhere unless if a certain country you go is already accepting bitcoin then its a good one since you could able to use it directly at ease. Real money does really have advantage sicne you could easily pays off as long you have the money but regarding on online transaction i could say bitcoin has the edge. |
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Maybe ZCash / ZClassic take the ETH Place after that Fork disaster  Zcash? Ethereum offers something different compared to other altcoins, so it is unlikely that its place will be taken up by another altcoin. Zcash currently has a market cap which is 1% of Ether's market cap. You cant compare ETH to ZCASH since the difference is huge and you cant compare a new and an old altcoin. Price decrease are normal for an altcoin theres nothing to be shocked about this news.Ive seen ETH development since in the beginning they suffer some problems but they could able to survive it and now its still kicking. Lowering price of eth is not a shocking news anymore. |
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Usually, I'd take advantage of the situation and would gladly sell it but since I'm keeping myself from spending my bitcoins to keep as many bitcoins as much as possible.
I will not do anything, Just continue to hold my bitcoins as usual. This is just a safe approach, Most traders might take the risk to earn more.
the fluctuation of bitcoin might make your bitcoin which you were holding not worth as much as before thus you've missed many opportunities to keep your wealth stay on its amount and value. holding bitcoin which is volatile also having some risk. even though it's about the value you deserve to get at the current rate of the time Thats why we need proper calculation upon buying and dont make nasty decision about it, and try to buy at the lowest price if possible so if it will go down you can still have a higher chance to retain back your losses and if that pump well a higher chance of good profits we can get for certain good instance, but actually i believe on holding for now since price show's good flows for now and maybe we can see.outers.all time high at this point. Holding off bitcoin will be ideal for those users who bought on $500 price i guess hence the lose will not be possible as of todays because we all know that bitcoins price wont drop like that low again even what bad news will come out it may dip its price but not low as that. Short trading on bitcoin will give you profits not just on holding it for long term.When bitcoins price shoots up then its time to celebrate. It depends on what kind of investor you are.If you like to hold bitcoin then its your decision because most people do hold off their bitcoins is to those person dont really bother to make up some investments or doing trading because they dont like to risk their money to earn money so they decided to better on holding it but there are people really loves to risk. |
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Username: carlfebz2
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Ill change signature if once accepted.
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
If you turn your thinking way, than you clearly see both, gambling and trading have many similarity. Actually, i see them in a business wise, trading is risky and many time we loss our amount, even we don't know that what is the next moment happen, if we get profit or lose. And same thing is happened in gambling, in the end of the game, we don't know we win it or not, also our all money on a risky. So we can consider that both are same. You're right gambling and tradinh are both similar loosing money is just an example for this both and rsiky we lose in trading we lose in gambling sometimes we get profit in both this is why we considered trading as a gambling Trading is like gambling though because of the risk involve of lossing it. We cannot really avoid to lose up on trading even how professional or experienced we are because we cant predict anytime the price movement but the difference of trading into gambling on some points on which you could able to trade smartly which really lessens the risk of lossing up too much money unlike on playing gambling which somehow rely on luck always. |
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