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Looking at the title and the author I knew before I opened the thread that the "myths and misconceptions" would be coming from the leftwing propagandists and lo and behold that's exactly what it is. Truth, more than 99% of all jobs created since 2000 have gone to immigrants here legally and illegally and with our unemployment numbers as high as they are the country simply cannot afford to continue allowing illegal aliens to come here and take jobs from Americans. And its a fact that illegal aliens lower wages across the board so while dems are bitching about the low wages in America they need to look to their party leaders when they place the blame. The gop has a proposal that would allow green cards for illegal aliens in job categories that show a shortage of qualified Americans, that's a solution America can live with. And I don't care how hard it is for immigrants to come here legally, if bush had applied those laws and stopped the flow of illegal aliens our wages would be up and our unemployment numbers down. But the democrats wanted to appease corps with low wages and themselves with voters so they screwed Americans.
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I can't help but notice that they never complain about all of the white people on welfare, which outnumber blacks by huge numbers.
Why is that?
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oh, hell, I'd love to repeal the two term limit and shove him back in their faces a third fourth and fifth time just to see their heads explode. I've hated the sicker rightwingers--and we know who they are, no names need be mentioned--that drag this forum down with their vitriol and sick spittle, op after op which assumes, imputes and desires the WORST possible motives all the time, claims every outcome the WORST ever, it's just gotten so tiring. But I'd happily shove him right back down their throats and put up with all their bullshit still just knowing how much they hate, on a daily basis, the fact that the President is black.
He let reid make that decision, also I believe he had enough confidence in himself to believe he could find a way to work with republicans, and then reid telling him well what if they gain control. So I'd agree he miscalculated just how vile republicans were, his weakness was having a good nature . |
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it is said of Giovanni d'Medici, when elected Pope Leo X, that he quipped: "God has given us the papacy: let us enjoy it."
I felt like Bill Clinton enjoyed the Presidency. I felt like George HW took it as a duty, and enjoyed it because he enjoyed duty. I felt like George W enjoyed it because it gave him a shred of self esteem (even if he knows it was stolen) he was deprived of lifelong. I felt like Ronald Reagan, at least while still conscious, enjoyed it. I felt like Gerald Ford didn't, and don't blame him, I felt like Nixon enjoyed it thoroughly because it allowed him to use the ideas in his fertile brain.
But I don't feel like Obama enjoys being President. I don't feel like he's got any real passion in his soul, and maybe it takes a bit of passion to be a good president.
The worst thing I ever felt about Obama was when I heard about that sentence in his memoirs, "I chose my friends very carefully..." Even at a young age, due to his background, he was lived a life of self-repression, where he had to behave in certain ways to keep in good with the eyes of others...carefully choosing his friends to make sure that his persona didn't suffer in the eyes of those who mattered.
It takes huge self-discipline to construct a persona like I think he's constructed: one composed almost entirely of being the guy people want to get ahead. And I think it takes a lot out of a human being, he is the closes approximation to a Vulcan.
And much as I like the Vulcans, I also have a great fondness for the Minbari: a good question would be which would make a better President: a Vulcan or a Minbari of the warrior caste!
My take is the way he has almost personally went after al-queada tells me he has balls, even though he has the SS and all, to knock off the top leaders like that, as vicious as they are, knowing he still must travel is ballsy. I honestly think bush the daddy's boy was afraid of them, that's why he went after a country, less personal, and it's what his neo-con uncles told him to do but seriously, just out of spite I will always say nice things about Obama as long as the nutjobs never say anything nice about him, it's the Libra in me I think I were honest I would say that Obama is less a disappointment to me as is than he would be if I felt he were truly dedicated to my values. Because I said on this forum that he needed to go to Reid with all his popular support and tell Reid to change the cloture vote to 56. That would have prevented the type of obstructionism that Republicans started immediately. It was a chance lost. I'd almost feel better if he purposefully passed it up in obedience to 1%er orders, rather than that he truly desired the same things you and I do and missed the chance through bad judgment. Because he had a real chance to accomplish that fundamental transformation he spoke of. Bitterness or cynicism are my choices: I think I am opting for the latter. I think he started out enjoying it because he was naive enough to think republicans loved their country enough to at least help to keep it functioning. If I had to work with them I'd consider suicide..... |
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it is said of Giovanni d'Medici, when elected Pope Leo X, that he quipped: "God has given us the papacy: let us enjoy it."
I felt like Bill Clinton enjoyed the Presidency. I felt like George HW took it as a duty, and enjoyed it because he enjoyed duty. I felt like George W enjoyed it because it gave him a shred of self esteem (even if he knows it was stolen) he was deprived of lifelong. I felt like Ronald Reagan, at least while still conscious, enjoyed it. I felt like Gerald Ford didn't, and don't blame him, I felt like Nixon enjoyed it thoroughly because it allowed him to use the ideas in his fertile brain.
But I don't feel like Obama enjoys being President. I don't feel like he's got any real passion in his soul, and maybe it takes a bit of passion to be a good president.
The worst thing I ever felt about Obama was when I heard about that sentence in his memoirs, "I chose my friends very carefully..." Even at a young age, due to his background, he was lived a life of self-repression, where he had to behave in certain ways to keep in good with the eyes of others...carefully choosing his friends to make sure that his persona didn't suffer in the eyes of those who mattered.
It takes huge self-discipline to construct a persona like I think he's constructed: one composed almost entirely of being the guy people want to get ahead. And I think it takes a lot out of a human being, he is the closes approximation to a Vulcan.
And much as I like the Vulcans, I also have a great fondness for the Minbari: a good question would be which would make a better President: a Vulcan or a Minbari of the warrior caste!
My take is the way he has almost personally went after al-queada tells me he has balls, even though he has the SS and all, to knock off the top leaders like that, as vicious as they are, knowing he still must travel is ballsy. I honestly think bush the daddy's boy was afraid of them, that's why he went after a country, less personal, and it's what his neo-con uncles told him to do but seriously, just out of spite I will always say nice things about Obama as long as the nutjobs never say anything nice about him, it's the Libra in me |
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well novi and zolace agree, novi finds an issue he disagrees with Obama on, and zolace disagrees with Obama no matter what he says or does, See novi no need to explain to him or any phoneycons how you view the president, it's a waste of typing time .
Speaking of a waste of typing. Don't you have an Obama poster on the ceiling over your bed to stare at dreamily, sana? Don't let me keep you. no, but I'm thinking of getting one because I think he's the greatest president ever ........  |
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well novi and zolace agree, novi finds an issue he disagrees with Obama on, and zolace disagrees with Obama no matter what he says or does, See novi no need to explain to him or any phoneycons how you view the president, it's a waste of typing time .
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Two years ago you may recall the Obama administration enacted the deferred deportation program. It was intended for the undocumented young people that where already here,#1 brought here when hey where children. #2 under the age 30. #3 enrolled in school. This is the program they are responding to because it only lasts 2 years.
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This is the sort of thing you'd expect to read in a fictional book such as 1984 but America has really become a real life police state,
The govt spies on it's people, strips away the constitution, up arms their police to deal with rebellions, shoots their own citizens...
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I have never said I do not want illegals deported . I have said it is a complicated issue with variables. Made more complicated with our byzantine immigration laws (domestic and international) and policies that Rs don't want to fix or even address, but do want to continue to bitch about (Obama's fault!). Now I realize that variables is something you don't do, or can't (you're a champ with the snide non sequiturs though) ....that is not my problem.
Well, being as how it is so complicated and all...and being as how you think the folks who don't want them in California are assholes...and being as how you want to blame it all on the Rs....why don't you explain to me why one of the variables that you do can't be you taking in some of the kids? Better idea; why don't you take a hike. I have a feeling the pres is going to start moving money around for the border problem, with or without the consent of the do nothing Congress. The pen and the phone. And then the howling is going to get deafening. He's out there saying ok, you asked for it; sue me! You wish. But I made my point...this is just another mess made by the Dear Leader for which you don't think he or you bears any responsibility. But just a reminder for you....most do: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-polls/063014-706916-americans-blame-obama-on-immigration-irs-iraq-ibdtipp-poll.htm#ixzz36HVIJAKmMoving it around to do what? Specifically. What part of the news do you ignore. Most apparently. It was the tea party that stopped immigration reform and we would have fences and more border patrol. So you all can blame the republicans. |
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Right now we've got a bunch of Cliven Bundy wannabes forcing buses loaded with immigrants..women and children and teens - on their way to detention in California from Texas forcing them off the road to turn around. It would not surprise me if we see gunplay on the freeway. Because freedom and liberty.
Their behavior is outrageous - and totally Un-American. They just shit on the very fabric of what America is made of. |
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I asked a question. I answered it. It's unfortunate you are such a weenie about bad news.
You started it! Glad you're still posting though. I still don't think we're talking about the same thing. Buttboy called this one more in a line of something similar--those examples you gave are not similar to the one in the OP, because that ruling names the Administration. You can call everything in this thread anti Obama and that's fine, but saying everything in the thread is a smackdown of commensurate proportions is demonstrably incorrect. |
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Maybe their increased happiness has a little to do with their parents being more accepting and open-minded about their kid's life choices. When parents spend their days controlling and everything little Timmy can see, hear, and think there is a higher chance that there were will disagreement, argument, resentment, fear, and a loss of communication.
So the definition of "good parenting" is to let little timmy having his way? No,there is not definition and no "perfect or good parenting",it has to be a balance betwen controling the kids and giveing them too much freedom .As a parent you have to know when to say No to your kid even if he is not happy with it, but also to much No is not good and the same goes with Yes, and comunication is the key ,if you have the pacience and time to explain to your kid why is No and why is Yes,he will understand better your intention. |
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Supreme Court? I would think they would throw out this suit, because it's political bullshit so boenher can keep his job. But 5 conservative judges might go for it. Question is, can democrats sue a republican president. the stats the media keeps showing is that Obama has issued far fewer executive orders than his predecessors.
I think you've got your priorities mixed up....When a law is legally passed and the president uses an executive order to nullify it, THAT is political bullshit. Educate me. Which law(s) are you talking about? I'll pick one (there are many examples) In 2010 the dream act failed, so Obama used executive orders to stop deportations and of illegal immigrants. So even though the law (he supported) failed, he just wrote it in and told law enforcement and the justice dept how to act. Someone or other passed a law about recess appointments: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...d19_story.html...and the other side played the technicalities card by holding fake sessions to block recess appointments. But technicalities count, so thank god we can say republicans have achieved something in congress. Another Obama SCOTUS smack down. He's the President, not the King. When was the last?Here: United States v. Jones Sackett v. EPA Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church & School v. EEOC Gabelli v. SEC Arkansas Fish & Games v. United States PPK Corp. v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue Horne v. USDA Sekhar v. United States Burrage v. United States Bond v. United States United States v. Wurie/Riley v. California NLRB v. Noel Canning Ok let's look at these. 1. The FBI can't track a car by installing GPS on it--clearly a desire of the current admin 2. One act allows for another to be charged, recommends the 1970s Clean Water act be clarified--everyone knows this is a key piece of Obama legislation 3. Government can't pick religious employees, ruling leaves open suing--clear blow to the presidents agenda of appointing religious figures 4. Statue of limitations is tied to the date you did the crime, not when it was discovered--drats, Obama is foiled again 5. Let's sue the federal government for its flood control efforts--sure showed that uppity negro a thing or two Your first five examples are shit. They don't even pertain to the current administration. In fact, they show the normal court deliberations that would happen under any administration. Asserting these belong on a list with recess appointments or filing suit is silly and desperate--trumped up. Try using your own words when making your menopausal response. |
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Side A might be silly buggers but all sides are buggers period.Ergo going for a recess appointment is only slightly less buggerish than extending do nothing sessions into pro forma sessions to block recess appointments.
It wasn't responsive to what was being discussed. I'm sure it was responsive to whatever the voices in your head were discussing. It was plenty responsive. In fact it gave your less than helpful post some context. Feel free to comment. |
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Side A might be silly buggers but all sides are buggers period.Ergo going for a recess appointment is only slightly less buggerish than extending do nothing sessions into pro forma sessions to block recess appointments.
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Maybe their increased happiness has a little to do with their parents being more accepting and open-minded about their kid's life choices. When parents spend their days controlling and everything little Timmy can see, hear, and think there is a higher chance that there were will disagreement, argument, resentment, fear, and a loss of communication.
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Hold on, did you just post something she's hoping will be read as an argument against "inter-breeding"? With...neaderthals? You cannot make this kind of entertainment up. Not even for a $300 Las Vegas ticket.
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stop racism and make love :-)
yeah , this is the solution....... |
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I cannot count the times when I was in America that I was stopped by cops for driving while black. One time they were particularly solicitous for the welfare of my wife (who is blonde) while we were having a discussion about Derrida.
When progs change their minds it is called evolving. When cons do it it is called flip-flopping. Go figure .I'll bet you are just a shitty driver. No figuring required zolace. Cons don't evolve (unless its backwards, called de-volving) and they don't flip flop. They just rewrite history, otherwise known as lying. |
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