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8681  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: November 09, 2016, 10:34:47 AM
This can happen but not because of bitcoin having a high value but because america has fallen and dollar is very cheap. I do not believe bitcoin will reach $50K in our lifetime. Maybe in the far future, it can happen but we will all be long dead before that happen. I am already happy if ever bitcoin reaches 2K.
yeah I do not think bitcoin can cost as high as it was when the price of the dollar is strong and there is no event or any event in the world, I'm sure the price of bitcoin will not be more than $ 1,000
I do agree with you,  there are  really some  speculation of  bitcoins price which seems  too unrealistic to   consider as  you  mentioned   its not  possible for bitcoin to reach  up as OP speculated  for about  $50k  per coin. Even  if we say that  making  the full adoption of bitcoin  it  wont still reach  up this amount.  If  it really does  reach  this  amount it  would take   centuries for sure , if   bitcoin is  still alive.
8682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin's price rise above $1000 because Trump was elected president? on: November 09, 2016, 08:17:24 AM
As most have speculated that Trump will support bitcoin and may loose the regulation and restrictions regarding bitcoin in America. Obama used to think bitcoin as criminal currency which was completely wrong description and now Trump may start supporting bitcoin which will sure boost the price of bitcoin, we may see $800 by time we see official result and confirmation about Trump being next president. Price have already reacted and reached around $750.  Shocked
I agree on this  one , if  trump would  win  on  the current  presidential elections   and he  intend to  support bitcoin then  for sure we could really expect the bitcoins  price would  boost  up  even  more because adoption would  surely arises and  that's  a good thing   for  bitcoin  but as of now  we still don't  know the results  on which  one  would really win,  I agree with you  bitcoins price Is  now  on  uptrend.
8683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sorry to all who buy Zcash at 1btc + on: November 09, 2016, 06:33:42 AM
zcash can recover to 1+btc or drop to 0.01 in no time. With this such low monetary base everything is possible.

just look the polo buy and sell wall, it's clear that someone is pushing down the price for a reason.

I doubt it would recover to 1btc+. I dont know anyone who has said anything positive about this coin. It seems all its been used for is people attempting to short it and failing. Im sure by now there are quite a few bag holders though because the only people making any profit from this will be the founders.
As the supply cranks up the price will get lower and lower.

However, there will definitely be huge pumps in the future, but it is far too early to get in.


When the pump will happen, and is the price of zec after get pumped will more than the first price after get put in the polo? if the big pumped soon will happen and i could not believe will reach over 10 btc again for each btc. and i think this coin are the the worst forever never ever i seen before.
10btc  pump for  zcash  would not happen  anytime soon.  The  thing  makes  these  things  hype  up regarding  to zcash  is the  people   behind it  which  is  the founders  itself.
Doing shorts  with  zcash as  of now  is  not an  ideal thing to  do because  as  you can see  it almost  dump its  price to the  lowest  compared to the  initial price which  rose  up  to 3.3k btc .
8684  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Would you open a Bitcoin account at your local bank? on: November 08, 2016, 03:35:23 PM
there should be a banner which says (SAY NO TO  CRYPTOCURRENCY BANK) because
-they cant be trust worthy at all ...
-if they take away small amount from each accout and if u dont notice then it will be troublesome..
-bitcoins can be hacked  through bank ..

kudoos Smiley

This  things are possible to happen when our bitcoins  is on the banks because  its easily  for it to be  manipulated and there are  lots of things  you could able to  make reasons  especially when they  tend  to steal small amounts on  each accounts same as you mentioned you wont feel it because of bitcoins  price  volatility. Even they are on the  bank the risk  is still there. So  I  really said  no with this.
8685  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: November 08, 2016, 03:28:26 PM
Bank will never disappear as long as paper $$ still there

You are right  and as we all know  fiat currency  is strong  and been regulated by the government  which  means  it would  really stay still    and  no matter those alternative currencies  would  arise  , fiat  would  be still there  and  no  one could able   to replace  it  from its place.  Banks are storage  for fiat therefore  it would surely stay too.
8686  Economy / Services / Re: $0.20BTC In 30 seconds on: November 08, 2016, 03:17:54 PM
It seems  I  do  already read this  kind  of thread  from another person which  you could able  to earn  0.20$ on 30 seconds   and I assume you would really need  to sign  up on a particular site as  long he confirms  it  you would receive the   bitcoin  but   you would need   to get verified also need an email. Done know  if its legit  but for a newbie account  it would really  be hard  to trust.
8687  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Tearing my hair out , getting screwed by every BTC site. on: November 08, 2016, 03:02:01 PM
YOure a  hell rich of a guy on which  you could able to  purchase   huge amounts  of bitcoin  one at a time that's  why  you are getting banned   from them. If you want to  make  transaction  you could always   use  p2p  but the risk  of  being  holdup is there  so its better to  buy small amounts  first and get the   trust  of  your seller  if the trust   builds already then that's the  time  buy  on  bulks.
8688  Economy / Speculation / Re: China putting capital controls on BTC! (lol) on: November 08, 2016, 02:31:53 PM
if you know the price is going to 10k or 40k moon OR 100LK MARS ETC
then whether you bought at 300 or 700 mAKES VERY LITTLE DIFFERNCE
in a year or less people will look back and say damn ,i could have bought at 700 but now its $2400 ...fuck my luck lol

We can't just assume the price will reach a certain high price level, and people keep holding their coins till it reaches a price in the higher thousands. Especially when you consider that the far majority of the people here are only looking for short term profits. And even if they do say they are planning to invest for the long term, they end up cashing out at 20-30% profits.

Only an extreme minority will be able to genuinely say that he/she bought around current levels, at the time the price sits at $10,000 for example. Just take the current early adopters as example. Those who bought or minted themselves plenty of coins at the time the value was next to zero, are now in that exact position. However, as I said, it's an extreme minority.
we  can assume hence the price of  bitcoin  is  really  unpredictable lets  just say its too  high  up  now  on $700  but  later  on  it would  definitely rise  up  because  we cant really  stop the adoption of bitcoin and  it would  really continue to grow even more. I agree  with you , people  would really sell off their  coins  when they saw they are already benefited from it like 20-30% on their  investment  that's  why  bitcoins price  is  moving  up and down  because of  active  traders  on  it and  also the  adoption is included.
8689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: November 08, 2016, 02:04:42 PM
I have to say i have done alot of mistakes in my gambling so far.The worst mistake i would say will be once i won upto 5 btc in sports betting in cloudbet and i started with approx 0.4 btc only.That was a huge win for me but my mind gone mad and still after than i keep betting with those 5 btc and then i lost all one by one.I was not able to recover from that loss for many days.That was my worst mistake ever i would say.

How did you win 5BTC , was it straight outta 1 bet , parlay or what?
I assume that  he  do parlay because he  mentioned  he  lost  it  one  by  one  which  mean  he didn't made  one  bet directly. Its  very  common for  this   thing to be happened  that all your winning  would be  lost  because   that's  the  main thing would happen  on gambling  if we play for  long runs  because we do tend  to play  even  more even  if we won already  and   we  know  that  luck  isn't there always  on our side.
8690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win? on: November 08, 2016, 12:45:48 PM
you can't really give any statistics on that because gambling is not limited to only one or two types of games and there is a wide variety of them available that we can only see a very small part of it online with bitcoin gambling sites.

on the other hand, it depends on the game. for example in a dice game gamblers surely have a bigger loss counts than wins because of the house edge. but in other games like sports betting if you know your games you can have a much better statistics hence a much higher win rate percentage.
I agree with you  regarding on  your  statement, theres  no exact statistics  regarding into these  things because  there are  lots  of variety and   types  of gambling   which  we cant really  tally  up  all those   ratio regarding  on  lossers and  winners  but  one  thing  is for sure, there are  lots of  lossers  compare  to winners  and that's the reality  of gambling. Those  who  win are  lucky ones  on that  particular  day.
8691  Economy / Economics / Re: possible government regulations? on: November 08, 2016, 12:06:49 PM
In my opinion i do not like bitcoin to be under by government because i cannot enjoy the small transaction fees and also the posibility to make the price stable to limit the users profits/income.
Don't worry  pal,  it wont  happen anytime soon  that  government would able to  control  bitcoin hence  as we all  know  bitcoin cant be  controlled  by anybody  because  its a  decentralized  digital currency  no matter what they  do they cant  impose  taxes  on it  which  means   these assumptions are  imposibble to happen though, if  its  implemented I think would really takes  time   because  there are  lots of things to  consider first  before this   regulations would  be effective.
8692  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: November 08, 2016, 10:56:10 AM
I don't have  any  investments  or   things  which  give me passive  income  but  im  really trying  hard to  make  one  but as we all know  its  not an easy thing to  do  because you  would really need  hard work and  money  in able  to attain it. Passive in come means   you earn  profits  without doing anything  which is a really a good thing.
8693  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: November 08, 2016, 09:06:57 AM
BTC to be banned?)) Thats not real - coz its decentralized!
It could   possibly  be  banned   by  government  on their country  by using  of bitcoin  but   it cant  really stop people  on  using  it  because there are  lots  of ways   that you could able to use  it  without  the notice of the  government that's  why  its still useless to ban  bitcoin though ,  I don't  see   anything    for bitcoin to be banned in any way.
Mayber theres some   conflicts regarding  on its anonymity  but   it depends  on  people  on  how   he use it.
8694  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does trump or hillary winning affect the Bitcoin industry? on: November 08, 2016, 07:59:24 AM
With American Elections coming to a end, whoever wins, will Bitcoin world be affected or not? I mean can the price suddenly shoot up or down. Or they put any kind of restraints or start accepting it for local use? Could Bitcoin benefit or will it be at a disadvantage
I could assume  that it would  affect  bitcoins price if   dollar    would  change its way  but I don't  think people  would   switch to  bitcoin when that  thing  happends. Actually we cant really predict the  future  on  what would  really happen though,  as  the  election  is  on  process    we could really see the  next event  when its done and  into  upcoming  months to come.
8695  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: November 07, 2016, 04:03:57 PM
No more  questions here. Bitcoin is   better  than   paypal  on  any ways. Fees are less and  transfers  are fast   even though they are  irreversible  unlike paypal  have cashback but still its far away  more  better than  paypal. I could assure that  many  paypal users  do   transfer  to bitcoin because they could saw that  bitcoins  potential and benefits are   good  compared to  paypal and   I  hope  it would be  adopted  more on the future.
8696  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does bitcoin help your life in daily needs? on: November 07, 2016, 03:53:49 PM
NOt for  my daily needs  hence  im  just earning  small amounts  of bitcoin  on  weekly basis   that's why  its not  enough for it to sustain  my needs for everyday  living   but somehow  my earnings are good for  patching  up  utility  bills and other  small  expenses  like  loading  mobile phones and   buying game credits.
8697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if...Satoshi Nakamoto suddenly burns 1 million bitcoins? on: November 05, 2016, 01:34:00 PM
There's not that much that will happen. He didn't sell the coins so the price will definitely not decrease. There would be discussions in here about that and it will become a part of the bitcoin history. People would be asking why to themselves and maybe think about how much money Satoshi let go. It might even be featured in some Youtube channels and facebook pages which might lead to new comers but that wouldn't be that much of a difference.

This is  correct as  long   satoshi  didn't  sell those coins  it wont really affect the bitcoins price  infact the  supply  would  be decreased  by 1m which is 21m  in total. It would be considered  as  lost  bitcoin though but same as you said it would be trending and  might convince some  new people  to  engage into bitcoin.  This type  of question  has  no sense at all for me. Really.  Burning  huge amounts of  money  is  just  like suicide and  no person  who have normal thinking  would do that.
8698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Pacquiao Vs Vargas on: November 04, 2016, 03:52:56 PM

This also catches me by surprise. I thought he was retired after the Bradley fight, but it seems Bob ARum said Manny needs a lot of money in order to create help plans for the people of the Philippines. Manny Pacqiao alone can make more money than most people combined on that country.

You maybe correct since Manny will have a huge payoffs in boxing.Also, Manny Pacquiao become well known on boxing. It is in boxing that he carve his name,that is why he can not easily leave boxing as it is also his passion.

Maybe  you are somehow  correct regarding on  helping the  people   on  Philippines with his   winnings but  I wont  believe it would  be on full he would surely put  up only a small percentage  on it. Im quite shocked  too regarding  on this  fight because   Pacquiao  is already a senator and now at the same time he still fight   on  boxing  which is  amazing to handle this things back up again.
8699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 04, 2016, 03:06:25 PM
How does one Put down Gambling for good?

You need to find other hobbies.
You also need to quite doing things you do and are related to gambling. Maybe change friends or at least avoid them for some time, ...

Lets say when i stopped smoking.  I always smoke when drink coffee. Coffee actually was tasteless to me without a cigarette. So when I decided to stop smoking I started to drink tea instead of coffee. This went on for few weeks or months. Latter i normally was able to drink coffee and enjoy it without a cigarette.


For good is a very serious one. One way to quit where I find very effective is you need to spend all your money in gambling and if you have bigger loses you will realize that gambling is not good for you and you will never gamble alone.

Sometimes bad experience will help us learn.

Wow! That is really a bad move, spend all of your money in gambling! That is not really wise, honestly. You are not testing yourself and make it a parameter as to whether or not you are going to stop gambling afterwards, but you are actually messing your life and your finances! Imagine all the bills and basic needs for your family are being burn in gambling in order to realize that you must stop gambling - doesn't really make sense for Sad

A very bad  move indeed and   you should  not  intend to  do this  thing because   you would surely regret when you experience  total wreckage  on  financial  status. Theres  no need to test and wait  the  worst things that would  happen. Better to  quit from the start   because   you wont risk  nothing  and  that's the  best way. Well  its  your choice to make yourself  realize   but  I would tell you its  not  an ideal solution you would surely make things goes more worse.
8700  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Question!! What is the best signature campaign available? on: November 04, 2016, 07:16:24 AM
This  thread  is very old and should not be  bumped again because  there are  lots  of similar post  regarding with this question. Actually  there are  lots  of signature campaigns   as  of  now  and the best  one  are the  most  high paying  sigcamps  but  just as expected its really hard to  join those   because the managers as  of now are too strict. They would  really implement strict rules  about  spamming and other related  possible violations.
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