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8741  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make an ESCROW? on: October 22, 2016, 03:13:00 AM
What are the things to consider? to be and make an ESCROW?
For Becoming an Escrow Firstly You Need to Gain Some Trust In this Forum And Also You Need to Grow Your Rank in this Forum.....
Only Then You can Make An Escrow and Always Be a Good Human Being Never Cheat Anyone.....

I think starting from Sr rank before you can handle escrow? But more than that, you must be reputable and trusted enough. As what other forumers here say, it takes years to build a trust. Even they are reputable,I think there still cases that they are tempted with money.

Senior member  would  be the best time  to build up your trust  when you are tending  to be an escrow and  same as  others said  building  trust wouldnt  be that easy because  it would really takes time  to build trust  and  be  reputable enough on  the forum. As you said  money temptation  are  there always  but it really depends on the  escrows on how they avoid those  temptations.
8742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which Altcoins Are Not Traceable By Governments on: October 22, 2016, 03:10:13 AM
Why would a government trace an Average Joe's crypto activity. i mean there are a lot of more important stuff to do for them

there are tons of average joes who skimp on their taxes, don't pay child support, buy drugs, buy guns and on and on. governments chase millions of average joes every single day. prisons are filled with average joes.

Correct and a  very  precise answer though average joe could   do anything about their money  on  using bitcoin. Thats why  its really important for  government to trace them  up to lessen the  rate but as we all know  bitcoin is  anonymous and   other alts  which are being used on  illegal things thats  why  its really hard to trace them up.
8743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Looking for an High Paying Signature Campaign? Join CEAL Campaign on: October 22, 2016, 03:05:24 AM
Just want to  ask  if its already ICO period now?  And also  on  what would be the possible  price of  it  when it launch? So that we would have the idea  on investing  on this  project if  it has  a good  potential. How can we  know  if  its  the most  high paying  signature campaign if we dont  know  whats its value regarding  on  payrates. thanks
8744  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: October 22, 2016, 02:59:28 AM
very honestly i have no idea about Paypal actually i have never use it and have no account in it, i have heard from my friends that paypal service is regional and not universal, ans it is also banned in some countries therefore to me bitcoin is too good from paypal as because bitcoin is a universal currency and you can find its service in all over the world, and i think the number of bitcoin users will also be more than the users of paypal
I tell you that its more good to use bitcoin. paypal is hard to use than bitcoin for me bitcoin is easy to use and dont need to verify with your creditcard.. unlike paypal. so bitcoin is more good for me to use..
i agree with you that bitcoin is much more good than paypal and i never use paypal because paypal is not available in everywhere so i use bitcoin because bitcoin is available in everywhere and bitcoin transaction is very fast and secure than paypal.

If you make a statement about Bitcoin being better than PayPal, then at least make sure you have used PayPal before in order to make a right and fair comparison. I can also say that Bitcoin is by far better than Perfect Money while I never used PM before, but that wouldn't make sense.

Right, if you're not used something then better don't compare it with other things. I have used both and using Paypal from many years, and I like both of them because both got different advantages. Paypal is safer to buy online with some unknown person without using any escrow because PayPal got buyer protection feature. Nut in case of bitcoin if you want buy from some unknown person then you should really on escrow and it may delay your transactions.
That's true, the experience really differs a lot and the person who can share their thoughts are those who already experience using bitcoin and paypal. The way I see it, paypal is beneficial to those who work online as freelancers and those who want to transact does not want to be anonymous.


Thats the  beauty of  using  paypal  when you  like  to meet and know between users  but the fees are   huge even on transfers only. Bitcoin users  would  really said  some  experience and thoughts  regarding between the two things because you could really differentiate them  regarding on their accesibility and   benefits.
8745  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: eastshore.xyz on: October 20, 2016, 03:29:48 AM
Never heard about them before and seem in business for many years haven't checked but they have give full physical address to them you can verify them by contacting via their whatsapp number i have seen it on their footer area.

I think https://enshop.bitmain.com/product.htm can be trusted with buying mining devices as many do and bitmain is trusted name to many, however i haven't bought any mining devices yet because of high elctricity cost here.

thank you for reply but i buy baikal miner.
And why are not wanna for buying the baikal miner in their main store or site? seems will more be recommended.
http://www.baikalminer.com/ShowProducts.asp?id=466

Its better  to buy on those  recommended sites and  you give the right  one there  pal.  compare on the  op which is  somehow a shady and  unreputable website  also  i notice  on the domain  which  is xyz seems  its a free  for sure  and  owner dont tend to  buy a .com domain.
8746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: October 20, 2016, 03:17:53 AM
If you can't decide for yourself when to stop in gambling, try bringing a friend with you. Your friend will know when you should stop and stop you. Outsiders have got the clearer vision.

All those things are not a realistic, and one can't implement those ideas very effectively. If you can't stop then is the easiest thing is you should start playing with the limited money which you can afford to lose and don't load more money if you lose it immediately. Just stop for the day and come back after few days to try your luck again if you want.

I think it is easy to determine when to stop. you just have a target so that it's easy and you know when to stop. or when you get a big advantage, then if you keep playing and feel your luck has gone, better stop soon.
controlling our self in the middle of the game is really hard, better to practice this first in a smaller amount and if you see that you know
how to control your emotions and greediness is not eating you up anymore then play bigger one and use that practice for you to able to stop.

playing in  smaller  amounts and  bigger  amounts  would  not  be the same for sure  especially when you are  on  actual game  because betting  on  higher  amounts  would  be   different because  the pressure  is there  unlike  on small amount  because you are  already aware that it doesnt matter if you lose  because   its  only a small amount.
8747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell my stocks buy bitcoin... on: October 20, 2016, 03:16:20 AM
Why buying bitcoins right now i dont want to buy bitcoins right now did you see the price of the coin that is to high for real and i am not going to buy
bitcoins for more than 600 dollar lol.

I remember saying the same thing as you, when bitcoin passed $10
I stopped buying because I thought they're getting "too expensive"  lol
Keep that in mind because sometimes 800-1000-1500-2000 might come a lot faster than you think....


We probably  think this  kind of thing  regarding on the current price, we  thought   that its already high amount  but still we  wont know  what would be the price in near future  thats  why  its very unpredictable with this  kind  of situation on bitcoins price thats  why  anytime would be  a best  buy  in terms of  future goals.

8748  Economy / Economics / Re: How would you double $100,000 safely? on: October 20, 2016, 02:56:33 AM
there is no 100% safe way for that, and way i know might take more than one year, so all you have to do is buy bitcoins and wait for their price to rise, then sell them
yeah true what you say that there is no method to grow and double its investment especially safe, everything is at risk. but I think that would not be possible for you to benefit two-fold if you hold bitcoin in just 1 year

Holding your bitcoin on 1 year period  would not still  guarantee you  to double your bitcoins/money. As we  observe on bitcoins price as of  now  its quite stable and   it really moves slowly  and we  cant guarantee that it would reach double amount  on next  1 year period but well we dont  know  what happens on the future.
8749  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: October 20, 2016, 02:54:02 AM
It has to be at least 30 or 40 billion by now. ROFL

I dont  think so that  it already reach this   numbers  on which  people are using bitcoin. For now  im speculating ><2m people  hence  adoption  for now  is still increasing and  for sure  these  numbers would  add  up  in upcoming months and years  but  30-40m would be  impossible   as of today for sure. IMO
8750  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: October 20, 2016, 02:48:16 AM
Yes you can make a lot of money with the bitcoin and the fact is also that long terms are very good for yourself too.
Its very nice to do and its profitable too and you have to do nothing.

If you  do  possess  huge amounts of  bitcoin  then  holding would   be good idea too because you would surely  made  profits on  future  but if you are  just  holding small amounts then its better to invest  those  up  in able to grow rather  just  holding it. Seeing profits on  short terms  are the best  too.
yes in fact investing in bitcoin with a little amount of money is not a wise decision as it cannot give you a good profit even after a long time, therefore to me the if you really interested in long term investment then you should try to invest a good amount of bitcoin.

Investing  lots of bitcoin for  long term  purposes  would really  pay the price  of  the waiting  time  that youve made compare on  just  holding a little amount , its not worth for the wait .  As  i mentioned earlier better  to hold  huge amount so that you could able  to feel the profit.
8751  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin price chart on: October 20, 2016, 02:46:08 AM
Where can I find a price history chart of Bitcoin?


As been mentioned  from previous  post  by members  coindesk would show charts  and there are  lots  this actually. Just  use google though, it would not  hurt  you. Prices  of bitcoins  may differ in any exchanges but the  chart  graph or  movements  would be the same.
8752  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: October 19, 2016, 04:16:23 AM
Yes you can make a lot of money with the bitcoin and the fact is also that long terms are very good for yourself too.
Its very nice to do and its profitable too and you have to do nothing.

If you  do  possess  huge amounts of  bitcoin  then  holding would   be good idea too because you would surely  made  profits on  future  but if you are  just  holding small amounts then its better to invest  those  up  in able to grow rather  just  holding it. Seeing profits on  short terms  are the best  too.
8753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is mining alt coins profitable? on: October 19, 2016, 04:07:15 AM
I'm looking to invest in hardware, what kind of hardware should I buy and from where?

I don't know if still is profitable buy hardware with GHS/KHS for mining alt coins

how good is mining alt coins nowadays? still profitable?

thanks!

If you would  like   to  mine  bitcoin then you would surely need  asic miners  but   you are mentioning  about altcoin then  you would  sure use  GPU which these are   commonly used  on  mining  altcoins  and  you would  surely need   money  to invest on  this and  you have cheap electricity  to be profitable. Mining ETH  would be a go for me.
8754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [RaiBlocks] RaiBlocks trading thread on: October 19, 2016, 03:58:02 AM
Another bagholding opportunity for another shitcoin. At this rate, I'll be pretty excited to see raiblocks make a comeback, if ever... Unless anyone wants to buy these things off of me to add to their bag lol. Seriously, if interested, make me an offer in my inbox. I've got about 15k Mrai remaining.

I think that in this situation to buy from you can only some "kamikaze" Wink

But anyway I'm curious at what price could you sell this 15k mrai?
IMHO the price at this moment is 1 sat for 1MRai

At this rate, all you're buying is a dream. This coin started off so well; all the right development, all the right technology... but now, it's going to be hard to come back from the dead after losing so much faith of the very people that were so interested in the development of this coin.

1sat each is a bit low for the work that was involved to get the amount I'm holding, but it's still not worth the time it would take to transfer them at the price. The dream of RaiBlocks making a comeback is more than the effort to sell at that price lol.

With that said, I doubt anyone will make an offer that is remotely what I'm thinking of, so yeah, I'll just accept this as a deadcoin and archive my wallet at the time :/

heh true "it's still not worth the time it would take to transfer them at the price." ..that can be offered atm Wink

I also have saved few wallets.. maybe after time some of this coin will wake up.. Smiley who knows..? Smiley


I think  theres no chance for  raiblocks to be  revived again as we can see there are  no  feedbacks  and  updates  regarding on this  coin. I really miss this  coin though  because  it really make  me  some  money  on the time  it was  operating  but  now  it would  be  really a dream.
8755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Happy 3rd Birthday Unobtanium! on: October 19, 2016, 03:55:54 AM
This is a feat for an altcoin,some altcoin life span only last 6 months,some only a month after their ICO,a coin is worthy to adopt if it pass one year,much more three years.

Happy birthday Unobtanium,

You are right  bro, most   altcoin do  only last 6 months  or  less and some   1 month after their  ICO. If this  coins have  survived  for 3 years  already then  its really a good coin and  a good developer for sure  because they managed to last this  long  years.  There are only few  alts could last this  long.
8756  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: October 19, 2016, 03:48:48 AM
I think will be good idea if you should use that for trading and I also Agreed with wildworld invest in gold that a good future to get profit..Just my opinion

12BTC for trading is huge amount and it mostly cause him loose.. but if he have knowledge and experience about Arbitrage Trading then he may use them in That field. but for the simple trading 2 to 3 btc is enough. even if it is altcoin trading then I think he should start with 0.2 to 0.5BTC.


If you  like to have big  profits  on  trading then as  long as you are  ready to risk the 12 btc in trading then  proceed  just be sure that you are  knowledgeable  with it because   possible  big decent amounts of  profits is there  but also the risk  of lossing all is there also and  its  normal  in trading.
8757  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: October 19, 2016, 03:46:10 AM
There is a minimal chance that this will happen but of course it could be possible, the bitcoin is already so big that it cannot disappear right away in my eyes.
It would take years to destroy it fully..
And I believe it will not happen soon, we will be enjoying more the benefits of using bitcoin. It is the new digital currency that is going to be useful for the people who love to transact online as it can help them save for the expenses on the fees, so I guess it will not be destroyed or will disappear, unless the government ban this.

Even though  government  would  ban bitcoin there would  be still transaction  underground  which we could really say that bitcoin would  not  disappear anytime soon  as  long  its been  used  by  people.  You are right  there  are  lots of   benefits we could  make  in  bitcoin thats  why  we  cant think as of  now that  it would  disappear.

At this moment, bitcoin has a lot of benefit and that is why it is attracting a lot of people. First it is the ease of trading across the global. With no 3 days waiting, no bank to bank transaction fee, no conversion rate problems, fast and secure, one of the lowest fee for buying and selling platform, the demand for btc is sure to increase during these few years.

You mentioned all  the  benefits  of bitcoin  which is  very true  and  no money transfers or services  that could able to do  the same with bitcoin thats  why  it became  more and  more popular  in days that would pass. We cant really stop the adoption of bitcoin and  it would continue to  grow on  upcoming years  and   would really take  long time  for it to die.
8758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What will be the price for 1 ICN? on: October 19, 2016, 03:41:29 AM
It all depends on what markets we will be able to trade. I think we will see the price which was on presale (0.00021BTC) due to the large bounty fund and some problems with the Etereum network.
They made wise decision when they allowed  buy/sell ICONOMI accounts before the start of trading, now anyone want to sell his tokens can sell them, so I think a part of bounty tokens will be sold to some holders before 25 october, therefore the price might be better than ICO price when it will be tradeable on exchanges.
For sure each ICN coin would  price more than  on ICO because as we can see  bounty holders and some investors  do tend  to  sell their tokens . FOr sure  part of bounty tokens would  be  sold  earlier  before it launches  in to exchangers.

was expecting someone will actually sell their ICO account but none so ever that I've seen that did it.
there was no one who  successfully sold their account. was trying to check because i'd like to buy as well.
I think maybe they were not unwilling to sell their coins because there will discard their personal email, it is the main factor of them that are not willing to sell their coins ..


But still i saw some  investors  do tend to  sell their  account  even compromising their  email which  i assume that they use  newly created  emails   so that if they would intend to sell it  in the future  they would  have  no problem at all  on giving the email. Price of  ICN  would be  more  that on  the launch price.
8759  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5 Things All traders should Do on: October 18, 2016, 06:07:43 AM
All of those strategy are hard to follow. You can add
also in trading strategy is a decision-making.
Decision-making when to hold or sell the coins that
you bought. But all of these strategy that you posted
really helps the traders.

Its really hard to follow it  on  the first  place especially when you are just  starting  but  when you intend to  follow  it   on  every  trade you would  make  you would  surely get used to it and  these  ways are  useful though and  important  on which  you could somehow increase the chance  on making succesful trades in the future.
8760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 18, 2016, 06:01:41 AM

With the time you can give with your family, I guess nothing can beat that as it is very important as we are just living in this world in a short period of time so we need not to be selfish by just using our time in gambling. I commend you for doing great that you were able to stay gambling for your family.
Its a good way as controlling your addiction give your family a tine rather than gambling at first it is hard you will dont make it only in one day you need to do everyday limit your time on gamblng if you gamble about 6 hours on first less it with a half or one hour then have a bonding with your love ones or family have fun with them.
I would not recommend staying up all  on playing gambling  for how many  hours you should  really put up a  balance  regarding on the time with your family  and  its much better to spend more  hours  with your family than playing gambling . With this way you could actually stay away from gambling.
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