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901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 15, 2023, 02:19:41 PM
There have been even some rumours out such as Vinicius Junior is on the radar of Chelsea this summer. However there is no truth in that and there is nothing that can support this rumour either. Even if Chelsea had interest in him I wouldn't expect either Real Madrid or Vinicius to confirm this deal. Vinicius is very happy at his team now and he has newly signed an extension until 2027.
Vinicius faced some racist expressions by some fans last season you know and it was really sad to still see this kind of things in this sport. But Vinicius stayed professional and he continued to do his best for the team. There is no problem between Real Madrid and him right now so there is no need to leave also.
If Vinicius is not unhappy to be at Real Madrid then of course, Vinicius can leave in this transfer window. Because anyway, with racist incidents will make players no longer feel comfortable in the team, but Vinicius is still at Real Madrid so far and that is also at least proof that Vinicius still likes and enjoys to play for Real Madrid. Therefore, although the transfer is just a rumor, but if Vinicius is not comfortable at Real Madrid, then of course Vinicius can accept the offer to play at a club that has healthier and perhaps not racist supporters. However, if for example Vinicius were to leave at this moment, then it would probably be a bad season for Real Madrid next season losing Vinicius and failing to sign Mbappe for example, but hopefully that won't actually happen.

Distraction, And first of all, I think AI is a lot more advanced nowadays. So in every stadium where the fans are going to make racist comments towards a player, I think they should take action against each of them because they certainly can do that. We have seen a lot of players lose their form and also become mentally unstable because of racism. I do not want to see the same thing happen with Vinícius Júnior.

I do not think he is actually going to leave Real Madrid. He is a very important player for Real Madrid. His future is bright in this club. So it does not make sense for him to leave the club
902  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Motivating gambling addicts to invest in bitcoins. on: July 14, 2023, 08:39:12 AM
Gambling is adventurous for many out there, they like exposing themselves to risk and such people always have the upper hand over every others, do you know that some prefers to be trader, gambler, and investor at the same time? So telling them to leave gambling for Bitcoin investment is half wrong, you should have ask them what they are into before motivating them to invest in Bitcoin, if they are investors how will you know? Maybe you know that they are into gambling, what other things do you know about them? Not all gamblers are useless, some of them are quite smarter.

I understand what you are saying, and I also have a friend like that, he is quite successful in business and loves to gamble. But gambling with him is playing for fun and entertainment, and he always knows to stop at the right time to not affect work and life. But as I understand it, OP is referring to people who are addicted to gambling, and they spend all their money on gambling. OP's idea is good, but applying that is not possible because bitcoin is not like gambling, and it cannot be profitable as fast as gambling. Meanwhile, gamblers want to make quick money, so giving investment advice to gamblers won't work, they will immediately refuse.
903  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Understanding Bitcoin's Potential Realistically on: July 14, 2023, 08:27:18 AM
The reality is that Bitcoin isn't the only thing that counts. Even if Bitcoin becomes the only legal tender in every country in the whole world, I can say with 100% certainty that there will still be poverty and wars and all kinds of evil. Even if all fiat currencies are gone and Bitcoin becomes the global reserve currency and even the only currency the world knows, I'm 100% sure that inequality and discrimination and hatred and greed remain.

Some Bitcoin supporters speak of Bitcoin as if it's something that controls human conduct and character. Far from it. Bitcoin is simply a tool, a tool for everybody; pedophiles, environmentalists, restaurant owners, human rights advocates, artists, meth dealers, and so on.  

Satoshi created bitcoin with the aim of making it a peer-to-peer currency that cannot be controlled by the government, he did not mention that bitcoin would become the solution to all problems in the world. But ironically, so many people who aren't its father are propagating it as a god who came to save our world from trouble.

To me, bitcoin is just money, a tool to help me earn money so that I can have a better life, other than that, it is nothing else in this world. When I say this, it will probably make many people unhappy, but other than using it for profit, I don't see any additional benefit to my life. We have more important things to care about, not just bitcoin.
904  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in Bitcoin in Student Life on: July 13, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
I think investing in Bitcoin is very beneficial in student life. Because the importance of Bitcoin is essential to keep pace with today's world. If you have something left over from your student income after spending the household, or trying to save it, it is possible to become very financially independent by investing in Bitcoin. I invested some money in Bitcoin a few days ago and made some profit from it. I am very satisfied with that. I earned 40 dollar per month, from that I spent 20 dollar in household and invested 20 dollar in Bitcoin. I have benefited a lot from it. This achievement is very big for me in my student life.
Bro are you serious? I'm not trying to patronise you on investment here but $40 per month and $20 for investment and $20 for family needs. Is that really enough?
I think this is too much, although indeed bitcoin has a decent place for investment but when looking at the financial division that you do indirectly it makes you divide 50/50 in all your income and I think it's not very ethical. at least think about your family in a month $20 is in my opinion too small.

Bitcoin is indeed very good to be used as an investment material but there is no need to sacrifice other things and I still feel that if indeed it is your entire income for one month then it is better to use it for daily needs first until you get more money because this is an investment not for the betting arena by putting half of what you have in finances for one month.

$20/month for a family's needs is too little, with that amount not even enough for a week if he lives in my country. But we don't know which country he is from and if that money is enough to support his family because looking at an income of $40/month is also very low for an ordinary worker. But I think he also carefully calculated before deducting 50% of his monthly salary to invest in bitcoin because there is no man who would leave his wife and children hungry and take money to invest.

But there is another risk that I see in his financial plan that there is no savings. He should set aside $20 for his family, $10 to invest in bitcoin, and the remaining $10 to save for emergencies. Not having any savings for life is too risky.
905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are you not hodling on: July 13, 2023, 04:07:28 PM
There are many people who consider day trading as their primary source of income, so it's understandable that they just trade and don't hold for long. I have a friend, he is not a trader, but he is a P2P trader on Binance, he makes a profit by buying and selling USDT. I mentioned holding bitcoins with him, but he refused and said that current economic conditions do not allow him to do so. He understands the market, understands bitcoin, understands the benefits of long-term investment, but the difficult economic situation has not allowed him to realize that dream.
Then we should distinguish investment and trading. These two terms are not the same but some users think they are the same. What your friend is doing is trading and not investment. If he considers the country economy is too bad to invest, he might make a mistake, because he is not the  only one that is facing the economy situation in the country and I believed people are investing in it. And if he is a daily trader, he can still invest some bitcoin for a long time investment plan. And continue his daily trading.

Whether it's investment or trading, the end goal is still profit, as long as they can make a profit, they can choose any field that they feel suits them.

As I said, I once gave him advice on holding bitcoins, but he refused and continued to choose to trade on Binance.  But I won't say he is making the mistake of not investing but just focusing on trading because you and I are not him, we are not in their situation, so we don't know what they are going through.

Life is colorful, and we will never know what other people's problems are, so don't rush to judge them just because they don't have the same thoughts as us. Many people don't hold bitcoins because they have their own circumstances and difficulties.
906  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are you not hodling on: July 12, 2023, 10:33:57 AM
Small traders should never hold. I am a small scale trader. I invest small amount of dollars daily with little profit. I think the only people who hold are those who have some meaning in life, which would not hurt them much if lost. Thatis why I don't hold any tokens because I don't have that much money.
Lolz!!! So the small amount you are investing daily is for what? The amount you are investing daily can be hodle until it grows to a big amount. Every wise man that has small amount of money will start from somewhere and that is what you are doing because you have already started from somewhere. Those who invest with big amount and mistakenly loss that amount, it pains them more than the one who loss small amount so you still have advantage to build yourself.
If you try to understand the guy, you will know what he is saying. I understood him very well and what he meant is that, if he invests in bitcoin for short time period, if there is a financial need, he can withdraw his investment. But if he is hodling, he will not be able to hold for long because he hardly have extra money to take care of himself.
There is no emergency fund,
There is no steady income;
So, holding for long is best for the money you will not be needing in a few weeks or months. People who has held for years are the people that are forgetting the investment in bitcoin.

There are many people who consider day trading as their primary source of income, so it's understandable that they just trade and don't hold for long. I have a friend, he is not a trader, but he is a P2P trader on Binance, he makes a profit by buying and selling USDT. I mentioned holding bitcoins with him, but he refused and said that current economic conditions do not allow him to do so. He understands the market, understands bitcoin, understands the benefits of long-term investment, but the difficult economic situation has not allowed him to realize that dream.
907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My story about bitcoin and my old friend. on: July 12, 2023, 10:14:01 AM


Do you have the same story, I mean a close person, relative or friend who used to dislike bitcoin, and they became regretful after seeing a significant change after meeting again.

Yes, I'm going through what you went through. It's even my real brother, not my friends or any outsiders. He was always booing and criticizing me in 2017-2018 when I invested in bitcoin and lost most of my fortune. He always tells me to stay away from scams like bitcoin if I don't want to lose everything. But after the bull season of 2021, I recovered all my losses from 2018, and not stopping there, I made a significant profit.
Now I am teaching him little by little everything about the market.

But after all, I have learned that it is useless to give advice to others if you do not have any proof. As long as you have proof, you don't need to explain or talk too much to them, what others need is results, not just clichés.
908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 11, 2023, 06:10:36 PM
Anyway, Australia never had a quality spinner after the retirement of Shane Warne. Lyon is being held in high regard by the Australians, but for me he is quite ordinary. But the Australians don't have any other choice, as he is their only experienced spinner. They never tried to groom anyone for the last 10 years or so.
I disagree. Lyon played 153 matches across all formats so far and took 526 wickets which is freaking amazing if you think about it. That is an astonishing figure for someone who hasn't even played 200 matches overall yet.

Also, he is the leading wicket-taker among foreign bowlers from outside Asia which says a lot. No wonder the Australians regard him highly.

I know that he is one of the best bowlers. But I just don’t think that he is one of the best. The best I can say for him is that he is decent. I thought Adam Zampa was going to be the next-best legspinner for Australia. But that did not happen. Lyon is a good off-spinner. I think the reason why some people think that he is world-class is because Australia does not have any other player who has been as consistent as him and the others. Australian players have also not gotten so many chances like him. He has also been able to properly use the chances that he got. The only reason that Australia regards him highly is because he has been really consistent.
909  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do when you have Financial Freedom? on: July 10, 2023, 09:08:53 AM
Here in my country, I can do a lot of things. But I'll set off first with my family and let them experience all the happiness that we've never taken before. We're a family-oriented country and that's why we're thinking of each other as we struggle altogether before, then we'd be happy altogether after. Well, success is already there and money is no longer an issue and just like everyone is saying about buying properties, enjoying life and living to the fullest, those are nothing new and common thing that I'll shall do next too.

We all want to take our families away from poverty and for me, helping them fulfill their dream of living a comfortable life is more than a financial freedom for me.
It is when we can buy both our wants and needs without worrying for tomorrow.
With enough savings and investment and having a passive source of income would be a lot more fulfilling.
A secured future when we can afford to live the way we want without working 9-5 or more would be my definition of it.
We all want to live comfortable life, it may not be luxurious but at least we are enjoying all the moments to live without always worrying about how we can survive life tomorrow.

I really appreciate people who think of their family and loved ones first. There are a lot of comments above saying that when they are financially free, they will do charity and help the poor... blah.. blah...all of that will be meaningless, and it's just a bragging kindness cavity. Because when we are our own relatives, we can't even help them, helping outsiders is just flaunting and bragging about being a good person. But are we really good when our parents or siblings still haven't received any help from us?
I will not wait until I achieve financial freedom, as long as I have the opportunity to help my loved ones, I will be happy to help them, I always put my family first and then outsiders.
910  Economy / Economics / Re: What could Elon Musk be buying next? on: July 09, 2023, 01:34:54 PM
With so much wealth, Elon Musk can always buy something he wants, including things that are difficult for others, but he easily gets it, after giving a surprise in the crypto world last year, we all hope that this year he can again push the value of crypto, especially bitcoin, because he is very influential so that the value of crypto easily increases if he has participated in it, Then we will wait for new surprises for the cryptocurrency market, hopefully Elon Musk again does positive things.

He used to have a big influence on the crypto market, but I think he lost it when he used his reputation for his own gain. Many people have lost faith in Elon, but with Dogecoin, I think he still has a strong influence. After what he did to the market, do you still expect him? What he is doing is trying to take our money with no good intentions for the market. I really don't expect him to return to the market, I don't think his entry is a good thing for bitcoin or for us.
911  Economy / Economics / Re: It's Simple to understood now cash is king again on: July 09, 2023, 01:18:04 PM
When it comes to liberties and freedoms in comparison to digital money, the "cash is king" phrase might hold some ground. Though when it comes to storing value and preserving wealth, the phrase is far from accurate.

Gold, silver and Bitcoin, all have a limited supply, while Cash/fiat money can be created at the will of those who are in control of it. As more cash is created, wealth stored in cash is deteriorated. Less assets, goods and services can be purchased over time, contrarily asset values in comparison to cash increase (not just due to demand increase from less appealing money, but because money supply increases).

Don't delude yourself with the old phrase that cash is king. In this day and age, where money can be created exponentially and quickly, it is far from the truth when it comes to preserving wealth and storing value. Limited supply assets will only prevail in the current economic climate which most of the world are in.

In terms of value, cash is nothing compared to assets with a finite supply like precious metals like gold, silver, or bitcoin. But regarding its needs and impact on our lives, it is still king of assets. We will still need and use it for many years before our world becomes fully digital. I even doubt that getting rid of cash entirely is very difficult when our world is not ready. The internet is not universal, the percentage of people who know how to use smartphones has not covered the world, so we will still need cash for many more years.
912  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you prefer to own a luxury watch or invest in bitcoin or other assets? on: July 09, 2023, 01:04:29 PM

People uses luxury watches but I don't know that they use it as a type of investment and I don't have any knowledge about it

Strictly speaking, it is the luxury watch business as they are primarily limited edition, so making a profit from them will be huge if you have big capital and a comprehensive relationship.

but bitcoin as an asset makes large number of people wealthy and because of this investment those who are jobless find a way of earning money. In bitcoin you can put money little by little but I don't think that same will happen with luxury watches and you will have to use overall sum at once.

I disagree with you on the part I have highlighted, how can an unemployed person make money from bitcoin? Bitcoin is an investment, and to make money, they need money to invest in it, and for the unemployed, where will they get the money to invest? Moreover, investing in bitcoin is always risky and highly volatile, you have no guarantee that they will receive a steady income. It would be a mistake to assume that bitcoin is a job and it can reduce unemployment.
913  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: July 09, 2023, 05:41:36 AM
Australia tried really well but was unable to actually win. Australian women lost the match by only three runs. I honestly did not think that England women will have so much problem trying to win this match. The target was really good. The problem is Australia lost wickets at regular intervals. England has started well, but they failed to do anything once the top order got out. Australia was at least consistent. But Mooney, the opener needed to have a better strike rate.
Australia defeated that match because they haven't scored as much as they need after the first 6 overs. But towards the end they were active enough to change the outcome of the match. Australia women team scored 19 runs in 18th over, their collection was 11 in 19th over and they scored 16 runs in 20th over. They were able to score 46 runs in these last three overs. If Australia team could add some runs in the 16th over, It would not have been difficult for the Australian women's team to win that match.

It was a shame that the last match had to go through the DLS method. I think Australian women could have actually had a chance to win in that match. But it is also true that Australia did not score enough to defend even if the match was played for the whole 20 overs in the second innings. But Australia was doing well to pick up wickets.  But it is what it is.

England Australia women's team has always been a close game with England winning once and Australia winning once in the last 2 T20 matches. Today's match between these two teams is very difficult to predict as both teams are strong at times and are playing with a lot of confidence. But according to my personal prediction Australia is slightly more likely to win than England. But regardless of the result of the game, there will be a lot of excitement in the game

The last match was won by England women by the DLS method by 5 wickets with four balls left. Sadly the match was not played throughout the whole 20 overs in the second innings. I still don’t think Australian women could actually win. But the result might have been different. The performance of Australian women was actually not as expected. They have underperformed against England in my opinion.
914  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 09, 2023, 05:13:01 AM
Inter Miami is at the bottom and it will be hard for them to improve. Because they have a big difference in terms of points. I know that they are getting a lot of great players on the team. But still, it is going to be hard to close the gap of point. I think they will be able to finish as a mid table team. But of course, with having Lionel Messi in the team, they can probably fire up toward the end.
I also think that Hazard might be approached by Inter Miami. I don’t think the Saudi league are going to approach him. He has been out of action for a long time. But I might be wrong.
Inter Miami wants to get some Messi old teammates to build the team around Messi, they understand the difficulty he had in PSG. Messi can't perform in a team that doesn't have at least four former Barcelona teammates, he's used to one system of playing, that is why he could not make any difference in PSG, at his age.

If Inter Miami could get those players into the squad, then, they will bounce back. The word thing about this American league,is that they don't have relegation. It's discouraged hard work. Messi just wanna rest, even Barcelona rejected him.

I think Messi is an individual who can motivate the players to perform well. We saw that in the Argentina squad. He was able to motivate the players to perform well and eventually, he was able to win the world cup with the Argentina squad. So, I think he will be able to encourage and motivate the Miami squad as well. And it will be easier to do when he has older teammates or the players who played with him previously alongside him.
915  Economy / Economics / Re: Fix the money, Fix the world. on: July 08, 2023, 09:55:32 AM
Currently we all live in a country that has certain regulations and it all depends on our respective countries, so the problem as you explained is actually very interesting because this is all for the freedom of people in running their daily lives, and currently we are all still tied to our respective currencies so it is difficult to make Bitcoin as a more valuable thing than the current currency, But for the future I believe Bitcoin will definitely be a serious threat to fiat currencies, because the development of Bitcoin is getting bigger.

Have you ever thought that if bitcoin becomes a threat to fiat, will it continue to exist? Fiat is a tool that represents government power and what they use to control us. If you think bitcoin threatens the existence of fiat, that means it is also threatening the power of the government, and it is never a good idea to go against the government. I don't expect bitcoin to be the government's enemy; on the contrary, I hope they will realize its benefits and accept it can coexist with fiat. Both will coexist and support each other.
916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: July 08, 2023, 09:46:56 AM
Not to hi-jack UFC 290 but Jones vs. Miocic is official! They will headline UFC 295 on Nov. 11

Dana's announcement: https://rumble.com/v2yqvrr-dana-white-announces-jon-jones-vs-stipe-miocic-to-headline-ufc-295.html

Okay, this is going to be huge. This is obviously a dream fight for a lot of people to see. Two great fighters fighting against each other for glory. It doesn't get better than this. UFC 290 is still going to be interesting. But a lot more people are going to be interested in the Jones vs Miocic upcoming fight.

(Interesting to see a lot of people moving to Rumble. Probably this is the only platform of free speech after Twitter)
917  Economy / Economics / Re: Automating your savings will help you save more on: July 08, 2023, 09:42:50 AM
This is actually good idea only if you have a stable income and financial status since you don't have to think of the deduction to your salary. Plus in case you want to use those deduction that you'll be needing but it's automatically will deduct then it might be a problem. For me, it would still be a good to have savings without even automatic but it's stil ldepends since some people want to be determined by saving that's why it's automatic and some would still prefer incase of emergency it woudln;t be a hassle since there's a fee

So true. and indeed this method only works well with people who have a stable income or have a steady income. like an office worker or something. But for freelance daily workers. so this method is still difficult to implement. I personally have a steady income and also have additional income from side jobs as well as casual daily jobs. But I still prefer to manage my savings manually. Because I'm used to it. but maybe for those who are not used to it it will be quite difficult.

My income is also very stable, but I would also choose to save manually instead of automatically, not only because it is a habit but because it will give us better control of the savings account. Sometimes there will be months when we will spend more and save less, and there are months when we can save more. So, saving manually is sometimes more beneficial than automatically, but everyone has different preferences. Whether it is manual or automatic savings, as long as we always have savings, it is something that everyone must have.
918  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Seniors vs Kids — in the future of Bitcoin on: July 08, 2023, 09:20:28 AM
It's not right to force our kids to do what they don't want to do, especially forcing them to know bitcoin, bitcoin is not what you can force a kid to know, you can for your child to school and secure minor employment opportunities not a bitcoin, whosoever that have have a kids don't have the right to suffocate them because the person want to impact the knowledge of bitcoin the his kids by force, a child will work on what he can do better

There are certain things we need to understand when we argue things especially on the things of bitcoin and how we should teach our kids or not. A responsible parent will force their kids to go to school even when they cry because they don't want to go why? I think because of the importance of education now coming to bitcoin and our kids, I think it is the responsibility of the parent to decide if they want tthir kids to have the knowledge of bitcoin at early age but if the kids are not interested to learn, I don't their parents will want to force it on them knowing that they won't take it seriously.

You cannot compare the essential knowledge of life with the knowledge of bitcoin. When your children grow up and are old enough to go to school to learn the basics like writing, reading, and basic math… all of these are necessary for later, so it doesn't matter if they like it or not, that is mandatory. But with bitcoin, if a person doesn't have it, they still have a normal life, even many people are still rich, still successful even though they don't know what bitcoin is. Those are two completely different disciplines, and bitcoin is not a must-have for everyone.
for now bitcoin is not something that everyone has to know, and I think we know bitcoin at this time just to make a profit from bitcoin, while children will find their own way, indeed knowledge of technological development is very important to know, but don't have to go deep into it. when our children grow up, maybe bitcoin has been legalized as currency, then what we are looking for to support our children's family is basically money, and that can be obtained from their profession later. as parents we should only direct the talent of the child

You are right, we don't even know in the future what bitcoin will become, will it remain an asset or a currency, or will it cease to exist in the world? In short, bitcoin is not an important knowledge that anyone should have, especially for children. Moreover, like I said, investing in bitcoin is not the only way to success, don't forget there are many people richer than us, but they don't know about it.
Many of us are investing in bitcoin, but let's be honest, how many people here got rich off of it? Therefore, let's raise and take care of our children in a scientific way instead of just imposing our thoughts on them.
919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 08, 2023, 12:41:17 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Inter Miami sign a deal with all the rumoured stars. Hazard is the youngest among them though so it might seem more surprising to most people. But when we think about how Hazard's performance dropped down after a long-running injury it also makes sense to me. There is literally no European team that are interested in him now as far as I know.

Inter Miami are at the bottom of the MLS standings right now. All of these transfers must give them hope to recover from this situation. Besides they will make their fans watch a much better football with big names like these. Maybe these names are old now but they can still be quite useful there.

Inter Miami is at the bottom and it will be hard for them to improve. Because they have a big difference in terms of points. I know that they are getting a lot of great players on the team. But still, it is going to be hard to close the gap of point. I think they will be able to finish as a mid table team. But of course, with having Lionel Messi in the team, they can probably fire up toward the end.

I also think that Hazard might be approached by Inter Miami. I don’t think the Saudi league are going to approach him. He has been out of action for a long time. But I might be wrong.
920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Seniors vs Kids — in the future of Bitcoin on: July 07, 2023, 01:02:57 PM
It's not right to force our kids to do what they don't want to do, especially forcing them to know bitcoin, bitcoin is not what you can force a kid to know, you can for your child to school and secure minor employment opportunities not a bitcoin, whosoever that have have a kids don't have the right to suffocate them because the person want to impact the knowledge of bitcoin the his kids by force, a child will work on what he can do better

There are certain things we need to understand when we argue things especially on the things of bitcoin and how we should teach our kids or not. A responsible parent will force their kids to go to school even when they cry because they don't want to go why? I think because of the importance of education now coming to bitcoin and our kids, I think it is the responsibility of the parent to decide if they want tthir kids to have the knowledge of bitcoin at early age but if the kids are not interested to learn, I don't their parents will want to force it on them knowing that they won't take it seriously.

You cannot compare the essential knowledge of life with the knowledge of bitcoin. When your children grow up and are old enough to go to school to learn the basics like writing, reading, and basic math… all of these are necessary for later, so it doesn't matter if they like it or not, that is mandatory. But with bitcoin, if a person doesn't have it, they still have a normal life, even many people are still rich, still successful even though they don't know what bitcoin is. Those are two completely different disciplines, and bitcoin is not a must-have for everyone.
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