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901  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt, bitcoind testing requested! You can help. on: December 07, 2012, 12:28:29 AM
If you are more adventurous,
the much improved, faster next version (0.8 ) needs lots of testing, too.  Especially on Windows.

I have this installed and am running it but I have no idea what constitutes to a test. Would be great if you could give me some instructions or link to a post where I could find them.
902  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Top 25 Threads (24h) on: December 06, 2012, 01:15:59 PM
Yeah, I dunno why BitcoinX removed it.

I think the owners changed. I think the original owner has put his top15 list back up again here: http://blockchained.com/
903  Other / Meta / Mining - transaction validation / issuance of bitcoins on: December 06, 2012, 01:11:24 PM
I've been thinking.. A strong case can be made against the word mining that Satoshi chose to use for transaction validation / issuance of new bitcoins in Bitcoin. I think you'll agree that it has often if not the majority of the time been a disadvantage when it comes to explaining Bitcoin to laymen. Mining is quite a concrete and fairly clearly defined activity that most people already have an idea about how it should look and what it is suppose to be so it often confuses them because we as a community rarely stress that this is just an analogy in Bitcoin and there is no actual mining or anything similar going on.

We all know that what is really going on however is transaction validation and the issuance of new bitcoins.

So I had an idea, maybe we could benefit when it comes to mitigating the confusion that the word mining can cause if we changed the name of the forum section

"Mining" to

"Mining i.e. transaction validation/issuance of bitcoins"


I agree it's not as short and sweet but I think it could go a long way towards making things clearer to anyone new to Bitcoin.

What do you think?
904  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [COMMUNITY] Taaki, never tell anyone you are involved with Bitcoin ever again. on: December 06, 2012, 12:50:20 AM
I think this part of a really amazing TED talk is really fitting for this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=chXsLtHqfdM#t=841s

"The truth about entrepreneurship: You have to be able to do three things beautifully, make it optimally, sell it optimally, handle your finances optimally and no single human being can do all three optimally."

Taaki simply can't sell it and he shouldn't try doing what he can't do. (Well he can't make anything or handle finances either, but's another story..  Roll Eyes)
905  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: December 05, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
bug report:

under "Receive money" if I go to "More actions" and choose "Show relationship diagram" a pop window opens, the blockchain frontpage loads and I get this message: Unknown Exception: null

and if I choose "Group addresses by taint" it stays on my "Recieve money" page but I get an error message "Error downloading taint data"
906  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Development - BOM Ready - 50 kits being prepared on: December 05, 2012, 06:06:27 PM

Since you are interesting in how long, I think Someone42 and I will have a few boards assembled for validation only in 6 to 8 weeks.
I'm plan on staying at the validation phase for a while. Don't want to rush boards to everyone without finding the HW bugs first.


Sounds excellent! I really can't wait until both your hardware wallet and the piglet become available and make secure handling of bitcoins with ease accessible to any user.
907  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-11-27 AntiWar.com now accepting bitcoin donations! on: December 05, 2012, 04:31:29 PM
Let's get Tom Woods, the rockstar Austrian economic historian who I believe is friends with the antiwar.com people, to look into Bitcoin. If he came onboard he'd become the best public speaker Bitcoin ever had.

I asked him a while back if his libertyclassroom or w/e would accept bitcoins and he dismissed it as more hassle than it's worth or because it's in a legal gray area, I can't remember why exactly, but he is no fan.
908  Economy / Economics / Re: You Know Whats f**king Sad? on: December 05, 2012, 11:51:54 AM
I'm sorry but I haven't the faintest what you are on about, your post isn't coherent enough to really convey anything. Better luck next time.
909  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] BitSafe Hardware Wallet Development - BOM Ready - 50 kits being prepared on: December 05, 2012, 11:49:11 AM
Wait, you finished the hardware wallet?
910  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ANN] Hardware wallet project on: December 04, 2012, 01:43:51 PM
We're actively working on the project and we're making progress on many details. You know, there's no linear progress. Every piece must be finished independently, then integrated to the final solution somehow. At this stage many pieces already work. It requires some patience to put them all together and then *bang* - we're done :-).

I'm working on RPi software prototype, Stick is preparing circuit and PCBs for custom device, Lionluck is preparing casing prototypes and optimizes them for mass production (next prototypes will be finally made from eloxed duralumin/aluminium, not from plastics Smiley ).

Our original deadline was to have working prototype on RPi in December, which was somehow fulfilled - I already signed transaction with deterministic wallet over protobuf/serial connection and broadcasted it to bitcoin network. Then I disassembled it again because I found better solution for transaction streaming. I also heavily refactored original code, to be more similar to MCU environment (single threaded, non blocking code in master loop). It also interfaces HW buttons and OLED display with fancy UI (if we can call "fancy" anything on 128x64 px viewport Wink ).

So there's progress, but it is all under the hood. At this stage there's nothing breath-taking to show publicly, but nevermind - that time will come :-).

Sounds awesome, keep it up!
911  Other / Politics & Society / Re: national minimum wage LAWS. good or bad? on: December 04, 2012, 11:45:09 AM
Do they not know what price controls do to the supply of a resource?

^this and

Do they not understand that a minimum wage is a price control?

^this probably.

And it's not really their fault because no one taught them this, so how could they know? No one taught them how to reason correctly either, so how could they ever figure it out on their own?

The answer is to keep educating, preferably the younger still fairly open to new ideas people.
912  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ANN] Hardware wallet project on: December 04, 2012, 11:40:18 AM
Any updates slush? Sorry for being impatient but I'm really eager to see this being finished and sold to end users Cheesy
913  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-11-29 LondonNewFinance - Digital Money Seminar (videos) on: December 03, 2012, 09:36:55 PM
My objection to this sort of explanation is that while it is technically correct, it gives absolutely no insight into why any of this is happening; what's the point of all this bundling and bow-tying anyway? Or who is resetting that combination lock and adding and removing digits from it?

You are right, so I made another attempt:


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Imagine that every "Bob sends 1 bitcoin to Alice" transaction is an envelope. What Bitcoin mining is is listening to the Bitcoin peer to peer network for any new envelopes flying around and gathering them. At the same time you're gathering all these new envelopes you're trying to bundle them up into a package and tie a nice bow on it. To tie a bow you have to solve a math problem, and the solution to that math problem is the fabric that will give the bow the right shape, a shape everyone else in the network will recognize as following the rules of Bitcoin.

So, many people are doing this, they are gathering up all these new envelopes(transactions) and trying to tie a bow on the new package. Who ever is first to successfully tie a bow on the next new package, gets to send this package to everyone else in the network. They also automatically insert their own special envelope that isn't coming from anyone but is addressed to them with a reward of X bitcoins (was 50, now is 25) for doing all of this and that is the block reward and it's how all bitcoins will be issued.

When the rest of the network receives his package they check the bow and the contents of the package and if the package looks like it's following the Bitcoin rules they add a copy to their chain of packages they already received and if it doesn't they simply ignore it, hence why no one can cheat in Bitcoin and issue themselves more bitcoins then allowed by the code.

Then everyone tries to bundle up all the next new envelopes that aren't included in any of the packages yet into a new package of their own again and thereby starting a new round of competing for the reward for successfully doing so.

The reason this is done so is because Bitcoin is decentralized. If you have a central authority that keeps track of all the envelopes(transactions) you don't need this complicated system. But because Bitcoin is decentralized this is the only way yet discovered how it can work and it does work very well. Instead of a post office keeping track off all packages and deciding how much new bitcoins are issued, everyone part of the network is doing it, and everyone is issuing the new bitcoins through this lottery of tying a bow on the package. And that math problem is analogous to a lottery because it's random who solves it first although the faster your computer the higher your chances.. Also it's difficulty is dynamic meaning that if more people participate in the lottery it self adjust and gets harder to win so that there is an insured constant rate of 1 new package added to the chain every 10min on average.

All of this, the difficulty, how the bow must look like, the reward amount, when it's being cut in half was decided and embedded in the code of Bitcoin and cannot be changed anymore because to do so, you'd need to convince everyone part of the network to download a new version with new rules, which is pretty hard but more like next to impossible given that it's open source and anyone can read the entire code.
914  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Credit Union? on: December 03, 2012, 04:45:48 PM
I AM NOT ATTEMPTING TO OPEN A BITCOIN CREDIT UNION

Your OP was unclear on this part and I understood the exact opposite. Given that that isn't true I retract everything I said.
915  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Credit Union? on: December 03, 2012, 04:06:52 PM
Or you could stand your ground and make them go to court and try and prove that bitcoins are money.

Ok Bitcoin is money and now any exchanger is subject to all the state regulations regarding money transmission.  That was kinda the whole point. Eventually FinCEN will make a definititive declaration that Bitcoins is money (unlikely) or that Bitcoin is a currency substitute and thus Bitcoin related enterprises to both federal and state regulation.

"Standing ones ground and taking them to court" would simply make that day arrive sooner.

Listen to yourself. You want to beg them to beat us up? According to their rules we aren't doing anything wrong right now, why poke the pile of crap and invite them to change their rules sooner rather than later?
916  Other / Politics & Society / Re: national minimum wage LAWS. good or bad? on: December 03, 2012, 03:09:10 PM
So we agree that minimum wage laws supporting a living wage are good and that business profitability is a complex issue that cannot be narrowed down to one issue like consumer demand. I would love to debate you live just to hear you shouting and ignoring my argument like you are now.

You don't have an argument. When you do, I'll respond to it.
Your contention is that a free market can exist simply because it can be shown "in theory."

Nope, not my argument at all. See, you can't even read, let alone compose an argument.
917  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Credit Union? on: December 03, 2012, 03:02:11 PM
Or you could stand your ground and make them go to court and try and prove that bitcoins are money.
918  Other / Politics & Society / Re: national minimum wage LAWS. good or bad? on: December 03, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
So we agree that minimum wage laws supporting a living wage are good and that business profitability is a complex issue that cannot be narrowed down to one issue like consumer demand. I would love to debate you live just to hear you shouting and ignoring my argument like you are now.

You don't have an argument. When you do, I'll respond to it.
919  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: December 03, 2012, 02:53:07 PM
That was quick.

Wow lol, someone is still dumping between $12.5 and $13.
920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Point for Bitcoin! Point for Linux! And point for Ubuntu!! on: December 03, 2012, 06:32:07 AM
i just returned a Windows 8 computer to Best Buy b/c i couldn't install Ubuntu due to the new bootloader Microsoft is employing to block competition.  i hated the new Windows 8 Start page as well. 

personally, i think Msft is doomed.  their stock price is dropping once again and i'm considering shorting them.
a "new bootloader" to block competition... ugly!!

Don't think that's gona last long  Roll Eyes  Wink
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