What troubles me most is that Adam Back himself said that the product do exist and he saw it.  If Adam pulls a scam like this he is done. All the dude did was report seeing something. He didn't implore people to send all their money. Still, it wouldn't be a good look. I find it laughable that the supposed bitmain killer requires a no post noob to reassure other noobs they haven't stolen all their money. Yep, that's precisely how you become a world leader in your market. Tim cook and Jeff bezos could learn a thing or two from these guys. |
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So... how can we list BYTEBALL in $/MB.. this will do wonders for the adoption!
it's been discussed a million times. for whatever reason it's not happening. this is one of the very simplest things to do and it would make a huge difference whether we like it or not. i can't believe that one single coin hasn't done this yet when it's so obvious. something as huge as bitcoin can't do this without it being messy. byteball is small enough. it's byteball's loss if it doesn't happen. |
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"certain bitcoin address"? More like 99% of all the addresses.
The only people making out are the people with small amounts and miners, but with their fork, they are able to keep 99% for themselves. This is not a distribution, but simply a money grab for themselves.
uh, yep. but i think most of the people getting shirty have poor reading comprehension and somehow think it's to do with their real bitcoin even though that's not possible. it's their crappy coin to do with as they please. people who don't claim it aren't being denied anything other than free access to some shitcoin. there'll be plenty more of this in the future. i don't see why anyone would really care. |
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I think this should have happened long time back as he literally destroyed the Crypto market and people like noobs went behind these artificial pumps and dumps. What might seem good to one individual might not be correct to other and people need to understand that just because if someone has 12k followers, doesn't mean he knows everything.
Most of the calls that he did over the last few days we pump and dump. I bet no one even bothered to read even his comments except the coin name.
that says more about the bubble heads who populate the crypto market than the man himself. if one old madman tweeting 'i like this coin' drives every single one crazy it's a sad reflection of the suggestiveness of the people out there. |
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[2] send from same address to same address 0.0001 BTC, then check their ub explorer, then import private key(after you secure BTC to another address)
[q1] yes, if you moved funds to another own address, you can claim by sending some back to original address
[q2] they will send ub to same address with ballance @ #498777, you will have to import private key to get them
if for some reason you had transaction between Block 494000 and Block 498777, which returns change to sending address, you already have ubtc, check ubtc block explorer
ah. some clarification. i've changed my mind about this. as it's such an offensive shitfork i want to claim it for pure dumping. currently my funds are on a hardware wallet and there's no way i can be bothered to expose the seed of that. if i send to a paper wallet does anyone know if i can use the mycelium cold store spending feature to send to the same address in the same way? i really would not want to screw it up. once that's done it's back to the hardware wallet. |
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your choice depends on which coins you want to store. there's some overlap between them but also quite a few that aren't shared. i have both. i don't really have strong feelings about either one myself.
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They're not stealing anything. They're forking but using it to deny certain bitcoin addresses these forked coins.
Their fork, their rules. Even if they're dumb ones. They're welcome to 'mine'.
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A million dollars is nothing to these people. They might thrown down a million in the other direction tomorrow.
No idea what 2018 is gonna bring. It could be epic again or terrifying. I don't mind too much really.
I never thought these figures could be reached so soon. If it falls from here then it can certainly do it again with a vengeance in the future.
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Wut? One of the prime candidates for the never ending bear market was the relentless selling and laundering of those coins.
The guy who might have done it is in custody right now.
Your average hacker does not have the patience to wait seven freaking years and does this statute apply globally? Nope.
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They're falling now after the spam attack but they'll always remain vulnerable to malicious miners.
It sucks but it is what it is for now and none of us little people can do squat about it.
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i think early next year we might see a real alt run if bitcoin decides it's had enough for now. it'll be very interesting to see what byteball gets up to in that scenario. it's the type of thing waiting to be discovered by enough people. i only wish they'd sort out the unit bias thing and list it as mbyte instead. this is really holding it back because people are so stupid they can't see past it.
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of course the people getting involved now are in it to make money. it's slowly being sanitised and most people don't care about financial sovereignty. they believe millions of dollars equals financial sovereignty. maybe they'll get schooled in this while they still have bitcoins and before they change to dollars. until then expect the original ideals to get more diluted.
as for me if i reached a set figure that i require then anything beyond that would be given away.
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if it can then i'd sell everything and walk away. it would prove that bitcoin was a failure if a fork put together by a bunch of crooks with a lot of money and mining power can usurp the original chain.
just imagine what government level resources could do if they turned their attention to it. nothing in crypto would be a safe enough bet.
if it was the organic choice of the users then that's one thing, but the blockchain spamming, shilling, wash trading and coordinated attacks with bitcoin difficulty changes tell us that is anything but the case.
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I believe even the bitcoin core devs are moving to create their own currency as bitcoin's position is currently untenable.
So rise of the Alts, don't be surprised if Ethereum is the no.1 currency of the future.
the creator of ethereum himself would tell you that ethereum is not a currency and shouldn't be used or treated as one. i guess that's not gonna stop people but that's how it is. and it's amazing how fast people have forgotten the dao thing. as a platform to entrust your life savings to it has already blown it by doing the worst possible thing a cryptocurrency could do. |
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i read the requirements. i don't quite get it. i have to receive to the same address that i sent it from. is that even possible? maybe i got it wrong.
anyway jeff garzik seems to be the king of orwellian blockchains and i assume that if previous forks weren't data harvesting false flags, this one most definitely is.
but i don't understand how this is supposed to bring anything to its knees. it's just another junk fork by the same bunch of assholes.
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if everyone switched to an alt then the same problems would arise. hopefully not technical limitations as they should already be dealt with, but there'd be power struggles and lashings of fud all round.
and i'd like to see the next candidate maxed out every second of every year for a few years before deciding to trust it. some of these alts promise the world but might fall apart when told to deliver it.
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absolutely. and the same things goes for the journey downwards too. if you luck out then you choose a coin with a real future but the chances are that the coin is some pump group's stooge.
if you can ride the same wave, great. but don't go developing some belief in your own genius. most of it's cynical or random.
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kinda pitiful how one maniac writing a hundred words or less is enough to move all these markets. just goes to show how dumb and vapid it all is. presumably it goes back to normal when he moves on to the next tweet.
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Spoiler: Coinbase CEO is the one who directly involved in this fraud.
Why? Because Coinbase are a well known big block sympathizers, they are essentially a Bitcoin bank and they would benefit the most if the network would become more centralized because of bigger blocks.
At first they were supporting SegWit2x, now they are pushing Bcash as a scaling solution, claiming that it's for the good of their customers who are suffering from high fees.
But in reality Coinbase is responsible for the current congestion, they never implemented batched transactions that reduce fees by 90%, they didn't implement SegWit that reduces fees by 50-75%.
This just shows that they don't really care about their customers, their real goal is to attack Bitcoin. Manipulating the Bcash price is a part of this attack.
Yeah some ulterior motive must be at play for such a chaotic event. There's no way a professional outfit would've pulled any of that. And there's no way they'd go all in on such an absolute shitcoin either. The concept may have merit, the execution is a flat out insult. I've seen tweets recently about the wretchedness of their handling of transactions. Again, you don't do it that badly without a reason but maybe it's just a lack of time and competent staff. |
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everything would be toast. there would be no coming back from it. even if they migrated across to a new protocol you'd still need old private keys to redeem and they may be stolen, useless or compromised.
there wouldn't really be a market. exchanges would probably have to freeze trading and everyone without fiat wouldn't be covered for anything. technical annihilation must be in their terms and conditions somewhere.
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