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921  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread on: February 02, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
This is ridiculous. For almost 1 million dollars, you wouldn't get it this right? Or at least have someone post here telling us what's going on! Make us wake up so early in the morning for this shit.

Sounds like somebody's impatient Smiley

Never forget what BitSyncom posted earlier:  it is a market where demand vastly outstrips supply.

If he posted a 4chanlulz site, full of obscenities, with an order form that accepts shipping info and bitcoins, batch #2 will still sell out.

922  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 02:25:52 PM
Have you tried measuring the power without the UPS square wave being invovled? I.o.w. plug it straight into the wall (or perhaps with a transient protector only)?

No, though several have requested that.

It would be good to eliminate the UPS as a factor, agreed.

923  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 02:25:17 PM
What are the odds that you could get an Avalon to run with a program like 50miner or guiminer?

Supposed the source will be opened, probably after Yifu gets some sleep and batch #2 sales </guess>

In that case, other miners may be modified and used.  It appears to be a modified cgminer, modified kernel (Avalon device driver), and otherwise stock OpenWRT install.

924  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 01:51:12 PM
So, it does not work with p2pool. right?

Just mined all night on p2pool.

It looks like fixing the air flow/physical configuration solved the issues.

No miner or machine restarts while I was sleeping, and while it was mining p2pool.

(no p2pool blocks either, alas)

925  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 01:49:54 PM
what I fear is that avalon guys will mine for themselves for a while before shipping.

They mined on a test pool, according to Yifu.

926  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 08:02:50 AM

Software bug:  changing cgminer configuration claims to work at runtime, but does not.  Thus, changing pool settings requires a reboot.

Yes editing the configuration file has no effect on a running cgminer.

Your comment is entirely unrelated to the problem at hand.

The management software is fully capable of restarting cgminer.

927  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 06:53:38 AM

Software bug:  changing cgminer configuration claims to work at runtime, but does not.  Thus, changing pool settings requires a reboot.

928  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 05:43:37 AM
The host in this case is a OpenWRT board pulling what 10W? Ok so 620W vs 610.  Claiming 400W on your site is disingenous.  Sure you have DC to DC losses so does anyone but that is part of the power load.  AMD doesn't quote the power consumption of the raw chip when selling an entire graphics cards.  They quote the card power usage which includes GPU, RAM, VRMS, fans, and any associated control circuitry.   

Your system doesn't use 400W.  Don't advertise that it uses 400W.  It uses ~600W.  Claiming anything less and then saying "oh it needs a host" when you know the host board is pulling a tiny fraction of that is just plain dishonest.  Period.   620W vs 400W is a 55% increase.  That is significant.  Rise above your competitors and start acting like a real company.  You know a real one which wouldn't pull a stunt like this because they would be facing a class action lawsuit for blatant misreprenstation of a material fact.

However, it is fair to provide the base power consumption, because that potentially provides a better apples-to-apples comparison with other competitors.

IMO module and whole-unit power consumption figures would be the ones to publish.

929  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 03:30:49 AM
When quoting BFL's numbers, no one includes the PC it's hooked up to either.

+1, a fair perspective



930  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Best demonstrated efficiency: 150 Mhash/Joule on: February 02, 2013, 03:29:32 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140539.msg1497042#msg1497042

OP and title need to be corrected: It's closer to 100MH/s/J. It seems that Avalon uses 620w, not the 400W they've been claiming.

See ngzhang's post here before updating.

Consider PSU efficiency etc.

931  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread on: February 02, 2013, 03:28:03 AM
RE power

See ngzhang's post here.

932  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread on: February 02, 2013, 02:31:20 AM

Avalon miner power usage snapshot has been posted.  This should help calculate efficiency, electricity costs etc.



933  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 02, 2013, 02:29:25 AM
Power numbers snapshot:

     620 Watts, 5.6 Amps

thanks to Kill-A-Watt.

Code:
   [Elapsed] => 2186
   [MHS av] => 66320.47
   [Found Blocks] => 0
   [Getworks] => 73
   [Accepted] => 2060
...
   [miner_count] => 24
   [asic_count] => 10
   [fan1] => 0
   [fan2] => 1920
   [fan3] => 1920
   [temp1] => 27
   [temp2] => -1
   [temp3] => 48
   [temp_max] => 49
934  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 01, 2013, 09:22:22 PM
Did you ever try it in p2pool

Yes, see the review linked in OP.

Quote
or with a high diff share?

Yes, "vardiff" works on BTC Guild with this miner.

935  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 01, 2013, 06:54:51 PM
Can you just run now and then free and post the results.

Request not understood.

I can watch the process size over time, if that's what you're asking.

936  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [3600 GH] BTC Guild - PPS, PPLNS with TxFees+Orphans, Stratum+Vardiff ASIC Ready on: February 01, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
I apologize for being off topic, but did you post an Avalon review yet?

Yes: http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2013/01/avalon-asic-miner-review.html

937  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 01, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
Paging Jgarzik.  Party of one.  Jgarzik, party of 1!  Your seat at the ASIC table is ready.  JGarzik, party of 1!

ITYM party of 2 Smiley  Bitcoin Foundation has theirs too.

With so many in transit, it won't be along though, I'm guessing.

And in the meantime, folks who have purchased Avalons can ask questions here.

938  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The MAX_BLOCK_SIZE fork on: February 01, 2013, 06:09:52 PM
If the transaction fees are changed to algorithmically follow the block space as I expect would be an alternative solution to this, what will happen is that bitcoin will become expensive enough for an alternative crypto-currency to arise. An alternative to bitcoin which is cheaper will succeed and bitcoin will fail. Thus the only way to keep bitcoin alive is to allow for more volume, such that demand can be satisfied.

Boy that's a shortsighted analysis.

Bitcoin will grow layers above the base layer -- the blockchain -- that will enable instant transactions, microtransactions, and other scalable issues.

Do not think that the blockchain is the only way to transfer bitcoins.

Larger aggregators will easily compensate for current maximum block size in a scalable manner.

All nation-state/fiat currencies are multi-layer.  Too many people look at what bitcoin does now, and assume that those are the only currency services that will ever exist.

939  Bitcoin / Hardware / Avalon ASIC users thread on: February 01, 2013, 05:54:14 PM
Here is a general thread for owners of Avalon ASICs.

This is the review I posted: http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2013/01/avalon-asic-miner-review.html

The restart issues mentioned appear to be have subsided (knock on wood) since I laid the unit down, and adjusted some air flow issues in my office.

940  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [605 GH] Eligius: GBT Decentralized, 0Fee CPPSRB, no reg, BTC+NMC, phone support on: February 01, 2013, 05:42:09 PM

Confirmed:  Eligius is ASIC-ready.  Smiley

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