Founders start burning that 20! Or Zcash will go down whit your GREED!![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.psychologytoday.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Fimage-article_inline_full%2Fpublic%2Ffield_blog_entry_teaser_image%2FGreed_0.jpg%3Fitok%3DPu-W4s3J&t=665&c=dUseZORvA7k_Yg) Founder Zcash eating 20% Founder fee, small guy is a Zcash miner. Yeah and now wtf who is still stupid snd buy it snd feed them!? Buy it like feeding the dev, and ZEC will below than the ether price and we will see it soon. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The supply was over 1 million and the price will be going to 0.005 ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) There are really stupid people keep on mining regardless on the founders fee of 20% which is really to high.They are really feeding the devs while they are just earning on small amounts.As you said this thing will surely happen it will dropped its price lower than 0.02 or even more.We could really say the future of this coin and which its price will dump to the lowest.
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Well, I rent hash power on nicehash and I spend 0.01 btc. after spending all of it, I only got 0.0004 in return. is renting hash power profitable? then why many people still renting hash power on them. am I doing something wrong?
It seems you are investing on a cloudmining site.If you put 0.01 then expected profits on daily basis would be very very low and expect your ROI would be longer and it may take 6 or more months depends on mining difficulty but remember if you invest on a wrong cloudmining then say goodbye already on your money because they will sure go scam in upcoming days or weeks.
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Links on particular threads regarding on this matter is being posted already above and its your responsibility to look at those post since they will give you somehow a good idea or thing that will help you out to build a new coin.For me if you do have a good programming and developing skills then this task would be easy for you but if you dont then you will really need to hire someone to create a coin for you.
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With the signature campaigns this is already possible and you can do some trading or gambling without any doubts for that. I recommend to do some signature campaigns because its way more safe than other methods nowadays.
To earn 0.1 btc only from signature campaign you need to have multiple account enrolled in multiple campaigns and then that amount can be earned easily on weekly basis. that is not healthy! i mean it is good to be able to log in to bitcointalk, post some comments in the afternoon when you are free and get paid for it but to do it in that size i don't think is a good idea. even if you don't get banned you are harming your eyes and wasting electricity. This is true,some people here are earning on that way and 0.1 per week is just a piece of cake on those people have multiple accounts but it is really not healthy same as you said since you are risking your body on exposing too much in front of a pc whole day.I cant imagine to handle too many account and post required on a single day.Its better to find some investments that could able to maximize your potential earnings per week.
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A very rare game to bet which is basing on weather and its really unpredictable unless if you are a weather specialist ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I would like to try out this game.Actually i experienced all types of games that i bet but this one is very unique and unusual.
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As mentioned above i dont know such games that do pay on altcoin.I just only know that pays bitcoin,as he said its better to accept bitcoin payments rather than on altcoin since they really differ on value unless if you have an investment on a particular altcoin.
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Even with their big fees the most good deals just show up at ebay, we dont have a similiar platafform working with bitcoin, and if we had we would still have a problem, we would need some escrow service to act between buyer and seller, because the product might be damaged and the buyer will ask for a refund. At the next 10 years i believe they will reduce those fees, otherwise crypto world may get their business.
I don't think that the next 10 years they will reduce fees because of the inflation as well as the cost of living is increasing yearly. Instead of saying that ebay/paypal will have a reduction for the fees they've got, they will probably improve their service and that will be charged to their consumers, including me and you. They wont really do that thing and you are right instead of reducing their fee they will eventually do the opposite which is increasing more and we cant really do anything about it since people would still use their service and you are right the standards of living will increase as the years goes by and in just commonsense they would rise up too thats why ive choose bitcoin over paypal because of this matter. High fee of paypal or ebay wont really change and the thing you said is very true thats why having bitcoin is really a big privilege for us to use it with less fees compared to paypal and regarding on money transfer it is somehow fast but irreversible but doesnt matter at all. I hope that there are many online stores will accept bitcoin as a payment in the future.
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Any shady cloud mining sites go down recently? lol
Whats the connection of mining sites related into this news? Maybe you are referring that they are running a cloud mining?I don't think so and they don't really matter to build one and as we can see they are using old miners and as mentioned above its more sufficient in electricity since they are using old miners but they will still be facing violations on stealing electricity. Indeed, shady cloud mining has nothing to do with miners! These chinese mining operators are really mining bitcoins but they are stealing electricity which is illegal like in everywhere. Shady cloud mining sites don't really have miners. They only try scam people and say they have miners, but they actually don't have any and just makes a ponzi. Thats the accurate definition of shady cloud mining on which they are just claiming that they are running mining farms but the truth is that those farm doesnt exist at all. In which part of the world we could able to hear that stealing electricity is legal?None,right?If we are planning to run mining operation we should consider first the electricity cost.
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You cant dump it easily on its current price because its high already and no one would intend to buy that hence its just a pure mlm ponzi coin and just a total a waste of money but if you like to dispose them all then sell it on a very low low price it might be sold. The price of tbc as of today is already high.
There are many people already selling TBC and you are correct to say that it has already higher prices. I only observed about this coin and it is very profitable to some people I know.I do believe at all coins started as a "SCAM" even bitcoin, not until someone believe on it and paid for it until it became a community of users. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I dont think so that this coin would be the same as bitcoin which most of tbc users claim. It might just the beggining but seeing on the facts regarding on this coin is not really believable theres no price decrease and everyday it increases and no exchanges do trade it soo much. I dont know where they got the supply.Yes ive seen some users selling their TBC on facebook. As i can see that the price of tbc coins is 1billion euro per coin, but the good thing i think is, the formula of tbc is starting at the initial price of 0.001 Euro until it reaches its ultimate price to 1billion euro! and that is why tbc coin is growing 1%-5% each day just to coop up its "ultimate price" or "original price" or "nature price" "WOW" even me it is really unbelievable...But i think there would such chances for those who missed the opportunity of the other crypto that started first for a global mass adoption before they put money on it like BITCOIN... LuckY to all the cryptcoiners!!! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ill do suicide if this TBC would even reach 1 billion per coin and been used mostly on most people here on earth.I cant just believe that this thing would happen and im sure with these.Im not totally a hater of this coin but i just cant comprehend on the things that being stated by some members of it that it would even surpass or even achieved on what is bitcoin gaining now.
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You cant dump it easily on its current price because its high already and no one would intend to buy that hence its just a pure mlm ponzi coin and just a total a waste of money but if you like to dispose them all then sell it on a very low low price it might be sold. The price of tbc as of today is already high.
There are many people already selling TBC and you are correct to say that it has already higher prices. I only observed about this coin and it is very profitable to some people I know.I do believe at all coins started as a "SCAM" even bitcoin, not until someone believe on it and paid for it until it became a community of users. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I dont think so that this coin would be the same as bitcoin which most of tbc users claim. It might just the beggining but seeing on the facts regarding on this coin is not really believable theres no price decrease and everyday it increases and no exchanges do trade it soo much. I dont know where they got the supply.Yes ive seen some users selling their TBC on facebook.
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Yobit is a shitty exchange. Although I still have some altcoins there. Hopefully Bitsane can step up the plate. By the way are you guys not to include vDice tokens?
Even bitsane is just a newly launched exchange i could really say that it is really better compared to yobit exchange and i agree with you regarding yobit it is really a shitty exchange thats why i decide to left and switching now to bitsane regarding on trading alts hope they will add up more good coins. Well, you cannot compare Bitsane with yobit, it's new but it's outstanding. Yobit has a lot of issues with their clients and they listed questionable altcoins just to gain income. They even offer IOU which I don't really like and it's confusing especially the newbie. Enough for that, Let's just support Bitsane to be popular and gain the trust of big traders. Yeah thats right folks , Im not judging yobit but I recieved and read many complains about yobit. They where some issues that they are clonning other coins and put it on yobit just to get some profit. Im hoping that bitsane wont do the mistake of yobit. I am an active trader in bitsane and i like trading their I dont have any issues in their site. Im hoping the same thing too that they could able to retain the good services that they give now and hopefully dont fade up and continuing it for long term.Its really a normal thing that there are errors that might happen on the future but not as bad compared to other exchanges like yobit,im just stating my views.
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Yobit is a shitty exchange. Although I still have some altcoins there. Hopefully Bitsane can step up the plate. By the way are you guys not to include vDice tokens?
Even bitsane is just a newly launched exchange i could really say that it is really better compared to yobit exchange and i agree with you regarding yobit it is really a shitty exchange thats why i decide to left and switching now to bitsane regarding on trading alts hope they will add up more good coins.
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I am not a sympathizer, but I think they serve some utility.
At least when some hardware can no longer be profitable for people like me, I have the confidence that someone out there can still squeeze some satoshies out of it thus they won't be worthless junk.
I mean the existence of these electricity thieves contributed to the value of secondhand hardware, right?
yes these sort of thieves will be happy getting the second hand hardware but i wish all the thieves who stole electricity gets the real taste of prison and i think china does have a harsh punishment for these sort of things Stealing electricity is a serious crime and for sure those who steal power will end up on jail and I assume that those miners that have been confiscated will be stored or they will use it again by the government.Im not sure but theres a possibility.If that situation happens to my country they will only charge on a small bail and could get out easily with the crime or violation they commited. Its really a serious crim and as i saw on the pictures those are old miners but still a good way to make profits since they have free source of electricity but their happy mining has ended since they are being busted by government.As mentioned above those second thieves will be happy ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Well thanks for suggestion ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) @OP you can try Hackforums , MPGH and get good amount of sales ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Best thing create shopify shop with a good niche and advertise in Facebook and Reddit for sales . Yes, hack forum is also highly recommended and reddit. Also try to make it on face book where many people can read it And also make it in "public" so even your not friend can read it. and make an advertisement there, I tried to use that too for the items i sell and it helps me a lot. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Advertising on facebook is the most easiest way to promote or advertise your products since thousands of people could able to see regarding on it and as you said just make it sure that your post would be on public so that everybody could see it not only your friends but other people that are connected to your friend so this means the range of your advertisement would be wide.
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BTChttp://mixyourbit.com/ have you invested in that site? i have invested but it seems my investment did not appear on it , i guess it is already lost or the site itself is a scam site Now you know that you are being scammed by that doublers. Lesson learned and you should not invest again on these kind of websites since they really dont last long and will definitely scam all of your hard earned money.HYIP sites are just total crap and you are making the owner rich.
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I will never use it to buy drugs on net
Ok so let's say in 10 years time you unfortunately come down with a curable disease but because the government of where you live has banned the drug that you need to save your life would you then go onto the internet to buy that drug with bitcoin? I know it's a long shot but never say never ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Yeah, there may always be prohibited research drugs that still needs to go through clinical trials, but knowing that you only have a few months to live anyways may mean that you are forced to buy it on the dark web. Drugs aren't always bad. There are medicinal uses for almost every drug. That's right, take katamine for example when I was growing up that was totally illegal and only used in vets and the rave and drug scenes but right now there is some ground breaking research news to come out showing that it has many good uses. Discoveries will really surprise us anytime since not all drugs and we know harmful is purely negative but also they have uses and positive sides if they would able to test it carefully.Just like you said ive been believing that all things related to drugs is purely bad.
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It's entirely possible that I could get $40 in bitcoins daily, from my job in real life. Now my question to OP is, why would I want to do anything but HODL those bitcoins? We're in a raging bull market in bitcoin right now, so I view owning btc to be an investment worthy of that description. There's no need to buy anything else once you have your coins.
$40 daily would be really easy if we do have a day stable job,it might be possible also on bitcoin world but you will need investments or skills in able to gain that amount. Investing on bitcoin and hold it on a particular time will surely give us profits on the long run.If i do have the money i will buy if not then just hold the bitcoin earnings you gain from other sources.
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Quiet amazed by the topic.even if we say that bitcoin become greatly popular and will be used by most of us (common citizens) then also i would highly recommend that bitcoin shouldn't interfere with diagnosis stuffs.
Exactly, I also said that now in many countries are not use the bitcoin in open market, it is a main reason, we can't buy easily, not talk about the medicine even we can't buy anything. Especially, in my country, i don't see any shop, where i can use bitcoin, but unfortunately, i can't found it. Even many people know about the bitcoin in this time in my country, but instead of it, we can't use it in open market. Spending it on open market is not really possible specially when bitcoins adoption on your place or nation is not that high then we should really expect that we cant use it directly.How much more if the government will stop the adoption of bitcoin on your place then its already considered that our bitcoin will remain as digital currency and we always exchange it to fiat before we can use it.
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beware of anything in deepweb. sometimes it can be a trap for you. Well, I had several times visited sites in deepweb, and there, all transactions are done using bitcoin. Well, deep web is a very dangerous place, so, if you do a transaction there, rest assured that you have a strong defense on your computer
The deep web is something a community site or just give you something that is extremely bad for all those who can't cope with all the possibilities that exist. Because in the deep web we should be able to control or avoid something which can be recognised by the Government or the police, because if we can't master it then we will become the "scapegoats" in every crime that others do in the deep web Therefore if you want to surf in the darknet or deepweb then you should really ready yourself on the things that you will able to encounter on that place because you would really see the thing that most people didnt even see on their entire life.Regarding on the accounts that are being for sale i areally dont know if its legit or not but mostly would be scams for sure. Yup, with the matter then we more and more alert and we are not missteps while experiencing a problem. Because in our good name risked deepweb us and if we become the target of police then it's all going to change our lives and finally we considered a dangerous person for every thing there is. It is the most severe case, because if we get it all the activities that we do (although it's true) it will be increasingly considered something bad thing We should really be alert and be wary on our actions when we are surfing on the darknet and as you said there are police or authorities are also lurking there and just observing and trying to track possible illegal criminals and if you suddenly click or do something then they would able to track you down and might ruin your life for sure.
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This is more like most known infos about bitcoin and mostly not facts at all or atleast the untraceable part. Also the others are quite known and really isn't somethin that will wow someone if I tell them and show this list of facts.
True, these list is showing the facts about bitcoin and for me it doesnt really make someone to be shocked on it or make them wow since they are aware that it would really exist anytime soon. The thing that could somehow to wow them is regarding on money transfer i guess.
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