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9101  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BITSANE.COM Cryptocurrency Exchange Platform Is Now Live on: November 29, 2016, 02:08:36 PM
I am sorry if this is a stupid question but as you say you support Ethereum,does it mean we can also trade all Ethereum based Altcoins like ICN etc? I have few ICN that I want to sell


Unfortunately, no. Ethereum-based tokens other than Ether require special development.

Ethereum support will be launched in a few hours. ICONOMI tokens will be available later. Stay tuned!
Glad to hear that ICONOMI will be included later. Just want to ask also if XAURUM will be listed too?I believe on this coin and its being traded already on previous months. Good luck to this exchange hope it will succeed and develop even more.
9102  Economy / Securities / Re: Pig Farm Investment. 5 % Monthly. Has been running for 6 months. on: November 29, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
still no reply from OP Huh
You've been scammed, learn from this, and hopefully you will not be scammed again.


This is lesson must be learned by anyone scam incident has been scattered everywhere and we must don't believe on online investment since for me there's totally no real among them and i don't see any site can nor people can give that profit for just waiting, so lets wake up from reality that theres no easy money in this world all need hardwork and efforts, and those offering to good to be true profits and monthly with no basis and proofs of legitemacy is scam.
When i see this thread on the past i could say that its a legitimate one because of the payout that he has given to its investors with proofs and also have videos. If its a ponzi then its really hard to detect it from the very start since the return on monthly basis is not just that high compare to those ponzi sites out there but as ive read OP is not already responding seems it turns to scam or any other reason why OP cant able to reply. Lets wait before we fully decide regarding on this matter.
9103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Zcash worth to invest in it? on: November 29, 2016, 12:40:42 PM
i think i will not buy zcash for now because the price is too expensive too me beside that i don't know when the price will be back like before and i don't think that the price will increase. so i think will buy another altcoins which have low price for invest in short until middle time.

It is better to wait when there is some good application of the ZCash. You might earn too much, but it is safer.

i am sure i will waiting but if its still to expensive to buy, i will not buy zcash, better i am searching another coins to make profit rather than to buy zcash. if we only have small funds, it will not good if we trying to push to buy expensive coins, because once we buy, if the price is drop, we can handle the loss.

but i heard that zcash now is split or something like that, i don't know what the dev called, has 2 other coins which is zcash classic, zdash, i am curious about this two coins.
didnt heard about zdash though and i dont think if those both coins are related as far as i know zcash classic is the other one related to zcash.You are right for those who have small funds its not really ideal to buy coins on expensive prices because if we  suffer lose then its really hard to recover but for those who have big funds i think its okay but it will hurt still.
9104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Good Altcoins Fail on: November 29, 2016, 10:28:31 AM
Good Altcoins mean they are still existing nowadays because they could able to withstand past problems that occur on their career.Actually there are lots of factors which really affects a particular coin  which causes for them to fail like on security matter,funds and marketing stuffs because no matter how good a coin it is if people would not tend to use it then its still useless.There are still coins which fall but still they are forcing to stand up again.
9105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Scam Alert The Billion Coin - Ponzi Scheme on: November 29, 2016, 10:01:00 AM

The client testimonials make me laugh, but not as much as the invented concept of "proof of abundance coin", where the more there are the higher the value.
Whoever thought that shit up deserves a kick in the genitals, maybe from an anonymous client  Cheesy


Those pictures are just came from google for sure. For innocent people they will surely fall for this but not for those experienced users regarding on cryptoworld.Its really unbelievable  testimonials from anonymous person.TBC coin always price increase and cant see any drops of it which means its really a ponzi.
9106  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Two things are certain: Bitcoin and Taxes on: November 27, 2016, 04:36:42 PM
I don't believe there are taxes any where in the world for Bitcoin as they are a decentralised currency, no country into the world control them so no tax in near future. So I don't see any need to panic for this. As and when it shall come surely some loophole shall be discovered.
Well we are not fortune teller but i fell that it can be happen we know government are greedy and corrupt so bitcoin money they will take an action in the future and ask for taxes..  even it is decentralized currency..
This is just my own thought but there is still possibility that it can be happen in the future.
In my own view i could really say that government could not able to control and impose taxes on bitcoin hence its a code and you will really need quantum computers to access into the blockchain maybe they could able to impose tax but only to those merchants who do accept bitcoin as a payment but on the bitcoin itself i dont think its not possible.
9107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A new altcoin scam (PipCoin). on: November 27, 2016, 03:29:33 PM
Pipcoin indeed, I think in future we will have ScamCoin and some people will still invest into it, Greed is driving some people to financial hell.
For sure people would still invest on this coin when it launches.lol. Greediness for money is the real thing thats why some people could see it as an advantage to make money thats why they do things that could able to make money which is creating a scam coin. On previous years investing on ALTS is one way to make money but for now its really hard to trust.
9108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: November 27, 2016, 11:19:33 AM
In my opinion, Zcash is just another hype. As of now, Zcash might be one of the most expensive coin but after a few months and after the hype is gone, you can see that it will slowly die. So if i were you, I will just stick on bitcoin and continue investing for long term rather than risking my money on coins like zcash.
It will not die soon, but totally their will never reach first hype again. The Zcash will below btc in my mind. And the signal was becoming the true in this time.

It depends on the future development of the ZCash. If it can find some good usage and people like anonymity, the price could be higher.
Anonymity is already a normal feature on most altcoin do have thats why its not really a good point to put on zcash and we assume that it has a potential to rise up in the future.We can see the hard dump on its price and now tends to rise up a bit but still i dont have trust on this coin.
9109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Bitcoins have Tax?? on: November 26, 2016, 08:24:48 AM
According the legislation of my country there is no tax for bitcoin transactions. Even more there is no VAT because bitcoin is considered not a coin, like as fiat, but an agreement between two parties

In any bitcoin doesn't have tax for transactions. But if you wish you could consider minig fees as the tax for your every transaction. Apart from this fees there is no any charges for bitcoin.
Those transaction fees are considered as a tax on my part but not connected into government but its just a little amount to consider as a tax. Its impossible for government to impose taxes on bitcoin and thats the good thing about it. Unlike fiat which is already regulated by government then tax is expected.
9110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Really The Future Of Money? on: November 26, 2016, 08:01:06 AM
I don't think Bitcoin will replace fiat but it should have a place in the economy. I believe that it will have several uses including a store of value, a method of payment, and a way to send money.
We might not reach a point wherein bitcoin could totally replace fiat. Even if it has its advantages over fiat, mass adoption might only be just a dream. Although it is still very early and development is ongoing, I don't expect bitcoin to really challenge fiat in the very near future. That should serve as a challenge to developers in further making developments faster.
We wont still able to tell on how bitcoin will be developed on near future but you are right we would not surely reach the point that bitcoin would able to surpass fiat on any way. As you mentioned mass adoption is just a dream but it will still spread no matter what and we cant stop it but there are really places which cant be reached by bitcoin.
9111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Truth Behind New Altcoins on: November 26, 2016, 07:37:07 AM
Its not already a new thing for me but for those newbies out there for sure they dont have enough knowledge to trace this kind of doings on which most new coins or altcoins as of todays are just total crap or trash. Thats why investing on them especially on ICO will somehow hesitates me to put up money because of these circumstances but when i saw a coin which really do have the potential and roadmaps thats the time i will put my money on.
Most altcoins now in the market are just total garbage and most of them are in Yobit website which are sleeping and dumping all themselves on that place.Its not really a shocking news related to this alts but there are some altcoin as of today who remains strong inspite of having previous issues like on ETH ETC.You could able to determin which coin is good and garbage if you do proper research.
9112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: November 26, 2016, 06:48:56 AM
In my perspective gambling should be considered as a sickness. It is a sickness when it becomes an addiction. Addiction is considered an illness in medical world. Even if it is not considered sickness, in my opinion I will still label as that. So when you have problem on gambling like addiction better to cure it as soon as possible seek for an adviser to help you. It is really hard if the disease spread on your mind if that will happen it can't be cured. You will always thinking about gambling everyday on your life, that is though action if you will continue to gamble.
I think gambling can only be  consider as sickness if you are  playing it in a wrong way and continuously losing money which may start affecting your personal and social life also then gambling can be consider as sickness, but if you are playing it in a right way then it will be a good way of entertainment.

So tell us, what's the right way to do play gambling? Roll Eyes There's not any, right? We will all inevitably lose our money in gambling if we do not stop. You said that gambling can only be considered if you're losing money. How about those people that have turned into a maniac because they continuously win in gambling? They keep on betting because they're lucky in gambling. That makes them addicted to it. With your logic, gambling addicts can't be considered as sick when they're winning. Sickness isn't about winning or losing, it's about the addiction itself.
Agree with this, addiction on gambling is the main thing thats why we can call it as a sickness because if you already got hooked into gambling addiction its really hard to stay away from it and for sure you will do anything as long you could able to play and with this addiction you will surely end up on a miserable life thats why we should be aware on this sickness. Gambling is just a game and we should not devote too much our selves into it.
9113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 26, 2016, 06:01:52 AM
Only the ungrateful lose what they dont appreciate, hopefully the seasoned gambler knows many losses and appreciates good luck when it finds him and thats what makes the difference.   Know when to take profits and even quit playing for the meanwhile.
If you are addicted, I believe most gambling sites allow for voluntary restrictions or time out periods to help you keep away.  Should be under settings

The only problem here is that gambling addict does not recognise or know that they are already addicted.  Those time they known that they are addicted is a bit late and are having a hard time to stop themselves to stop gambling thus for the need of an assistant to help them cure their addiction.
Under the situation, they need help. They do not recognize their addiction but we do especially if we are close to them as we care for them, if they are a member of the family then it's our duty to help them so they can be cured and quit gambling for good.
that's right mate helping them with full concerned will make them feel that they can cure this problem, if we tend to help we must extend
our efforts allowing them to be included in many activities that will keep them busy.

If one of our family members do already got hooked into gambling addictions we would surely help them but the thing will stop us that most of them dont tend to tell their problem outside so this means we cant  monitor or know it from the start thats why we cant help especially when the family member is too secretive but if hes an open type of person we will surely help him regarding on this problem.
9114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is GAMBLING? on: November 26, 2016, 05:18:47 AM
Gambling does in fact come from the word 'game' but it doesn't mean something like a light, easy game without much things to be in risk, so I would define gambling as a game activity involving risks and causing dependence. However, the word 'game' is too wide to be in the definition, because for someone life can be considered as a game, and so living is gambling as well.
Really? I just learn that from you, how about the elections, how do you call that type of gambling? Is it a game still?
I don't think it's all about the game, it's basically more on the money which is to win or to lose.
Hes taking up these thing for serious Smiley Game could be define on many ways and we are talking about gambling here which is trully a game which do put risking on your money to earn money and thats whats all about.Theres no need to elaborate more on to those things that arent needed after all. If you risk money on a particular thing then its indeed a gambling.
9115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: November 26, 2016, 04:05:10 AM
The last time I bet in sports betting, it was a parlay, I got the tip, but well, I bet at it the wrong way, but I thought I had clicked the right bet that was broadcast in the tipster thread.  So I update myself by reading that thread about the result, and it was a win, then i was so excited to browse my account only to find that i did not win LOL.  I clicked the wrong bet  Cry  I should have won around 0.1xx that time but well..  Sometimes the noob in me kicks in so it was only me to blame.
Sad to hear about your loss 0.1xx is already a big amount for me and for other people. Be sure next time to click and placed the right bet on a particular team so that it wont happen again on the next time you play on sports.Theres nobody to blame but on yourself only.Actually i made the same mistake too but only on small bet amount.
9116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 26, 2016, 03:34:16 AM
I don't know if it's luck or fate or the stars align but we all go through phases when one seems stoppable, entering a zone like in many sports where you can do no wrong. I think this also applies to gambling, sometimes you are just so focused and calling all shots and making all the right decisions that you think you are god. That's when you lose all your money haha!

Gambling is for entertainment purposes only and it's awesome at that, but if you want to make it something else you are gonna cry. Bet what you can afford to lose and have some fun.
but to me gambling is not for entertainment purpose, to me gambling is for making money only, as to me there is no entertainment in gambling if no money is involve there, and you can enjoy gambling in one case and that is that if you are making money in gambling and if you are losing money then you cannot enjoy gambling.
maybe we have different opinion about gambling because for me also gambling is for entertainment only and just to have some fun activity. im not such a high profile gambler im just an ordinary person who just like to have fun when stressed in work. my wife and i currently gambling in our house and were having such a good bonding with that.
Doing gambling isnt bad after all as long you didnt compromise your money on doing it. Its a very rare situation on where you do both gambling together with your wife.I hope i could do the same thing too especially on vacant times. Winning on gambling does really rely on luck in able for you to win.
9117  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin be used for Good? on: November 26, 2016, 03:05:11 AM
  You can give Bitcoin to homeless people now.
 It looks like even they started using it.:-)
Look at below
https://imgur.com/gallery/Y2eRs
I wouldn't use "they" as that is just one guy and he's not a representative of all the homeless people in the world. Look at the sign, it's not the original sign that he's using. Someone must've put it there to put the photo on the internet and get some attention. Probably put it there just for the sake of fun. Personally, I haven't seen a homeless person have a phone, let alone a smartphone. They don't have the money to buy one and even if someone gives them a phone, they don't know how to use it and they don't have a place to charge it. It would just be a waste.
Most homeless people actually do have a phone and they also have access to the internet occasionally.
I know this because I've lived in Brussels for quite some time and talked to a lot of homeless people there, I know it's just one city and it may not be like this everywhere, but a phone is not that expensive, even a mid-tier smartphone.
But that is a first world country, in third world countries homeless people have problems to even get enough food for their survival, so it is very likely that in the third world homeless people don't have phones.
It depends on the economic state of a particular country.I could say that there are really places which most poor people dont have really mobile phones on which they cant even afford to buy one.Instead of bothering themselves on buying a phone they would rather choose to buy food and clothing thats why its really a big factor which really stops bitcoin on spreading its benefits.
9118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Zcash 10$ +/- on: November 24, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
everybody tell about price near 10$ but now everything is fine. after downtrend zec went up. and dont forget that now it is a btc bullrun.

It is possible that the ZEC has already reached the bottom. So it might hover around the current level for some time.
Its just a fake out for me when i saw on the recent price of ZEC just like what happen when it was just 0.2 before, it raises up a little bit and some people already said that time this is the beginning price increase of zec but those hope do fail because it really even dumped even more and now the lowest price is 0.02 and not starting to cling up but i still dont believe on this coin.
9119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks gonna do what banks gonna do.... on: November 24, 2016, 03:29:49 PM
I just took a small look at this investment.
It looks like one of these stocks is traded for about 10$ more than the actual bitcoin price.
Why would anybody pay more for a bitcoin in form of a stock than for a real one?

Trust, security, influence, ignorance.  Well probably one of those.  Remember not all people that buying bitcoin are actually researching bitcoin and place where he can buy bitcoin cheaper.   Most of the people are often bought stuff that captures their interest the moment a certain stuff is introduced to them.  
Thats the nature of people if they saw a certain thing which caught their interest then for sure he/she would engage in to it even without any proper or enough knowledge into bitcoin but i could say its still a good idea.
9120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2016 and WHY on: November 24, 2016, 02:17:05 PM
These threads are useless. Newbies beware.

Bagholders promoting whatever they got suckered into buying and scammy coins advertising.

Winning comment
Seconded..Most people  will surely promote a coin and most of them are bagholders of it Smiley Newbies should really be aware included still on those veteran members because if you believe on those coins which is somehow dont have potential then you will surely lose up money.
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