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941  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 3 Kidnapped Israeli teens found dead on: July 03, 2014, 04:27:21 PM
'Somebody' killed 3 Israeli teenagers and Israel turns around and destroys homes arbitrarily, arrests hundreds arbitrarily, disrupts life for thousands and starts bombing Gaza arbitrarily. I call this the actions of a government acting as a terrorist state. 

Another sick action by the Zionist right wing government of Israel! It's terrible what happened to those kids, but you don't turn around and start destroying and killing hundreds of people before you even know what happened. For all we know some whacko settlers could have done this for the express purpose of instigating the IDF and Bibi to ,launch another round of destruction, murder and mayhem.

Israel is an insane terrorist state that doesn't respect any international law. FACT!  And we cover for them?
I wonder if we could get Bebe to run for President of the US.....   He's at least as qualified as the present occupant, and he seems to know how to deal with acts of terrorism.
942  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 3 Kidnapped Israeli teens found dead on: July 03, 2014, 04:17:18 PM
It's pretty difficult for me to make sense of anything much the right wing Zionists do, but when I see that the agenda is ethnic cleansing through a constant barrage of destruction, killings and theft of property and land, then it becomes clear that they are a vicious self centered cabal of people that look down on anyone not a tribe member. Racist and supremacist are key qualities and driving force in these terrorist actions against others who stand in the way of their twisted goals.

Then they have the gall to say the Palestinians are terrorists for fighting back against oppression? Ever notice how any Pal walking down the street is instantly a "militant" after an IDF bullet kills him. On paper a dead Palestinian is suddenly a militant, man, woman or child. In the rare occasion when an Israeli is killed and he is a victim, regardless of the circumstances. 
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stat/children.html#source
943  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Osama = Obama on: July 03, 2014, 03:53:57 PM
There are eerie similarities, and i wouldn’t dought the power that be do this. Its would be the biggest joke ever if it they really are the same person, Obama should get an Oscar and a jail cell if it is true, i don’t know what to believe .
944  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down on: July 03, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
The Supreme Court has ruled.   They don't have to join the union or pay union dues.  All that I am saying is that if they don't want to join and pay dues. they should not then be able to freeload off those paying the dues that support the representation of the union in negotiating a higher wage or better benefits.  They can go in and negotiate their own salary and benefits since they are not paying dues.

Surely you also don't believe they should get something for free either -- do you?

I don't know how that's siding with the unions.  That's merely saying you should not benefit off the good will (and dues) of the union if you don't want to be a member and pay the dues.  And you say I'll side with the union no matter what, but the reverse is true for you and yours, that you will side against them no matter what.

I would venture to say that the prevailing reason that folks join a union shop or seek work in a union workplace is for the increased wages and benefits, and that they view their dues as a small price to pay for substantially increased wages over the non-union shops.     And part of those dues are sometimes used to support pro labor candidates, pro labor legislation, and generally looking out for the interests of labor, just like any group of like-minded or like-employed folks do.  For example, I am a court reporter, self-employed.  Part of my membership dues to the National Court Reporters Association and the Minnesota Association of Verbatim Reporters and Captioners goes for lobbying efforts to look out for the interests of our members.  Without unions or private organizations like the ones I belong to, how does the working man have any voice other than their single vote?

And believe me, in a volunteer situation, like my state and national association, the members carry the burden and everyone gets the benefit, which is, on its face, patently unfair, IMHO.

But that aside, whatever their reason for not wanting to pay the union dues, they are free to do that.   The Supreme Court made that clear here, and you evidently also are working that way at your employer.  All I'm saying is then those non-union employees should have to negotiate their own salaries and benefits, and if the union happens to negotiate a better wage for their dues-paying members, well, that's part of the reward those dues-paying members are reaping for their dues.  Why should dues-paying members fund that representation and allow those who choose to not participate in paying the dues to get the same benefit nonetheless?



945  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 3 Kidnapped Israeli teens found dead on: July 03, 2014, 03:22:16 PM
I guess compared to the terrorist muzzies killing in iraq this is mild for the religion of peace. Its actions like this that make it very hard to have any compassion for Palestinians. If this is how they work toward peace in Israel and the rest of the region is there any wonder why Israel doesn't want any part of it?  So, here's the challenge to ez, show us where Jews have kidnapped teens and murdered them for being muslim.  Show us where Jews have gone into muslim villages or shopping districts and set off suicide vests so they can kill as many innocent muslims as they can.
946  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down on: July 03, 2014, 03:00:28 PM
Read all about it in the only news coverage I could find that tells us the whole story!


I'm not sure what YOU'RE talking about but what the decision refers to is privately contracted PAs (Personal Assistants) that Medicaid pays for working poor to hire to help them out with child care. That's from the actual Supreme Court web site on the decision. Or do you think FOX News knows more than the Court about their ruling?

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/11-681_j426.pdf\

I read the FOX report. When one reads the decision and all the background, it's clear that what this family essentially did was to 'hire from within". Again, the check from Medicaid is not ostensibly for the care of the child - or in this case, an disabled adult - but rather a specific amount provided to pay for a home health care assistant. In this case, the family actually hired the mother, herself to do the job (I guess it's legal, since the state didn't tell them they couldn't do it).  Like I said, I read the actual decision, and it's very clear what it is about - hired assistants. I can't even see that as being applicable to The Harris family unless they did what I described - hired the mother. I could have missed something and I welcome someone pointing it out if I did.
Maybe she would end up with more wages -- substantially more than the $90 union dues -- if she joined the union.

She evidently doesn't have to.   And that's fine with me as long as she doesn't benefit from freeloading off the dues paying members.
 
She is certainly free to negotiate her own reimbursement, as a party of one and all the negotiating power that entails (guffaw) but she should not in any way benefit from the work done on behalf of the dues paying members by their union in negotiating better pay and benefits.
Seriously, it is obvious don't even know what you are talking about.   Why don't you actually read the back ground and understand the facts regarding this case and the law (including the ruling) before you comment.   

I read the background. I read the actual decision - have you?  You also can't even participate in this discussion without pretending that at least SOME of the background (the conservative position that NO ONE should be required to be a member of a union) doesn't exist. You want to lay down specific parameters in which this must be discussed. Well, sorry, Umair, but that doesn't hold water. The main plaintiff here happens to be a woman who was essentially paying herself as her home health care assistant for caring for her son (still not sure how that's legal, but hey - that's between her and Illinois). But the decision is way more far reaching than her particular circumstance. That silliness you spoke of, of hiring someone under the table doesn't apply here either - clearly, if someone is applying for assistance from the state to pay someone - and if the union is insisting that because they negotiated the standardized rate and conditions for it, you should pay dues - it's not under the table. 
947  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down on: July 03, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
They don't care to learn the particulars of the case because the particulars don't matter to them.  They'll side with the unions anyway, no matter the details.
So who thinks that workers should be FORCED to pay union dues? I surely do not. And the Unions themselves say they represent everyone regardless of whether the are union members or not.
if the union is responsible for getting your position the pay and benefits you will receive, why should you NOT be required to join the union there? Why should you receive the BENEFITS of union membership if you refuse to pay your dues? Isn't that freeloading off all the other employees who DO pay their dues?
948  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down on: July 03, 2014, 02:12:52 PM
You don't say...you mean like we just said?    And that has what to do with blubberings about corporate abuse and wages?   


I'm going to answer your question with another question. Trust me, the answer is in there - Do you (or most right wing conservatives) support ANY worker being mandated to join a union?

OK, go ahead - pretend that doesn't answer your question.
I'm pretending his hidden clue isn't there in his answering a question with a question, because trust him, it is.  Lol.


Predictable as the sun rise.   
And yet..... you didn't even acknowledge the answer. Predictable as the sunrise.
949  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Turns out that Hobby Lobby holds assets in emergency contraception production on: July 03, 2014, 02:12:50 PM
I actually wasted my time looking at this. I'm displeased. Can you tell me specifically on the form you provided as proof what exact companies that make drugs are part of Hobby Lobby groups direct investment?

Because the only thing I see is investment funds of various types, which is essentially the only type of investments typically allowed by government decree for this type of retirement plan vehicle.

Also, is this plan for the benefit of Hobby Lobby ownership, or employees? Because I have my doubts the owners are seeing any economic benefit from this at all.

Trying to twist something like this ranks up the extreme hypocrisy of Harry Reid saying women should be in positions of power while making sure every single senior staffer of his is male. Either he's gay, or he has no respect for women opinions, but is too cowardly to admit it.
All of your questions are literally answered in the Forbes article that I linked.
950  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Turns out that Hobby Lobby holds assets in emergency contraception production on: July 03, 2014, 02:05:03 PM
This story has a lot of legs in the news. Unfortunately, like most of the reporting on the Hobby Lobby decision, it completely misses the point.
Not when the ruling, in part, hinged on the sincerity of their religious convictions which obviously weren't strong enough to cause them to utilize religious 401k placings in order to avoid having assets tied up in companies that make the things they are supposed to be against.
951  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down on: July 03, 2014, 01:05:25 PM
You don't say...you mean like we just said?    And that has what to do with blubberings about corporate abuse and wages?   


I'm going to answer your question with another question. Trust me, the answer is in there - Do you (or most right wing conservatives) support ANY worker being mandated to join a union?

OK, go ahead - pretend that doesn't answer your question.
952  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down on: July 03, 2014, 12:56:03 PM
Well, let's assume that you're right and the Medicare check covered her 'wages' for taking care of her son. That's a round the clock, 7 days per week job. If she get's 'paid' $1210.00 a month ($90 is taken out for SEIU!), that's less than $3 per hour. Is that the SEIU union scale? If not, where's her fucking SEIU union wages? If she paid dues to SEIU (and she did!), why didn't they demand she be paid union scale?

And since when do union members also have to foot the bill for all the other patient needs, like housing, food, medicine, clothes, etc.?

The Supreme Court obviously ruled correctly. Just admit it and move on.
No, Umair, the stipend from Medicare is NOT supposed to be for 24/7 care. That's why I wonder why they're even allowing it to be paid to the mother. it's meant to provide for payment to an assistant to take a little pressure OFF the mother. What part of "Home Health Care ASSISTANT" boggles you so very much?
953  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down on: July 03, 2014, 12:34:07 PM
Read all about it in the only news coverage I could find that tells us the whole story!


I'm not sure what YOU'RE talking about but what the decision refers to is privately contracted PAs (Personal Assistants) that Medicaid pays for working poor to hire to help them out with child care. That's from the actual Supreme Court web site on the decision. Or do you think FOX News knows more than the Court about their ruling?

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/11-681_j426.pdf\

I read the FOX report. When one reads the decision and all the background, it's clear that what this family essentially did was to 'hire from within". Again, the check from Medicaid is not ostensibly for the care of the child - or in this case, an disabled adult - but rather a specific amount provided to pay for a home health care assistant. In this case, the family actually hired the mother, herself to do the job (I guess it's legal, since the state didn't tell them they couldn't do it).  Like I said, I read the actual decision, and it's very clear what it is about - hired assistants. I can't even see that as being applicable to The Harris family unless they did what I described - hired the mother. I could have missed something and I welcome someone pointing it out if I did.
954  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The OTHER SC Ruling...Union Slap Down on: July 03, 2014, 12:02:00 PM
What I say is that these workers will be singing a different tune down the road when they discover REAL thuggery in the form of corporate abuse of workers and an inability for them to get fair salaries and working conditions even though they have distinct skills. The pendulum has swung too far back. Unions were created because American industrialists treated workers like shit, and they banded together. Eventually, the Unions became the same kind of monster they started out to fight - full of corruption and greed, and there was a backlash. Now we're starting to swing back toward the conditions that existed when they got started. Unions will be back. Unions will be back. Bet on it.
955  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to Win the War on Women on: July 03, 2014, 11:51:01 AM
At the moment, the twixt/tween market seems to have Divergent (awful) competing with The Fault in Our Stars (HATE, HATE, HATED it which is probably no surprise to you).  I'm in a book club (normally great selections) who picked the latter for last month's book and I wanted to poke both my eyes out before, during, and after. 
956  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to Win the War on Women on: July 03, 2014, 11:28:25 AM
Make sure your daughters have a great dad....every girl deserves to have one.   

This video is adorable, hilarious, and precious.  I'm not one to watch vids very often, but this one is a classic.  This guy could be my hub's clone from the outside to the inside...same exact sense of  humor in this same kind of scenario.  In fact, my daughter sent it to me with the caption "This is us 20 years ago!"   Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLozgvYvLs
I have a vid of Anna's(my baby girl) last bday party in which a gaggle of girls sit around the kitchen table dramatically rocking out full blast to Let it Go while Seth patiently slugs away at a frozen ice cream cake that still cracks me up.
Hahaha!  You got love men who have only daughters and patiently endure not just their highs and lows, but all their friends too.   You're very fortunate to have escaped the Twilight series years.  Lol.
Every  girl (and boy) should have a dad like that.  If they did, I'm convinced we wouldn't have so many self medicated single mothers and boys living in their mama's basement.  
957  Other / Off-topic / Re: How do you feel about fluoride? on: July 03, 2014, 11:02:05 AM
My understanding is that fluoride is deposited by the body into the bones, teeth, cartilage and joints as a way to shunt the deathly toxin away from the rest of the body.
In other words, once it goes in, it never comes out. Furthermore, the fluosilicic acid industrial waste being added my most water utilities includes other deadly toxins such as lead an arsenic, which are not present in naturally occurring fluoride.
That’s what’s so terrible about being forced to ingest it.
958  Other / Politics & Society / Turns out that Hobby Lobby holds assets in emergency contraception production on: July 02, 2014, 06:02:01 PM
The story is a bit old, but I haven't been following it very closely:

Mother Jones has discovered that Hobby Lobby which is seeking exemption from certain aspects of the Affordable Care Act on religious grounds surrounding contraception benefit requirements (a case it has won), actually invests (through their retirement fund) in companies that produces emergency contraceptives and abortion related products.

According to Mother Jones:
Quote
Documents filed with the Department of Labor and dated December 2012 (see above)—three months after the company’s owners filed their lawsuit—show that the Hobby Lobby 401(k) employee retirement plan held more than $73 million in mutual funds with investments in companies that produce emergency contraceptive pills, intrauterine devices, and drugs commonly used in abortions. Hobby Lobby makes large matching contributions to this company-sponsored 401(k).

These companies make up 3/4ths of Hobby Lobby's 401k assets.
Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...ous-objection/
959  Other / Off-topic / How to Win the War on Women on: July 02, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
Make sure your daughters have a great dad....every girl deserves to have one.   

This video is adorable, hilarious, and precious.  I'm not one to watch vids very often, but this one is a classic.  This guy could be my hub's clone from the outside to the inside...same exact sense of  humor in this same kind of scenario.  In fact, my daughter sent it to me with the caption "This is us 20 years ago!"   Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLozgvYvLs
960  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the US press really that free? on: July 02, 2014, 04:49:27 PM
The freedom of speech and expression is inclusive of the right to keep silent. In this case, Mr. Risen is protecting a right that is undervalued or utterly ignored in so many countries.

Is it more important to protect press and speech freedom so the public can obtain any information it needs, or is it more important to "secure" an evidence? When a country no longer has a free press, that country is under the threat of extensive corruption.

Mr. Risen is a perfect role model for all of us who have gone through many years of journalism education. Selling a source is a clear indicator of poor journalism.
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