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This could turn out to be ok as long as segwit2x manages to not crash during activation period which would be a massive disaster. Once segwit locks in and we avoid BIP148, then miners can go back to running core software and we will be safe until November when delusional hardforkers pretend to fork bitcoin again.
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Roger Ver/Jihad/Craig Wright sockpuppets. Reddit is a shithole period. There will be no hardfork because all hardfork proposals are trash. Going into the forked chain will result in loss of purchasing power as the forked token crashes into the ground. Do not support any hardforked token unless you want to lose money. In other words, you have nothing to add to this discussion. Bye brainwashed Core worshiper. Can't wait until you fools will be worshiping an altcoin or be out of bitcoins way entirely. It's ok Roger, now ABC can soon join the club of defeated hardfork attempts along with XT, Classic, Unlimited and so on. It's pretty funny how they keep trying to come up with all these scams and they all end up on the dumpster. |
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Roger Ver/Jihad/Craig Wright sockpuppets. Reddit is a shithole period. There will be no hardfork because all hardfork proposals are trash. Going into the forked chain will result in loss of purchasing power as the forked token crashes into the ground. Do not support any hardforked token unless you want to lose money. |
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What does UBIQ bring to the table that no other altcoin already brings? Ethereum Classic does what UBIQ does, so why would anyone want to buy this one? I am looking forward to someone explaining the value proposition of this project. |
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Hi,
When do we know bitcoin will be safe for segwit?
So it wont split...
Is it on the 1st of august?
Or can you see it before on 24 july?
Bitcoin is under constant attack and if it's not this time, then it will be another time. They will always come up with excuses to hardfork and ruin the marketcap, and introduce inflation by means of hardforks (multiplying the total supply x2 each hardfork) We need to live with the constant risk of the hardfork. The Jarzikcoin hardfork is supposed to happen somewhere in october-november. |
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Buy POSW aka Poswallet. It's on the floor, can't get lower, good updates coming. It will eventually get its good huge pump to a new ATH, just like all these other coins that randomly get pumped. Can't go wrong with holding some POSW.
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Not really, but it's enough. You are going to need a wallet with "coin control" advanced feature where you can control the inputs and outputs individually to send things the right way. Bitcoin Core offers this, not sure what other wallets offer this feature. Without this feature it's pretty much useless if you want any financial privacy.
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It doesn't when the hardfork is. The segwit2x could be 10 years from now, doesn't change the fact that segwit2x is shit and Jeff Garzik is working in anti-privacy tools, which means his agenda goes against a privacy-friendly bitcoin. No one on segwit2x team has demonstrated to be worth shit, they are just copy-pasting Core's code. Also, 6 month is NOTHING for a hardfork rushed with shitty code.
you cant read code. or you would know 6 months is a magical number you plucked out of your head from nowhere please stop readding reddit.. its not good for your mental health We broke major resistances and you are in denial about this. The price is crashing badly because of the hardfork fears, not because fucking segwit you dumb autist/sockpuppet. If we got BIP141 activated the price would sky rocket because of no more BIP148/segwit2x JarzikCoin nonsense. Im tired of arguing with idiots for today. Enjoy the price crash you faggots. |
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UASF is irrelevant, it has no hashrate support to split anything, and ultimately it wouldn't result in 2 permanent chains, it would resolve itself.
relevant or not, it is happening. and it is risky and the risk of split or what uninformed people call hard fork (because they think hard fork = split) comes from BIP148 and the fact that it has so little support. It's the segwit2x idiots that are ruining the price with an actual hardfork into shitty software.
this is irrelevant because BIP148 is in about 0.5 month or so but the hard fork you are talking about (Segwit2x) is not for another 6 months. and that has little support. and people are not known to fear something that is in a very far future. If we activated segwit with BIP141, there would be no drama anymore, so ultimately UASF and segwit2x wouldn't exist if miners got their shit together and activated BIP141.
this is off topic! It doesn't when the hardfork is. The segwit2x could be 10 years from now, doesn't change the fact that segwit2x is shit and Jeff Garzik is working in anti-privacy tools, which means his agenda goes against a privacy-friendly bitcoin. No one on segwit2x team has demonstrated to be worth shit, they are just copy-pasting Core's code. Also, 6 month is NOTHING for a hardfork rushed with shitty code. |
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We have broken major resistance points,
you wouldnt understand a resistance point even if one was to hit you like a wall funny that the timing of the drop has nothing to do with anything 2x related. the only drama for the next 3 months+ is segwit. its all just pointing fingers away from bscartel by pretending certain people are not bscartel even when they are, purely to create social distractions to make people not look at the real stuff behind the scenes try to do some learning and research away from reddit. you might actually learn something rather than repeating something. this is not school. repeating what your told to repeat and learning the truth are 2 different things People don't give a fuck about segwit, the price crash is because of the risk of 2 bitcoins being created which would dilute the total marketcap in 2 stupid tokens you dummy, you can't do fundamental analysis or technical analysis to save your life. People see the risk in the hardfork, nobody gives a shit about a segwit softwork, thats why BIP141 would have been either nothing or a pump, but not a dump. The dump is due the hardfork risk, get real. you do realize that the risk of splitting bitcoin into 2 different coins is coming from BIP148 also known as UASF on August 1st not BIP141, not SegWit2x (what Jef Garzik is working on) not anything else.... at least that is the current threat to bitcoin. UASF is irrelevant, it has no hashrate support to split anything, and ultimately it wouldn't result in 2 permanent chains, it would resolve itself. It's the segwit2x idiots that are ruining the price with an actual hardfork into shitty software. If we activated segwit with BIP141, there would be no drama anymore, so ultimately UASF and segwit2x wouldn't exist if miners got their shit together and activated BIP141. |
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We have broken major resistance points,
you wouldnt understand a resistance point even if one was to hit you like a wall funny that the timing of the drop has nothing to do with anything 2x related. the only drama for the next 3 months+ is segwit. its all just pointing fingers away from bscartel by pretending certain people are not bscartel even when they are, purely to create social distractions to make people not look at the real stuff behind the scenes try to do some learning and research away from reddit. you might actually learn something rather than repeating something. this is not school. repeating what your told to repeat and learning the truth are 2 different things People don't give a fuck about segwit, the price crash is because of the risk of 2 bitcoins being created which would dilute the total marketcap in 2 stupid tokens you dummy, you can't do fundamental analysis or technical analysis to save your life. People see the risk in the hardfork, nobody gives a shit about a segwit softwork, thats why BIP141 would have been either nothing or a pump, but not a dump. The dump is due the hardfork risk, get real. |
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wow
pereira4
when price goes up, silence.. when price goes down blame someone thats not blockstream...
how about instead of crying and trying to blame someone when the price drops.. start getting excited and start shouting "discount day"
i really do love seeing everyone get so dramatic over small temporary and meaningless price movements
We have broken major resistance points, we are going deeper into the red, all thanks to the hardfork camp, because guess what, 2 fucking bitcoins create massive uncertainty and makes bitcoin look like a stupid joke. The market has realized segwit2x is a scam and JerzikCoin is coming backed up by supposedly 80% of hashrate, in other words, a shitstorm is brewing. The only hope for a price recovery now is if miners are smart enough to back out from the hardfork as soon as segwit is activated, ignoring the suicidal segwit2x software, hardfork and everything that could lead to 2 bitcoins.
Good job crashing the price below $2000 Jeff. I can't wait to find out what that "next step must be". Right now it looks like breaking the $1000 floor must be next step.
Oh God, bloody socialist, always blaming other people, especially without evidence. It's you the one that wants to "spread the wealth" by turning 21 million bitcoins into 42 million bitcoins with a stupid ass fork. |
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  Good job crashing the price below $2000 Jeff. I can't wait to find out what that "next step must be". Right now it looks like breaking the $1000 floor must be next step. |
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Bitcoin anonymity is the BIGGEST shit crypto currency has ever faced. It achieved nothing but allowed bunch of scammers, ponzi pumpers and pyramids lovers to find an excellent tool to scam people.
If I have nothing to hide concerning the source of my money, why the fuck anonymity??? Not to pay taxes you say? Well, you do want your kids to go school or your local hospital to work, ha?
Fuck this shit, anonymity s good only for people who ve got something to hide.
Are you fucking kidding me? The whitepaper says "p2p cash". Cash includes anonymity. Don't give me the crime propaganda bullshit. If you don't want anonymity, then why the fuck are you even here? go use Ripple and stop caring about decentralization. These guys want to put bitcoin inside corporate buildings via massive blocksize agendas. They want their own bitcoin that they can control. The value propositon of such a bitcoin is exactly 0, which is what the value of segwit2xCoin will be. |
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stop fudding, this has nothing to do with KYC.
Anyway i wont be running or using SW in any way shape or form.
You mean that you won't be disposing of your SW coins that you get off the fork so that you can accumulate non SW coins? I admire your principles.  I will be immediately liquidating some of them yes, and continue to liquidate as the market asserts itself based on the fact that users want low fees and fast confirmations, and a Bitcoin that can scale. You fill find soon enough that the market doesn't want a blocksize increase. Maybe in the future, but not now, because we don't need it. A hardfork needs way more research and dedication than this rushed up garbage. https://bitcoinhardforkresearch.github.io/If a hardfork happens and you are going to take that risk, it must have something of real value, not a dumb ass blocksize increase. |
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The btc1 dns seed change can tell you a lot. Move away from devs seed (have ackd privacy/neutrality policy) to companies who seek control.  https://twitter.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/885884662010322944They are trying to sneak in this shit in various ways. It shows the aim they want to take with Bitcoin, all of course, lead by butthurt Jeff Garzik known for his efforts in blockchain analysis: https://angel.co/skry Be aware of the fact that everyone involved in the hardfork is a direct enemy of bitcoin, and you supporting it makes you an enemy of bitcoin. Watch sockpuppets try to defend this in various ridiculous ways as the price crashes. |
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I think there are two possible outcomes for this fight -
1. Mayweather wins on points
Never.Not even remotely.That midget fuck lacking abilities to read and only good for dancing like a barbie around the ring can never ever win on points when facing the God. 2. McGregor knocks Floyd out within 4 rounds
4 rounds ? He beat Hose Aldo in less than 2 minutes lol who tf is Gayweather ? Only way midget dude wins the fight is if they pay Gregor to lose which isn't the case. De La Hoya is 5'10'' and Floyd Mayweather gave him a boxing lesson and De La Hoya was a top ranked boxer. Conor is 5'9'' and doesn't know how to box and has only fought bums that can't do any striking. |
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Daniel Cormier looks like he has white eyes like a Mortal Kombat character like Subzero lol.
The buildup is great, I want to see the press conference and see them go at it, but right now the Mayweather and McGregor press conferences are being one of the most entertaining I have seen. Conor rocked Mayweather on stage yesterday, but Mayweather also got some good ones.
I honestly find Mayweather lacking with the trash talking. He doesn't know how, and that's weird considering that black people are really good at it. He's behind McGregor in promoting this fight by a mile. Jones seems to be in denial about having a substance abuse issue. More than 5 years of DUI's, car wrecks and positive cocaine tests & he still doesn't appear to recognize there's a problem there. He could be an addict.
Does anyone laugh about this card having 3 title fights on it because everyone is afraid Jon Jones will make a bad decision and not be able to fight? That's hilarious to me.
Good point! Is there a prop bet for the Jones pulling out again.  Mayweather made Conor look back yesterday in the New York City conference. Conor is overplaying his character and looked out of character. Mayweather clowned him calling him Dana White's bitch and throwing him 1 dollar bills like a cheap stripper. |
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Big blocks aren't a problem? But if there's big blocks that means everyone will be free to
conduct transactions on-chain. And if that happens, how will Blockstream make money from its patented sidechains?
If the blocks become huge and only corporations are able to run the mods which be easily bribed, and these corporations get thrown billions to compromise the bitcoin code by adding privacy unfriendly trash as the shit we've seen before in XT or the blockchain analysis stuff Jarzik is working on and they add it at protocol level, and since the blocks are too big you can't run a full node yourself with your own validating rules, what are you going to do? You don't know what the rule of full validating nodes is or the game theory surrounding it. Go back to school. |
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Ok. I want to ask a stupid question here.
What is the problem with big blocks exactly. In terms of space on harddrives I don't see it. A 4 TB HDD is like 70 dollars on sale.
I did some quick math.
Assuming a block created every 10 minutes and is the max size(which is extremely unlikely but lets go with that) 1MB or 2MB or 3MB or 4 MB or 10 MB.
10 years from now here is how much more GB is added to the total size of the blockchain
1mb blocks - 525.6 GB
2mb blocks - 1,051.2GB
3mb blocks - 1,576.8GB
4mb blocks - 2,102.4GB
10mb blocks - 5,256GB
Even with 10 MB blocks starting now and goign to 10 years out there WILL NOT BE A STORAGE ISSUE for the average person. Not at all! The average person can afford to buy a 6 TB or a little higher HDD for like 150 bucks or something, and by the time we are 10 years out a 30 TB drive will be like 100 bucks or cheaper.
Cost of internet? On average most internet companies per month charge like 60 to 100 a month and you get between 250 GB to 1,000 GB a month downloaded before they charge you an extra 10 bucks for another 100 GB.
So even under the 10MB block size on a monthly basis you are only downloading on your node 40 GB per 4 week period.
How about speed of that internet? Of course it can handle it... 10MB = 80 mb(mega bits) and in terms of speed, so to download 10MB on an average of every 10 minutes your internet speed needs to be at the minimum be able to handle 133 kbps, yes, kilobits per second, so convert to KiloBytes per second by dividing by 8 and you get 16.5 KBPS, DIAL UP IS 56 KBPS. Helllloooooooo!!!!!
If you have 80mbps download you can do 600 10MB blocks in 10 minutes.
I honestly have no idea why anyone thinks big blocks are a problem, maybe if we got to 100 MB blocks and it happened in a few years, but that means almost everyone in the world would be using BTC to make 100MBblocks full every 10 minutes every day every week every year...
So what is the issue? Please lay it out for me, I have been away for awhile. Am I missing something? Maybe poorer people cant afford to host a node is the issue? But are they hosting it now anyways, probably not...
It is not a stupid question. Don't worry many of us have worked this out, similar to yours above and equally don't see the fuss. There is an irrational fear that the number of full nodes will shrink due to the costs above and Bitcoin will be centralised. I can download a 200mb mp4 file in 1 minute 30 seconds. 10mb in 20 second. (both averages) Internet is £30 per month and already paid for due to other uses. Running a full node does not add any extra cost at all. Ok. I want to ask a stupid question here.
What is the problem with big blocks exactly. In terms of space on harddrives I don't see it. A 4 TB HDD is like 70 dollars on sale.
I did some quick math.
Assuming a block created every 10 minutes and is the max size, 1mb or 2mb or 3 mb or 4 mb.
10 years from now here is how much more GB is added to the total size of the blockchain
1mb blocks - 525.6 GB
2mb blocks - 1,051.2GB
3mb blocks - 1,576.8GB
4mb blocks - 2,102.4GB
10mb blocks - 5,256GB
Even with 10 mb blocks starting now and goign to 10 years out there WILL NOT BE A STORAGE ISSUE for the average person. Not at all! The average person can afford to buy a 6 TB or a little higher HDD for like 150 bucks or something, and by the time we are 10 years out a 30 TB drive will be like 100 bucks or cheaper.
Cost of internet? On average most internet companies per month charge like 60 to 100 a month and you get between 250 GB to 1,000 GB a month downloaded before they charge you an extra 10 bcks for another 100 GB.
So even under the 10MB block size on a monthly basis you are only downloading on your node 40 GB per 4 week period.
How about speed of that internet? Of course it can handle it... 10MB = 80 mbp and in terms of speed, so to download 10MB on an average of every 10 minutes your internet speed needs to be at the minimum be able to handle 133 kbps, yes, kilobits per second, so convert to KiloBytes per second by dividing by 8 and you get 16.5 KBPS, DIAL UP IS 56 KBPS. Helllloooooooo!!!!!
If you have 80mbps download you can do 600 10MB blocks in 10 minutes.
I honestly have no idea why anyone thinks big blocks are a problem, maybe if we got to 100 MB blocks and it happened in a few years, but that won't happen!
It is not a stupid question. Don't worry many of us have worked this out, similar to yours above and equally don't see the fuss. There is an irrational fear that the number of full nodes will shrink due to the costs above and Bitcoin will be centralised. I can download a 200mb mp4 file in 1 minute 30 seconds. 10mb in 20 second. (both averages) Internet is £30 per month and already paid for due to other uses. Running a full node does not add any extra cost at all. Nice copy-pasted answer. At least big blocktard sockpuppets should put some more effort into varying their answers. Anyway, we don't need big blocks because the mempool is not full, except when it gets attacked by Roger Ver and other rich attackers:  The Bitmain-Ver PBOC sponsored attack on Bitcoin is increasingly obvious as the spam attacks become increasingly less organic and happening right in key moments where hardfork FUD is being spread. Segwit2x will soon join XT, Classic, and Unlimited into the also ever increasing list of Failed Bitcoin Takeover attempts. Sorry, no hard forks for you. It's objectively stupid to risk a hardfork that only contains a 2MB increase when we don't need to. If we are hardforking you should look into other interesting technology and not the dumb blocksize increase only: https://bitcoinhardforkresearch.github.io/We also do NOT want to hardfork with unsafe code, developed in an unsafe amount of time, risking a 40 billion market in the process. We do not need bigger blocks now, it's objectively a mistake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2941&v=iFJ2MZ3KciQOh I agree hardforks cause chaos and are risky. My point was more I dont see how segwit makes sense to do. Offchain stuff is more centralized and vunerable vs onchain. I am aware of the above also, the graph and spam attacks. Though censorship is not ideal, why not include in the code to disable sending of 1 satoshi transactions. Maybe in 20 years if there is a need to send a 1 sat transaction it can be solved a different way. Btc would need to be worth a lot for 1 sat transaction to be important in any way. I think people will just use ETH for stuff like that. I dont want segwit. I think the fear of hardforks to increase blocksize correct. But only if the code is a secret. If the code is open to all for months i dont see why raising it would be a problem in the future. Yes mempool isnt full any more I am also aware of that. Just the things people said about blocksize being too big arent justified. Having a 20MB block right now still wont see it filled. And people could still run their nodes and what not. Blocking 1 satoshi transactions could work, but they would just raise it to 2, then to 3... when does it become economically unviable to stop spam without having an impact on how bitcoin works? When second layer solutions are working, we will be able to get microtransactions, so im not sure how that would work out. In any case... hardforking now is a mistake, everyone knows this. Segwit has been insanely tested and it's not a hardfork so its not the end of the world. The priority now is to avoid BitmainCoin fork. |
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