Yup, just think about this:
A lot of people, that mostly doesn't understand cryptocurrencies, are going to get some XXX coins (Stellars)
They have probably heard that "someone" has become rich with this kind of shit (Bitcoin)
They will find they their Stellars value is no more than $10 o likely.
How many of them will want to sell their Stellars just to get only $10!?
My guess is that they will start to hoard them ...
correct, or even they will buy more, if 100,000 facebook users buy 20 usd worth.. thats like 2000 btcs. or they can buy btc, wait 6 months, and claim 2000 BTC worth of Stellar for FREE and keep all their BTC.  20% of the total Stellar has been put aside to be given away to btc holders that claim it, based on a snapshot of the blockchain at an unspecified point in time and their proof of address ownership If you want some better start using a wallet and not keep all your coins on an exchange (Stellar has no way to determine if the address owners are individuals or exchanges) Bitcoin program
20% of the initial stellars are set aside to be distributed to holders of bitcoin and XRP (19% for bitcoin holders and 1% for XRP holders).
We will take a snapshot of the bitcoin blockchain at a particular date and will set up a claim page that will allow bitcoin holders to receive their pro-rata share of the stellars reserved under this program by verifying they control their address from that blockchain snapshot. For example, a user owning .001% of the bitcoins in the blockchain snapshot would receive .001% of the stellars set aside for bitcoin holders under this program, or 190,000 stellars.
For bitcoin holders, distribution will begin within 6 months after Stellar is open to the public. The Foundation will maintain this claim site for at least 3 months. they should explain this better....I don't get it (ok, i must say I just woke up lol) |
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I recieved 500.....could first post be updated?
update: you get a max of 900 coins, after you veryfied your email This gets lowered every day to giveaway a constant value (according to them!) I understand....I haven't read all infos yet |
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I recieved 500.....could first post be updated?
update: you get a max of 900 coins, after you veryfied your email |
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I recieved 500.....could first post be updated?
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Yonce's attitude was that ponzis are fine, assuming that his downlines are only other people who know it's a ponzi.
I know anacaps who think like this.....if you take anarcocapitalism word by word than ponzis are just "voluntary interchange " |
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any more expiriences on that one?
Some experience with lending BTC: you don't really get paid for the first day, if you deposit you get your first payment ~48 hours after and then every 24hours. Also the interest is very low (but still higher than bitfinex!). Withdrawing from the lending system is instantly, but again you forfeit 1 day of interest. I like the bitfinex way much more. What is the current interest rate for BTC and LTC? Thanks 0,1% for borrowing.....for lending I coudn't find the rate on site, just a Chinese text it was about 0.018%. The way it works is: They pool the deposits that are meant for lending. The borrowers pay the 0.1% and then those 0.1% are split to all borrowers. In this case only about 20% of all funds are used for trading. they should have an english text expaining this....the whole page seams to be beta to me yeah, it looks like they used google translate... Also the chinese are a wierd folk: They don't use our common digit notation, but use "w" aka 10000. So their rate is notated in 1.8 BTC/w pr 1.8BTC/10000 BTC. Well, you get used to if you need to what I mean is that in YubiBiBao, I see Deposit your sleeping coins. Earn daily profit. Withdrawal is unconstrained. Details and when I click "details" there is only a chniese text |
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any more expiriences on that one?
Some experience with lending BTC: you don't really get paid for the first day, if you deposit you get your first payment ~48 hours after and then every 24hours. Also the interest is very low (but still higher than bitfinex!). Withdrawing from the lending system is instantly, but again you forfeit 1 day of interest. I like the bitfinex way much more. What is the current interest rate for BTC and LTC? Thanks 0,1% for borrowing.....for lending I coudn't find the rate on site, just a Chinese text it was about 0.018%. The way it works is: They pool the deposits that are meant for lending. The borrowers pay the 0.1% and then those 0.1% are split to all borrowers. In this case only about 20% of all funds are used for trading. they should have an english text expaining this....the whole page seams to be beta to me |
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any more expiriences on that one?
Some experience with lending BTC: you don't really get paid for the first day, if you deposit you get your first payment ~48 hours after and then every 24hours. Also the interest is very low (but still higher than bitfinex!). Withdrawing from the lending system is instantly, but again you forfeit 1 day of interest. I like the bitfinex way much more. What is the current interest rate for BTC and LTC? Thanks 0,1% for borrowing.....for lending I coudn't find the rate on site, just a Chinese text |
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You do understand these guys are online over 9 months. Add 1 more year to this time and they would be 21 months online. Since full ROI is under 4 months, including reinvesting, this would mean people would reach ROI 5 times during this period. You really think something which is not legit can survive to pay out 500% return on investment to 2000 of its members just from ponzi earnings?  IMO, this just does not add up. Talking about things not adding up, they could have avoided all the hassle of dealing with investors, receipts and payments and all these awkward questions very easily. Just stayed private. If they had started with just $10k of their own money and traded and reinvested at 2% per day, then after 21 months they would have over FORTY MILLION DOLLARS. All for themselves. Why do they need investors at all? because it's a Ponzi?  |
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até já tinha esquecido essa coin. sera que vai sair? kkkk
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EMA cross EA thanks, I know what should I do now all you need is a working algorithm......the EA for it you generaly find for free I am a student of financial college who know nothing about algorithms and code, how could I do? nothing......if an algorythm is good, the person doesn't share it.......any shared algorythm is not good......a good algorythm that is sold, won't work long. the more people use it, the less will it work BS. there is not one algorythm. its a bunch of them and then someone interpreting. the software of goldman sachs is worth billions, and in combination with good traders they make money. pretty bots at godmode-trader.de read again what i wrote. does GS share it's algo? |
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"housemarket is not a ponzi, its inflation driven"
Interesting way of putting it. Would that mean that from 2008 to 2009 US had negative inflation in the order of 60%?
Negative inflation would be "deflation." Deflation, like in deflationary. That's good, right? It really depends on what economist you talk to whether inflation or deflation are a "good" thing. There's actually a good bit of evidence showing that very minimal inflation is good (>=~1%). It gets people to buy things rather than continually waiting for prices to go down. In this forum, this opinion, shared by about 95% of economists...will cause you a lot of agressive replys. Btw: what is good or not for a specific economie depends realy on many other factors. Economies try to not find out how deflation would affect their specific situation... because when a deflation is negative it turns desasterous.....inflation is just better to control |
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EMA cross EA thanks, I know what should I do now all you need is a working algorithm......the EA for it you generaly find for free I am a student of financial college who know nothing about algorithms and code, how could I do? nothing......if an algorythm is good, the person doesn't share it.......any shared algorythm is not good......a good algorythm that is sold, won't work long. the more people use it, the less will it work |
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transactions are gone in the wallet . there are no incomming transactions
@ capoeira , just start your wallet with -salvagewallet command let us know if it solves your problem It did indeed solve the problem. Thank you very much |
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I see there are a lot of first time traders trading Bitcoin via the hack exchanges of MtGox and Tradehill. It makes me wonder, why don't you guys just trade real forex? You can open micro accounts with as little as $25. You get security far better than these shady exchanges. You get real customer service with a real business that won't disappear and leave you only an email address to cry to. You get real trading platforms with reliable data, not some ghetto hack stuff. You get plenty of liquidity, which allows of smooth trading. And, best of all, you don't have to worry whether it's legal or not! Trading is hard enough as it is, why anyone would want all these additional factors working against them is beyond me.
So, to all the bitcoin traders out there... what are your reasons for trading these shady, unsafe bitcoin markets over regular FX?
You are aware that Forex is a Zero Sum Game = 98% forex traders lose? No, I didn't think so. So is Bitcoin... in fact, anything where someone's loss is someone else's gain is a zero sum game doesn't mean you can't pull in huge returns from Forex if you know what you're doing. What I will say though is, in Forex, the odds are stacked against you - what with all the institutional players and professional day traders who have been scalping that market for decades.. It's much easier to pull massive home runs from crypto i agree, especialy with the first sentence, and would add to the rest: they biggest sharks are still not in the Bitcoinlake, which makes it easier for smaller ones and those who want to be one, including Mr. Zer0Sum And the bitcoinlake is growing. Soon it will be filled with sharks and all the small fish get eaten up. well how many people bought on top of the bubbles? there are always fishes beeing eaten. But the biggest sharks will come after this market has some rules |
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The bet that this thing will implode in the next 120 days is risky. Plenty of Ponzis, including some BTC-related, have lasted for longer than BT's current age. I can see it going for another 4 months and even longer depending on how many suckers are still out there.
It will go boom, eventually, but I think 1 year is a safer bet.
yep. remember Madoff? the problem is that people don't withdraw their "virtual gains". they even lie to themselfs. my brother once showed my an "incredibe deal". I saw it was a piramid sceme in 5minutes. I explained him how it works; he didn't believe much and said: "even if this is a scam. I allready gained all of my initial investment".....I responded: "Is it on you bank?"...."Yes", he said. After the sceme colapsed I found out he hadn't withdrawn nothing at all. People see those "virtual gains" and brain stops to work. |
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because the swing on forex a re less substantial, bitcoin is more volatile this is good for traders
should read the answers before responding. |
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why are you ignoring my problem @FreeTrade?
I don't understand what the problem is. transactions are gone in the wallet . there are no incomming transactions Also can you stop reposting large images please.
no problem |
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EMA cross EA thanks, I know what should I do now all you need is a working algorithm......the EA for it you generaly find for free |
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