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981  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 16, 2013, 01:53:10 PM
d'oh, I hadn't reset it yet and someone started.... and I got the 1/100 chance of the share..    still putting together a p2pool-node list =/

oh, it's set to wrong name, anyway... have to use payout address  Undecided

ok, i think the whole interrupt thing should be fixed now, and it's set back to 0%

ed:  haha, figures that hetzner's network starts messing up right after i fix that.  it's definitely reissuing the work faster now though, so no 1-2 second delay there if it goes 90 seconds w/o anything.  at least when hetzner isn't getting 20% ploss and 400ms ping times

982  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 16, 2013, 10:29:47 AM
@zvs: When I'm mining on your node, and it goes down, my cgminer client totally locks up and stops working. Other nodes, however, don't have that problem and cgminer properly switches to failover nodes. Has anyone else seen this on your node? I don't remember the error it gave; I stopped mining on it after it happened a few times (3 times last week).
I thought about it some more...  since this behavior should be common to all p2pools (stratum "interrupted" after a 90s period of no block/new work), mine shouldn't cause a disconnect/lockup/whatever any more (or less) frequently than any others.

Maybe latency has something to do with it?  A really small window for stratum to reconnect?   Huh   If you're in the US, 198.12.127.2 should have low latency...  I'll drop the fee on it to 0%, anyway (ed: in about 10-15 minutes, have to check log and redo --p2pool-node's and such)... if ANYONE wants to mess with it.  

I assume that port 9332 works, though it does seem a bit odd that not one person has mined on there in 2-3 weeks though

ok, done.  i changed something in the code that might or might not do something as well

198.12.127.2:9332, has 0% fee now

ed: i just tested it myself.  had the 90s delay, didn't get an interrupted on my vid card, so i think i fixed it.  i'll reset 5.9.24.81 in a bit and put it back to 0% for a while
983  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Avalon Mini 60GH/s Miner for sale on: November 16, 2013, 10:17:59 AM
Not taking it..then play with it..then pay for it later.

Generally the way these things work is that the person on the receiving end opens the packaging, examines the merchandise, makes sure the merchandise is in proper condition & behaves as expected, then pays.  This is also what would happen w/ any form of escrow (except in that case, the person that received the escrow funds would then release them, rather than the original buyer).

'Playing' with it happens later, if at all.

For someone that has so much eBay feedback, I'm surprised such a basic concept could fly right over your head like that.

If you find someone that's willing to pay you first, then good luck on not getting a chargeback later on.
984  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Jupiter 485 GHash on: November 16, 2013, 10:08:29 AM
retracted.   amt i offered was way too high.
985  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: RED FURY is back! .32BTC - 2.6Gh/s USB - IN HAND, Ships to you today on: November 16, 2013, 09:54:55 AM
received my 2 units today, just in time for some wkend mining. thanks oaxaca!

I know your super busy with PMs oaxaca, but let me know about the refund to the lower price. thx
do they come in fancy packaging?  or is it such that it'd be impossible to tell if someone had actually opened a unit up and used it?

these will make about .02 bitcoins next difficulty level, which starts in about 36hrs.  deduct 20-30% from that for each 11 days following
986  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [IN STOCK] ASICMiner Cubes. 30-39gh/s - USA - 1.75 BTC - Price protection! on: November 16, 2013, 09:50:40 AM
30-39 is a pretty wide range.  How many watts does it take to power each cube (did I miss it listed somewhere?)?

i'll pay $800-$1400 for 4, depending on elec usage & whether I'd get 30ghash or 39ghash cubes
987  Economy / Auctions / Re: Auction 2 Hosted KNC Jupiters on: November 16, 2013, 09:44:54 AM
Not like they'd even know what values to put in there...

One example being how the difficulty level changes in about 36 hours & not compensating for that by changing starting diff  (it'll be at 600m before this ends)

seems llike 80-90% of the people that "win" these asics have forum accounts that were created in 2013.   

though in nearly all of these cases.. by winning, you're losing.  fancy
988  Economy / Auctions / Re: New BFL-based Chili miners (30GH/s nominal) on: November 16, 2013, 09:36:40 AM
For clearance: There comes without the asics?

that's what they are, yes. 

is "bobsag" a shill bidder?  that can't be for real, right?

i'll offer the lowest of USD $400 or 1 bitcoin for two of them, based on the price of BTC when auction ends on Monday
989  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTC Guild cheating / being cheated? on: November 16, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
Here's a strange coincidence - just when transaction revenue was all time high (source: http://imgur.com/fVnj0PV,yklZue7) the BTC guild pool luck was all time low (source: http://imgur.com/fVnj0PV,yklZue7#1)

This accounted for hundreds of BTC lost revenue for the miners.

Coincidence? What do you think?

Its all about luck. BTC guild pool network hashrate % is shrinking... last I check is about 30%...

yeah, it's been around 30% for a month or two now
990  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 15, 2013, 10:44:06 PM

tip #7: compile bitcoind with outgoing connections of 1, run bitcoind with listen=1, maxconnections=2, with one node on connect... well, that's what I do, since I can monitor it constantly.. you'd probably want to change maxconnections to 3 or 4, in case one of the nodes craps out, be it due to the Interpol, cult of the dead cow, or whatever else.  an example conf file,


While a low number of connections may save bandwidth, wouldn't it possibly have the side-effect of making the Bitcoin network less resilient?

I guess I will see how much bandwidth is used when I finally get my node up.

yeah, but if you are trying to run a node locally and are bandwidth starved, that's something you should do.  

otherwise you'll either randomly connect to an outgoing peer that is missing part of the block chain or have one connect to you.  then your upstream is saturated

i think it's not so bad in other parts of the world, but in the US, you really get gimped on upstream

Not all of us... I've got 75down/35up rated (typically 86down/39up actual).  FiOS kicks a$$.

Running a local node at galactica.geekgalaxy.com:9332  
Any tips? Wink


no, i like your outgoing connections =p
991  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 15, 2013, 10:21:13 PM
@zvs: When I'm mining on your node, and it goes down, my cgminer client totally locks up and stops working. Other nodes, however, don't have that problem and cgminer properly switches to failover nodes. Has anyone else seen this on your node? I don't remember the error it gave; I stopped mining on it after it happened a few times (3 times last week).

I think this is caused by the stratum interrupts when the p2pool doesn't find a new share for 90 seconds?

It says something about it when I have my video card pointed there too, stops for about 1/2 a second also, but i'm using some .. 6 month old version of cgminer

maybe it works properly now, i dunno

but that's when it happens.  when there is no new block or no new share for 90 seconds

ed: it should be common to any p2pool?  my video card starts back up right away on cgminer 3.3.4, it just says stratum connection was interrupted and then restarts
992  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Avalon 4 module bitcoin ASIC for sale @ auction - no reserve on: November 15, 2013, 04:34:59 PM
You expect the bids on there right now to be reputable accounts?  eBay doesn't allow you to stop people with 0 feedbacks from bidding anymore
993  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 290x for $420 on: November 15, 2013, 03:47:49 PM
just saw this on slickdeals:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127663

it's no R290X for $150 less than it should be, but still a really nice deal if you're the type that isn't too lazy to do rebates
994  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [40 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 15, 2013, 03:36:33 PM

tip #7: compile bitcoind with outgoing connections of 1, run bitcoind with listen=1, maxconnections=2, with one node on connect... well, that's what I do, since I can monitor it constantly.. you'd probably want to change maxconnections to 3 or 4, in case one of the nodes craps out, be it due to the Interpol, cult of the dead cow, or whatever else.  an example conf file,


While a low number of connections may save bandwidth, wouldn't it possibly have the side-effect of making the Bitcoin network less resilient?

I guess I will see how much bandwidth is used when I finally get my node up.

yeah, but if you are trying to run a node locally and are bandwidth starved, that's something you should do.  

otherwise you'll either randomly connect to an outgoing peer that is missing part of the block chain or have one connect to you.  then your upstream is saturated

i think it's not so bad in other parts of the world, but in the US, you really get gimped on upstream
995  Economy / Computer hardware / wtb ~60ghash avalon/BFL single or knc miners -- within 500 miles of dallas, tx on: November 15, 2013, 12:11:30 PM
for KNC Miners I'm referring to the mercury, saturn, jupiter.  i assume some mercury and saturn units are out there, just only see jupiters on here.

i'd much prefer to do local pickup, but if someone trusts me enough to send me the unit then have me pay, i'd be fine with that.    i could also arrange for a local pickup within 100 miles or so of memphis, tennessee or tulsa, OK

can pay it all in cash.  though obviously if it was something like a jupiter, it would require some extra steps (re: not going to meet up with some stranger with $5000 cash in my pocket)

anyway, PM me if you have anything and might be interested & what you're looking for.   i also have some used computer equipment that i could trade w/ as well as usd (two 750 watt gold cert psus, 1250 bronze cert psu, 920 silver cert psu, 2x850 watt bronze cert psu, msi 990fxa-gd80 mb, two evga 680i sli mb, some other motherboards, 3x 5870s, 2x 5830s, 1x 6990, 2x 7790, 1x 7770, 1x 7850 2GB, 1x 7850 1GB, 1x 7970, 6x8GB ddr3 sticks, 3x2GB DDR3, some other misc DDR3 memory, dozens of fans inc. some silverstones etc, asus rt-n66u router, switches, monitors, motorola sb5100 surfboard cable modem, couple DSL modems I don't recall the brand for, some new in box ibm model m 1391401 keyboards, and on and on and on).

ed:

ok, i'll give some starting points, since some people think i'm gonna pay over $1200 for a 60ghash machine

I just got rid of one for ~$1050 (or more like $1100 now).  I'm not going to pay $1200 (or $1400) for one.  Try something like $800

I'm not going to pay $10,000 for a Jupiter

I'm not going to pay $400 for some PoS 12ghash thingamajig
996  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 4 fully assembled "Chili" ASIC Miners 32-35 gh/s 1.69 BTC each Free Shipping on: November 15, 2013, 11:50:58 AM
hmm, i remember talking to you about that avalon unit before, but I don't remember where you said you were located...  for some reason I'm thinking it was in the dallas area?

i might be interested in all four if it was pickup in person (obv would want a discounted price)
997  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1.3 TH] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too on: November 15, 2013, 06:18:38 AM
I don't mind helping the pool to get it back up.  Are the stats on the site correct?   Did this really happen:
http://blockchain.info/block-index/439709/00000000000000046ecff1fada9be8c94eb6e040463686eb647700d56692de73

?



no,

blockchain.info needs to stop presuming that 5.9.24.81 is deepbit

'cause this is becoming a recurring problem...  and i'm not deepbit, anyway
998  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7 KnC Jupiters available for 6 BTC Each, Refurbished. - IMS on: November 15, 2013, 02:09:20 AM

if they can ship those jupiters to MARS then yes... I AM SERIOUS...

Careful they don't mistake Mars for Uranus  Cheesy

lol
999  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: RedFury 2.6GH USB miner will ti pay for itself? on: November 15, 2013, 02:05:16 AM
Now they are for 0,2BTC each.
will they pay for themselves or its actually a lost cause and not worht it?

even if they were at .2BTC each, they'd never pay for themselves........... unless bitcoin price went up a lot

but then you'd be better off buying bitcoins

the only way they'd ever make .2 bitcoins in their lifetime is if bitcoin price was to plummet & thus cause difficulty level to drop.  even if difficulty dropped to 20% gain per cycle, it'd take, what, thousands of years to get .2 bitcoins ?
1000  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What ROI really means... on: November 15, 2013, 02:02:05 AM
Also the rapid (but not stable, will probably drop $100 or so) gains in the BTC/USD price makes breaking even a lot more possible.
No, it makes it harder, because it encourages more mining, causing difficulty to rise more rapidly than expected. If you're already mining, your mining hardware is a sunk cost. Be able to buy mining hardware for fewer Bitcoins doesn't help you. The rising BTC/USD price favors Bitcoin holders and disfavors Bitcoin miners. (In fact, it means you have to mine for longer, which actually increases your costs slightly because mining hardware has to be maintained, needs Internet access, and so in.)

If you don't want to take a long-term long position on Bitcoins or don't have money to invest, you should not mine. If you do want to take a long-term position on Bitcoins and do have money to invest, you face a question -- should I buy and hold or should I mine? The advantage of buying and holding is that you can time your selling. The only conceivable advantage of mining would be that you get more Bitcoins that way. If it doesn't do that, it has no conceivable advantage over buying and holding but does have disadvantages. If mining is inferior to buying and holding, why would any sane person do it?

yeah, spot on.

Something in a similar thread about how the guy was 'getting close to ROI' on his ASIC he purchased x months ago because bitcoin price has gone up 2x... and I thought to myself, yeah, but if you had bought bitcoins at that time, you'd be up 2x instead of just struggling to get your purchase price back.

the purchase of mining gear (at a reasonable price, ofc) would be the best move to make if you think bitcoin price will remain stable
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