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981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: July 06, 2020, 11:12:27 PM

Right. However, in the case of the casino, we do not have a situation - I won. Although everything always depends on the person.
Casino, if I may say so, gives emotions in exchange for money, with the opportunity to win money.
But most people go to the casino and spend the money that they need there, which causes them to be very frustrated, leaving them with the feeling of losing.


It is good when a person understands what casinos are for. That these are the best recipients of money in exchange for emotions. Many people perceive casinos as an opportunity to earn money on a regular basis, and it is they who most often have problems related to spending a large amount of money and gambling addiction.
982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 06, 2020, 11:06:47 PM
As has happened in several places after the opening of a tourist site and / or other industry, at least they are worried about the spread of the virus in the second wave and the threat will always be there, this virus is still there and has not disappeared and the vaccine has not been found and even though they implement the protocol health is not still not going to guarantee 100% protected from coronavirus infection.

Exactly, that's why they are recovering the business to help the economy, the virus will continue to infect people if they are not careful but it should not result to a total lockdown if the government can't feed the people. The economy is very important, without a job, people will suffer from hunger, so we should not treat this virus as something that would stop us and will make us helpless, it should not be that way.
We must find a balance between keeping people safe and protecting the economy, the problem is that many people do not listen, as soon as the economy was opened they went to the streets as if nothing was happening and they took no precautions, things are so bad that were I live some businesses had to close their doors again, people are mad about this but the pandemic grew out of control in the few weeks everything was open so we can only blame ourselves for the current state of the economy.

This is very difficult. Contain the spread of the coronavirus and make sure that people do not feel under house arrest. There is also another big problem - keeping the economy from collapsing. I think it's high time to allow healthy people to make their own choices. Anyone who wants to take a risk can take a risk and go to Las Vegas.
The game now in Las Vegas will have a double excitement. One is to win the game. The other is not to get infected with the coronavirus.
983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have an idea about betting on bitcoin on: July 06, 2020, 10:32:57 PM
Betting on the price of Bitcoin is not comparable to poker. The difference is very strong. What you described is very similar to buying a futures contract or even selling, where you can choose the price of Bitcoin on a specific date.
I agree! Why would poker would be similar with Bitcoin price betting? Its totally different but in the sense that both do require analysis then we can at least point out some similarities.
There are lots of binary options based or even futures trading out there that do offer this stuff and we know that there are platforms that do offer poker games.
They are entirely on different field imho.

That's just it. There is no need to come up with bets on the price of Bitcoin in an online casino. All this has long been available on exchanges where you can buy and sell Bitcoin futures.
In poker, you need more skills and the ability to bluff than just rely on luck.
984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have an idea about betting on bitcoin on: July 06, 2020, 08:31:02 PM
I have an idea. I will not implement it, I don't know if already it exists, but I would like to post it. Tell me, if it would be dumb.

These days, there are many online casinos with games like poker. I wonder, how would a betting price site would be?

Like betting 0.01BTC on the price of bitcoin. If, I've bet that by tomorrow it will have pass 10,000$ I would get the analogous amount of BTC
If the price wouldn't, I would have simply lost my funds. There is a difference with poker here, tho. Central authorities, cannot control it. So the man that has the site, may bankrupt. On the other hand, I think we can admit that online poker (especially with real money) is never on pure luck of the cards.

Betting on the price of Bitcoin is not comparable to poker. The difference is very strong. What you described is very similar to buying a futures contract or even selling, where you can choose the price of Bitcoin on a specific date.
985  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: US Presidential Election 2020 on: July 06, 2020, 03:43:27 PM
I will happily admit not being an expert when it comes to US politics nor am I totally understanding all these pre-elections, delegates etc. It's hard to get the exact modus operandi for someone not living in the US - maybe even for people that actually live there, not sure - and tbh I didn't dive too deep into it (shame on me). 

I'm not an expert either. Moreover, I do not live in the USA. But personally, I am sure that the majority of citizens will vote for Trump. People like his actions to increase jobs, which is facilitated by the return of many industries from China, limiting migration and other steps in this area. It would be good if he had a serious competitor. So there will be more winnings from betting on Trump.
986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? on: July 06, 2020, 02:57:11 PM
Perhaps, with the new casinos entering the market, the competition will be harder since the old casinos already established their crucial characteristic which is their reputation, I am not saying they wouldn't stand a chance, but with the right marketing and good service they could provide, it will still be possible for these new casinos to compete.



In order for casino owners to get used to the new business and compete with those who have been on the market for a long time, you need to invest a lot of money in advertising, in encouraging new users. You can offer something new that other online casinos don't have. So far, I've only seen ways to invest a lot of money in advertising and offer welcome bonuses to new players.

The should probably create good/safe betting games that more bettors can win regularly, learn something productive from or both. I guess that will count as unique if nothing like that exist already in betting world. Most are probably still creating things that do not excit people well enough and that aren't easy to use/win


Increasing the winning percentage of player's bets is a bad competitive for the casino. If every casino does this, they will run at a loss. This is deadly for business. There are many ways to attract players, and even I have written about them here many times.
987  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: July 06, 2020, 02:25:52 PM
The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.
yeah the ambiance  is really priceless thats why i really wanted to play in real casino ever since.

though sometimes i am losing my mood specially when the pandemic started and i have no chance to go in those places .

So the ending?now i only play Online and having no plan on going to any of these casino houses unless the cure for Covid19 already in market.

Let's see how the opening of a casino in Las Vegas will affect the situation. I draw conclusions based on my country. We have a lot of people on the streets now without masks and no one is afraid of anything)
I hope the vaccine will be ready soon. And all of us will be able to enjoy the atmosphere of a real casino without fear of getting sick.
988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? on: July 06, 2020, 01:22:06 PM
The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?

It is very easy to attract attention with good advertising, welcome bonuses and a beautiful and convenient website design. However, it is much more difficult to make sure that those who came to play remain there forever. It is most difficult to acquire regular visitors.

It is not that easy, good advertising such as signature campaign or forum banners does not give any guarantees that people will come to the site. Beginning phase of a business including gambling business is the hard part as it needs so many hard work as well as patience from the owner. I can even say that keeping players to stay is easier than attracting new players to come.

As far as I understand advertising on the forum for most of these casinos is not the only one. They are also advertised in other places in order to reach the target audience as much as possible.
989  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? on: July 05, 2020, 10:50:24 PM
The chances are low and odds are against unless the new casino aims to be a specific game focused gambling platform. The long term success will happen but there are questions have to be answered by the team before going to accept this decision: Will they be able to advertise among the new casino and gain the trust of players among all the old established brand casinos?

It is very easy to attract attention with good advertising, welcome bonuses and a beautiful and convenient website design. However, it is much more difficult to make sure that those who came to play remain there forever. It is most difficult to acquire regular visitors.
990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can online gambling help to kickstart the global economy? on: July 05, 2020, 10:27:43 PM
How gambling affects the economy can be seen in the example of Las Vegas. There, casinos can be considered city-forming enterprises. Most of the tourists come to play at the casino. If the casinos are not working, then the places in hotels are empty, restaurants are idle. A lot of people are out of work.
Because of the coronavirus, businesses that were directed to work with people suffered the most.

But what we need to remember is gambling is a service that adds no value to the economy. Though it would fulfill the needs of some people and give them jobs, it would not have any positive effect on economic development. The money spent on gambling, tours, travels, restaurants would employ some but would not yield any positive outcomes or boost for the economy.

Why don't they have a positive effect? Such a cool city as Las Vegas appeared and exists largely due to gambling. Casinos are just beginning the entire chain of money circulation in the service sector. It is continued by hotels, restaurants, and so on. All these enterprises pay taxes, pay salaries to employees, and place various orders at other enterprises in the state.
991  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: July 05, 2020, 10:16:26 PM
It's a job that raking them good money, so they will do everything on their power to put everyone as comfortable as you can get inside a casino, specially a good and well-known land base casinos. And this is what gamblers wanted to see and feel when they are inside, the atmosphere and the sounds of slot machine, people shouting when they hit big. But at the end of the day, you could be losing money in exchange of this experiences.

Exactly. Many people leave a lot of money there and therefore they want to be treated as benefactors. Of course, everyone understands that these smiles are artificial and goodwill is feigned, but in such an atmosphere it is much more pleasant to play than when everyone is sullen and angry.

The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.
More time you spend then more money you are going to spend, this is just the tactics of casinos.Maybe you actually don't want to spend that much time and money there but you did just because you feel something relaxed.Who knows meanwhile you are going to spend everything what you had in that case online casino is way better because we may not spend much time and also we don't feel guilty about betting with small money.

This is the reason why I always take the amount of money I am willing to spend at the casino and not a cent more. I advise my friends to do the same.
992  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 05, 2020, 09:33:33 PM
I can't understand why you are sharing fake information about health. is not matter of agreement, if we are talking about science you should post your reference or you're just writing blatant lies or trolling all people here around.

Let me ask you a simple question. A person got sick with the flu virus. Because of the virus, he had pneumonia. What disease do you think he died of, what cause of death will be written in the documents?

Starting from death rate of influenza (isn't the same of COVID19) = this is a number, I have clear showed with CDC site.

I didn't find any statistics for my country there. So I have nothing to compare. I know what is written in official statistics in my country and what is really happening in hospitals. I don't know how things actually happen in other countries.

Can we continue our discussion in the PM?
993  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? on: July 05, 2020, 09:21:55 PM
~snip~
Hence to get some attention, newer casinos should bring something new and unique to get attention of the users.
I have here in the forum for how many years this is what I have been witnesses in some newer casino. They put a lot of effort to do their marketing strategies, having giveaways, bonuses, and promotions as well just to have build trust in the community. These are the way to have a unique style to get the gambler's attention.

There's nothing wrong with the new, new gambling site is very exciting to explore new features that you never encounter. I think if you don't trust because this is newly launched, why not just try a small amount and experience to gamble a new one, I guess you will also rewarding if you will find a bug on a new gambling site.

I think there would be at least a lot of information about an online casino that would deliver beer to their regular players at home.  Cool Of course, in compliance with local legislation. This would be a great marketing move and they would be featured in many news stories.
994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? on: July 05, 2020, 03:31:28 PM
Perhaps, with the new casinos entering the market, the competition will be harder since the old casinos already established their crucial characteristic which is their reputation, I am not saying they wouldn't stand a chance, but with the right marketing and good service they could provide, it will still be possible for these new casinos to compete.



In order for casino owners to get used to the new business and compete with those who have been on the market for a long time, you need to invest a lot of money in advertising, in encouraging new users. You can offer something new that other online casinos don't have. So far, I've only seen ways to invest a lot of money in advertising and offer welcome bonuses to new players.
995  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can online gambling help to kickstart the global economy? on: July 05, 2020, 03:16:43 PM
Most people would say, gambling is a destructive activity and that it only destroys lives... and in a way I agree with them. The thing is, everything comes with good and bad and gambling is not an exception.  Wink  

Regulated and licensed gambling operations are obligated to pay taxes.... right.. well every Dollar added to the government fiscus helps to fund large projects. These projects create new job opportunities and also income for unemployed people and also stimulate the economy when these people use that money in the retail industry. (Food & Services)

Some people actually win at some of these casinos and they win big, so this money also goes back into the economy and these gambling operations employ people to run these casinos, so that is also a added benefit of these online casinos.

What other positive things can you think of that online casinos can add to the global economy?

How gambling affects the economy can be seen in the example of Las Vegas. There, casinos can be considered city-forming enterprises. Most of the tourists come to play at the casino. If the casinos are not working, then the places in hotels are empty, restaurants are idle. A lot of people are out of work.
Because of the coronavirus, businesses that were directed to work with people suffered the most.
996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: July 05, 2020, 02:28:23 PM
The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.
997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 05, 2020, 01:52:56 PM
Viruses don't kill people on their own. As a rule, they weaken the human body, greatly reduce its immunity. Some people have complications of diseases that they already had before Contracting the virus. In other people, infection with new diseases follows infection with the virus. Very often there are various pneumonia.
The virus itself can not kill, other diseases kill, it only helps them do it.

Basically the reason why most infected are older people is because they already have complications and health problems, the virus makes this complication severe. This doesn't mean that people who are younger shouldn't fear the virus, they could be a carrier even with asymptomatic symptoms. Meaning, the people who surround them could be infected and is at risk.

With regards to opening the Casinos, for me it is advisable for the youngers at age 40 and below and with strict proper sanitation to play.

Of course, the disease is most susceptible to older people. But this does not mean that young people are safe. Everyone should take care of themselves and once again not risk getting infected with the coronavirus.
However, every healthy person has the right to make a choice to go to Las Vegas and play in the casino or not.

I see many people quoted us, but I will go with Deisik here. Now we have a situation where we still have a virus around, thus a lot of additional problems created by locking down. And it's not just about Vegas, it's about many cities and countries. And this is a bottom line, we can use any statistic, any individual story, headlines from newspapers, politicians and their crazy ideas, answer on question did quarantine didn't help! Just for the record, I don't believe in all words and numbers I watch every fuckin day, someone is lying big time about the virus and economy.

Governments are very often not telling the truth. They want to please the crowd. That is why many countries had a quarantine that only led to an economic downturn.

I agree with this.

As of this moment, if the immune system of the infected person is high then the chances of the infected getting succumbed to this virus is somewhat low. This is the reason why the elderly people are the ones who are at risk here because they already have a low immunity because of their age.

Increasing your immunity will protect you with the virus but aside from it, mask & alcohol will protect you too. Stay healthy folks because we are at the first half of the year but still no cure for the virus yet. This will be a long ride guys so stay healthy and follow the guidelines in your places Wink.

bitbollo don't agree with me. He thinks I'm trolling him.

~

I'm not here to argue with you. You can count as you like. I have doctors close relatives. I told you what I heard from them about the coronavirus. I'm not the kind of person to joke about this.
998  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? on: July 04, 2020, 11:49:15 PM
I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

See how much advertising on this forum belongs to the casino. Among them there are old casinos that have long established themselves and have many fans. However, new ones are also constantly appearing. There is no point in listing them all. Just go to the forum services section and see a lot of bounty campaigns from new casinos. They advertise themselves because they want to attract regular players.

I agree with this. Most of these btc paying sig campaigns are owned by casinos. And most of the long running ones like bitvest and 777coin, are casino-based. And you will see also relatively new casinos that are currently holding their campaigns. So yes, there are successful new casinos out there. You can also check their respective threads in the Gambling section.

We can't know how successful the new casinos will be. We don't have access to their statistics. However, a good indicator here is the appearance of new casinos and their advertising costs. If someone wants to engage in such a business and invests money in it, it means that such a business can make a profit.
999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 04, 2020, 11:16:02 PM
It's around 1-1,5% mostly hitting subject with other co-morbidities.
Covid19 has killed also a lot of people without health problem...and going to ER for respiratory issues is not easy for anyone.

Viruses don't kill people on their own. As a rule, they weaken the human body, greatly reduce its immunity. Some people have complications of diseases that they already had before Contracting the virus. In other people, infection with new diseases follows infection with the virus. Very often there are various pneumonia.
The virus itself can not kill, other diseases kill, it only helps them do it.
1000  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? on: July 04, 2020, 10:55:40 PM
I've been on this forum long enough to see perhaps hundreds of casinos come and go. They keep appearing and dying shortly afterward all the time, and I wonder why people still take such a high risk of opening a casino when there is a close to 100% chance your casino will fail. This got me thinking about popular casinos. Of course, we all know the names. But they are usually years old, not anything from 2019-2020. The one exception is Stake.com, but I wouldn't count it as an example of a new casino appearing out of nowhere and attracting gamblers because it did not come out of nowhere (it's owned by Primedice). Is it just me or are there virtually no recent casinos that got popular? Or can you name some examples? And in general, do you think new casinos appearing in 2020 stand a chance against those with solid reputation and long time on the market?

See how much advertising on this forum belongs to the casino. Among them there are old casinos that have long established themselves and have many fans. However, new ones are also constantly appearing. There is no point in listing them all. Just go to the forum services section and see a lot of bounty campaigns from new casinos. They advertise themselves because they want to attract regular players.
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