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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: December 17, 2014, 06:38:12 AM
Changing the algorithm is nice, but the course is rapidly rushed to the bottom, it's the end coin?

statements like this contribute 0 to anything please read my previous post on reasons behind the change, you don't need to be negative coin has reached nice plateau already and many have nice chance to get started in crypto with it in the right way, with few GPU cards and some fun, please think twice before making post like this it as it really does not do anything literarily
982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN: [OPAL] | SuperNET | MOBILE MESSAGING | OPAL DRIVE | HTML5 WALLET on: December 17, 2014, 06:32:04 AM
Not regulating but good to see experienced users willing to be helpful to others and not just sitting in high judgement. We all had to start somewhere and we can all make mistakes. Many face slap.  Grin The Opal community and devs came out well during this.


of course, I applaud this as well, my interest is longevity of this technology (as an early investors) and I like applying blockchain idea to concepts other (or in addition to) money transfer
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN: [OPAL] | SuperNET | MOBILE MESSAGING | OPAL DRIVE | HTML5 WALLET on: December 17, 2014, 06:25:17 AM
OPAL is not in the business of regulating user behavior  Cool

I think people have to get into habit of posting MD5 hash signature of wallets in the binary form and better even for ultra secure minded building wallets from github sources direct at least early adapters as we all are, later on during adaptation phase wallets will be treated as any other software and public is already educated on virus scanners and the like, I don't think it is big deal at all and I believe exhanges overreacted as they are building wallets themselves from github are in in 0 danger, it is an extra caution, maybe it is ok they overreact I am certainly not rushing to trade OPAL any time soon, way too early like years early

984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: December 17, 2014, 02:19:54 AM
this statement I like (from the white paper by VERT) : https://vertcoin.org/downloads/Vertcoin_Lyra2RE_Paper_11292014.pdf

"Unlike Scrypt, Lyra2 (the principal part of the chained algorithm) allows us to change memory usage and time cost independently, giving us more leverage against ASICs."

so VERT acknowledges theoretical and practical possibility and reality of fpga for lyra2 but with caveat that algorithm can adjust and render these systems ineffective (or needed to be reprogrammed on the chip level)

"At this time we have decided not to implement an “N factor” schedule as it is nearly impossible to predict the future. However, Lyra2RE will give us the flexibility to make changes whenever that becomes necessary"

N factor would adjustments could combat fpga/asic with necessity of fpga reprogramming (and invalidate complete asic investment and asic is cheaper to make and handle so risk to consumers of them is rather big)

also this:

"By contrast, Lyra2RE aims to be ASIC-resistant at heart, allowing for less disruption to miners in the future due to our ability to change algorithm parameters rather than change algorithm all together. It will also free up development time to focus on new features without having to worry about constantly implementing new algorithms every time there is an ASIC threat"

so at least and unlike many crypto VERT is very open about the situation

for fpga, a new micro kernel code has to be created and chips flashed for any parameter adjustments, average user will have to ship device to the manufacturer and wait for new boards to be received back, then VERT community or VERT dev itself sees fpga activity again based on the profitability scale and perform adjustment again at some point it becomes impractical to get fpga chips reprogrammed every time

we are looking better and better from the long term investment strategy and I wish this would have been done sooner, but coin has been re-launched and people can rebuild their portfolio from the bottom instead of from the top.
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: December 16, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
@ocminer above large scale DDOS attack (potentially using hundreds of zombie computers) as we speak is in progress

since crypto pools and exchanges are unregulated FBI will push priority less and they do, if a blue chip company would be attacked like this problem would be delt with in < 1 hr
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: December 16, 2014, 08:52:58 PM
move to lyra2 was absolutely great as amp required to drive scrypt-N was almost illegal  Cool

congrats to Vert team, although wish they would have acted sooner.. in general it would benefit community to study lyra2 with an understanding if an fpga/asic can be built to attack it...

no large community ever would mine scrypt-N on a massive scale (hence no wonder price have plummeted), lyra2 has a chance, amp reduction is significant

I think Lyra2RE can be done on FPGA - just depends how much you want to spend. From my understanding, FPGAs are EXCELLENT at logical operations, but fast memory for them gets expensive quickly. 6KiB is not a lot of memory; I think it would be cheap - but that assumes you only want to run one thread at a time. I think, for best performance, you'd want to run dozens, or maybe even hundreds of threads - then you'd start getting bit by the cost, I think.

Anyone with actual experience doing FPGA work, feel free to correct me/chime in.

theoretically always, but one need an expert , there could be tremendous memory requirement and fpga cost would be prohibitive although a singular manufacturer could create advantage for self

Believe above statement is behind weakening of crypto in general as difficulty level is just not there (unlike bitcoin) to have worry less

It is a tough problem

also explains ripple and nxt rise as asset management tools and rise of POS this year.. over POW.. as far as alt coins are concerned

I also second "Anyone with actual experience doing FPGA work, feel free to correct me/chime in." statement insofar as what and how long and possibly how much would it cost to build fpga for lyra2

any software/hardware prohibitive roadblocks would yield advantage (positively speaking)  to an investor(s) I am serious

investors are much more sophisticated than one imagines  Cool

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987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: December 16, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
move to lyra2 was absolutely great as amp required to drive scrypt-N was almost illegal  Cool

congrats to Vert team, although wish they would have acted sooner.. in general it would benefit community to study lyra2 with an understanding if an fpga/asic can be built to attack it...

no large community ever would mine scrypt-N on a massive scale (hence no wonder price have plummeted), lyra2 has a chance, amp reduction is significant

btw, large scale DDOS attacks are in progress right now across pools and exchanges, idea there is always to depress MH/s (from the network) to gain an advantage
988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: December 16, 2014, 08:34:53 PM
Ditched X11 with my working GPU rig and now have it mining VTC.

I've got a half dozen more 750ti's that have been gathering dust for months... I might rebuild that rig in the coming days, especially if the news is as good as has been reported when I whip out the kill-o-watt meter tomorrow.

Vertcoin always had the best community and ambition.  The last few months have been trying, but with the hard fork to Lyra2RE, we can start getting excited again.

I'll post power numbers here tomorrow.  AM3+ ASRock boards, Sempron procs, one rig with EVGA cards (running), and another with PNY cards.

The EVGA 750ti's are hashing at 720-725 kh/s each, except one that's stuck at 710-715.



EVGA 750Ti's are factory OC'ed, or more? what clocks?
(I have 690kH/s with Palit StormX Dual, "factory OC" only)

EVGA 750Ti' 620 kHs/s with Gigabyte running Linux ... what dd you do above to achieve higher hash rates ? thanks!

I know ccminer has intensity setting "-i" auto , tried it no effect.. also using latest Cuda 6.5 driver

anyone ? Unix / EVGA 750Ti experience ?

thanks much in advance

I used the unofficial binary from a different fork available here:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/4049-updated-windows-binary-of-the-ccminer-1-5-1-git-fork-by-sp-for-maxwell/

Running just fine for me, but now I'm wondering if it's an illusion.  Still getting 720-725 according to ccminer (except the one stubborn card that's lower), but simplemulti reports me at just over 3 m/hash which, divided by five, is more like 620 k/hash.  Hmmm...

These are the EVGA OC cards, on default core speed but increased memory.  It's been a while since I tweaked those settings... it's been in zombie mode mining X11 for months, waiting for something better to come along (like the forked Vertcoin).

PS:  Further overclocking the cores to +40 and the memory to +475 jumps them - according to ccminer - into the realm of 725-735.  I haven't pulled out the kill-o-watt, but I highly doubt the power involved in the overclocking is worth the modest additional hashrate.

appreciate it, I really thing most we can pull is 620 MH/s on the 750 also please note this:

cuda_6.5.19_linux_64.run  drops about 10 MH/s on a card (just tested it)

use

cuda_6.5.14_linux_64.run

at least on Unix

989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: December 16, 2014, 08:32:44 PM
I use more power in Lyra because I use higher Vcore and higher memory frequency.
You use less power in Lyra because you use lower Vcore and lower core frequency.
So maybe Lyra uses similar power as Neo.


 Grin so plz try different config to get max speed and less power, may be your problem in catalyst and OS driver version, or mem/core ratio and other setting like intensity, worksize. We tried trix,giga,ref 79xx,asus,pcs,msi and among them run stable at undervolt and high speed
dont worry maybe in the next few days you'll be able to get better results.


My Lyra hash rate is 7900kH/s with 950W power consumption, or 8.3kH/J. My Neoscrypt hash rate is 2000kH/s with 870W power or 2.3 kH/J. Is your efficiency better than that?

I also run XMR cpu mining with that rig, using 3 threads of 3770k. The power consumption includes cpu mining, which is about 30W.

it is absolutely great you are using CPU to mine a coin, very old school, I like it, imagine if half the population of the United States did that, right now is just us a small fraction, someone asked what will it take to propel crypto higher for me is nodes many nodes scattered around and mining  Cool

I am exhausted and tired of short term trades and thinking on exchanges the various pumps and dumps for few hundred dollars profit , few hundred dollars profit although it is money and respected (as behind money FIAT there is work, real human sweat and struggle) is not much in the grand scheme of things
990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: December 16, 2014, 02:49:48 PM
Ditched X11 with my working GPU rig and now have it mining VTC.

I've got a half dozen more 750ti's that have been gathering dust for months... I might rebuild that rig in the coming days, especially if the news is as good as has been reported when I whip out the kill-o-watt meter tomorrow.

Vertcoin always had the best community and ambition.  The last few months have been trying, but with the hard fork to Lyra2RE, we can start getting excited again.

I'll post power numbers here tomorrow.  AM3+ ASRock boards, Sempron procs, one rig with EVGA cards (running), and another with PNY cards.

The EVGA 750ti's are hashing at 720-725 kh/s each, except one that's stuck at 710-715.



EVGA 750Ti's are factory OC'ed, or more? what clocks?
(I have 690kH/s with Palit StormX Dual, "factory OC" only)

EVGA 750Ti' 620 kHs/s with Gigabyte running Linux ... what dd you do above to achieve higher hash rates ? thanks!

I know ccminer has intensity setting "-i" auto , tried it no effect.. also using latest Cuda 6.5 driver

anyone ? Unix / EVGA 750Ti experience ?

thanks much in advance
991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: December 15, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
Scrypt-N/scrypt/X11 "vulnerability" might be a false alarm

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/24650/looking-for-nonces-of-even-numbers

OS is skewing results and it appears algorithm is broken although statistically more "n mod 256 == 0" nonces are submitted from the clients.. very common and basic statistical analysis error (environment is skewed)

lyra2re is still a good move, electricity less and it is by far more advanced algo than scrypt-N is , all good

no extra advantage can be taken.... I am sure many have looked but you are wasting your time

Sounded a little too good to be true. Also sounded a little fucked - output of a hash alg shouldn't EVER be skewed like that.

you would have complete collapse of scrypt/scrypt-N/X11/X13 if this would be true, collapse was due to market forces (but not in full, full is 0)

also I can't imagine Ethan from darkcoin team who is as sharp as nails would run darkcoin as he runs uninterrupted

I say 99.99% false alarm please read above link in full (it is not nodes but mining clients that output skewed nonces f anything they are doing themselves disservice by reducing entropy in the output)
992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: December 15, 2014, 08:12:52 PM
Scrypt-N/scrypt/X11 "vulnerability" might be a false alarm

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/24650/looking-for-nonces-of-even-numbers

OS is skewing results and it appears algorithm is broken although statistically more "n mod 256 == 0" nonces are submitted from the clients.. very common and basic statistical analysis error (environment is skewed)

lyra2re is still a good move, electricity less and it is by far more advanced algo than scrypt-N is , all good

no extra advantage can be taken.... I am sure many have looked but you are wasting your time
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LTCD] LitecoinDark ★ Scrypt ★ Difficulty Shield ★ Multipool ★ Fast on: December 15, 2014, 01:57:11 AM
Forget the Mac wallet. I'm out. Sold the last of my original 550k stash. I think I'm done with alts for awhile.

you won't be able to buy a house or a car or even a computer with that sell and the moment I am saying, it is not worth to sell but rather keep supporting crypto movement in general for it is not going anywhere, one of the key things with LTCD is its name and abbreviation, it will mean a great deal in the future mark my words

have a great week ahead all
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LTCD] LitecoinDark ★ Scrypt ★ Difficulty Shield ★ Multipool ★ Fast on: December 15, 2014, 01:53:25 AM
I intend to provide a MAC wallet to the other people that might want one.

awesome, in the past I have never succeeded making Mac wallet for LTCD, if you have a process (Maverick) like what mac ports should be used and gcc (or clang) here is where gets tricky with clang,. please post it, very valuable in general

let me check exchanges quick.. for LTCD holding steady at 228.. cool..  you are funny bunch you use forum to "fight" each other instead of posting incremental updates.. Mac wallet is one of them.. I am sure there are other incremental improvements

 Cool

995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]:[INSANITY]: A SCRYPT Coin for the Criminally Insane : LAUNCH on: December 15, 2014, 01:20:52 AM
Now do not move blocks
Over 15 minutes
This is really a crazy coin!
How to get 11 coins?


that is because part of design is air gap as per "Unable to connect to wallet RPC service: RPC call failed: Failed to connect to localhost port 21000: Connection refused"

coins will cross over so to speak using ethere (um)
996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]:[INSANITY]: A SCRYPT Coin for the Criminally Insane : LAUNCH on: December 15, 2014, 01:12:40 AM
it is a "collectors" coin, I self have for example Japanese special "Nokumura" coin that very few ever heard of let alone have
997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]:[INSANITY]: A SCRYPT Coin for the Criminally Insane : LAUNCH on: December 15, 2014, 12:58:55 AM
our pool ready - http://ins.binpool.com/ - pre-ann

wait miners

due to insanely increasing ISP costs and ever escalating cost of everything supported by 91% fee
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] COMING SOON - "INSANITY" - the coin for the criminally insane. on: December 15, 2014, 12:57:22 AM
wallet is here http://
999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: December 14, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
Hello guys! I hav 570 khash/s from AMD7870 on Lira2R. Is it good hasrate for these GPU?
Or it is not good?

this is what Nvidia 750 TI does for me approx 600K,  I think your hashrate should be higher its a stronger card but and > electrical
you should get a little more on the 750ti (around 660kh/s)

using Unix ... get around 620kh/s ccminer unlike cudaminer does not allow one to override card frequency, would you mind sharing your ccminer command line (if you are also 750 TI) thanks much

also difficulty went up to 117.90432418, so obviously my hash rate is less from overnight, that is good ASIC's are taken out of equation
1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: December 14, 2014, 04:26:35 PM
I think ultimately it comes down to the targetting (min/max diff settings), the diff1 mask, and the multiplier required.

Scrypt-N pool settings were using the Scrypt Diff1 Mask. Pool target of 16, Min of 16 and Max of 1024.

Lyra2RE settings we are now using the Quark Diff1 Mask (Scrypt Diff1 mask seems to put LTCMAXMYR's rate at around 6gh/s which is obviously wrong also) and the X11 Diff1 Mask results in too many "share above target" settings. Min of 0.1 and Max of 6.4 (based on the 16 to 1024 ratio).

If Hashlink and others can post their settings, we can maybe iron this out.

I don't know if the difference is because of ccminer and sgminer however, but there is something weird.

I see, makes sense, also I just got 100 VERT payout from you just now, thanks  Cool
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