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861  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 01:28:29 PM
For some people jobs are so important , it's a part of their life their well-being. Therefore for some people I do think they want to work till they are old .. investing is a tricky thing , if you invest in something which you haven't studied much about you are bound to loose a high amount of money.

Retirement plan is really really important and I do think you should go towards a safer option like banks , saving up everyday would do the trick.

Investing in something like property would be a good thing for sure ..


Property is expensive and you would need to take loan from the bank, I think the bank would relunctance to giving out home loan under such climate, unless you can secure the home loan, or you aren’t allowed into this premium club for the elite.
862  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 11:17:56 AM
I strongly agree we should not delay investing in cryptocurrency, don't we spend our lives just for work. Because a happy life can run our
hobbies all the time, without being interrupted by work schedules. We must be able to enjoy life in this world happily. That can be realized
if we can already have financial freedom, it can be obtained from investment in cryptocurrency. It is true that investing is not as easy as one
might imagine, but if we don't invest right away. We are among those who throwing away opportunities, because investments can produce
huge profits. And can be a guarantee of our retire life.

Having a job is dictating you to living a life of dream, it’s hilarious but job is for the dirty peasant and investment is for the master race.
863  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 11:14:34 AM
I think people who already invest in cryptocurrency made the right choice because they can see the opportunity comes to them, especially for people who can have much bitcoin since a long time ago. I believe those people already make a lot of money from their bitcoin. That makes them don't have to do anything.

But sometimes, we think twice to invest, not just in crypto but also in the other investment type. We think that how if we cannot make a profit from the investment, and what if we lose from the investment. That is why many people still doubt to invest some of their money in any investment type because they are worried if they cannot make a profit. But if we want to make additional money from the investment, we need to search what kind of investment that can help us to make money so the investment will work for us and we can make money.

I got to know a lot of people in the virtual world who have bitcoin stash, but nobody in real life have bitcoin, yep, they’re the real investors.
864  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 11:12:25 AM
It's not so easy as it sounds.
Investing and trading are very risky and there is no guarantee you will make enough profit so that you can quit your job or earn for your retirement. That is an illusion.
Besides to be able to quit your job you need to profit really big from investing and that also means you need to invest a lot with minimum losses. That is a theory that in practice isn't functioning so idealy. You definetely need your steady regular job as a back up.

Investment return is always parabolic, you will always get far lower than your expectation in the early phases, when it take off it reward you handsomely.
865  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 11:10:10 AM
I like the idea to start investing and start generating passive income. However, it is difficult to start. I mean at least, we need to have money to start to buy something that we can invest. Fortunately, we are trying in the crypto world which can give us the opportunity to buy any coins we want and hold it for some time. Maybe we can save some amount of money in every month, so we can use it to buy the coin in the market so if we can buy bitcoin and use bitcoin as the investment, maybe that can work for us. But that will need the patience to wait for bitcoin price reach the very highest price because right now, bitcoin still at a low price.

You need capital to hunt for new job too, we spend money everyday I think we have the seed money without noticing it.
866  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 11:07:18 AM
Who dont want to overcome poverty. I think all of us want to have a good life and be financially stable. We cant get rich if we stay employee forever and we cant enjoy our salary because we are too busy working then rest when day off. So we need to do something to improve our status in life and enjoy it. On the other side investing has risk and cant guarantee a sure profit but if you made a good decision on where to invest you can succeed. We just need a right plan, knowledge and capital.

No guarantee  to the sense that we are not actually sure if  we are good unto the platforms that existing here since most of the offers are to good to be true but if we can pick up some  ideas to create a business maybe on by that we can be successful and have financial freedom.

And I don't actually believe on online investment since its for short term only and I cannot replaced that on my stable job for now.

Guarantee didn’t existed in genuine investment, you’re likely to get bitconnected which generate guarantee 1% return on daily basic.
867  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 04:53:21 AM
Who dont want to overcome poverty. I think all of us want to have a good life and be financially stable. We cant get rich if we stay employee forever and we cant enjoy our salary because we are too busy working then rest when day off. So we need to do something to improve our status in life and enjoy it. On the other side investing has risk and cant guarantee a sure profit but if you made a good decision on where to invest you can succeed. We just need a right plan, knowledge and capital.

Yeah, plan your time as early as possible, investing take time to grow, the earlier you sow the seed, the earlier you can reap the result.
868  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 04:48:49 AM
There are those who love their jobs and it is not all about money really. As for my case, having my job while doing Bitcoin would be a nice idea along with some business ideas that I want to venture. But to those who aren't happy in their own jobs then this is a good idea worth considering and especially if the pay aren't that sustaining enough to you and your family.

True, people love the job so much they married into their jobs, I think they finally found their true love.
869  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 04:46:47 AM
Despite the fact that this might be an overstatement, somehow it is true.

I agree that we din't need to waste our time since it is always the one who's earliest, take the best. Though we don't need anyone to force themselves into it, atleast take some time to study it. Slowly, it might interest you and will make you start investing in an earlier stage. Profit can wait, it is true but you might regret those times that you did not invest earlier.

People are very lazy to learn something new, investing is kind of improving your EQ, most people don’t want to learn and improve their EQ, they continue to work for their entire life, and they cry inequality, sexism, racism, when they can’t make enough in their job.
870  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 04:43:08 AM

Everybody want to get rid of their life and they’re working day in day out, 24/7, never ending working, we are miles better, with avarage US employee work 1768 hours per year or 38.6 hours per week, better than Beijing 2096 hours, Tokyo 1997 hours, Shanghai 1987 hours, Seoul 2307 hours, Dubai 2323 hours, New Delhi 2511 hours, Mexico 2622 hours.

The table didn’t deduct the time spend on commuting to work, lunch break, commuting to home, and yes, we are more than 10% better than busy Japanese working culture.

You want to quit your job and take care of your valuable life to do what you want to do in life, then you should start investing and start generating your passive income that can give you stream of cash flow every months without working, so that you can begin to planning your life and travel to enjoy what the exciting world await your visit. Don’t wait until you’re too old, start investing and living the life of your dream.
If investing is that easy to profit then many should have invested their money but because if we are talking about investment, there is always a risk to it meaning we cannot fully assure that we will end up profiting from our capital because we can also lost our capital if we will not be careful.

I've been thinking this for a long time already as I like to quit my job and make a passive income in any means where I can sustain my daily expenses. Trading comes in my mind and also investing but after knowing the truth behind it, I just focus in rendering a service where I use my skills so I don't need to use any capital just to earn some money. It is my full time job right now but without a boss, meaning I can work anytime and I can rest anytime I like.

Service as a startup are becoming the trend among many investors, I think you can generate passive income when you put effort in building it.
871  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 04:37:32 AM
That's everyone's dream to retire early and enjoy life, but investing my friend is not easy, it's very challenging especially to people who are not even earning enough. In the Philippines, most of the employees are just earning a minimum wage of like less than 10 usd a day, so we can't blame them if they can't invest as they don't have the opportunity to do it.

You can invest your time, time is the universally accepted resource for all people, everyone has the same time, you can’t cry sexism, racism, inequality, patriarchy over everybody time.
872  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 04:32:41 AM
Why not invest and work? So you can have an investment and also a stable income to sustain you daily needs?
Investment is not an easy task you need a certain knowledge for it to work and be profitable.

I have start investing and the first time I did it, I like it, it make some profit but it’s fun, I’ll continue to invest more and more.
873  Economy / Economics / Re: In the end all metals get melted. on: March 07, 2020, 01:32:43 AM
Not when the supply is limited and we have women around  Grin

No one would ever hate a vintage gold necklace and people will continue to buy it even after we would have discovered 100 more of them.

This is marketing.

Marketing is able to go around selling a dollar thing for thousands of dollars . ( What happens with diamonds )

Metals will stay for sure . Trust me.

They didn’t melt them to make into jewellery, but they turn it to the bullion to make into metal bars, and what are they going to do with the metal bars is out of my mind, I can’t never tell why they want to melt it at the first place.
874  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 01:03:43 AM
Everybody want to get rid of their life
Eh, I don't want to get rid of my life--but perhaps something got lost in the translation.

I think Warren Buffett said that if you don't put your money to work 24/7, you'll be working the rest of your life.  I agree with that statement regardless of who said it, but the problem of course is having investment capital to put to work.  A lot of people out there are working crappy jobs for very little money, and they can't afford to save or invest anything.  I definitely know people in that very position, and usually they're young or who've had kids when they were young--they didn't focus on getting a career before starting a family.  And it's either that or they live beyond their means, racking up credit card debt to buy stuff they really don't need.

But I certainly know where OP is coming from here.  I'm not sure I want to retire early, as I like working, but having a financial cushion is the best thing anybody can do.  You never know when the economy is going to crash or when you'll find yourself out of a job.

I didn’t remember Buffett said anything about investing since he’s holding 99% cash, I might have some memory loss after all these while and need to get check. Yeah, working life is horrible, everybody want to get rid of their life working for someone, I think it’s for the satire to get rid of themselves, little to debate about why they get themselves into the hot water and work their entire life, they don’t even want to learn investing, that’s why they failed to quit their jobs.

It’s a honour to get your attention about where I come from I guess? We should know when the economy come crashing the one that have most to loss are the working classes too, I think it stil come down to quit your job early so you can get rid of them all.
875  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 12:49:05 AM
I don’t think everybody wants to get rid of their jobs just because they are working from 9 to 5 or any other working day in the world because they probably like doing it or that’s the career they have chosen, and I think there is a specific time in our lives that we get to retire with that and comparing yourself to others won’t do you any kind because of the expectation that you might have and Get disappointed in the long run.

Time is the most important thing that we have, and it’s up to us on what we could do with it, and I think what’s important with us is to know what to do with that time and make sure that it’s building up for the future.

When it comes to investing, I think it’s essential to think that it’s not for everyone just because they don’t have time to study it. With that in mind, I think it’s better to be educated compared to just investing, and from that knowledge, you could make your own business or somehow do that thing that could make you retire earlier than you want to.



You can begin generate passive income as young as kindergarten. Yes a saving account for kid did existed.
I think helping my kids to be Independent when it comes to their decisions would help them when they grow up. Letting them understand the benefit of saving and knowing what to do with their money is critical on what they would do when they grow up and become adults.

How long can you depend on paycheck to support your lifestyle? Eventually you would need to quit your job, Didi Taihuttu quit his job and start investing for retirement, he did it! When are you going to do the same?
876  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 12:37:19 AM
FOMO can be dangerous sometimes, but you don't need to rush things since you are missing out and there are these people that earn thousands and millions in their investments. Everyone wants to earn huge amount of money without working 6-8 hours a day, that is everyone's dream. Though you don't need to sugarcoat everything here, investing does not mean you can have a profit every day, every week or every month. You are still wanting these people to take a risk and you should let them know that.

Starting by investing your time, everybody has time to spend on something, you do not need a lot of time to start investing, the investment return is always parabolic, the beginning would always below expectation, when it took off, it fly to moon overnight.
877  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 12:32:06 AM
...then you should start investing and start generating your passive income that can give you stream of cash flow every months without working,..

Easier been said than done.

People already know this and some are already working on it. However, it's not that simple and people can just start right away as we are living in different life standards. And even some already owned an investment, working will not stop there. They still have to manage it along the way.

Investment is not a joke and to start it just to hope for a literal passive income isn't a good idea for me. People should invest to have a stable and regular source of income and not to rely on passive ones. Of course, it needs works but it's happy to work on something that we owned that generates a regular and good revenue. The effort and time spent is worth it.

You are right, easier said than done. Also, passive income most of the time ended up not really passive as along the way, it stops for no reason. I don't believe in passive income as there are so many factors that will contribute to sustain its lifespan. And if one factor is not working, the chain would be derailed and goodbye to passive income that you are waiting for. And in terms of investment, not all people are lucky with this area. It takes a lot of experience and skill to get positive results from this.
You can’t quit your job, you can’t work for your entire life, you need to invest eventually, it’s now or never.
878  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 12:27:17 AM
In order to invest you need certain preparation an education on what to invest and how to invest, you can not start investing just like that.
Any reasons holding you back? Everybody need to start at some point, when is your turn?
879  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 12:24:02 AM
Investing doesn’t hive guaranteed profit but if you do it early as possible then you have the chance to retire early because of your investment. If you want to succeed then keep working and working, don’t quit too early and think for a good business that can run your whole family. This is not easy but its possible to happen, so keep going.
You can begin generate passive income as young as kindergarten. Yes a saving account for kid did existed.
880  Economy / Economics / Re: Start investing so you can quit your job and retire early. on: March 07, 2020, 12:17:43 AM
...then you should start investing and start generating your passive income that can give you stream of cash flow every months without working,..

Easier been said than done.

People already know this and some are already working on it. However, it's not that simple and people can just start right away as we are living in different life standards. And even some already owned an investment, working will not stop there. They still have to manage it along the way.

Investment is not a joke and to start it just to hope for a literal passive income isn't a good idea for me. People should invest to have a stable and regular source of income and not to rely on passive ones. Of course, it needs works but it's happy to work on something that we owned that generates a regular and good revenue. The effort and time spent is worth it.

Elon Musk did it
Mark Zuckerberg did it
satoshi did it
Don’t loss your hope
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