Guys you need to give it up. The BTC is lost and Ukyo is just bullshitting to stop the witch hunt. More speculation. Whatever your intuition and experience tells you, eh? Dude, if he had the BTC he would have paid the withdrawal's already. There isn't any valid excuses left now so he stays quite and uses the tried and tested "two weeks" method. Facts: He hasn't offered any proof of funds. He hasn't honoured any withdrawal requests. He hasn't redeemed any Ukyo loan He hasn't paid any ukyo loan divs Please provide any facts/evidence to the contrary. Hi, Dude ,Can we delegate a layer to help us get back our BTC?? |
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 Bitcoin/USD, last 3 months. Any questions? Bitcoin is over. If you're not out, get out. The last ones to leave will be the worst off. I've been saying for months that this was a speculative bubble, a pyramid scheme. I said that when bubbles pop, they pop all the way. There were replies like "troll" and "hater". "The bitcoin's value will inevitably increase." (Bazil). "Regular use of Bitcoins will pick up pace, it's inevitable." (Goodlord666). There are still people writing comments like that. I was right. You were wrong. Now suffer. Wow, this guy seems to know a thing or two about investment! Did any of you listen to his advice? Or are you suffering because you didn't?  I guess this guy is going to hanging his self... |
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Today is already yesterday. Where is the update?
Hehe, things look like isn't right...we are more far from good. |
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Great , do you know UKYO and are You the director of Weex? can you tell us what happen there for stop spreading FUD... Thanks
It sais right on the first page of this thread that he's the Australian Director of WeExchange so of cource he knows Ukyo. Its great, so Great should be give us some explanations about what happening with his great company .... |
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Still waiting for Ukyo's updates.
I'm dreaming of the best result might be that he is gonna sell Weex to cash out some money.
however ,I hope everything he said is true ,that our fund is still safe ,and he isn't touch it... |
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Sorry for the chunks... Ukyo has not talked this much in a long time so I keep expecting he is done. [18:05] <@Ukyo> thanks [18:07] <kanoi> Well - just to state the obvious - you'll need to explain how a wallet issue has turned into some other issue coz otherwise few will believe you (since the original issue was simply a wallet issue) [18:07] <@Ukyo> yeah [18:07] <@Ukyo> that will all be explained. [18:08] <@Ukyo> whats being done to resolve the situation, whos involved, etc [18:10] <kanoi> ... and I also presume that you reliase that if you have been using the weex funds elsewehere and lost any of them - you'll have a lynch mob after you  [18:11] <w|zzy> hi Ukyo [18:12] <@Ukyo> kanoi: I did not spend the funds. -_-; [18:12] <@Ukyo> w|zzy your update is coming along with everyone elses [18:12] <@Ukyo> I have a ton of documentation to put together still today [18:12] <@Ukyo> so i need to get back to that [18:12] <@Ukyo> as i said, just wanted talk to ppl for a bit [18:13] <kanoi> yes - was just mentioning that if that was in the explanation - you'll need to run [18:13] <nsa_> [18:13] <w|zzy> my problem is a different one though.. [18:13] <@Ukyo> your reserve will be fixed tonight/tomorrow [18:13] <@Ukyo> then your in the same boat [18:14] <@Ukyo> the old beta is shut down [18:14] <@Ukyo> kanoi: well, no worries about that being in the explanation [18:14] <kanoi>  [18:14] <@Ukyo> the only funds I spent was from the loan stuff [18:14] <w|zzy> that's fine. I don't have any withdrawals in place [18:14] <@Ukyo> and i didnt even get to spend as much of that as I wanted [18:14] <@Ukyo> or my own coins Thanks for the update...at least I know UKYO still responding..... |
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[17:58] <kanoi> so the issue has now changed from being a wallet issue into some other issue ....
[17:59] <@Ukyo> kanoi: this is why there will be a public announcement
[17:59] <@Ukyo> so everythings 100% complete and together on exactly what/when/how/why
[17:59] <@Ukyo> instead of some things guessed and peiced together
[17:59] <@Ukyo> Just waiting on confirmation of the final peice
Really ? we will get a announcement shortly ? I can;t wait to know either is bad or good news .... hope we will get a good news this time... God bless UKYO and so my fund. |
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Hopefully ,he will post something on Monday or Tuesday which He promised. |
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You should go to the doctor and get some sleeping pills as you might never get your BTC back.
He said he will post a news by Monday, I just hope this time he will bringing some good news, hopefully !~ He said Monday or Tuesday, we have another one or two sleepless nights to go. God Bless UKYO ...... if he went bankrupt, I will be totally ripped off by him... I expected you'll be able to at least get something back. 100% is not likely anymore though. I do the same wish on you. ....hopefully ,UKYO is good guy willing to keep his reputation. |
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he just did not yet showed signed wallets with the funds. That is easlily done and worries me.
If fukyou does that in the next days, I will be patient. But now, I am just angry
I only lost "just 0.42 BTC", but that was my profit gained with my first baby steps on bitfunder...
And I am a student, my BTC stash is not that big... A loss of 0.42 BTC is a lot for me.
I sincerely hope everything he said is true , he still hold our coins, and he will gives it back, but the more time pass ,the less I believe what he said. and full of suspicious are tormenting me, may be I just need him to tell me a trues about what did he do with our coins , and what is his real plan ,run or take up responsibility? |
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You should go to the doctor and get some sleeping pills as you might never get your BTC back.
He said he will post a news by Monday, I just hope this time he will bringing some good news, hopefully !~ He said Monday or Tuesday, we have another one or two sleepless nights to go. God Bless UKYO ...... if he went bankrupt, I will be totally ripped off by him... |
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You should go to the doctor and get some sleeping pills as you might never get your BTC back.
He said he will post a news by Monday, I just hope this time he will bringing some good news, hopefully !~ |
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I am getting fucking tired of this situation I already wrote my coins off as a loss  f ukyou Fuck ,I can't accept that He ties up around 200 BTC of mine!!!!!!I can't take this !!!!!! |
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Ukyo hasn't paid dividends for a few days, any news?
More than a week now, but at this point I'm a LOT more worried about ever seeing the principle back... I think we are in default territory now. He isn't paying dividends, redemptions or weexchange withdrawals. what's wrong with him?  I scary and I can't sleep recently because of him... |
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I'm still in denial.
Me too, can't accept that UKYO almost ties up 70% of my BTC, I am deeply worry and feel desperately because I can't do anything...... |
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I did catch him earlier. I told him he really needs to post -something-, put it that way.
For now we should sit tight. We're all in this boat and going off on one isn't going to fix anything. He knows how frustrated people are, and I can tell that the guy is super stressed (as he should be).
I do know he has plans for WeExchange as he's said here, and he can't proceed with anything until this issue is resolved. There is no reason to think he's run off with the money since he's not anonymous and has everything to lose if this goes bad. I also know he's been seeking help from other devs in the Bitcoin world, which I think he's posted about previously.
This contrasts with the TradeFortress situation. Please don't confuse the two.
He's definitely trying to resolve things, but obviously I'm not exactly happy as I'm owed one of the larger sums. Even so, I do think we should give this another week or two to get sorted.
The lack of anonymity is crucial here, ukyo is not going anywhere. The important thing is resolving the situation rather than making it worse.
I have over 75 BTC waiting, which is most of my liquid funds, and I know others who have more at stake who've agreed to give this a bit more time, so I hope some of you can too.
I'm travelling now but I'll have another catch up early next week (Monday or Tuesday). We need to make a master plan which we would operate to make a pressure on Ukyo, I assume that everyone would like to get it's own coins back instead stalking and putting Greame into jail, right? I think he made a mistake and his intentions weren't to cheat WeEx members. I think the law suit is last thing that we should do. We shouldn't work in rush and trying to make justice fast, we should make it as professionals in business do, patience in this situation is crucial, of course also finding personally Ukyo and punching him is not solution. Please treat him as a partner in negotiations with liquidity issues, and try to find solution win/win. As you said that we'll wait until end of this week. After all we have to follow with below plan: 1) Choose mediator whom would commucate with Greame on behalf of creditors to provide us clear and transparent current status (should be choosed via voting, I propose to candidature of ff69, blastbob, Tyrion70, Lophie of course if they'll agree for that function) - deadline (end of W48/2013) 2) Mediator and we should find as many creditors as possible in similiar situation and put them together into one group + verify their IDs and reliability (end of W49/2013) 3) Mediator contact with Ukyo and ask for proof of reliability - Ukyo will have a time until end of W50 4) Depending on reply from Ukyo we should see two scenarios a. Ukyo will show the funds until end of W51 - then he has to transfer BTC until end of W52 (end of story - everyone happy) b. Ukyo won't prove his funds, deadline until end of W51 => proceed to point 5) 5) Clear statement from Ukyo side - what exacly happened with our BTC until end of W52 (if don't proceed to point 7) 6) How many coins of required sum he has? Maybe we could start negotiations to retreive partially our BTC from WeEx e.g. 70% of BTC (has to be decided by vote) - if we won't find any agreement satisfying both sides we have to proceed to next point - deadline end of W01/2014 7) Hire lawyer and ask for representing us as a creditors community (someone from Australia has to do it - mediator has to find out someone) until end of W02/2014 What do you think? Any suggestions? +1 Agree!!! |
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Going to update the list soon. The toll reached a million dollars. His personal information will be posted very soon here.
If we have a crime committed in excess of $1 million (US, Australian or Cdn for that matter), we have something newsworthy that police, prosecutors, judges and the media will be interested in. Bitcoin is front page news now and this is too. It is ultimately good for people to know that bitcoin is not crime-proof and that criminals will be brought to justice - by due process - in the bitcoin world also. if UKYO going to jail, I might really never see my BTC again...the thing is I hope he can facing this problem, and come here to discuss with us ,tell us what did he do with our coins and the loans, and how much he can cover to pay back...things should be negotiate with a solution... But up to today, he just simply disappear ,I think this only will making things worse !! |
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Going to update the list soon. The toll reached a million dollars. His personal information will be posted very soon here.
I got 17782 shares of UKYO loan ,which is equal 177.82 BTC, and Also nearly 20 BTC stuck in WeEx...I hope we can do something for that issue. |
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I txtd Alberto(Labcoin phone #) saying I was an Angel Investor and a Chinese friend referred me his contact info I want to invest in ASIC companies, and he replied with "What's your name?"
He didn't respond after that
 this guy must driving lamborgini and holding beauty with money and BTC come from those investors of LABCOIN. |
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Skype voice.
Note I'm off on my travels now - will come back for more excitement soon. Heh.
Enjoy your trip...Hopefully that He can sort out this problem asap ...~! |
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