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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS] DataCoins (Price Updated due to difficulty growth), 0.001 BTC/Datacoin on: November 21, 2013, 01:23:32 PM
bump please
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Economics on Yacoin YAC on: November 21, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
yacoin is the stupidest name i ever heard

Your messages are really aggressive, take it easy  Smiley
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (just launched) on: November 21, 2013, 10:44:45 AM
Just clarifying my message about block generation rate. Now it's 2.4 blocks per minute, still decreasing - hopefully in 1-2 days we will see 1 block per minute as per network specifications. Anyway it is pretty fast coin, and big number of confirmations for maturing should be good for storage concept.
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas! on: November 21, 2013, 08:51:35 AM
Hopefully oocook5u comes to DTC threads today and answers some questions.
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: VGA mining on: November 21, 2013, 08:27:39 AM
Is it laptop video card?
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Datacoin Logo Contest! on: November 21, 2013, 06:35:46 AM
Bump! Don't forget about contest! Smiley
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas! on: November 21, 2013, 06:33:55 AM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  Grin (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!


Thanks!

I also wonder if having some option to remove data at some point would be a good idea, if whomever added it so chooses.  May help if this gets widely used at at some point and the burden becomes great as well. Not sure if this is feasible, but of course some data will become obsolete over time.


In regards to the data removal, what could be done, is that the DTC account that added would have to pay a subscription of sorts, to keep the data in the blockchain, such as 0.0000001 DTC per block or some other interval. This would ensure that it isn't just useless information being added. And to keep useful data in the chian there should be a lottery of sorts, for the most accessed/downloaded blocks, giving them a portion of the mined DTCs. I understand there may be potential abuse by the posters continually accessing a block to give themselves a higher chance of winning the lottery, but one could simply make a hashcheck of the ip looking to access the block, and only give them a point if it is the first access of the block.

DJ4gDVPkWNgRP1sGrFrwA5p7jdbRbHEFQZ

Very interesting, but seems to be difficult to implement
Sent coins!
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (just launched) on: November 21, 2013, 06:31:42 AM
@tubbyjr

Just now:
    "blocks" : 30334,
    "chainspermin" : 67,
    "chainsperday" : 892.56382404,



Whoa, what are you using!?

On Amazon 32-CPU instance numbers look like
 "blocks" : 31574,
    "chainspermin" : 195,
    "chainsperday" : 2384.43221241,

By the way, 1240 blocks generated in 8 hours. Generation speed at 1st day seemed to be ~8x from normal, now it is less than 3x and still going to normal speed.
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (just launched) on: November 20, 2013, 09:51:35 PM
Also was there a premine on this?
I started mining when there were 10 blocks and nearly 200 coins, you can check that via getting TX ids.
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas! on: November 20, 2013, 08:32:16 PM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  Grin (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!


Thanks!

I also wonder if having some option to remove data at some point would be a good idea, if whomever added it so chooses.  May help if this gets widely used at at some point and the burden becomes great as well. Not sure if this is feasible, but of course some data will become obsolete over time.

This is good idea, but I don't know if there is a possibility to delete any info from blockchain. Solution can be splitting it into smaller parts that will be stored on computers: 1000 copies of one part on 1000 computer, etc etc
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (just launched) on: November 20, 2013, 08:06:47 PM
So block reward is 15? That's how much I got on last block.

Block reward going lower and lower, difficulty increasing... soon it will be so hard to solomine. I hope there will be a pool for that, especially because we also have pools for XPM with similar algo
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (just launched) on: November 20, 2013, 05:53:03 PM
Something is not right ... One block I found is "immature" for 10 hours and has only 1 confirmation ... Another one was already OK and then turned to "immature" again ( has 1000 confirmations! )
sometimes orphans are showed in such a way, so you need to restart wallet. i think it is because of adopting network: hashpower is fluctuating, and such issues were faced on early stage of many coins. Datacoin needs more hashpower and more stability
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (just launched) on: November 20, 2013, 04:38:17 PM
Anyone selling? Ready to buy 50K DTC for 0.02BTC.

lol, I think no one has such amount...total 450K generated still, and generation speed is decreasing, leading to ~20-25K per day. maybe you made a mistake and wanted to offer 0.02 BTC for 50 DTC? Smiley
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas! on: November 20, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
Should add PoS, PoS would encourage more nodes to stay up 24-7 and supply the needed bandwidth, it looks like this chain could be very very large. If would also encourage older cpus to run nodes for income.

and of course contact some of the torrent sites and work with them for easy implementation

D5kXcUMUTZ56ctCiRLBMd5w3JUviaMe3fP

It was  obvious - why anyone didn't offer it yet?  Grin (me too, lol)
Additional DTC for you for this suggestion!
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (just launched) on: November 20, 2013, 03:30:40 PM
@maxsolc:  

I agree with you, Datacoin should rather be compared to VPS services.  I checked around and I see roughly 1BTC per TB per month.  So say over 5 years about 60 BTC for 1 TB storage.

You get 20kb storage for 1 DTC (hard coded).  So 50 million DTC to store 1 TB.  

Therefore 1 DTC = 60BTC/50 000 000 = 0.0000012 BTC

Or 1 BTC = 833 333 DTC

Don't get me wrong - I love this coin because it has real value.  It is backed by file storage (and some bandwidth), which is worth something.  The assets of the p2p network are bandwidth, file storage and parallel processing.  Coins which monetize these assets automatically have value and should be successful.  The other coin I like is Gridcoin, which offers BOINC processing.

@oocook5u:  

I understand messaging will be implemented in Bitcoin 0.9.  The messages will be pruned immediately, so there will be no bloat to the blockchain.  Datacoin will therefore have messaging, like all other alts who use or inherit the changes to the Bitcoin client.





It's not correct to compare its price with VPS in such way Smiley in case of VPS one user pays for his own storage. In case of Datacoin, roughly speaking, one user pays to all other members of active DTC community. I don't want this coin to be pump-and-dump, because it will lead to complete failure of such great idea. But DTC needs some real value for those who gives their place for storage. Not millions or thousands dollars, but not cents.
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DTC] Datacoin - Brainstorming Giveaway - Get coins for sharing ideas! on: November 20, 2013, 02:19:01 PM
For larger data files, rather than increasing the size limit per block, have some sort of protocol that would allow 128kb divisions of the file to be made and spread over the blockchain that way. Of course something would need to be done to clearly order and connect those blocks of data. One could for example make several 128kb RAR divisions, but something at least needs to be implemented to connect the blocks.

One way would be to just include header data along with your payload. Eg. If you were to upload a 500kb file, the client could break it up into 127k chunks. Then attach a 1kb header along with each one. It's basically just a linked list where each data package is an item. The client can then get the address of the next message as it reads the current one. So like:

msg1:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg2_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg2:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg3_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg3:
  header:
    next_msg: {msg4_location}
  data:
     {127k_of_data}

msg4:
  header:
    next_msg: {NONE}
  data:
     {119k_of_data}

Ideally there should be some sort of standard so that different clients could understand how each other are adding data to the network. The system could support multiple data storage methods as long as info about which method was being used was also included in the header of a message.

Very good idea! Please post your wallet to receive your DTC (with some additional coins, not 5 Wink )
edited: found it at 1st page, sent coins.

Also thanks to lengfeng847, but can you explain point 2 ?
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Presenting Datacoin to Chinese section! Rewarding translators on: November 20, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
Datacoin should be presented to wide Chinese audience, they always worry about Internet censorship, so storage feature of this coin may interest Chinese. If you translate OP post in Datacoin topic and post it into Chinese section, you'll get a reward in Datacoins!  Smiley
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm still trying to find a coin that I can focus on on: November 20, 2013, 10:46:39 AM
Look on Datacoin. Maybe not just for mining\trading, but look into its features if you're developer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325735.0
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Datacoin Logo Contest! on: November 20, 2013, 10:16:04 AM

Nothing better than uploading the D. Wink

I think we should definitely wait for a couple days worth of submissions though; really like a couple so far but I'd reserve judgment until we get a few more.

Agree with you, no need to hurry with that

I will also add +250 DTC for the best logo. Let's wait a week (until Nov 25) before making any decisions.

Agree with you - 5 days more is enough to post several cool ideas. And I remind that I'll send additional DTC to everyone who posted good logos here, not only to winner (though he'll get the biggest prize  Smiley )
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (just launched) on: November 20, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
I see this coin as having huge potential, probably none monetarily for a while, but in terms of informational value, it supercedes any coin to date. Wikileaks could have a huge use for this coin, having whistleblowers post leaks through Datacoin, ensuring anonimity on leakers side, along with the full integrity of the information. Once information of value starts coming in, there will be some serious monetary value to this coin. I'll be looking to get all machines I know running on it!

Yes. Does anyone have possibility to post news on large cryptocurrencies or just IT sites? I created article in big Russian IT community, maybe someone will be interested for using this storage. But it is only Russian, not worldwide. If required, I can translate that post, or anyone other who writes good technical articles can write it and post it to other site.
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