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201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: August 03, 2018, 12:31:31 PM
I believe in Bitcoin. This is the most important coin and not one altcoin can not overtake it. Bitcoin Cash is an interesting project, But I do not have confidence in it.
If you believe in Bitcoin the way Satoshi envisioned it with peer to peer payment then it is Bitcoin Cash.
If you believe in Bitcoin the way scammy Banks see it with them being the 3rd party in between with Lightning network the bitcoin is for you.



probably best to follow this Robin hood

has wise knowledge methinks. If you have any info on Robin, anyone, that would be great
@notbatman

if we buy bcash and it fails at least we can find this person, need to find out if Robin,Hood is telling the truth,


@Robin,Hood - hope you understand



when all else fails use bitcoin legacy address




202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 03, 2018, 12:26:46 PM
why is BCH collapsing ?

#bcashcivilwar
203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2018, 12:08:14 PM
There is even tools now for people to learn liberal troll speak

are they that pervasive

 Grin Grin Grin





Convenient for bitcoin users on twitter to use against socialist coin peddlers as well.

204  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2018, 04:11:54 AM

It was the best, no one here cared who won, but it has been funny

The trolls have been outstanding, brilliant, funny, hilarious.

The World's Greatest Troll: the Humor of Donald Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzkBfTfiXS0&feature=youtu.be


205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2018, 01:16:05 AM
The rally is being driven by an EMA crossing on the daily.  I can't really see what will drive it from here.  
The last time we crossed was in April when we went from $7.8k then ran out of steam at $9.9k.
On that basis we might make it as high as ~$8.5k on this rally.  
not bad Hairy
not bad
INDEED... !!!! LOL...!!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Did the guy in the $8500 suit have anything to do with this?

206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffkauflin/2018/08/01/tricks-of-a-crypto-trader-meet-asias-hottest-crypto-hedge-fund/
FBG’s approach has three pillars: Invest like a venture capitalist in initial coin offerings (ICOs), trade on news and events by moving in and out of tokens rapidly and, critically, exploit insider relationships and marketing hype to ensure profitability. The firm’s rise speaks volumes about the anything-goes world of cryptocurrencies, where the stated ideals of democratization are a joke and being an insider is the surest path to riches.

Sure people have to make a living, but does anyone really aspire to live like that?  Let's get rich by: 1) watching manipulation, 2) making quick moves because we know there is manipulation and 3) attempting our own no holds bar manipulation(s) (at least as much as we can get away with).

I understand that people do this, and want to live like this, yet personally, I would rather leave that ratt's race approach to others.... and to attempt to live in a more relaxed manner.

Wall observer
207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2018, 11:05:21 PM
Quote
Could the $400 Million Liquidation have been an elaborate whale trick to create synthetic Put option for 0 premium abusing OkEX socialized loss and liquidation system ?
Imagine this :
• With one account, accumulate little by little a large long position, filling the asks of multiple of your own other accounts in order to stay discreet on the leaderboard. You are then hedged with both Long and Short positions at the exact same price.
~some conspiracy~
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/93k2h9/could_the_400_million_liquidation_have_been_an
~some conspiracy~
Could rock bitcoin markets any thoughts?


Do we get to see who was working with Star Xu

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-announces-data-breach-threatens-anonymity-users-n896686?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2018, 09:15:29 PM
Quote
Could the $400 Million Liquidation have been an elaborate whale trick to create synthetic Put option for 0 premium abusing OkEX socialized loss and liquidation system ?
Imagine this :
• With one account, accumulate little by little a large long position, filling the asks of multiple of your own other accounts in order to stay discreet on the leaderboard. You are then hedged with both Long and Short positions at the exact same price.
• Once you are big enough, push the leverage to the max on the one big position by withdrawing BTC and transfering them to your hedge short accounts.
• Eventually, the over-leveraged big position get liquidated on next significant move down. Obviously since the position is so big, the order at bankruptcy price stays unfilled, especially since when BTC dumps, it dumps fast.
• Starting from there, you are left with your accounts on short position. Two things can happen :
   * The price go back up to your liquidation wall. Then before it gets eaten, you buy into it with your shorts. You then exit all your positions at breakeven (minus transaction fees) since the profit from your short is then at the same price than your bankruptcy price on your long.
   * The price go down : that's when it gets interesting. Your short keep giving you profit while the loss you were supposed to have with your long hedge is paid with socialized loss (since you can't lose more than what you have on one account) in the form on an unfilled liquidation, and the difference between the liquidation price and the settlement price being paid by socializing losses/insurance funds.
So in short, if someone did this, he would profit as long as BTC goes below 8020 (the wall's liquidation price), and if BTC goes over that he loses 0 (only transaction fees).
So basically a put option, except if someone really did this, he would have paid 0 premium for them.
Am I being conspirationist here or could this have been possible ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/93k2h9/could_the_400_million_liquidation_have_been_an
Yeah we know how this works, we know who works it too, you would also need a team of shills to assist you in your industry
they will not see what is going to happen until it is on their doorstep
do not look behind you, thats how close it is  Grin

I imagine for these corrupt schmucks its like that trapped feeling you get when you think should i run or will that expose me


Could rock bitcoin markets any thoughts?

 better than nazi pics @infofront




Future proves past  Grin
209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2018, 09:00:34 PM
Quote
Could the $400 Million Liquidation have been an elaborate whale trick to create synthetic Put option for 0 premium abusing OkEX socialized loss and liquidation system ?

Imagine this :

• With one account, accumulate little by little a large long position, filling the asks of multiple of your own other accounts in order to stay discreet on the leaderboard. You are then hedged with both Long and Short positions at the exact same price.
• Once you are big enough, push the leverage to the max on the one big position by withdrawing BTC and transfering them to your hedge short accounts.
• Eventually, the over-leveraged big position get liquidated on next significant move down. Obviously since the position is so big, the order at bankruptcy price stays unfilled, especially since when BTC dumps, it dumps fast.
• Starting from there, you are left with your accounts on short position. Two things can happen :
   * The price go back up to your liquidation wall. Then before it gets eaten, you buy into it with your shorts. You then exit all your positions at breakeven (minus transaction fees) since the profit from your short is then at the same price than your bankruptcy price on your long.
   * The price go down : that's when it gets interesting. Your short keep giving you profit while the loss you were supposed to have with your long hedge is paid with socialized loss (since you can't lose more than what you have on one account) in the form on an unfilled liquidation, and the difference between the liquidation price and the settlement price being paid by socializing losses/insurance funds.

So in short, if someone did this, he would profit as long as BTC goes below 8020 (the wall's liquidation price), and if BTC goes over that he loses 0 (only transaction fees).

So basically a put option, except if someone really did this, he would have paid 0 premium for them.

Am I being conspirationist here or could this have been possible ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/93k2h9/could_the_400_million_liquidation_have_been_an


Yeah we know how this works, we know who works it too, you would also need a team of shills to assist you in your industry

they will not see what is going to happen until it is on their doorstep

do not look behind you, thats how close it is  Grin


I imagine for these corrupt schmucks its like that trapped feeling you get when you think should i run or will that expose me

210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All things considered Brock Pierce, et al.! [w/POLL] on: August 01, 2018, 07:18:44 PM
Bruno, a couple of on topic posts of mine have been deleted in different threads where I called Brock Pierce a pedophile. Do you think the forum is protecting this fucking pervert for some reason?
I know for a fact this is true.  He has managed to get some hook inside the admin here and they 'cleanse' various things related to pedos.  Not sure how that happened.  But let's just say I know it did happen.

There be monsters here, we found them all.

They are being hunted.

Look for missing members in the next few weeks.


33 (22.9%) Support Brock - Who were Brock's friends on  the Bitcoin Foundation

if members are saying the deep state run child sex rings, then why is the CIA and Council for Foreign Relations talking to Gavin Andreeeesssssseeeen...

What did the CIA have over Bitcoin Foundation Members, we know how the CIA operate

So felony charge on Roger Ver - time to send out their little angel investor to rinse and repeat. Invest, tell them its ok, coins go missing, then run

What did they have on Brock Pierce.


Future proves past.
211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2018, 11:25:46 AM
The effects of bitcoin are about to go through a financial storm

1) US federal Reserve under attack from Potus
2) FISA document with serious consequences on trade agreements
3) 40000 indictments that will affect this thread


No TA charts can work this one out.  Grin

Interesting politics in the USA, brainwashed human, might cause harm to others, eliminate, falling down, needs to be removed

212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2018, 12:48:36 AM


Location Found

Bitcoin moving north

Re location imminent
213  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2018, 11:47:41 PM
Bill Clinton is a rapist.
yeah that video of him bragging about grabbing them by the pussy
was pretty degrading....
...oh wait a minute, I'm all confused. That was a different POTUS ...my bad....
NSFW
I wonder who taught men to grab girls by the pussy...is it still OK? Grin

Amazing who believes the lies, especially the ones that tell you they are so smart
Miley Cyrus B#$ws Bill Clinton?


I heard through the bitvine (made that up) that Donald Trump is endorsing a new MLM where the downline is paid with...wait for it...bitcoins. Notice that Double Trouble and Donald Trump have the same initials.
Here's my "for real" take on this. I think we should concentrate our creativeness on other worthwhile endeavors that don't include sex, gambling (risk taking), drugs, etc.--just plain ole commerce. After the proverbial ball gets rollin', the before mentions are welcome to join the crowd along with religious and political concerns.
I'm not tryin' to police anything, it's just that I have a lot at stake. The 1.16 BTC I have in my hand tooled leather wallet is drivin' me crazy because I'm not sure how much of it to spend and how much of it to save as an investment.

The Clinton Initiative

Is Trump going to support Bitcoin?
Would be nice to know. Hopefully on topic @infofront

Has all Clinton's connections already be found, as well as connections to bitcoin, is this the reason for market movements?
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 31, 2018, 11:37:38 PM
Bitcoin is better than Bitcoin Cash. They have a difference in sustainability. It is much easier to break the work of Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin has more support, it is much more successful now and investing in it is safer. Use bitcoin as a means of payment is also better than bitcoin cash
And how exactly?
You mean Satoshi was so bad at coding a bunch of centralized tech bureaucrats had to come and deviate away from his work and forcefully implement Lightning because it is so good.
No, Satoshies version (BTH) is and will remain better as that overly complex LN evil shit Bankers think Bitcoin should have or need.
Paid shill
Did you know you can still use bitcoin legacy addressees
and segwit and lightning cannot touch them, see the paid shill tell a lie
bcashers know this lie as well
Bitcoin v (some shitcoin) no debate at all really
Future Proves past  Wink

Check all the paid shills before the last post above


Who are the shills, see how they work

Future Proves past  Wink
215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2018, 09:33:52 PM
Bill Clinton is a rapist.
yeah that video of him bragging about grabbing them by the pussy
was pretty degrading....

...oh wait a minute, I'm all confused. That was a different POTUS ...my bad....

NSFW

I wonder who taught men to grab girls by the pussy...is it still OK? Grin



Amazing who believes the lies, especially the ones that tell you they are so smart

Miley Cyrus B#$ws Bill Clinton?





I heard through the bitvine (made that up) that Donald Trump is endorsing a new MLM where the downline is paid with...wait for it...bitcoins. Notice that Double Trouble and Donald Trump have the same initials.

Here's my "for real" take on this. I think we should concentrate our creativeness on other worthwhile endeavors that don't include sex, gambling (risk taking), drugs, etc.--just plain ole commerce. After the proverbial ball gets rollin', the before mentions are welcome to join the crowd along with religious and political concerns.

I'm not tryin' to police anything, it's just that I have a lot at stake. The 1.16 BTC I have in my hand tooled leather wallet is drivin' me crazy because I'm not sure how much of it to spend and how much of it to save as an investment.




The Clinton Initiative




Is Trump going to support Bitcoin?



Would be nice to know.


Hopefully on topic @infofront


216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2018, 09:02:06 PM
Im a bit uncertain about tomorrow, the 1st August. For quite some time, I was believing it would spike up like it had in 2017, but 2017 was a bullish year. What do you think? Buy now or wait more?
Happy b-day b-cash.  You will be one year old, and some folks might find it good to cash out of you in order to experience long term, rather than short term capital gains, perhaps?
If I was a big risk taker I'd go all in bcash right now, then dump when Jbear shows up.  Tongue
DO NOT be a risk taker  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

its how Roger works

when the ship is sinking, one last pump then dump

So many times before Roger has done this, you all see it.

interesting markets with bitcoin, its like bears have figured out the bulls, or is it the other way around
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 31, 2018, 08:33:15 PM
Tucker gives BCH

https://youtu.be/fsLuC0Bl1-o


Tuck tuck tuck


Only took one minute
http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/01/29/jeffrey-a-tucker-against-libertarian-brutalism/
http://www.libertypulse.com/article/jeffrey-tucker-in-many-ways-corrupt-government-is-better-than-good-government/

https://iea.org.uk/is-government-dr-jekyll-or-mr-hyde/

Another Roger Ver socialist

Who next Cortez


Socialists love centralization

Future proves past


218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 31, 2018, 08:29:42 PM
Bitcoin is better than Bitcoin Cash. They have a difference in sustainability. It is much easier to break the work of Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin has more support, it is much more successful now and investing in it is safer. Use bitcoin as a means of payment is also better than bitcoin cash
And how exactly?
You mean Satoshi was so bad at coding a bunch of centralized tech bureaucrats had to come and deviate away from his work and forcefully implement Lightning because it is so good.
No, Satoshies version (BTH) is and will remain better as that overly complex LN evil shit Bankers think Bitcoin should have or need.


Paid shill

Did you know you can still use bitcoin legacy addressees

and segwit and lightning cannot touch them, see the paid shill tell a lie

bcashers know this lie as well

Bitcoin v (some shitcoin) no debate at all really
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 31, 2018, 07:44:53 AM
Bcash is such a joke.  Ver and Jihan the Epic Fail Whales can barely keep their rageforked shitcoin pumped to 10% of Bitcoin's value.

Now the motley crew of Bcashers are fighting with each other over what color their op_return bikeshed should be painted.

That's what happens when a self-selected group of people who don't understand the dangers+implications of controversial hard forks try and fail to emulate Bitcoin's decentralized governance.

Armchair devs like Frap.doc and Bcash Jesus making contradictory demands of Bcash's one or two actual devs is a recipe for disaster.  Bcash's socioeconomic majority is being fractured into bickering tribes...

Bcash Unlimited and Bcash Frappuchino coming soon.

#BcashCivilWar LOL

Bcash is the real Bcash Smiley  ~just sayin'

There was a message sent.

For some reason you did not follow through.

Is it time for another video and full transparency.

Future proves past   Grin

#BcashCivilWar

220  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies. on: July 28, 2018, 12:11:15 PM
In my opinion, there is no fraud in speculation. Speculation requires technology. If you buy encryption and then fall down, you should bear the responsibility of loss.

hmmmm Wink

Oh get it

Do not trust anyone, do not buy, do not blame the person your buying from.

As is with gold, if you buy gold and the gold is not gold, you should bear the responsibility

For example.

1) If Paul Vernon from Cryptsy Stole your coins, its your fault
2) If Roger Ver advises you Mt Gox is OK, it is your fault

got it

Future proves past  Wink
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