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281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 10:55:09 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-22/eu-parliament-study-central-bank-digital-currencies-will-reshape-competition-crypto

Private digital currencies are defined separately from central bank-issued digital currencies (CBDC), noting that the CBDCs differ by being based on a “conventional bilateral settlement with a trusted central party.”

A perhaps strange part of this article is that there is a presumption that bringing centralization to the table, will bring credibility to the crypto space - and the fact of the matter is that the main feature (rather than a bug) remains that bitcoin brings a lack of centralization, and therefore a lack of centralization is bitcoin's strength, rather than weakness.  Anyhow, some folks are likely to fall for this poor and diverted framing of the "problem" with crypto and to buy into centralized coins rather than into bitcoin, which will allow bitcoin's price to remain an actual good value, but only to those folks who really recognize the significant paradigm changing differentiating point of bitcoin.

Actually as we post here trump is attacking the federal reserve for starting to raise interest rates and inflation, who know how many times, over the last 100 years and always after giving everyone cheap credit to create bubbles.


When people see it
BOOOOOOOM!!! Exposed  Cool Cool Cool Cool
and their central controlled crypto

This is what gives bitcoin its strength, value and eventual world dominance

Web 3.0 will create the regulation by the people for the people

decentralized platforms overtaking the world

already fully underway

www.rsk.co

282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BEST ICO for 2018 on: July 23, 2018, 08:45:39 PM
what are general thoughts on RSK - rootstock ICO ?
is here a place to ask? talk about this ? just have a buy oppertunity ....
I am in any links
www.rsk.co
i don't know much just a project on top of BTC, but some guys with big crypto holdings sharing allocations with us and this would be the next.... i just wanna know if maybe some are following this as well, but my friend that i follow into everything involving crypto says we gonna buy few BTC into this so just trying to catch some extra info Smiley
I have been following this for years.

This is bitcoins smart contracts and fast payments.

The challenger to the centralized Ethereum platform
Based on Satoshi's original idea of pegging side-chains to bitcoin to further the blockchain and app development
waiting waiting waiting, years
yeah my friend said the same things .... he also followed this project very long , you buying RSK ?
yes very much so, points below
1) The commitment and development of this team is astounding
2) As well a big f#$k you to all Roger F#$kin Ver and his friends, Segwit and lightning attacks, big block debate in their attempt to kill bitcoin
3) And lastly the continuation and development of bitcoin (the only real truth machine) now with real world financial solutions
I’m following as wel only still not knowing how much BTC to drop in iT
Already sended few BTC’s but maybe thinking to buy little bit bigger.... Huh
Compare it to ethereum, neo, ripple, stellar, waves, these platforms are the model to compare with
RSK is linked to the bitcoin blockchain, like a gas for ether, or a lumen for stellar etc
and of course, only invest what you can afford (you just never know),
2btc (about 6000eth) to 4btc bitcoin invested in the ethereum ico at the time, made millionaires out of people (this is not bout money though)
This will ensure that the transparent nature of the blockchain prevails, this btc blockchain holds evidence of some very high criminals
offcourse not ,still thinking that i only have around 10-15 procent invested in a few alts @this moment
allways trying to keep minimum 80% in btc ....

Definitely, gotta work out what level you are comfortable at with alts, much higher is risky

alts are a great way to metaphorically mine bitcoin  Grin  helps the alt community too, good projects there when you find them

283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 08:23:20 PM
Check out this asshole



How can someone with so many degrees be so bad at math? There can only be one coin for the whole world and it's used like cash? How, 10 terabyte blocks? Asshat!

He's a walking bag of contradictions, that's for sure.

Actually, many of us agree that in the longer term, value is going to migrate towards the most sound of value, which will cause one currency to be dominant.. and so far the most likely of the "dominant coin" is bitcoin...

but on the other hand, since we live in a world with less than perfect information, it could take well over one hundred years for the masses to figure out which coin is the most sound, so in that regard, lesser value coins will continue to exist, just like snake oils salesmen continue to exist.. and there will likely be use cases for those less sound coins, too... because you cannot sell something as the most sound money, even snake oil, without some peeps using it. 

The Plan







Where are you Roger Ver
https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr

284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 23, 2018, 07:26:56 PM

A video from a nobody from a video from another nobody from Feb 8th. Thanks for the ‘update.’

Why do you spend all your time in the BCH thread? The efforts you putforth to sacrifice Bitcoin Cash are better put towards promoting BTC. Seems your scared.


Why do you spend all your time in the BCH thread?

1) I am making a list with some friends
2) A list of Roger and his associates, paid shills etc
3) Then they gonna get coins back, do not ask how.
4) BCH thread is where Roger can see it unfold.

Quite easy to spot the shills and we gonna have some fun there.




Liberty Reserve, Bitinstant, MtGox, Crytpsy oh it goes on, big list.

10000 btc in a wallet unmoved
100,000's btc stolen

I wonder what a real bounty of bitcoin would be worth for some treasure hunters

say they only realize it when and if BTC is worth $100,000 or maybe just $10000 btc each    Wink Wink Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

say those treasure hunters scavenge the depths of the Internet, Deep Web, The Blockchain for proof of those Billions of dollars in Bitcoin   Wink Wink Wink



Another thing Roger

Mr Taxman wants tax on my crypto, if I can prove my lost coins, I dont have to pay the tax

Imagine all the pain again those ex Users/Customers/Investors are going to go through at tax time when they realize this


for shits and giggles -  Angry Angry you F#$kin scumbag and ya paid off shills, crooks and rich associates  Shocked Shocked

the continued damage you do to everyone with your operations out in the open, you do realize the pain you causing
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 23, 2018, 06:37:04 PM
Bcash on fire,

bcashers running around with head on fire

bcash being dumped


Alex Jones calls out Roger Ver

  Grin Grin Grin Grin


Yeah Roger bullshit getting called out, going ballistic


Roger Ver on Alex Jones (Super Funny!!!!)
https://youtu.be/UeGhG3Z_tsc?t=1140


this was the best

I know who put bcash up 25%
But who put it down by 25%?  Wink

286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 06:34:49 PM
Bcash on fire,

bcashers running around with head on fire

bcash being dumped


Alex Jones calls out Roger Ver

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Yeah Roger bullshit getting called out, going ballistic


Roger Ver on Alex Jones (Super Funny!!!!)
https://youtu.be/UeGhG3Z_tsc?t=1140

287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 06:24:51 PM
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That's Rogers head.

My fav
288  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 12:25:53 PM
In old news irrelevances, the zombies have made some pdfs about regulations
https://g20.org/sites/default/files/media/communique-_fmcbg_july.pdf
http://www.fsb.org/wp-content/uploads/P160718-1.pdf
https://www.finextra.com/finextra-downloads/newsdocs/ipol_stu.pdf
and the other congressional hearing is also just about worth a repost https://youtu.be/_O9s4fuzvbQ?t=15m57s

meanwhile the train needs a bit of tarting up before normal service can be resumed



Interesting read thanks

FAFT standards for crypto

At  the  same  time,  central  banks  are  reviewing  how  to  improve  and modernise existing central bank operated payment systems. Central banks can encourage and catalyse improvements to current arrangements, as has happened recently in the field of faster payments.

However, responding directly to the challenge with a central bank digital currency
(CBDC) would be an entry into uncharted territory


..."The  word  that  best  defines  the  current  state  of  FinTech  services  is  ‘change’. "... Grin Grin try Web 3.0




We see how there strategy works after this guy trump is through with them, always fun watching this guy tear up some old school monopolies


As mentioned by the chairman above develop a new framework, may mean no regulation at all - Web 3.0, not base done the old way

fireworks

Interview starts straight away
https://youtu.be/y6ZQRm3bGlY?t=73
289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 11:10:55 AM


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-22/eu-parliament-study-central-bank-digital-currencies-will-reshape-competition-crypto


Private digital currencies are defined separately from central bank-issued digital currencies (CBDC), noting that the CBDCs differ by being based on a “conventional bilateral settlement with a trusted central party.”

290  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 08:21:28 AM
I think this is off topic but here goes.
cannot tell if this is real or not
Russian Scientists announce historic discovery
https://geopolitics.co/2016/07/14/russian-scientists-announce-historic-discovery-rendering-the-entire-system-obsolete/
if so curious as to how this will affect btc markets - obsolete or unique
specifically involving lead into gold



https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/archaeology/doubts-raised-over-russian-treasure-ship/news-story/2b819657eb234a90247cb18e9519b193

Doubts raised over Russian treasure ship with $190 billion in gold


funny world  Grin
291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune on: July 23, 2018, 07:24:29 AM
For anyone who would like a primer on what is already known about Satoshi, we recently put out an article compiling the sources of all (most) of his online writings:

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-1/

Is there anything in there about how Satoshi could be a team?

That would mean you excluded something from your suspects.

Though its something of a spoiler, I was planning on talking about that in article 3/3 of the series. I can think of 3 main team ideas that could have comprised Satoshi thus far. I think this is the most likely of cases, as it appears at the very least that whoever penned the whitepaper was different from whoever did the brunt of the posts on this forum.

Anything about Bruce Wagner the pedophile and his exposure of Satoshi to the media. Just after that Satoshi goes missing.

What about Craig, Roger and Gavin conspiring against Satoshi's idea of 1mb blocks

ooohhh!!!
Gavin talking to the CIA and CIA knowing Roger having a federal charge over his head that could be used for bribing  Wink

Thanks for the tidbits! Will take a look at all of that.

Very curious, hate to be disappointed.

We will do our best, sir!



Great work, outstanding congratulations, recommended must read for anyone.


Follow the threads about Wikileaks, Bruce and the Gavin/CIA, focus on the support around Craig Wright, Roger Ver, Gavin Andreeessseeennn

Then when you see all the projects the above have supported, then broke, fixed, hacked and coins lost
Liberty Reserve, bitinstant, butterfly labs, KNC miner, Mtgox, Cryptsy, Bcash etc etc etc - literal rabbit hole, well they only want death to bitcoin, the blockchain holds all their illegal transactions


Beware the paid shills, spooks and double/triple accounts



Lastly so as to follow Satoshi
cypherpunks mailing list conversations with Julian Assange
Nick Zsabo, @BitcoinFX member here has interesting reads as well
ooohh and the bitcoin blockchain they all wrote on
https://bitcoinstrings.com/all



What account did Assange have on this forum (logical for a hacker who gets in on bitcoin to join), that is the secret

Assange applied for Legal Asylum, 6 months after Satoshi disappeared, effectively both founders of the 2 biggest libertarian movements of 2011 gone


never forget though you are a satoshi
a unit of a State Authority of Totalitarian control by Oligarchs using a System of Hierarchical Institutions

Often referred to as WE ARE SATOSHI

basic cryptography - first thing young code breakers learn
292  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi is Back, suggests Fortune on: July 23, 2018, 06:33:15 AM
For anyone who would like a primer on what is already known about Satoshi, we recently put out an article compiling the sources of all (most) of his online writings:

https://coinclarity.com/who-is-satoshi-part-1/

Next week we'll do an article on people who are suspected to be him but probably aren't, and the next week we'll put out an article about people (or persons) who could still possibly be him.

I know this is self-promotion but its entirely relevant to the topic at hand.

Is there anything in there about how Satoshi could be a team?

That would mean you excluded something from your suspects.




Anything about Bruce Wagner the pedophile and his exposure of Satoshi to the media. Just after that Satoshi goes missing.


What about Craig, Roger and Gavin conspiring against Satoshi's idea of 1mb blocks

ooohhh!!!
Gavin talking to the CIA and CIA knowing Roger having a federal charge over his head that could be used for bribing  Wink



Anything from the forums about that one in the article.

Very curious, hate to be disappointed.
293  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 05:58:13 AM
..."The thing that preppers are preparing for will never come."... - which ones. the preppers that believe trump will stop it?
Catastrophic simultaneous failure and break down of societal institutions. It could happen of course. I'm not saying it wont. I'm just saying that my best guess is that it will either be a slow erosion and not a catastrophic event or that projects like ours will save the day.
Hey you know ever since you linked that video about QAnon I've been keeping it in the back of my mind and looking to see how well current events match up with that narrative. You know, it's just been part of my general consciousness since I watched it. And I have to say that I have been quite surprised by how well the news seems to be playing out exactly the narrative put forward in that video. Particularly with this record of texts between these 2 FBI agents and the terrible optics for the FBI that came out of that hearing. And this thing with these tweets from this pedophile director james gunn who was responsible for one of the only franchises that is actually successful for the culture weapon known as Disney corporation. Kinda interesting.
Remember its not the video running the narrative
Its the policies
Human trafficking
Tax
Immigration
Health
Banking
Trade
The breakup of the New World Order global monopolies under George Bush the first over 40 years ago and more
Now, as I said before, the storm will arrive when trump goes after the US federal reserve
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/trump-poised-to-take-control-of-the-federal-reserve.html
The shills, spooks and slaves to the media are being exposed daily by trumps Qanon fans
They are teaching everyone how to expose these corrupt f#$kers, not to tell anyone, but make a list for some reason
Q is basically just a NeoCon cheerleader/disinfo agent.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/pro-trump-conspiracy-monger-qanon-calls-for-regime-change-in-iran/244686/

I know that, the patriots believe something else, but the tools given out are working
If you read the Q posts you will understand how they know who are the shills, spooks and slaves are


Example below

How a patriot above sees the world

If they read the article they would call them Shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus a NeoCon, more than that they know he supports it or is bribed but mostly corrupt against the people

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/how-australia-compares-in-the-growing-race-to-manipulate-social-media/news-story/d21152c48d90922b5865c824322ec198



Shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus

Classic the old University Professor/Scientist/Intelligence agency told me
then the SAFE and SECURE and FEAR rhetoric routine

and BOOOM!!!  Cool Cool Cool

instant propaganda



294  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: July 23, 2018, 05:35:17 AM

Wex/ Btc-e and this thread have gone "afk" since my last post. Coincidence ? Roll Eyes
Gleb ? Spoetnoob ?? Cryptsy assholes Huh
Speak up or forever hold your peace. Tongue



Yeah aint got much to say have they



All these current associates from cryptsy still on the board








Time to release all the information, no more games, (sick f$%ks playing with peoples lives) +++

295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 23, 2018, 05:30:14 AM
BOOM!

Now I can go to bed and dream Smiley

Yes indeed. I was just about to head off to bed myself and saw your comment last thing. Thanks for that.

How did the talk go with Craig, he bought some more coins did he, or was it roger

we do see all


When moon?
296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 04:51:07 AM
BOOM!

Now I can go to bed and dream Smiley

Yes indeed. I was just about to head off to bed myself and saw your comment last thing. Thanks for that.

How did the talk go with Craig, he bought some more coins did he, or was it roger

we do see all


When moon?

wonder where the dr, rog is Today at 03:20:54
 
297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 04:47:35 AM
..."The thing that preppers are preparing for will never come."... - which ones. the preppers that believe trump will stop it?

Catastrophic simultaneous failure and break down of societal institutions. It could happen of course. I'm not saying it wont. I'm just saying that my best guess is that it will either be a slow erosion and not a catastrophic event or that projects like ours will save the day.

Hey you know ever since you linked that video about QAnon I've been keeping it in the back of my mind and looking to see how well current events match up with that narrative. You know, it's just been part of my general consciousness since I watched it. And I have to say that I have been quite surprised by how well the news seems to be playing out exactly the narrative put forward in that video. Particularly with this record of texts between these 2 FBI agents and the terrible optics for the FBI that came out of that hearing. And this thing with these tweets from this pedophile director james gunn who was responsible for one of the only franchises that is actually successful for the culture weapon known as Disney corporation. Kinda interesting.

Remember its not the video running the narrative

Its the policies

Human trafficking
Tax
Immigration
Health
Banking
Trade


The breakup of the New World Order global monopolies under George Bush the first over 40 years ago and more
Now, as I said before, the storm will arrive when trump goes after the US federal reserve

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/trump-poised-to-take-control-of-the-federal-reserve.html


The shills, spooks and slaves to the media are being exposed daily by trumps Qanon fans

They are teaching everyone how to expose these corrupt f#$kers, not to tell anyone, but make a list for some reason
298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 03:58:22 AM
What would a Reset look like?
Why a Reset?
How long is the Reset?
Who would know?
Who would have control?
Would it be Fiat or Crypto?
What happens to debt?

Well you can roughly break it into three categories. Inflation, deflation or stagflation. First you can rough guesses as to what each of those would look like. And as a separate exercise you can make rough guesses as to how likely each one is.

Personally my vote is for stagflation. If you want an idea of what that looks like look at Japan for the last 2 decades. Decreasing wages, increasing cost of living. Zombie corporations that gradually become more and more like the DMV but never go away and never allow new better competition to enter. Add in some crumbling infrastructure and some social unrest. Imagine racial tensions getting worse and worse. And the heavy hand of the police state using racial tensions as a justification to take more and more liberties away. Imagine the Western countries slowly becoming, in a totally predictable fashion, the third world shit holes that they invited all their migrants and refugees from.

The rich will be fine, of course. They will have enclaves. And with any luck we will be them and they will be us. Eventually the brainiacs will get AI properly figured out and there will be a great culling.

There will never be a big "event". The thing that preppers are preparing for will never come. It will be the proverbial frog in the boiling water. Of course it will. How would THEY benefit from a catastrophe? Maybe they could but it would be far too risky.

That or maybe the future is, in fact, bright because of this and other technologies and social movements like it.


That's the New World Order scenario, you got that pinned down well


What would the Reset look like if it was not the New World Order?
Why would this word be buried global financial collapse with shit posting
Why every time this word global financial collapse omitted in re posts?
Who would want the posts buried?
Why is media/forums/social networks not talking about the storm, the reset, the global financial collapse?


 Grin Grin Grin Grin

..."The thing that preppers are preparing for will never come."... - which ones. the preppers that believe trump will stop it?

299  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 23, 2018, 03:00:53 AM
Wow, this is some breakout...

Completely out of nowhere.

Just to go all conspiracy here, but very coincidental the same time as posts were about a global financial collapse

had something to do with earlier posts about Craig Wright, nah couldn't be

luv a good conspiracy  Wink



Furthermore,

What would a Reset look like?
Why a Reset?
How long is the Reset?
Who would know?
Who would have control?
Would it be Fiat or Crypto?
What happens to debt?
300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 23, 2018, 02:42:14 AM
Yeah, cause the guy in $8500 suit is going to listen to you. Come on!

The guy in the $8,500 suit is the court jester.

 Grin Grin Grin
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