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521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will kill itself on: July 01, 2018, 08:47:13 AM
maybe If bitcoin is constantly used for illegal things then at any time bitcoin will be eliminated. And if the theft of bitcoin currencies continues without action to be fixed it will cause bitcoin to be slow and abandoned by investors and users.

That is false

the same thing happens in the central bank system, it still running



Whats killing bitcoin is the developers in fighting


Bitcon being attacked because it is a decentralized system

Roger ver and the hard forks was used to discredit bitcoin

Currently debate is raging over distributed lightning network and decentralized lightning network
Again trying to centralize bitcoin through every transaction on the lightning network

Segwit is a failure due to the inability to decentralize lightning networks


Just remember why they are attacking bitcoin

It would do more than just provide a currency system it is a truth system as well


Truth that we have been enslaved by central bank inflation and tax lies






522  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: July 01, 2018, 08:44:28 AM

Personal income tax is a crime

It is quite easy to get tax from industry and trade (Cities are built for industry, transport is built for industry, most pollutants by industry - then tax them all)

This will filter down to everyday citizens

Who can then determine where they want to pay their tax




523  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2018, 12:34:36 PM
Quote
Dr. Peter Rizun - Bitcoin Unlimited (www.bitcoinunlimited.info)

bCASH fan says segwit isn't secure. How surprising.

but their right
524  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2018, 12:08:31 PM
Discussing security problems is not shilling. This is childish.


Yes it is

How long is a piece of string

Always a threat

Always a false flag

if only it was corruption

525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: June 30, 2018, 12:02:54 PM
I did not believe and do not believe in bitcoin сash, it's just a speculative coin, Roger Ver paid alot for it, but so never made successful!!!

Bitcoin Cash is a reliable crypto.You can be sure of that.



Gavin Andddressseeennnn created it.

Gavin Andddressseeennnn + bitcoin = Gavin love child BCh
526  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2018, 06:23:33 AM
Wtf. If you are even 1% of what you say how good you are, code it, make a pull request.

Not Even Wrong.

How could making a pull request to alter the Core code base have any impact whatsoever on the point I am making here.

The 0.5.4 real Bitcoin code base does not need any pull requests. It is already perfected.

Perfected

what will be used for fast payment issue
527  Other / Politics & Society / Is it time for Q on: June 30, 2018, 03:47:28 AM
Responses welcome

qanon.pub

#qanon
528  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 10:02:27 PM
Lots of News

https://news.goldcore.com/ie/gold-blog/buy-gold-or-bitcoin-liquidity-party-ending/
 Grin Grin


Healthcare fraud   - about time thanks for nothing we the democrats (that crap went worldwide)
https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-sessions-delivers-remarks-announcing-national-health-care-fraud-and
 Huh Huh ??


Civil War - 7 minutes cries and explains says popular vote rigged
https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-moore-we-have-to-put-our-bodies-on-the-line-to-stop-trump
 Huh Huh


Trump administration has it all - ALL the communication from around the world about all the criminals
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-29/nsa-quietly-deletes-years-illegally-collected-wiretap-data
 Shocked :

529  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 09:46:03 PM
https://btcmanager.com/fbi-investigating-130-crypto-related-cases-agent-says/

Here they come

Lets see if any members go missing soon


 Shocked Shocked Shocked


I can see your jaw dropping, better run

mmmmm coins what to do with them, could be part of dump reason for rich moving coins off exchange
530  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
But if most altcoins are scams then that would mean there is almost 135b dollars propping up all these alt-coins. That's more than half of all the money in crypto, how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams?
I can create a cryptocurrency with 100 million dollar market cap with $1.
1. Create crypto
2. Pre-mine 100 million coins
3. Wash trade a single coin on a shady exchange in Korea or China for $1.
4. Boom, $100M market cap.
You could probably get passed step 1 considering you are code savy enough, I am not a developer but I imagine it's a lot easier to create a crypto than I think.
But if you just pre-mine a bunch of coins how would you ever get support from anyone or get listed? Who would support you're chain? You would have to be the only one mining it so it would cost a heck of a lot more than 1$.
I just think altcoins don't get enough credit, I wonder how many crypto enthusiast were brought in being exposed to a an altcoin first rather than bitcoin ?
re: BTI it's easier just to buy ~ you must think of a real world use that bitcoin core doesn't do! Wink weeee
===>
https://freiexchange.com/market/BTI/BTC
http://www.bitcoinstant.org/
#obeybitcoin

Central banks are a scam that is 100% of fiat is a scam
...."how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams"....
It is not 60% it is 100%
Treat it all as a scam then you win better
The banks
the stocks
the metal
the crypto
call scam, look for the scam, try and play the scam
one scam is, buy the dip
as long as the bottom keeps going up
buy the dip
and you do not want no KODAK moment (watch your investment and its owners)

Another example bitChipper

Bcash
The announcement of Bitcoin Cash and its hard fork

Call scam - buy a little as a lot of people pushing scam
Wait for the pump
sell
buy the dip
another pump
sell
buy only a little on the dip


working really well for me

wait for next pump (may not come - again though a lot of big wigs pushing it)
get out?
531  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 05:52:46 PM
Last pages where what I needed to rethink my Bitcoin positioning. It's always good to never forget our mantra
Don't trust, verify

I have never been a huge fan of those 3 addresses. I have always kept my cold important, hard-earned, hard-paid UTXOs in 1-starting bitcoin addresses.

I have never had issues spending more for my txs to be confirmed beacuse I know what it costs to transact on the most secure network around.

Oh, for the record, f**k bcash in case you were thinking I was shifting to Vercoin

For everything else, there's Mastercard Dogecoin


Spoken like a true crypto master
532  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 05:46:55 PM
But if most altcoins are scams then that would mean there is almost 135b dollars propping up all these alt-coins. That's more than half of all the money in crypto, how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams?

I can create a cryptocurrency with 100 million dollar market cap with $1.

1. Create crypto

2. Pre-mine 100 million coins

3. Wash trade a single coin on a shady exchange in Korea or China for $1.

4. Boom, $100M market cap.

You could probably get passed step 1 considering you are code savy enough, I am not a developer but I imagine it's a lot easier to create a crypto than I think.

But if you just pre-mine a bunch of coins how would you ever get support from anyone or get listed? Who would support you're chain? You would have to be the only one mining it so it would cost a heck of a lot more than 1$.

I just think altcoins don't get enough credit, I wonder how many crypto enthusiast were brought in being exposed to a an altcoin first rather than bitcoin ?


re: BTI it's easier just to buy ~ you must think of a real world use that bitcoin core doesn't do! Wink weeee

===>

https://freiexchange.com/market/BTI/BTC

http://www.bitcoinstant.org/

#obeybitcoin

Central banks are a scam that is 100% of fiat is a scam

...."how am i supposed to believe that 60% of all the money in crypto is that clueless and invested in scams"....

It is not 60% it is 100%

Treat it all as a scam then you win better

The banks
the stocks
the metal
the crypto

call scam, look for the scam, try and play the scam

one scam is, buy the dip

as long as the bottom keeps going up

buy the dip


and you do not want no KODAK moment (watch your investment and its owners)

533  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 08:07:20 AM
So even if you have some skepticism of segwit, it might be prudent of you to support the actual (rather than hypothetical) direction of bitcoin by storing a portion of your coins on segwit, even if, you decide to follow through and store the vast majority in legacy addresses

All right, I'll bite...

What about storing some value on a segwit address is prudent?

FUCK off. Your BTrash is a trash coin. A shitcoin. don't leave your shitcoin here. Open your own fucking thread moron.
I don't like yogi more than anyone else here, but it is a valid question. Why choose segwit over legacy? Anyone is welcome to chime in.

Why choose segwit over legacy?

To ensure a consistent economy subject to the whim of the central bankers

To continue useless debate to divide the bitcoin masses

To watch manipulated markets and try and guess them with TA
534  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 29, 2018, 05:36:32 AM

if you believe in satan, do you believe in god

satan is easier to prove
535  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 04:09:22 AM
For the current leg, and I repeat myself yet again, why was segwit better than simply doubling the blocksize? Nobody seems willing to explain that bit, for whatever reason.

Answer why doubling the block size is even needed at this point in time. With actual logic and facts to back your argument.

Because using LN requires opening channels on chain. To do this in a decentralized fashion, LN can onboard no more than several hunnert thousand peeps per day.

Several hundred thousand peeps opening/closing LN channels per day seems a bit overkill currently, don't you think?

Currently? Yes.

But I thought LN was supposed to be a scalability solution. And eliminate the benefit of bigger blocks.

LN is in BETA and the developers will make it scale into the millions, just give them time to develop it. Opening/closing a channel will be for most people a one time job.

Develepors are not against a block size increase, we'll have one later on but don't expect giga blocks. My guess is to 2mb ore 4 mb and combine it with Segwit.

This whole scaling debat was only about taking control, i'm utterly shocked how people follow PR-guy Roger Ver without any knowledge about programming instead following people who KNOWS how to develop Bitcoin.

The only thing people needs to do is listen to developers and not to some random guy on the internet.


listen to developers
(always get multiple sources and outside of your industry)

no thanks been down that road before

some of them (a nutless monkey could do a better job)

536  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 03:48:55 AM
Bitcoin's market-cap is now a mere $100 billion.


537  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 02:07:18 AM
I'm going to bed.




and miss all the fun

https://www.ccn.com/european-union-wont-wait-for-global-agreement-on-cryptocurrencies-spanish-minister-reveals/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-28/malekan-2018-shaping-be-tipping-point-institutional-embrace-bitcoin

https://www.barrons.com/articles/fed-limits-payouts-at-goldman-sachs-morgan-stanley-1530220016



Buckle up







538  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 01:49:17 AM
I'm too dejected to come up with something snappy. Someone do me a solid, tell Jay to fuck himself with some style. k thx
Don't you know nuttin?
Imitation is one of the best forms of flattery.   Tongue Tongue
Jay, fuck yourself with some style.
Oh wait, you already did. So. Many. Times.

Another one bites the dust...



Capitulation is seeming closer, no?

Are there any bulls that are still posting in the WO thread today besides me?

Perhaps, tentatively, we got bitserve, micgoosen, rayx12, torque, cAPSLOCK, fluidjax, RoomBot, Jimbo, and ________?

Of course there are some other bulls who have just been silent in the past few days, but that would not necessarily change their bull status, right? 

this man had a belgum VS england match with afterward a poker/evening-night session to play and with good luck to win some cheap HOT BTC's

so me is very happy .............  Grin  Grin


permabull

i keep selling my bitcoin cheap, very cheap just to live

 Wink

539  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2018, 01:10:40 AM
Alright look guys. This whole bcash shill thing needs to stop. It has become an automatic reaction for some of you. Kind of like how SJWs call everyone nazis.

There is a simple test for these things. If you can't say something positive about your opponents, then you are the ideologue. Let's have a group exercise this morning. Say something nice about bcashers.


Get the fuck out of here with that "nice" talk.   Angry Angry

*cough* fag *cough*

Bitcoin headed to $1000, tons of altcoins are going to disappear up their own ass and the next set of altcoins (bitcoin included) will depend on what exchange emerge strong.


Since really every person was talking about Bitcoin during the last Bullrun, I think there is too much weight on it in order to have the crazy and relentless growth we saw the last time.

My guess: And established modern Altcoin could overtake Bitcoin easily with the next crypto bull run.

You must be like the thousandth person to say that

something original could be better

Wasn't this the same point about the last run too?  We had the flippening, the cashening, the rippling, the dashening.. and perhaps some other pump and dump lame shitcoin bitcoin is dead prognostications.

They are actually (whatever you want to call them) deep state funded central banker intelligence backed cia attacks

Could be some of that going on, but surely not completely.

Started back with the very first ddos attack on this forum

Likely before my time.  I doubt that all ddos attacks on bitcoin related matters are either government or bank funded.


Then the hacks
The altcoin war
Big block debate
Forked coins bcash
and Gavin Andreesssseeenn and his cronies on here behind it all
only a  few bad actors
etc etc etc

The question will always remain and very important in any argument

Why is bitcoin being attacked?

I will give it to you that there is motive, and likely some inferential evidence of government and financial institutional funding, but I doubt the evidence is either direct or conclusive.  That is why we usually would not want to live our lives as if everything is a conspiracy theory, but continue to take such information and possibilities into account for marginal case contributions or otherwise contributing to some of the direction (at times).

evidence is conclusive, you can argue that all you want

I am only here to tell it how it is
people can make their own conclusions

Remember it all starts at Gavin Andreeeesseeesn and his cronies.





How many associated with CIA, Intelligence, Bad media and government funding



https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html


yeah Craig tell them how you assisted the CIA to try and destroy a decentralized money system

because meh the attacks
540  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2018, 11:41:51 PM
Pretty much this.

I wonder If any of these people will be able to make a public appearance after a coup like this.



See this photo?

Do you think any of these 3 are bold enough to trigger a world war and strong enough to survive through it? Are they brave enough to spend the rest of their lives in an underground bunker with the fears of getting killed at any second?

All I see here is 3 *aggots.

Yeah right.  You think that they can really generate enough folks to follow their narcisistic leadership path?  

It seems that your last sentence tells most of it... they are not inspiring enough.. maybe they need a new leader?  Gavin Andressen?  

He is the one leading them

they all follow his code

ideological views

everything

oh and CIA (Some old defunct organization being overun by patriots)
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