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321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Roger Ver lost his fuckin' mind? on: July 21, 2018, 06:40:58 PM
Not even Michael Cao - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290065 - wants to come here to defend Marshall "Mining Prince" Long. Hell, not even Leroy Fodor wants to come to bat for a fellow serial liar. I'd say that's pretty bad when Leroy opts out, eh?

All of them even Fodor+Terrik probably think if they hide for a while they can go back to scamming.

Leroy Fodor could play the role of a Sari Sari store clerk for his fellow cellmates when he get extradited to the US where he'll have his ass complete with solar power spanked on a daily basis and McLovin' it. HAHAHA


Bitcoin  is Bitcoin Cash, Really Roger

lost your mind
322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 21, 2018, 06:28:11 PM
I will suggest you to stay away from Bitcoin cash especially for log term investment. Lot of manipulation happening there.

How? Who is doing the manipulation?? Do you have any URL link we can verify your claim?

The Plan







Where are you Roger Ver
https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr




The Scam

https://decentralize.today/roger-ver-lies-f5333e152858
https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr


Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/
“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.
[/quote]
...."Dr Craig S Wright Verified account @ProfFaustus Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....

They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)
It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War
liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig


Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.
https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072
Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter
Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance
Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.
Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/


there you go

one day one of them will walk by an ex cryptsy, mtgox, bitinstant customer and that customer will take their opportunity with the full force of what they believe justice to be
323  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2018, 06:16:22 PM
Heueristic:   I may have overstated the case.  The FBI is actively investigating donations to the NRA by a Russian central banker called Alexander Torshin who is a lifetime member of the NRA.  Maria Butina was Torshin’s “assistant”, also a lifetime member of the NRA.  They are the only Russians with that status.  The donations are believed to have been passed on to the Trump campaign.  

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html

The NRA is believed to have spent up to $70 million in total on Trumps campaign.  
The thing about PACs is that they don't give the money to the campaign. They do things like run ads in support of the candidate (you know how at the end they have to say who paid for the ad).

Russia really did not want Hillary to win...she and the Democrat party had been bought out by the old USSR elite who still have a lot of wealth but are no longer in power. But they want back into power. Only one problem...Putin is there. So they work with the Democrats to drum up fear of Russia in the US so that we can go to war with them to topple the leadership and put the old bosses back into power (ever wonder why Russia are suddenly the bad guys again?).

If the NRA was not allowed to take foreign money then that's pretty cut and dry. If they can, then no law was broken.


 Grin Grin Grin Grin

Futhermore
The Russians, The Russian, oh my god the Russians

My son plays online games with friends in Russia

Does anyone really think the millennial's believe a word these Russian stories are saying

When I was a kid the TV told me that I need to hate the Russians. Then things changed in the late 80s and the TV told me I can like the Russians. Now the TV is telling me to hate the Russians again.

The next generation do not watch TV
They missed the propaganda, and those using it lost control


First time my Son saw Hillary Clinton he asked, whats wrong with her and why does she hate Russia

I said because she sold Uranium to Vladimar and she dose not want anyone to know
324  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2018, 06:12:23 PM
Heueristic:   I may have overstated the case.  The FBI is actively investigating donations to the NRA by a Russian central banker called Alexander Torshin who is a lifetime member of the NRA.  Maria Butina was Torshin’s “assistant”, also a lifetime member of the NRA.  They are the only Russians with that status.  The donations are believed to have been passed on to the Trump campaign.  

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html

The NRA is believed to have spent up to $70 million in total on Trumps campaign.  
The thing about PACs is that they don't give the money to the campaign. They do things like run ads in support of the candidate (you know how at the end they have to say who paid for the ad).

Russia really did not want Hillary to win...she and the Democrat party had been bought out by the old USSR elite who still have a lot of wealth but are no longer in power. But they want back into power. Only one problem...Putin is there. So they work with the Democrats to drum up fear of Russia in the US so that we can go to war with them to topple the leadership and put the old bosses back into power (ever wonder why Russia are suddenly the bad guys again?).

If the NRA was not allowed to take foreign money then that's pretty cut and dry. If they can, then no law was broken.


 Grin Grin Grin Grin

Futhermore
The Russians, The Russian, oh my god the Russians

My son plays online games with friends in Russia

Does anyone really think the millennial's believe a word these Russian stories are saying


325  Economy / Speculation / Re: [b]GUESS LIST CLOSEST TO ATH @END OF THIS YEAR[/b] on: July 21, 2018, 09:03:09 AM

BTC $116000 USD



Adoption, freedom, transparency.

Current changes in bank, trade and economic policies will lead to ever more calls for transparent systems with decentralized institutions.





LET THERE BE A winner  Grin  Grin  what a green candle would this give  Shocked

Yes it would, need some serious stuff to go down politically before the above happens though.
326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 21, 2018, 06:48:21 AM


Infowars exposes Roger Ver the Bcash scammer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2r3cPHANeM

327  Economy / Speculation / Re: [b]GUESS LIST CLOSEST TO ATH @END OF THIS YEAR[/b] on: July 21, 2018, 12:19:47 AM

BTC $116000 USD



Adoption, freedom, transparency.

Current changes in bank, trade and economic policies will lead to ever more calls for transparent systems with decentralized institutions.



328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BEST ICO for 2018 on: July 20, 2018, 11:14:26 PM
what are general thoughts on RSK - rootstock ICO ?
is here a place to ask? talk about this ? just have a buy oppertunity ....

I am in any links


www.rsk.co

i don't know much just a project on top of BTC, but some guys with big crypto holdings sharing allocations with us and this would be the next.... i just wanna know if maybe some are following this as well, but my friend that i follow into everything involving crypto says we gonna buy few BTC into this so just trying to catch some extra info Smiley

I have been following this for years.

This is bitcoins smart contracts and fast payments.

The challenger to the centralized Ethereum platform
Based on Satoshi's original idea of pegging side-chains to bitcoin to further the blockchain and app development
waiting waiting waiting, years

yeah my friend said the same things .... he also followed this project very long , you buying RSK ?

yes very much so, points below

1) The commitment and development of this team is astounding

2) As well a big f#$k you to all Roger F#$kin Ver and his friends, Segwit and lightning attacks, big block debate in their attempt to kill bitcoin

3) And lastly the continuation and development of bitcoin (the only real truth machine) now with real world financial solutions


I’m following as wel only still not knowing how much BTC to drop in iT
Already sended few BTC’s but maybe thinking to buy little bit bigger.... Huh


Compare it to ethereum, neo, ripple, stellar, waves, these platforms are the model to compare with

RSK is linked to the bitcoin blockchain, like a gas for ether, or a lumen for stellar etc

and of course, only invest what you can afford (you just never know),



2btc (about 6000eth) to 4btc bitcoin invested in the ethereum ico at the time, made millionaires out of people (this is not bout money though)

This will ensure that the transparent nature of the blockchain prevails, this btc blockchain holds evidence of some very high criminals

329  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2018, 10:33:26 PM

Is Bitcoin the Future of Money? Peter Schiff vs. Erik Voorhees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8R71WGO3qU&amp=&feature=youtu.be


Erik Voorhees
Director of Marketing at BitInstant

Really, does he know know Roger


A few us hunting his associates, paid f$#kin shills they are
https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-skeptic-peter-schiff-to-joe-rogan-btc-will-plummet-voorhees-debate-rigged/
330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / *** Bitcoin - War room *** THE CURRENCY WAR$ on: July 20, 2018, 10:24:12 PM


*** BTC Bitcoin - War room ***  THE CURRENCY WAR$

A story of one investors journey into financial freedom.

Since 2009 the release of Bitcoin I have seen Bitcoin under various attacks to ensure the blockchain does not survive.
What is so important about bitcoin.

1) Competition to Central Bank Fiat Currency
2) Model against central controlled monopolies (Government, Companies, Markets)
3) Truth machine holds all criminal activities of the enemy.


Now the final battle has arrived, the last frontier for true peer to peer currency, an ally in the form of Satoshi's original idea of side chains for smart contracts and fast payments.

Bitcoin's ally RSK (www.rsk.co), tied to the Bitcoin blockchain, creating a Super Weapon for any SATOSHIS'S to continue the bitcoin blockchain.

The idea, regardless of the software, is a future of bitcoin side chains with smart contracts, fast payments and various application layers on top.


The War




The Allies
Bitcoin, Bitcoin alternates, Side chains, Cypherpunk, Satoshis's - You
(A unit of the State Authority of Totalitarian rule by Oligarchs using Systems of Hierarchical Institutions)


The Enemy
Central Bankers - IMF, BIS and their institutional banks in other nations (Utility Settlement Coin)
Stock market bubbles, Inflation and Personal Tax
The Credit Companies - Paypal, Visa
Petro/USD Dollar, Monopolized commodities
Forks - Roger Ver, Gavin Andressen, Craig Wright (Bcash) etc

Public Enemy No 1.
Judas - Roger Ver openly admitting Bitcoin Cash (Bcash) is the real bitcoin


Peace Force
General
Satoshi Nakamoto


The Army
Satoshi's - We are Satoshi
(Slaves of the State Authority of Totalitarian rule by Oligarchs using Systems of Hierarchical Institutions)


The Weapon
BTC Bitcoin - Peer to Peer Currency, your currency.



That was fun. A unique perception.  Grin Grin Grin

Any stories of attacks on bitcoin, thefts, scams, enemy moves. Be interesting to hear.

331  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2018, 05:27:55 PM


Great strategy


Interesting to notice the swings in this current market over the last few weeks

A lot bigger than usual, dumps are quicker and bigger


Like pressure to keep the price down

(similar central bank gold market manipulation strategy to keep faith in fiat)
332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BEST ICO for 2018 on: July 20, 2018, 05:17:41 PM
what are general thoughts on RSK - rootstock ICO ?
is here a place to ask? talk about this ? just have a buy oppertunity ....

I am in any links


www.rsk.co

i don't know much just a project on top of BTC, but some guys with big crypto holdings sharing allocations with us and this would be the next.... i just wanna know if maybe some are following this as well, but my friend that i follow into everything involving crypto says we gonna buy few BTC into this so just trying to catch some extra info Smiley

I have been following this for years.

This is bitcoins smart contracts and fast payments.

The challenger to the centralized Ethereum platform
Based on Satoshi's original idea of pegging side-chains to bitcoin to further the blockchain and app development
waiting waiting waiting, years

yeah my friend said the same things .... he also followed this project very long , you buying RSK ?

yes very much so, points below

1) The commitment and development of this team is astounding

2) As well a big f#$k you to all Roger F#$kin Ver and his friends, Segwit and lightning attacks, big block debate in their attempt to kill bitcoin

3) And lastly the continuation and development of bitcoin (the only real truth machine) now with real world financial solutions
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 20, 2018, 05:06:05 PM
Court of Public Opinion



This session is now open

___________________________UPDATES: Control F and find *updated*___________________________


The Case

Roger Ver's Failed Projects Customers/Users and Investors   vs'   Roger Ver, Rich Supporters and Paid Shills


The Story
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg42374148#msg42374148


The Paid Shill
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg42374070#msg42374070

We shall take it to the public court as you say, the social platforms, advertisements, TV, radio etc etc etc


The Collusion

r/Bitcoin and @gembitz   -  great work

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8h4dit/roger_ver_is_a_wellknown_scammer/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7cgzbv/so_i_did_5minutes_of_digging_and_oh_my_god/

The only real drawback to that is the slightly increased bandwidth cost, which at some point will become a problem for the average internet connection. Bitcoin Cash simply increases the block size to 8MB, so 8 times as many transactions fit in each block, increasing the supply and thus reducing the price of transaction

= dilution machine! runaway unlimited blocks touted by roger and fake satoshi will only run the chain to a grinding halt then only centralized server farms will be able to handle enormous blocks.


The Gauntlet

I just came across this thread while searching for something else.

I'm open to the idea if:

1.  The proceeds go to a charity of the winners choice.
2. Everything is filmed and put on youtube.
3. We are of similar weight.  (I walk around at 162 lbs and can easily make 155)


-Roger Ver


The Plan







Where are you Roger Ver
https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr



The Scam

https://decentralize.today/roger-ver-lies-f5333e152858
https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr


*Updated*
Notice how no-one mentions Legacy bitcoin addresses, unaffected by segwit and lightning

On Bitcoin System being Turning Complete and CSW

https://youtu.be/YtHnBTtzh4k

 Wink




The Man

Bcash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bOfkmTsZX0


The Defense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quJctIjKoi0

334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BEST ICO for 2018 on: July 20, 2018, 09:01:00 AM
what are general thoughts on RSK - rootstock ICO ?
is here a place to ask? talk about this ? just have a buy oppertunity ....



I am in any links



www.rsk.co

i don't know much just a project on top of BTC, but some guys with big crypto holdings sharing allocations with us and this would be the next.... i just wanna know if maybe some are following this as well, but my friend that i follow into everything involving crypto says we gonna buy few BTC into this so just trying to catch some extra info Smiley

I have been following this for years.

This is bitcoins smart contracts and fast payments.


The challenger to the centralized Ethereum platform

Based on Satoshi's original idea of pegging side-chains to bitcoin to further the blockchain and app development

waiting waiting waiting, years
335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BEST ICO for 2018 on: July 19, 2018, 11:43:36 PM
what are general thoughts on RSK - rootstock ICO ?
is here a place to ask? talk about this ? just have a buy oppertunity ....



I am in any links

336  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2018, 11:10:41 PM
Weird world







https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr
337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 19, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Court of Public Opinion



This session is now open


The Case

Roger Ver's Failed Projects Customers/Users and Investors   vs'   Roger Ver, Rich Supporters and Paid Shills


The Story
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg42374148#msg42374148


The Paid Shill
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg42374070#msg42374070

We shall take it to the public court as you say, the social platforms, advertisements, TV, radio etc etc etc


The Collusion

r/Bitcoin and @gembitz   -  great work

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8h4dit/roger_ver_is_a_wellknown_scammer/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7cgzbv/so_i_did_5minutes_of_digging_and_oh_my_god/

The only real drawback to that is the slightly increased bandwidth cost, which at some point will become a problem for the average internet connection. Bitcoin Cash simply increases the block size to 8MB, so 8 times as many transactions fit in each block, increasing the supply and thus reducing the price of transaction

= dilution machine! runaway unlimited blocks touted by roger and fake satoshi will only run the chain to a grinding halt then only centralized server farms will be able to handle enormous blocks.


The Gauntlet

I just came across this thread while searching for something else.

I'm open to the idea if:

1.  The proceeds go to a charity of the winners choice.
2. Everything is filmed and put on youtube.
3. We are of similar weight.  (I walk around at 162 lbs and can easily make 155)


-Roger Ver


The Plan







Where are you Roger Ver
https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr



The Scam

https://decentralize.today/roger-ver-lies-f5333e152858
https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr


The Man

Bcash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bOfkmTsZX0


The Defense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quJctIjKoi0



338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2018, 08:38:33 PM
I was thinking about that the other day. Imagine an alien watching us humans as we travel through space gathering gold.

"Why do they expend so much time and resources to gather that metal? Is it vital to their survival? Do they need it for food or to reproduce?"

"No, they just gather it and hide it away in metal boxes so that other humans don't take it."

Isn't it the same with bitcoin?
Yeah except bitcoin actually has value and practical utility.

Originally we collected gold for the gods (or whatever they were)



Yeah... that made them realise we were stupid beyond any hope and be gone leaving us with our useless metals. Some day they will be back and take all our precious Bitcoin. THAT will hurt.


You sure they want the bitcoin

The ancient gods used our female women to create the nephelim

If you believe in such Bibles


This became a commodity of very significant galactic consequences



as with human trafficking today this would be a galactic problem among any race

339  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2018, 08:30:58 PM
I was thinking about that the other day. Imagine an alien watching us humans as we travel through space gathering gold.

"Why do they expend so much time and resources to gather that metal? Is it vital to their survival? Do they need it for food or to reproduce?"

"No, they just gather it and hide it away in metal boxes so that other humans don't take it."

Isn't it the same with bitcoin?
Yeah except bitcoin actually has value and practical utility.

Originally we collected gold for the god kings (or whatever they were)

340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 19, 2018, 06:32:59 AM

Court of Public Opinion



This session is now open



The case


Roger Ver's Failed Projects Customers/Users and Investors   vs'   Roger Ver, Rich Supporters and Paid Shills


The Story
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg42374148#msg42374148


The Paid Shill
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg42374070#msg42374070



We shall take it to the public court as you say, the social platforms, advertisements, TV, radio etc etc etc
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