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61  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: April 21, 2024, 12:46:03 PM
^  But that doesn't really say much.  To win, any manager will def need a lot of money to get the players he wants and build a team that gels together.  But here's a question tho, would somebody like Ten Hag get the same results as Guardiola if he was given the same transfer budget every year?  Would Mourinho?  There's a difference imho.

Nobody can't take away greatness from Guardiola by saying 'oh hey he was given a huge transfer budget.'.  I mean come on.  Lmao.

As for today's matches, be on the look out for Fulham.  Double chance at 2.25, draw no bet at 3.30 vs LFC.  I feel like Marco Silva could out fox Klopp in this spot.  NFA.
62  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: April 21, 2024, 12:32:39 PM
Please include all the guys on the grid, not just the top 10.  

I was intending to keep the image at an ideal size so I inserted a link which was taking the user to the website for full results. But I would do it like that from now on, no problem.  Smiley



We have the race results!



Truthfully it was really much more fun than the Suzuka Grand Prix. We watched many overtakes and SCs also. It wasn't a difficult race for Verstappen and he got the win easily as expected.

However the biggest surprise of the day was Norris' extra performance. After the last SC entered the pit Norris maintained a really great pace that even Perez couldn't get near him enough to go for an overtake.  Smiley

I must add how satisfied I was with Alonso and Hamilton's efforts also. Alonso followed a different strategy and it turned out not to be a good one. But despite that he made a great comeback. Hamilton also gained a lot of positions despite having struggles with the car.

Kewl...  And yup, it was def a better race than the Japanese GP but gotta say...  I kinda got bored mid way as it was so sure gonna be another win for Verstappen.  And not just that, kinda got disappointed with Alonso, Bottas and Ricciardo.  The latter had technical problems but Alonso I'm not so sure.  Maybe if he didn't try so hard vs Perez during the start of the race and preserved his tires, maybe he would've had a different strategy and either maintain third or prolly get better.

But dunno, pretty sure coinlocket$ could give a better evaluation.
63  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: April 21, 2024, 12:23:18 PM
^  Not sure but I think it was due to Sterling getting removed from the rankings at 135 as he's a 145'er now.

Yup, they moved him permanently so the 2nd place contender was void.

Pereira asked Dana in the interview if he could fight in 301 in Brazil emphasizing Hill didn't scratch him a bit, it would have been great if they had given him a spot. Maybe Amanda Nunes also, it all just needs a big offer they can't refuse. Aldo must have taken the offer. Aldo is still big in Brazil so UFC is still providing for the Brazilian demand to watch.

Agree that UFC 301 is missing something currently.
That was a bold request by Alex, but there's no way the UFC would go for that. He's got too big and too profitable to be casually thrown in into 2nd class event on such short notice.
Maybe if the sales were much lower than expected and they could find him some "safe" opponent, but very unlikely to happen.

There are talks about him moving to heavyweight to face Aspinall and frankly, I kind of like the idea. There aren't many good options right now for either Pereira or Aspinal within their weight classes. And Alex doesn't have much to lose, other than health from being brutally KOed by Tom, which is what would happen.

301 is an event in Brazil.  They're like gods over there so it's totally expected for these guys to express they're desire to fight in their home turf and in front of their supporters.  Bit even if the UFC would want to put him in there, who would be the opponent?  It's already hard to find one that would pique the fans' interest...

They are the ones who would just want to put a show on their home turf win or lose. But finding someone to fight against Alex is also another issue and it's also too much to lose on his part. But moneywise, Alex is too popular already, he is meant for the main event and the big paying audience. Aspinal vs Alex is most probably the next big hype.

But there are so many fighters in Brazil to fight on 301, UFC just didn't give them a spot for their supporters. Johnny Walker probably would want to fight if Dana would just give him.

Nah...  Not for Aspinall.  Apinall has a bigger prize to get in Jon Jones.  Winning vs him would def put him in the no. 1 pound for pound in the UFC.  And if Jones wins then he'll prolly retire.  It's just the problem is what do they do with Miocic.  I think the UFC should pay him double for to stop begging for a fight.  Cheesy Cheesy

Somebody said Ankalaev itt.  I think that should be Pereira's next opponent.
64  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for April on: April 20, 2024, 03:35:40 PM
Is it just me or is this year's halving kinda uneventful?  :/  I remember everybody used to be so excited and a lot of guys would start threads about the halving with everybody getting so excited, post memes and just overall making it feel that it's going to be a good year.  We don't have it anymore in these parts...  Same with the Chinese New Year thing.  It's gone.  It's like we're losing our culture.

Either that or we're just getting older.  Cheesy Cheesy  The guys who made it left and the ones who are left here are still grinding in the trenches.  GL to us...  Hope some of us make it.

Edit:  Typos.
65  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: April 20, 2024, 03:13:00 PM
We first got the sprint results which I was only able to watch the replay because of being very early in the morning.  Tongue  There was a Norris - Hamilton fight at the beginning which resulted in Norris' losing the control of his car and losing many places. Hamilton collected really important extra 7 points for his team by finishing as the 2nd.

However the qualifying was really terrible for Hamilton... He couldn't even make it to Q2.  Sad  It looks like Mercedes will rely on mostly Russell as he is starting in top 10.

It is quite possible to see a really great competition among Ferrari and McLaren drivers during the race. The sprint race was like a spoiler for that and the competition went on during the qualifying also.  Smiley



Please include all the guys on the grid, not just the top 10.  

As for the qualifying itself I think the guys who did well in terms of getting the good spots for the package they have is Alonso, Bottas and Ricciardo.  I was expecting it to be a good weekend for Ferrari but we haven't seen it thus far.  But we still have the race and sht could happen for the likely winners Red Bull.

Here's the full result...

Max Verstappen   1:34.742   1:33.794   1:33.660   
Sergio Perez   1:35.457   1:34.026   1:33.982   
Fernando Alonso  1:35.116   1:34.652   1:34.148   
Lando Norris   1:34.842   1:34.460   1:34.165   
Oscar Piastri   1:35.014   1:34.659   1:34.273   
Charles Leclerc   1:34.797   1:34.399   1:34.289   
Carlos Sainz   1:34.970   1:34.368   1:34.297   
George Russell   1:35.084   1:34.609   1:34.433   
Nico Hulkenberg    1:35.068   1:34.667   1:34.604   
Valtteri Bottas   1:35.169   1:34.769   1:34.665   
Lance Stroll       1:35.334   1:34.838      
Daniel Ricciardo    1:35.443   1:34.934      
Esteban Ocon   1:35.356   1:35.223      
Alexander Albon    1:35.384   1:35.241      
Pierre Gasly       1:35.287   1:35.463      
Zhou Guanyu   1:35.505         
Kevin Magnussen   1:35.516      
Lewis Hamilton   1:35.573         
Yuki Tsunoda   1:35.746         
Logan Sargeant  1:36.358

2024 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO0m9lnirZk

Anyay there are words swirling around that Carlos Sainz is going to Audi's new F1 team that's coming next year?
66  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: April 20, 2024, 02:36:55 PM
^  Not sure but I think it was due to Sterling getting removed from the rankings at 135 as he's a 145'er now.

Yup, they moved him permanently so the 2nd place contender was void.

Pereira asked Dana in the interview if he could fight in 301 in Brazil emphasizing Hill didn't scratch him a bit, it would have been great if they had given him a spot. Maybe Amanda Nunes also, it all just needs a big offer they can't refuse. Aldo must have taken the offer. Aldo is still big in Brazil so UFC is still providing for the Brazilian demand to watch.

Agree that UFC 301 is missing something currently.
That was a bold request by Alex, but there's no way the UFC would go for that. He's got too big and too profitable to be casually thrown in into 2nd class event on such short notice.
Maybe if the sales were much lower than expected and they could find him some "safe" opponent, but very unlikely to happen.

There are talks about him moving to heavyweight to face Aspinall and frankly, I kind of like the idea. There aren't many good options right now for either Pereira or Aspinal within their weight classes. And Alex doesn't have much to lose, other than health from being brutally KOed by Tom, which is what would happen.

301 is an event in Brazil.  They're like gods over there so it's totally expected for these guys to express they're desire to fight in their home turf and in front of their supporters.  Bit even if the UFC would want to put him in there, who would be the opponent?  It's already hard to find one that would pique the fans' interest...

Anyway, here are some free fights to watch in case you guys want.  No UFC this weekend.  :/

Pantoja vs Moreno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWvGEqxPiCc

^ Solid fight.

Erceg vs Schnell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_1nQmgXLdE

Aldo vs Mendez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7O2v70gb_o

Martinez vs Yanez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgsrLEhgrKA

Enjoy.
67  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: April 19, 2024, 12:36:01 PM
Real won and took City's place in the bookmakers' quotes:

Real Madrid - 2.40

Paris Saint Germain - 3.50

Fc Bayern Munich - 3.75

Borussia Dortmund - 10.00

In general, I don’t quite understand why Bayern is rated so much better than PSG (the difference in odds is minimal, although Bayern has the strongest opponent and PSG the weakest).

By the way, due to the fact that the English clubs have dropped out and the German clubs continue to participate, can we forget about a fifth spot in the Champions League for the Premier League?

Think about it from a historical stand point.  Bayern has been playing in the final stages of the CL since almost everyone itt could remember.  :/  PSG is really the new kid on the block in terms of CL football.  And the books do have a looot of data in all these matches, all these players and all these managers' records.  The best we can do to beat the game is looking for the best line possible.

There are some guys who compare lines with Pinnacle's lines as it's supposedly the most efficient bookmaker.  So if you know which team to beat on and you find a line that's better than what Pinnacle has, then that's likely to be +EV.
68  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: April 19, 2024, 12:19:25 PM
Max Verstappen spoke to the mics before leaving for the weekend in China, declaring that he has no intention of leaving Redbull.
Do you think it's true or that he only stated it to calm things down after the numerous rumors that have spread in recent weeks?

Wheater update: wet track can be a possibiity

If that's really true then that means the guy who's gonna be given the sack is Christian Horner.  And that also means the possbility of losing him too.  I say yes please.  It's been a while since we've seen some shake up happen in F1 that would change title winning implications.  Imagine Horner and Newey at Ferrari and with Hamilton winning his record breaking WDC under their management...

Making history is something everybody wants to see in sporting events even if it means the team they support loses...  Many people won't admit it tho.
69  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: April 19, 2024, 12:07:14 PM
^  Not sure but I think it was due to Sterling getting removed from the rankings at 135 as he's a 145'er now.

As for Poirier, the UFC is giving him his last shot to get the belt.  And imho, he deserves it after fighting a tough match up vs Benoit St Denis.  Everybody counted Poirier out in that one but he proved to be still in the running for a title shot.  He'll prolly retire after the match.

^  In the main event I think it's a tad early for Erceg to get a title shot.  But they have nobody else for Pantoja for the Brazil card.  And yeah...  Was surprised to see Aldo in there at the co main event.  Not sure why Aldo came back, he's prolly itching for a fight.  And it's in Brazil, so why not.  It will make the fans over there happy.  It will also be hilarious of he get KO'd or something.  Cheesy

As for things going bad for the UFC, maybe...  They now have serious competition after the PFL and Bellator merged.  Maybe we'll see Dana White out of the job soon.  Cheesy Cheesy

It will be more hilarious if he starts knocking people out, enter top and title race Cheesy I think we see him only because there are no more big Brazilian names left and ready, that havent fought recently. Wont be smart to add a lot of non-Brazilian fighters for an event that is held in Brazil. Get Spider Silva and Bigfoot Silva back Cheesy Add one Nogueira brother, Texeira, Dos Santos, Machida, Rua, Wanderlei and beat UFC 300 PPV sales Cheesy

You know I wouldn't say Aldo doesn't have a chance to KO Jonathan Martinez.  The guys seems chinny but dunno...  Can't help thinking he is after he got KO'd by Davey Grant.
70  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for April on: April 18, 2024, 12:36:09 PM
I guess.  The boomer markets seem to have stopped selling off, it's now just mostly crypto that's still going down.  For what reason, not really sure.  But the thing is it's funny how after all these years a lot of people still feel iffy about crypto and the legitimacy of it.  It's been more than 10 years guys...  Crypto is not going anywhere, esp BTC.

But yeah.  I locked the poll as per tradition.  Rooting for the guys who voted yes.  LFGGG!

74.2% of us here voted Yes that Bitcoin will close above 75k. I think with 12 more days remaining according to my time zone, with the current price estimate still experiencing a decline in the next few days until the halving, it is doubtful that it can close at a price above 75k even though according to Coinglass's monthly return data for April 2023 it is green +2.81%.



Instead of selling, it is better to hold until Bitcoin reaches a price of 100k. I don't know what some people are thinking when they decide to sell because Bitcoin, which I know, has been proven and cannot be doubted.

When exactly was the last halving and what was BTC's monthly performance after the last halving happened?  Pretty sure it was a green month...  We really can't count that one out imho.

So yeah, comparing spring of 2022 and 2023 won't really tell us much but spring of 2020 does.

Anyway, don't fade BTC this year and in the coming years.  Things are gonna get crazy.  And you're right just hold your coins.  If you have 1 BTC, def keep it.  As the years pass by there'll only be a small group of people who'll be holding one whole BTC.  I really regret taking all the time I had here for granted.  I just kept wasting what I had at gambling.
71  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: April 18, 2024, 12:19:15 PM
Journalists started talking about the next Chinese GP with their predictions.

there is talk of a Redbull always at an advantage but with a reduced gap on Ferrari, the track seems very favorable to the Italian team.

Ferrari hasn't won in China for a decade, is this really the right time?

I hope so...  I'm mostly an RBR fan but I feel like I've been hating them a lot lately and would love to see them lose against Ferrari.  Lol.  But let's see.  

But sports journos usually write something just to get your attention.  Doesn't have to be what they really think.  Some of the time, they're just made up...  I'm guessing the journalists are from Italy?  If yes, that's prolly to make Italian fans more interested in the Chinese GP.

Edit:  Verstappen to win is at 1.05.  :/  Perez next at 17 then Sainz and Leclerc at 31 each.
72  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: April 18, 2024, 12:13:44 PM
^  In the main event I think it's a tad early for Erceg to get a title shot.  But they have nobody else for Pantoja for the Brazil card.  And yeah...  Was surprised to see Aldo in there at the co main event.  Not sure why Aldo came back, he's prolly itching for a fight.  And it's in Brazil, so why not.  It will make the fans over there happy.  It will also be hilarious of he get KO'd or something.  Cheesy

As for things going bad for the UFC, maybe...  They now have serious competition after the PFL and Bellator merged.  Maybe we'll see Dana White out of the job soon.  Cheesy Cheesy
73  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for April on: April 17, 2024, 02:03:18 PM



The time between April 1 and 13 is the "tension" time where price goes up and down but I'd say it is not related to the global tensions but just the market doing its thing.




I guess.  The boomer markets seem to have stopped selling off, it's now just mostly crypto that's still going down.  For what reason, not really sure.  But the thing is it's funny how after all these years a lot of people still feel iffy about crypto and the legitimacy of it.  It's been more than 10 years guys...  Crypto is not going anywhere, esp BTC.

But yeah.  I locked the poll as per tradition.  Rooting for the guys who voted yes.  LFGGG!
74  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: April 17, 2024, 01:45:17 PM
^  Didn't watch the matches...  Did they use VAR?  Sometimes in some matches I feel like there are spots that I think they should've used it and at the spots that they did use it, sometimes they get it wrong.  At least imho they got it wrong.  All the game stoppages, killing the momentum for VAR which gets it wrong at times.

Anyway City vs Real next...  Will def watch that one.  The club that goes thru here will go to the final and win the CL.  These two are the toughest teams in this tourney.  My dark horse is Bayern.
75  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: April 17, 2024, 01:35:49 PM
^  For the most part yeah...  Match ups I like are Tim Means vs Uros Medic, Lipski vs Karine Silva could be the best match up for the event.  Lol.  So good for you WMMA lovers.  I tend to avoid it from a betting perspective.  And Ryan Spann vs Bogdan Guskov will def be good.  I like Guskov as the underdog here.

That's about it.  :/

...  And the next PPV event isn't really that good either.  I think the UFC is pushing Steve Erceg a tad early to fight Pantoja.  But then again dunno...
76  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: April 16, 2024, 01:03:42 PM
^  After the pain of being a Ferrari driver, I don't think Vettel could feel any more pain in F1.  Cheesy  At Aston Martin, at least the team listened to him and appreciated his inputs.  I don't think it was really the case at Ferrari.

Anyway..  Chinese Grand Prix next!  Let's see how Ferrari and Mercedes react after RBR 1 - 2 at Japan.

2024 F1 Chinese GP Schedule
Track:  Shanghai International Circuit



April 19:  Practice 1  11:30 - 12:30
April 19:  Sprint Qualifying  15:30 - 16:15
April 20:  Sprint  11:00 - 12:00
April 20:  Qualifying  15:00 - 16:00
April 21:  Race  15:00
77  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: April 16, 2024, 12:45:20 PM
^  Not really that big of an advantage...  Like you said, just a a couple of points ahead vs Klopp and Arteta.  Klopp is a very capable manager and Arteta has proved that he could handle his own too.  So these next couple of match days will be so exciting for the EPL fans esp if you have been following it a lot closer which I haven't been doing lately tbh.  Lol. 

But what Guardiola has is the momentum which could help carry him and the club to another league title.  :/  I really thought it was Liverpool that's gonna stay resilient.
78  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: April 16, 2024, 12:34:59 PM


I don't know what to say, to be honest, I am speechless. I really believe Alex Pereira is crazy. That dude got kicked in the "unmentionable" area. Herb Dean tried to stop the fight for a moment and Alex Pereira pushed him aside and kept fighting. Right after that he knocked his opponent out. These things can only be done by crazy people. Of course, Hill missed some chances where he could not connect. If he did the outcome of the fight could have been very different.

Anyway, Alex Pereira was able to connect and was able to win the fight. In the end, he also did celebrations taunting Israel Adesanya. To be honest I expected better from Jamahal Hill. But anyway the knockout was definitely incredible. UFC 300 has given people a lot to talk about, to be honest. I think Pereira and Max Holloway might actually boost the popularity

I would better draw a red line to Hills right hand position and put numerous exclamation marks or add a warning sign. You know your opponent is known for finishing guy with left hook, you know he lands low kicks a lot. You protect body...



In next few seconds you are knocked down by left hook.


Wonder what was Hills game plan for this fight. 1) walk, stay slow, safe stamina 2) protect body 3) try to outstrike best striker and rely as much as possible on own speed 4)... 5) profit

Pereira in UFC. Debut > 2 fights > title fight and a victory > title loss > debut in light heavyweight > title fight and a victory. Give this guy to Ankalaev already.

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Odds are in for the 1st June, UFC 302 event:

Islam Makhachev x1.25 Vs Dustin Poirier x3.80

Sean Strickland x1.41 Vs Paolo Costa x2.80

And for the 22nd June, UFC 303:

Conor McGregor x1.85 Vs Michael Chandler x1.96

I think the payout rate for Chandler is very generous. Thoughts?

Yup kinda good, as McGregor hasn't really fought in a long while after breaking his leg.  And he has been in a lot of prior engagements with his move role which I haven't seen yet.  Should prolly watch it soon.

Makhachev vs Poirier is whatever...  We know who wins.  Let's just hope they hype Poirier enough to make the line for Makhachev land at 1.35 or something.  That's a max bet imho.

As for Strickland vs Costa...  Pretty sure the pre fight press conference will be sooo hilarious.  Grin
79  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: April 15, 2024, 12:55:13 PM
^  Is having the score line ending at 2 - 1 between BVB and Atletico Madrid in the realms of possibility for you?  No research, just intuition from watching following football all these years.  And that's what popped up right away in my mind at first glance.  Lolol.  But then again this is the CL.  Weird things happen...  I'm thinking Man City is going all out and winning the match up by a couple of goals vs Real Madrid.  Maybe 3 - 1?  :/

But yeah, I think all the home clubs are prolly winning.  That means City, Barca, Bayern all go to the next round.  BVB vs Atletico possibly go to penalty kick off.
80  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: April 15, 2024, 12:35:14 PM
It's funny how the league is turning out.  Liverpool lost against Crystal Palace of all clubs and Arsenal on the other hand prolly forgot that Unai Emery is a man on a mission if they're going against them in such a crucial match in such a crucial part of the part of the season.  Pretty sure he's loving how he's spoiling Arsenal's title run rn.  Cheesy Cheesy

Anyway how many match days to go?  There's like just 4 left...  :/  And just like that I think LFC and Aston Villa gave it to Man City.  And what's sad for Arsenal is I don't think they go thru in the CL.  
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