Lol, stop crying, If you try to hijack my account sale threads begging for donations like the pathetic looser you are, then expect to get called out on it. nuff said.
What's a looser? my bad; 'its luzer* Whose luzer? |
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Hey Jeremy, I noticed that for a while you were using the daily low as your exchange rate. That was a bit inconvenient and now it seems like you've changed this. I'm even embarrassed to place an order since your rate is higher than both the Mt Gox and Tradehill bid prices. Are you simply using the most recent trade as a reference? I'm just worried for you that you won't be able to sell the BTC at a high enough price to get your money back. I would maybe suggest using the Bid down to a certain depth (as in the price you would get if you sold x number of coins right now). EG: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD_depth.html there's a "calculator" utility there that does just that. I don't mean to criticize. You're offering such a great service that I just don't want you to get burned somehow and no longer be able to provide the service in the future. Hi there, Thanks for the concern. I change the way the exchange rate is calculated based on supply and demand. At the moment I am selling far more bitcoins at au.spendbitcoins.com than I am taking in at spendbitcoins.com so I'm encouraging more orders by following the last trade on tradehill. |
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Are you in Australia? If so, you can buy bitcoins from http://au.spendbitcoins.com by depositing cash at NAB as often as you want (up to $2000 per day). My rates flucuate with supply and demand, but seem to usually (completely coincidentally) be very similar to the last price on wbxAUD, the exchange with by far the highest AUD volume. |
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Jeremy, just a suggestion if you would reconsider a second attempt, I think some extra rules could make it work. -1 disallow sniping. Very simple, set a deadline, but also allow bidding up to, say 1 hour after the last bet, even past the deadline. That way you dont get ebay nonsense with people trying to bet 1s second before the deadline. -2 to make editing at least much more difficult, set a minimum bid increase and require people quote the previous winning bid. Okay, its not quite a secure bitcoin chain, but it should be good enough, particularly if mods can verify if needed. -3 Disallow any edits (again hoping mods can check if there is any controversy). -4 obviously, explicitly disallow a "maximum" bid. You bid one number, and thats what you commit to pay. I think with those rules, it could work. Not that Ill bid, unless you put an airplane ticket on auction too  . The mods have now created an auction subforum where deletes & edits are disallowed. I don't forsee myself doing another auction of this type, but if I do, I'll put it there with some of your other suggestions. Thanks! |
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Sounds like some of you really do need a vacation.
For anyone who missed out, before you book your next vacation accommodation, get a quote at http://vacations.spendbitcoins.com. You just put a general place and date and I'll let you know whether anything is available and for how many bitcoins. Cheers! Jeremy |
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Australians can now buy bitcoins through Spend Bitcoins at http://bitcoins.aunz.ws. It's easy! You just deposit cash at any NAB and get bitcoins the same day! OP edited to include Buy Bitcoins. |
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Australians can now buy bitcoins through Spend Bitcoins at http://bitcoins.aunz.ws. It's easy! You just deposit cash at any NAB and get bitcoins the same day! |
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Hey, at least there is an Auction Subforum now that doesn't allow for deletes/edits. At least SOMETHING good came out of this.
Great news! |
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I bid 70 but had to take away my bid (this was 100% my fault for not checking with my wife).
It seems 66 is the winning bid so I would like to pay the extra 4 bitcoins to make the full amount of my bid. Please PM an address you would like these sent to. Thank you and sorry for the trouble.
No trouble, goat. The winning bid ended up being 105 btc. I'm sorry I brought you into this, I was just saying I learned a lesson that a forum thread where people can cancel or edit their bids is not the place to hold an auction. |
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You're taking my words out of context. I was saying that you didn't specify your bid to be 66 BTC in your post. You specified it to be 1 more than the previous high bid, up to 66 BTC. And you didn't say that it would be 66 BTC if the "up to" bid was not a valid bid, nor did the rules say that the high end of an invalid "up to" bid would automatically be the high bid of that person. I am not taking your words out of context. I am showing you that your whole argument is based on fallacy and misconstrued logic. The auction did not prohibit a bid such as mine. Online auctions are typically handled in the fashion I bid. Ergo the bid is valid. Being the generous and understanding soul that I am, if Jeremy had come to me and said "Hey, I did not intend this to be a normal auction, but a flat auction, do you want this for 66 BTC, the maximum you were willing to pay?" I would have paid him 66 BTC, even though it was within my rights to demand the auction be concluded as per the rules.. However, that's not what happened. Instead, he saw the price was too low and decided to "reopen" the auction for "silent bids." Even though my maximum bid was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. It's not a silent auction if the bids are known in advance. In the public auction, my bid was KNOWN to anyone who cared to look - it was 66 BTC, no more. It was not an open ended bid like you keep trying to make it out to be... this is functionally what your argument hinges on, and since it's fallacious to claim as such, when my bid clearly was NOT open ended, your argument falls apart. His auction clearly stated "NO RESERVE." He didn't get the price he wanted, so he changed the terms and actually instituted a reserve after the fact (nominally 40 BTC). He got his 105 BTC (presumably Antares is good for it), instead of half or 1/3 of that. Very convenient. Very sneaky. Very shady. Very dishonest. Because you edited your bid, I don't even know what your max bid was. You're saying 66 btc, but witnesses have said it was 100. This whole auction in a forum thread thing was an absolute mess. Early on there was a bid that was placed and then deleted (I don't recall if that was you or not), another bid was edited downwards, goat canceled his bid for 70 btc, and then you bid with a different set of rules from everyone else and later edited your bid. I will not do an auction on an editible forum thread in the future. |
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Silent auction was won by Antares for 105 BTC.
Congratulations Antares, that's a great price for a week in a 2-bedroom in Hawaii!
As agreed, please send 105 BTC to 14BY4YPW2h3cK92Nn7CNK9KJZRS2qhUZXz by Monday, 14 November and PM me the name you would like on the booking confirmation and an email address to send the scanned booking confirmation to.
Sorry for all the controversy.
Highest Regards,
Jeremy
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What the fuck is a "bidnapper bid?" Show me where in the rules (not your new, edited rules) that is says there's no "bidnapper bid." Whatever the hell that is. That's not even a word. *boggle*
If you want to get sticky on the rules that don't exist, my bid was for 66 BTC, which is higher than Antares 35 BTC bid (which he edited) or his 40 BTC edited bid. So your fictional "bidnapper bid" doesn't even apply in that instance either.
Hi Inaba, What I mean is that the rules simply stated to place your bid as an amount of BTC at least 1 higher than the current bid. You instead placed a bid that was "1 higher up to a maximum of..." Because you chose to bid in a different way than everyone else but it didn't EXPLICITLY state that you couldn't do it that way, I didn't think it was fair to just accept Antares bid or your bid, as it wasn't clear whether or not the way you bid was wrong. This is why it has been reopened as a silent auction where messages cannot be edited. Silent bid or not, the choice is yours. |
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Umm, no. I won the auction. The auction closed at 20:00 UTC. My original bid was UP TO 66 BTC at 1 BTC over the high bidder. In either case, I won the auction at either 66 BTC or 35 BTC.
You "re-opening" it because you don't want the price stated is completely bogus. I edited my message because it was more clear that way. In either case, I had the last bid and it was higher than the previous high bidder.
If you continue with this, I will report it as a scam auction, plain and simple, as that's what it is.
Until I found out that you had done a bidnapper bid (which was not allowed in the rules) and then edited your message I posted a message congratulating you for winning and giving you a bitcoin address to send the bitcoins to. I did not reopen this because I was not happy with the amount. I would not have reopened it if you had done a straight 36 BTC bid. I only reopened it because you did an unfair bidnapper bid and then edited your message after bidding had finished. I would have just given it to Anteres, but as I said, I can see both sides, so I am giving you the chance again as well. It is up to you whether you send me a PM at all, send one for 41 BTC, 66 BTC or any other amount, so yes it is a silent bid. This is how this is being settled, and that is final. |
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As I can see both sides to this, I'm going to settle it with a quick silent auction open to everyone.
Highest bid by PM to me by 22:00 (approximately 1 hour from now) wins. Bids must be in the form of a whole number of BTC, not bidnapper type bids, and you will pay the actual amount you have bid.
If no one bids higher than antares' 40 BTC, it is Antares' for 40 BTC.
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SgtSpike,
My initial bid was BTC 35...
However, Inaba posted a bid of "up to 100 BTC, 1 BTC higher than the highest bid" 2 sec before the end of the auction, which isnt a real bid imho. He then edited his bit to be 36, so I was a tiny bit frustrated because of his way and put mine up to 40...
so he in fact won, however not in a fair way.
Wow, totally unfair. I watched this whole thing unfold. Okay, this was not a good format for this auction, as I was not able to watch during the last few minutes and messages are editable. Those who did see this unfold, what do you think is a fair way to resolve this? |
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Hey there, sure you want to take Inaba's offer? he edited his bid after the end of the auction.(which is why I adapted mine)
Sorry, I have to make this accusation public. What did he edit it from and is there a way to look at pre-edited messages? This was perhaps not the best format for this auction. |
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