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461  Economy / Auctions / Re: The contents of 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd (round 2) on: December 20, 2011, 07:42:45 AM
If Instawallet is scraping money out of your address automatically, you should create a real wallet address for this game, transfer the payments so far to that address, and edit the first post giving that address.

It looks like you have one high bid of 1.41421356 so far (the sender didn't follow step 3 to claim it by posting here too, and Googling the addresses doesn't provide any owner, so I'll claim it!), and two donates of .01.

Only problem is you can't edit auctions.

Actually, the first 0.01 and 1.41421356 were for the first round of this game. I should have created a new wallet for the 2nd round, but I didn't.

So far there is 0.01 in the wallet this round. Since I can't edit the OP, I'll leave it the same wallet, everyone will just have to know the total is the total amount RECEIVED (ignore sent) since Block 158142.
462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 on: December 20, 2011, 06:37:01 AM

Thanks. I read it all. It wasn't till the very bottom that I found what I was looking for, which then led me down a proper path. The keyphrase I eventual found was Super Pac. It now looks like there's a way around this issue. Creating a semantic spin now becomes the hard part, whereas before I thought it wouldn't be that difficult. The following links to websites and videos should help everybody get up to speed if they weren't aware of this prior, as I wasn't.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/17/7399074-super-pacs-independent-in-name-only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MHJD4NmFY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef61cWDbuP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3xnbpt12eo

http://www.revolutionpac.com/

Without much time to look over it, my first impression is that I like Revolution PAC. Only thing is, that's where I copied and pasted the disclaimer from that I quoted above. Sad http://www.revolutionpac.com/donate/
463  Economy / Auctions / Re: The contents of 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd (round 2) on: December 20, 2011, 02:39:30 AM
I've just put 0.01 in the wallet to start it out. I won't participate from here on out because I would have insider information being able to see the wallet before the transaction hits blockexplorer.
You might want to re-think this, then, because so can the rest of us.

Good point. Well, that's fine, then, as long as no one has an unfair advantage. I'll just stay out of the auctionanyway since I started it. Smiley
464  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 on: December 19, 2011, 11:59:43 PM
I seriously doubt the total collected amount will be more than $2000, so it can just be donated from a single person who is willing to identify themselves

Yes, but as whoever makes the donation has to state that they are not making the donation ok anyone else's behalf this kills the publicity stunt Bruno is going for.

All valid points. I'm all for proceeding with this without having Bitcoin100 involved. What's important here is doing it properly, where at the end of the day Bitcoin is clearly recognized as the contributor.

I quoted your post, Jeremy, but after reading it a couple times, I continue to trip over what you're trying to express. Please except my apology for asking you to restate it. I feel your making an important point, but I'm having trouble pulling it out. Thank you, bud.

~Bruno~


I see the misunderstanding here. Should read "not making the donation ON anyone else's behalf. I swyped it on my android phone and didn't proofread before posting. Sorry! Smiley
465  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 on: December 19, 2011, 11:58:26 PM
Quote
The Federal Election Commission requires that all of these statements are true for anyone contributing to the campaign:
- I am a US Citizen or Permanent Resident
- I am donating my own money
- I am not under contract to the Federal Government
- I am not making this contribution in the name of another person
- I am 18 years of age or older

Hi Bruno.

I'm referring to the above, specifically where it says 'I'm donating my own money' and 'I am not making this contribution in the name of another person'.

To be honest, I don't give a damn about words politicians put on paper (commonly referred to as 'laws'. The only 'law' I care about is natural law - "Do not harm other people"), but we will not be able to proclaim this donation as a bitcoin donation from several people because according to the above 'law' a donor must declare that he/she is donating his/her own money and not making the donation in the name of another person.

I hope this makes sense.
466  Economy / Auctions / Re: The contents of 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd (round 2) on: December 19, 2011, 10:41:59 PM
Grrr... I'm using an instawallet and although there is still 0.01 in the instawallet, blockexplorer indicates it's technically now at a different address. Rest assured, there's still 0.01 there for the taking. Smiley
467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 on: December 19, 2011, 10:36:57 PM
I seriously doubt the total collected amount will be more than $2000, so it can just be donated from a single person who is willing to identify themselves

Yes, but as whoever makes the donation has to state that they are not making the donation ok anyone else's behalf this kills the publicity stunt Bruno is going for.
468  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 on: December 19, 2011, 09:09:06 PM
Grrr.... Just looking at the PAC donation pages it appears even there you have to report who you are:

Quote
The Federal Election Commission requires that all of these statements are true for anyone contributing to the campaign:
- I am a US Citizen or Permanent Resident
- I am donating my own money
- I am not under contract to the Federal Government
- I am not making this contribution in the name of another person
- I am 18 years of age or older

I'm not sure this can be done as a publicity stunt, unfortunately. Anyone else have any ideas to make this work?
469  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 on: December 19, 2011, 09:00:53 PM
I don't think the "Bitcoin100" name should be associated with this, if you want it to be taken seriously as a charitable giver.  Making Bitcoin100 political will hurt it's ability to approach charities.

By all means, organize a BTC for Ron Paul drive but I think you are mixing two distinct things together which shouldn't be mixed.  

+1

+1

The only other thing I worry about are the campaign finance laws which say a candidate has to report all donations and who they came from. Though obviously I love the idea. Smiley

I think we can make this work, albeit not with quite as much media impact as you want, Bruno.

Firstly, I agree, remove the association with the Bitcoin100. Secondly, to make this legal, instead of donating directly to the Ron Paul campaign we'd have to donate to a PAC, such as his Campaign for Liberty PAC. What do you think, Bruno?
470  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just sent this message to wikipedia on: December 19, 2011, 08:15:54 PM


+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Perhaps someone here should come up with a competitor to wikileaks. Smiley

A competitor to WikiLeaks? You've been dippin' into Atlas's medication?  Grin


Fixed. Smiley
471  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 on: December 19, 2011, 08:14:01 PM
I don't think the "Bitcoin100" name should be associated with this, if you want it to be taken seriously as a charitable giver.  Making Bitcoin100 political will hurt it's ability to approach charities.

By all means, organize a BTC for Ron Paul drive but I think you are mixing two distinct things together which shouldn't be mixed.  

+1

+1

The only other thing I worry about are the campaign finance laws which say a candidate has to report all donations and who they came from. Though obviously I love the idea. Smiley
472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just sent this message to wikipedia on: December 19, 2011, 11:09:32 AM
+1 Wikipedia has become an active member of the status quo propaganda squad.

 Their "lmoderators" are state-sponsored or bank-sponsored "experts", mostly from academia, i.e with plenty of time on their hands to exert censorship on anything even remotely likely to disturb the establishment.

Perhaps someone here should come up with a competitor to wikipedia. Smiley
473  Economy / Auctions / Re: The contents of 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd (round 2) on: December 19, 2011, 10:41:22 AM
Round two only lasted 1 hour, so this round will last a minimum of 24 hours so that more people will have a chance to get involved. Smiley

Sorry, misspoketyped. This is a minimum of 36 hours.
474  Economy / Auctions / Re: The contents of 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd (round 2) on: December 19, 2011, 09:25:43 AM
Round two only lasted 1 hour, so this round will last a minimum of 24 hours so that more people will have a chance to get involved. Smiley

Err... Round one only lasted 1 hour.
475  Economy / Auctions / Re: The contents of 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd (round 2) on: December 19, 2011, 09:23:32 AM
I've just put 0.01 in the wallet to start it out. I won't participate from here on out because I would have insider information being able to see the wallet before the transaction hits blockexplorer.
476  Economy / Auctions / Re: Just for the fun of it on: December 19, 2011, 09:21:36 AM
damn i missed this. round 2?

Sure thing - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55002.0
477  Economy / Auctions / The contents of 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd (round 2) on: December 19, 2011, 09:21:07 AM
This is a psychology experiment. Let's see if this auction goes anywhere at all. This is round 2. Round two only lasted 1 hour, so this round will last a minimum of 24 hours so that more people will have a chance to get involved. Smiley

The rules:

1) Highest bidder at the end of the auction gets all bitcoins in 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd at auction's end.

2) To bid, you must actually send the amount of your bid to 167gBwPnorxou8mKF2CUr95y7xdfgpfxsd (that's right, every bidder pays their bid whether they win or not)*.

3) Immediately after adding it (before the payment makes it to blockexplorer so someone else can claim it), you must post the amount of the payment you made here.

3) Auction ends either at 22:00 20 December 2011 UTC or when no payment has hit blockexplorer exactly 1 hour after a prior payment hits blockexplorer, whichever comes later (according to the times listed in blockexplorer for the transaction). If your payment hits blockexplorer after 22:00 and one hour and one second after the prior payment, you are among the losers.

4) Within 12 hours of auction end, I will send the entire contents of the wallet to the winner.

*To be clear, the amount you send is not totaled cumulatively. The current high bidder must send that amount in 1 transaction.
478  Economy / Auctions / Re: Just for the fun of it on: December 19, 2011, 07:32:32 AM
Yay, I win 1.42421356!

Payment address is 1Nz8tdcuxH4TSSWQWVSGUBYERsDTNZWiza

Sent. Don't spend the 0.01 above what you paid in one place!
479  Economy / Auctions / Re: Just for the fun of it on: December 19, 2011, 06:12:32 AM
If your payment hits blockexplorer one hour and one second after the prior payment, you are among the losers.

This might be a good reason to include a fee in your transaction.  Smiley
480  Economy / Auctions / Re: Just for the fun of it on: December 19, 2011, 06:09:16 AM
I have sent a satoshi-level approximation of the square root of 2.

By the way, for us non-math nerds, this translates to 1.41421356
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