@Bick: Got an offer for ya homeboy, if I can prove you've deleted posts, will you pack up and never post again?  If you can prove me wrong, I'll be the one to leave.  How about it?

You're slipping Bickski... first it was 6283 and now it's 6823... you going for 8632 next?

How's this reality for you: you guys love to quote the court documents, so that means you've got $25-30 million in revenue for just 2013, which means the $1 million you are so worried about cannot amount to more than 3.3-4% of the total revenue.  On top of that, I'm sure there are Monarch orders in the mix, so that makes it even lower.  Using the number I mentioned before, 8000 Imperial Monarchs, that'd be ~$35 million more, dropping that down to 1.54-1.67%.  Not to mention, I'm sure there are plenty of complaints that have already been resolved as well as bogus complaints (like the $30 million one).  So sad you have to have your bubble burst like this, but you're hung up on minutia while being unable to see the bigger picture.  Bick is so desperate that he's necroing threads over a year old just so he can up his post count.  So sad the people you trolls look up to are in such straits.  Maybe once Bick gets his straight-jacket you'll begin to see the light.

Typical troll FUD... you think I meant what pool when I meant physical location.  You guys are the ones that keep trotting out the "they mine with their gear up until it''s worthless and then ship" and now you have the idiots that are claiming the Monarch is already being used and won't ship until it too is worthless.  What I posted shows that broad statements like that are patently false, as the network didn't hit the speeds needed to make it true until way late in the game.  Over a year ago people were making the same claims, and back then the difficulty hadn't even changed.  Only the truly stupid can believe that a company would be able to physically house (at that time) more equipment than is currently on the network and not affect it.  Even today, let's say they had enough orders to increase the network by a mere 10%, that would be 8,000 Imperial Monarchs.  8,000 x ~550 = ~4.4 megawatts of power usage.  Ask one of the datacenter people what kind of space would be needed for this, what kind of power requirements, what kind of cooling would be needed, etc.  Even Bickfailskis vaunted immersion cooling he keeps trotting out would probably take 4 or 5 of those trailers to accomdate this much power and cooling needs.  It matters not, the stupid people have already shown their faces as I expected they would, that's already an X in the win column.

Amazing how you keep trotting out this self-mining FUD... what's funny is simple logic shows you are wrong.  45,000 units shipped... let's say 50% were Jalapenos, that's a minimum 112.5TH.  Even if the other 22,500 were Little Singles (their least sold item), that's another 675TH.  That means at a bare minimum they had more than .8PH and likely much closer to 2PH or higher.  The networks didn't even reach .8PH until mid September, and with AM and Avalon and the rest, they couldn't have had the entire network.  2PH wasn't reached until mid October, and again, there was a lot of other companies involved, so not all of it could be theirs.  But between Oct and Dec the hash rate tripled... right during the time BFL's shipping status was moving the fastest according to their blog.  So, yapyap, where were they doing all of this mining at? 

Note: This isn't a white knight post, nor is it championing, it's merely pointing out that a stupid person is yet again being stupid.  Sadly the trolls here cannot tell the difference without a scorecard.

Hey Bick, did you miss this:

SP30 Yukon - August Batch

Here I thought that would stand for Butterfly Labs Antagonists and Trolls.  Bick falls smack dab into that category.  He's actually obfuscated far more by his over the top accusations than I could have ever done.  The funny thing is he doesn't realize that negative publicity is still publicity and the people that come in here and see his ramblings just walk away shaking their heads.  There's a right way and a wrong way to post negative information, and Bickski is the master of the wrong way.

Yet again, you have failed.  Your ability to measure the intelligence of another person over the internet is in need of an overhaul.  Your dogged pursuit of this fantasy shows your insecurity when it comes to confrontation.  I pity your for your continued failure, your lack of understanding and your inability to achieve the enlightenment of those who are truly aware.

Now you are putting words in my mouth.  I said ALL asic manufacturers, not just BFL.  The masses that are crying about their losses are just greedy gamblers who backed the wrong horses.  I said very early on that people who buy mining equipment expecting to become rich are fools.  The only people that will truly become rich are the early adopters and the people selling the equipment.  It's the California Gold Rush all over again, only now people seem to think they are entitled.

The issue is moot.  You're beating a dead horse.  Your arguments are specious.  For almost a year I have watched as people called anyone who didn't speak negatively about your favorite mining company get called a shill.  Just because you think you hit the nail on the head doesn't make you right.  Your distorted view of reality and true reality do not match, whatever your searches bring up.  You bring up examples of me telling people they are stupid and go "See!" yet all I see if me telling people they are stupid.  Go ahead and pat yourself on the back, you think you've won, but all you've done is prove that you have no real grasp of the situation.  Your comment about Bruno being "paid" with a miner to shut up proves your lack of knowledge.  You are merely spouting speculation without a shred of evidence. 

As to championing, you are stuck in the world of definitions.  The problem you have is you see the letter of the law without understanding the spirit of the law.  I have not stood up and told people how great BFL is, I merely told stupid people they were stupid, which I continue to do to this day.  You are stupid as well, as you cannot see the forest for the trees yet again.  But my telling you this means nothing as you have your blinders on and you will continue to tilt at windmills until you are knocked off your horse.

And thus illuminates your ignorance.  Your perceived lack of ability just means you have no idea what you are saying and have no true measure of the person you are conversing with.  This is one of the issues with the internet, people *think* they can judge people without any real information to back it up, and more often than not they are wrong.  The problem with this is that people are inherently illogical due to various things, so expecting pure logic is therefore illogical.  Your mind games are just that, games.  They have no basis in fact nor do they give a clear understanding of the issues.  You seem to think you have the upperhand here, but sadly you do not.  Your continued discourse just goes to show your feel you have something to prove, but the truth has already been put out there, you are just too blind to see it.  As the japanese would say, you're about 100 years to early for this conversation.

Yet again, closed mind.

Reading back through your posts, something occurred to me... you have no idea what IQ means.  There are many different areas measured during an IQ test, an encyclopedic knowledge of the english language is not one of them.  I know first hand how two different people can score almost identical scores, but have almost nothing in common attributing to that score.  That just goes to show how little you know about what you speak, kinda like the rest of your posts.

I was "paid" nothing.  To receive payment there would be a 1099 involved.  I was given, free and clear, a miner.  There were no strings attached, it was a gift, presumably a thank you for coming to visit.  You claim Bruno outed me, but you could not be further from the truth.  While I was offered compensation for coming to KC to tour the facility with Bruno, I turned it down.  It cost me very to go there little as the car I drive gets close to 50MPG and it was a 450mile round trip.  In addition, I used to live in KC years ago and still know people there, so I went out to dinner with a friend and then Bruno offered to share his room, so lodging cost me nothing.  Now, Bruno was compensated, but he was invited to tour the company at their expense, I asked to come along, and after arriving turned down their offer.  Josh, Sunny, Bruno, me, Goat and a few other got taken out to dinner, after which Josh presented me and Bruno with the miners as we were getting ready to leave.  I guess by your terms, Goat is also a paid shill as is Bruno.

AS I said in the other post, I am not a white knight, nor am I a shill.  I merely enjoy telling stupid people they are stupid, and trust me, when it comes to BFL, there are a lot of stupid people that post on here.

Wow, you must be related to Syke...

1) Show me an example of my trying to sway anyone's opinion.  I've spent the better part of the last year telling stupid people they were stupid and never once did I tell people to buy from, or patronize or even like the company.

2) Your logic on the 24GH miner falls flat...  Bruno was also given one and he never posted anything good before the tour, the only thing he did was say he had visited and had changed his mind after seeing everything work.  I never posted anything about them after my visit other than to acknowledge I received the miner.

3) Yet again, I am a paid shill and I am failing at my job... kinda defies logic... why would I be paid to fail over and over and over again?  Your claim I am a paid consultant falls as flat as everything else you've claimed, but you need to stroke your ego, so keep up the lies.

4) The trust system *IS* broken, and the reason the trust is so low is no one cares BECAUSE IT IS BROKEN.  Why try to inflate a rating to prove a point when you can sit back a let the trolls make the point even more effectively?  Face it, Inaba dangled bait in front of your and the other trolls and you ate it up, hook, line and sinker.  You proved his point far more than if he had had several people boost his rating.  Maybe *YOU* are the paid shill...

5) YapYap: Dude, you are the one with issues.  You are also one of the stupidest people on this forum.

You are correct, I did not mine all of the BTC I own, I am fairly accomplished at investing and trading however and have had my share of good and bad luck.  As to being verifiable, I could very easily verify it, but I would have to take a loss in order to do so and then another loss to get back into what I hold.  Not worth it to me just to satisfy someone's disbelief.

As to your last statement, is that true of the FPGAs?  Regardless, doesn't that apply to the majority of ASIC mining equipment ever sold?

Really?  You're equating BFL to a religion and claim that I'm trying to convert people to it?  Wow.

There is only 1 part of the definition of shill that applies to me, and that is "they have a close relationship with the person or organization".  Since I am a customer of theirs, this has to be true (at least in the eyes of the trolls, ANYONE who has purchased from BFL and posted here has been labeled a shill).  But I have never hidden the fact that I am a customer, so therefore the full statement "is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization" is false.  I am not a shill.

As to the trust rating, that just goes to show how sad the trolls here are.  The whole point of that contest was to show the weakness of the trust system, and WHO was the first to jump on board?  The trolls.  Mar 30th the contest was whined about on here and that very same day the trolls jumped at the chance to post negative trust over and over and over again.  ANYONE who 'entered' the contest received negative trust ratings as well.  The trolls are going out of their way to prove the system is broken, which it is.  And since it is broken, then it means nothing other than the fact that a few people can cheat the system.  Hundreds of fake trust rating have been made in the last month and all it does is show that it's broken and abused.  Congrats guys, you made the trust system worthless and are patting yourselves on the back over it.

FTFY

I understand quite well, it's just that you parse multiple things together into an incomprehensible montage that would even leave Picasso scratching his head.

First off, I was an electronics technician in the Navy, not an electrical engineer.  That means I specialize in testing and troubleshoot electronic equipment, not the creation of specialized chips and PCB boards..  Why would I be a paid consultant if all I know how to do is test and troubleshoot and as I mentioned in the other post, I'm sitting in a chair in Iowa right now, so long distance consulting on how to test things?  Wow.  I wish your fantasies were true.

Since I don't understand what profit is, I guess the simple fact that I started out roughly a year ago with 6 GPUs and some electricity and between then and now I have purchased less than 1BTC with USD out of my pocket, purchased a 5GH Jalapeno for $308 and ordered a 300GH Monarch for 2.03BTC from BFL.  Along the way I was given a 24GH little single and have picked up a few other things.  If I were to total everything I currently own AND have on preorder, I have spent less than 10BTC if I had made all of my purchases in BTC at the time of acquiring them.  At current market rates, if I were to convert every crypto coin I own to BTC, I currently am worth over 110BTC.  Guess I really don't understand profit.

The funny thing here is that you keep slinging mud in the hopes it will stick, and as yet you've failed.  First I am a shill, then I am doing a bad job as a shill, now I'm a paid consultant.  What's next, going to promote me to stockholder?  Maybe even give me Josh's job?  Heck, maybe you even think *I* own the company. 

You are so stupid it hurts to read what spews out of your mouth.  As to the highlighted comment above, HUH?  Why would I be at a courthouse?  Are you insane as well as stupid?  How do I become involved in this? 

I love telling you how stupid you are.  Just because they can show a loss does not mean they had no profit from the sales of the FPGAs.  If you cannot understand how businesses work, then I am not going to waste my time educating you.  But trust me, you are stupid. (so is Bick)

Wow, you are correct, pre-orders, as stated by the accountant on the stand in the hearing, are a LIABILITY.  HOWEVER, at the point in time that the  house was bought, BFL had a TRUE revenue of $2.5million, of which there had to be some profit.  Just because some of that profit was used in a matter you don't like means nothing, as they can use their profit any way they like.  You are like JackRabbit, twisting things to fit into your demented mental picture that has nothing to do with actual reality.